Michigan 27, Indiana 20 (OT) Comment Count

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Tyree Kinnel's fourth-down interception (finally) ended the game. [Bryan Fuller]

Stop me if you've heard this one before: Indiana put a harrowing scare into Michigan, only to lose in heartbreaking fashion.

A game that initially looked like it'd result in a comfortable Wolverines win got increasingly distressful. Two Quinn Nordin field goals and a 12-yard Karan Higdon touchdown run got Michigan out to an early 13-0 lead. While the Hoosiers netted a field goal shortly before halftime, the game felt fully in M's control; they held a 166-112 edge in total yardage and had a huge advantage on the ground. Sure, you could complain about the 11 penalties and the underwhelming passing attack, but the Hoosiers were having trouble just moving the football downfield.

Whatever was said at halftime, however, should probably never be spoken again.

An ugly Michigan three-and-out, capped by a John O'Korn completion to Jim Harbaugh, gave IU the ball with a chance to cut it to a one-score game. They did just that on a drive in which Mike DeBord and his offense utilized tempo to lock backup defensive linemen Aubrey Solomon and Carlo Kemp on the field in place of the dominant duo of Maurice Hurst and Rashan Gary. Hoosiers running back Morgan Ellison rushed for 45 yards on the drive, going virtually untouched on an eight-yard touchdown.

The game slowed to a slog. O'Korn missed a golden opportunity on the ensuing drive when Zach Gentry broke open downfield on a two-man route; O'Korn instead chose to throw at a well-covered Kekoa Crawford, and two plays later Michigan brought on the punt team. That'd become a familar sight for both squads; the next seven drives, four for IU and three for M, went three-and-out.

Higdon, who had a star-making afternoon, finally broke the drought when Michigan went to a ground-only attack. After four rushes gained a pair of first downs, the coaches broke out a slick new counter play to spring Higdon for a 59-yard touchdown early in the fourth quarter.


Dare I say Woodson-esque? [Fuller]

With Michigan now holding a 20-10 advantage, it looked like they'd ice the game when Lavert Hill intercepted Peyton Ramsey on a play reminiscent of the great Michigan cornerbacks of my lifetime. Indiana had already burned two of their timeouts on defense. A first down would've effectively put it away, but the offense bogged down, and the game suddenly turned sphincter-tightening when J-Shun Harris nearly housed Robbins's punt. Josh Metellus made a desperation tackle at the 16-yard line, but six plays later Ramsey hit Whop Philyor (a real name, that) for an eight-yard score.

Then things got really wild. With no timeouts left and 3:28 on the clock, Indiana went for an onsides kick, which took a high bounce that eluded Kekoa Crawford and went straight to IU's Simmie Cobbs for an apparent recovery. Cobbs, however, bobbled the ball ever so slightly as he stepped out of bounds, which the officials spotted live and upheld upon review—Michigan ball.

That allowed Higdon to run the clock down to 1:11, but he didn't convert a first down, and IU got the ball back on their 30-yard line after Michigan's school-record-setting 16th penalty added ten yards to a Robbins touchback. Two big pass plays by Ramsey, one to Luke Timian and the other to Cobbs, gave kicker Griffin Oakes a shot to send the game to overtime; his kick snuck just inside the right upright.


When Karan Higdon saw paydirt, he wouldn't be denied. [Marc-Gregor Campredon]

But Indiana remains Indiana. Michigan started with the ball in overtime and the Hoosiers initially stymied the first play. Higdon, who finished with 200 yards on 25 carries, eluded a defensive lineman in the backfield and bounced to the backside, gaining the edge and bolting down the sideline for his third touchdown.

"He was phenomenal," said Harbaugh. "I don't know how many yards he got after contact but those were tough yards. It looked like there'd be a tackle for loss, a small gain or no gain and he found a way to get four of five yards out of it."

The Hoosiers quickly worked their way to first-and-goal from the three. Gary surged though the line for a tackle for loss on first down, and after Ramsey missed J-Shun Harris in the end zone, he combined with Noah Furbush to stymie a Ramsey keeper. With the game down to one play, Chase Winovich put Ramsey under immediate pressure, and a desperation heave to Cobbs ended up in the hands of Tyree Kinnel. For the second time in as many trips to Memorial Stadium, the defense won the game with a goal-line stand.

"We were going to have to dig down deep to do it," said Harbaugh. "We responded with two tackles for loss, incompletion and an interception on the quarterback option route. It was a great four plays for us."

It sure wasn't pretty, and for large swaths it sure wasn't fun, but Michigan found a way to hold on and move to 5-1 on the season. Next weekend's trip to Happy Valley looms large, however, and could ugly fast if the Wolverines can't get a whole lot more out of John O'Korn, who managed only 58 yards passing on 20 attempts and had a horrible interception negated by an iffy pass interference call. Harbaugh probably has to stick with O'Korn at this point lest he want to throw a redshirt freshman QB behind a porous offensive line on the road against a top-five team. One way or the other, winning at Penn State is a tall order. For the time being, though, Michigan can at least enjoy the ride home.

"We move on to a big road game next week," said Harbaugh. "But this was a big game for our team. Mistakes were made, but it's something we can really grow from."

Comments

jabgq101

October 14th, 2017 at 5:32 PM ^

I am so confused with this team. Yes, they are young, but the biggest liability out there is the oldest person on the field, JOK! He's been with the team for 3 years but looks like a true freshman. Is the playcalling not helping him? Or is he just straight up not good?

mgoblue98

October 15th, 2017 at 12:55 AM ^

wasn't my point.  My point is to stop comparing other teams players with ours.  It's a cop out.  Ramsay plays in a totally different system that JOK.  I am not saying that JOK played well.  In my opinion, he can't get past his first progression, he holds the ball too long and so on and so forth.  Saying Ramsay played "objectively" better seems like turd polishing at best, especially given the amount of criticism (some of it justified) put on Michigan QB's this season.  

Maynard

October 14th, 2017 at 9:26 PM ^

Jalen Hurts (last year), Josh Jackson, Jake Fromm, etc. Could keep going on and on. Why is there a debate on whether a freshman or RS freshman can play well enough to lead a team? I'm not that impressed with IU's either, but I'm not sure just using him as an example disproves anything.

Squash34

October 15th, 2017 at 4:37 AM ^

Really? Bama has the 107th passing offense with hurts and seasoned playmakers everywhere and a veteran line. Jackson runs a two read and run offense and is shutdown by good defenses. Fromm has 2 stud backs and passes for 150 a game on a good day. These are not examples of young QB tearing it up.

mgoblue98

October 15th, 2017 at 12:44 AM ^

have been some on this site that want to compare our young players with those of other teams.  It seems pointless to make those kinds of arguments.  They don't further the conversation or prove much of anything.  The systems that they run are often much different.  The opponents aren't generally the same unless they are in the same conference and perhaps the conference that they play is is just bad.  There are too many unknowns.

DJEasy12

October 14th, 2017 at 10:20 PM ^

Are you actually suggesting that JH, a Pro Bowl NFL QB and an elite QB coach, is NOT telling and coaching these guys to go through progressions and get to checkdowns?! The fact that it isn't happening tells me the players just don't have the mental makeup to get it done. And, unfortunately, there are no viable alternatives. 

Finally, enough with "other schools have young QBs playing great!" line. It's a simplistic observation that offers no context or analysis. "Josh Jackson is GREAT!" the dude plays in a simplistic read-option offense where he looks at the sideline every fucking play to get the call and he only has 1-2 reads and just takes off. It looks great against the overmatched and gets waxed by anyone with a pulse. 

"Sam Darnold!!" Sam Darnold had a stud WR (Juju Smith), a stud RB (Ronald Jones) and a veteran O-Line last year. This year, he got Jones back, but the other pieces left and now he has been STRUGGLING all year (4:3 TD:Int Ratio).

"Jacob Fromm!!" I love this one! This guy has two elite, bellcow running backs and only throws ~20 passes a game for 100 - 150 ypg. 

In conclusion: When a young QB gets the start and plays well, there are usually elite RBs, WRs, and O-lines (or at least 2/3). Michigan does not have any of these things (though Higdon and the O-line were VERY good today). 

Michigan runs a complex, pro-style offense with multiple formations, reads, checks, and so forth. The reason they do this is because when this offense is executed properly, it is an absolute nightmare for college defenses to stop. But the drawback is that, yes, it takes a long time to install and learn. And JH clearly has made the decision to not simplify things any more than he already has. This is similar to Don Brown saying that he isn't just going to lay down and be in Quarters coverage because it's easy to learn; he'd rather die. And I agree with this sentiment. Crafting an overly simplified scheme that goes against what the coaches want is simply bolstering up short term gains that don't mean much (do you really think that approach is going to get us to the B1G Championship and National Title?) by sacrificing long term offensive development and stability. You want this young team to keep increasing their capabilities within Jim's offensive system. And that means yes, 2017 may in fact be a developmental year rather than a contending year. But this developmental year is setting up better years to come, and it will still be better than ANY Rich Rod year and better than 3/4 Hoke years. 

Seriously, this blog has turned into a fucking cesspool the last week with all these know-nothing, arm chair coaches acting like they're Bill Belichick. If you idiots want to live through 2008-2014 again, by all means, demand changes willy-nilly with no thought and a rudimentary understanding of the facts. Us sane people will understand that there are no easy fixes, and will continue deferring to a coach who has literally turned chicken shit into chicken salad EVERYWHERE he has gone. 

Mgoczar

October 15th, 2017 at 12:58 AM ^

Agreed with most but wouldn't you want a QB like Fromm only throwing 10-15 passes and actually connecting on PApass? He does and our 5th year senior cannot. Why not start peters - at least he may be able to go beyond his 2nd read

DJEasy12

October 15th, 2017 at 2:55 AM ^

Ideally, yes. I'd love to have the Fromm approach, but we don't have the Georgia WRs or Nick Chubb and Sonny Michele. I don't know that it's a viable strategy for Michigan. Which is why I don't think it'll work to throw Peters in there. 

Also, I'm 100% sure that Harbaugh's scheme is more complex than Kirby Smart's. Given the O'Korn vs Speight results, I have to believe that if JH believed that Peters was the best option, he'd be playing. Sam was saying Peters mostly fell behind in fall camp because they added a lot more to his plate and he couldn't handle it very well. I don't know how much that has changed 6 games into the season. 

jsquigg

October 15th, 2017 at 5:20 PM ^

This is a great comment, but the coaches have failed to handle end of game situations with a small lead and have also not brought out the best in their playmakers.  This system is complex and does take time to learn, but in the meantime it is big enough to simplify what you do do well.  I like offenses that start simple and add layers of complexity as the offense gets better at the simple things.  Michigan in some ways seems to have started complex which has made it more difficult to find the simple things they do well.  6 games in and I think we have an idea what they do well, so hopefully the coaches can build off of that.

I Like Burgers

October 14th, 2017 at 5:57 PM ^

He’s just not good. I can remember at least three just pure overthrows to wide open players, and a solid handful of plays where he just missed a wide open guy or tried to force it to whatever WR he locked on to from the get go.

If he can’t hit open players, and can’t notice wide open receivers, then there’s not a ton the coaches can do to help.

mgoblue98

October 16th, 2017 at 1:19 AM ^

the QB overthrows receivers, it's often because they aren't transferring their weight properly from their back foot to their front foot, also known as stepping into the throw.  Given the amount of pressure that Speight and JOK have been under, I can see why that would happen.

blue95

October 14th, 2017 at 5:59 PM ^

Nah, that was at least heart attack inducing and some joy came out of surviving that.

This one was just the point at which I resigned myself to Michigan being a team that more often than not loses to sparty, and sludgefarts a turd-for-turd victory against Indiana.

I'm not angry or ranting, I've just finally accepted my fate as a fan of this team and have become dead inside.  Maybe they'll get better, maybe next year, maybe...  Today was the day for me, man.  I'll still watch, but it just doesn't matter anymore.  I've finally been broken.

SiKa7x

October 14th, 2017 at 6:13 PM ^

Hope always springs eternal with me but I've felt broken since the late Carr years. 2 seasons of 10-3 with some of those losses coming the way they did does not fix my feels back to how i used to. I used to feel like UM was a steamroller and everyone else was a mouse in the way. Not all the games were like that in reality, but i felt that way. I used to feel that way. Used to.

griffinm9

October 14th, 2017 at 7:57 PM ^

I think you may be romanticizing the Carr era. I remember a lot of complaints of 8-4 seasons and getting outcoached in major bowl games. The offensive coordinator was none other than the guy ridiculed here all week. Last year I saw a team steamroll it's way to a 9-0 start until a bad game and injuries derailed it. Today I saw a team take a step forward, rushing for 270 yards against a good defense. I think JOK could potentially improve enough to make the offense at least ok. That's all we need. I was somewhat encouraged today. I just feel like there some folks seemingly on suicide watch. The team is 5-1 with nearly zero experience plus an injured starting QB and we're ready to write off the season? I wouldn't be surprised to see some Brandon Peters soon but not next week. Rutgers maybe?

griffinm9

October 14th, 2017 at 7:58 PM ^

I think you may be romanticizing the Carr era. I remember a lot of complaints of 8-4 seasons and getting outcoached in major bowl games. The offensive coordinator was none other than the guy ridiculed here all week. Last year I saw a team steamroll it's way to a 9-0 start until a bad game and injuries derailed it. Today I saw a team take a step forward, rushing for 270 yards against a good defense. I think JOK could potentially improve enough to make the offense at least ok. That's all we need. I was somewhat encouraged today. I just feel like there some folks seemingly on suicide watch. The team is 5-1 with nearly zero experience plus an injured starting QB and we're ready to write off the season? I wouldn't be surprised to see some Brandon Peters soon but not next week. Rutgers maybe?

jmblue

October 14th, 2017 at 8:23 PM ^

Yeah.  Carr had three really good teams (1997, 2003 and 2006) that blew out a lot of opponents and that was really it - his other 10 teams generally scraped by most of the time, with the occasional really strong game (and the occasional head-scratching loss).

 

blue95

October 14th, 2017 at 7:20 PM ^

It's really nothing to do with this particularly game, it was probably inevitably going to happen.  It could have happened last week, or any of dozens of times over the past twelve years, or five years from now.  It has nothing to do with this team or coaching staff.

It just happens that today was the day that the candle in my heart that has always told me that Michigan is anything other than a middling also-ran was finally snuffed between thumb and forefinger.  I'm sure it's happened to lots of people over the years, and today was my day.

There's no arguing it.  It's a thing that happened to me and that's why I feel sad about it.  It'll either happen to any of you, or won't.  Sucks, but c'est la vie.

Go Blue!

stephenrjking

October 14th, 2017 at 8:30 PM ^

You seem to mistake my comment for a rip. I think you're overreacting, yes, but your work here is beautiful:

It just happens that today was the day that the candle in my heart that has always told me that Michigan is anything other than a middling also-ran was finally snuffed between thumb and forefinger.

Most people would consider seeing that paragraph in TWIS to be a badge of honor.

But save your backhanded religion hate for someone else. 

stephenrjking

October 14th, 2017 at 9:01 PM ^

Pretty rich fallacy there, thinking that someone disagreeing is equal to them dictating to someone else what they OUGHT to do. You are posting your thoughts here on a message board upon which discussion takes place. I discussed them. It's possible for someone to have a different opinion from you without infringing upon your rights.

stephenrjking

October 15th, 2017 at 2:08 AM ^

Spoken like someone who hasn't ever had to face that kind of thing. You really have no idea what that's like, do you? To grieve with someone, to invest your life in them, to help bear their burdens at a time when they have no idea what to do? You have no idea how much company I've kept with death in the last three weeks: how many funerals I've presided over, how many deathbeds I've visited, how many grieving family members I've spent time with. 

But it wouldn't matter if you did. You made up your mind about people like me a long time ago.

BTW, the points I have are an undeserved glitch, don't get so hung up about them. Bolivars aren't worth much anyway.

blue95

October 15th, 2017 at 2:50 AM ^

Yeah, you're right.  You are the only one in the world who has experienced death, loss and greiving.  Boy, aren't you a hero.  Nobody but you has ever known anything like that.  Wow, aren't you full of yourself!

Gimme one more, buddy.  You sure think you're something unique and special.  Ol' bearer of burdens nobody else knows.

You're such a simpleton that you've completely missed the premise of my posts.

BTW, what year did you graduate from Michigan?!

Tell me again about how I should feel about my alma mater, my father's alma mater, my brother's alma mater and my uncle's alma mater.

GFY!