Mailbag: Retaining Mattison, Coach Before AD, Hackett Long-Term, Braxton Transfer, Schlissel Concerns(?) Comment Count

Brian

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Retaining Mattison?

Dear Brian,

It seems very clear that Hoke is gone at this point. Is there a scenario in which we could fire Hoke, but keep Mattison at DC? This is a top 25 team with a competent offense. I actually like Nuss too as I believe the playcalling has been good and Gardner just isn't executing, but he also seems as good as gone right?

-Anon

It's rare for assistant coaches to be kept on after a head coaching change. OSU kept Luke Fickell, but they've devolved his responsibility repeatedly and their defense is not up to par with their offense. You get the sense he's mostly around for recruiting. Other than that I can't recall a coordinator-level assistant who survived their head man getting axed.

Making an exception for Mattison depends on a lot of things. For one, is he pissed off enough that he just retires? Mattison's pressers have been feisty, full-throated defenses of Brady Hoke over the last couple months. It's clear Hoke commands seriously loyalty from him, and it was expected he'd be retiring in the somewhat near future anyway. He would take some convincing to stay, and making that pitch is a delicate thing I'm not sure certain targets *cough*HARBAUGH*cough* would be good at.

Meanwhile, there's the question of how good this defense actually is. Yeah, they're seventh nationally in yards per game and 12th in yards per play. They've also faced a selection of completely horrible offenses. Yards per play rankings of Michigan power 5 opponents, out of 128:

  • NORTHWESTERN: 125th
  • PENN STATE: 121st
  • UTAH: 89th
  • MINNESOTA: 68th
  • INDIANA: 57th, but most of that is w/ Sudfeld
  • RUTGERS: 50th
  • NOTRE DAME: 38th
  • MICHIGAN STATE: 12th

There are two teams in there that are better than average and if you take Indiana's QB situation into account (Indiana has averaged barely 200 yards a game since Diamont took over) there are three of the very worst teams in the country. #91 Maryland and… uh… #11 Ohio State are pending.

That plus Michigan's notoriously slow tempo means the advanced stats have a very different perspective on Michigan than raw ones. FEI has Michigan 35th(!) in the country, which is barely average in a schedule adjusted system. Michigan is 31st in S&P.

It's not hard to see why. They gave up 400 yards to Gary Nova, got plastered by David Cobb, and folded on the second drive in East Lansing against the one legitimately good offense they faced. The man press misstep was costly, and I don't have a lot of hope Michigan is going to throttle Ohio State.

So. Given that and the likelihood Mattison's going to call it quits sooner rather than later anyway, I wouldn't put a high priority on retaining him. It might be different if there was a guy on staff that looked like an heir apparent, but Mark Smith keeps getting bounced to other roles, Roy Manning is probably still too young, and Kurt Mallory was interviewing at I-AA schools last summer.

I don't see anyone sticking around after the transition except Manning, who's established himself a great recruiter and can go back to his natural LB spot. I still think Nussmeier's track record is an excellent one, especially in QB development, but it's going to be a hard sell to retain him after this year's performance.

[After the JUMP: AD hiring stuff, prez stuff.]

Hackett long term?

Hi Brian,

I understand that the university needs to complete its due diligence in hiring the right person for our next AD, but how about considering Jim Hackett long-term?  ESPN morning links included a great article about him and he seems like he might be a good fit. Any chance he isn't just our interim guy?

If he isn't our guy, how likely is it that we hire Jim Harbaugh and let Jim have input in the AD selection process? I know that this is backwards, but if we aren't putting together an AD selection committee for another week, it seems to me that we'll have to 1) hire a coach without the new AD, which is tough, or 2) the process will take so long the new AD and coach will miss the recruiting boat this year.

Thanks
Dave

I would be leery of keeping him long term because of the parallels between Hackett and Brandon. Both come to the AD spot after a term as a corporate CEO; neither has been in an athletic department before. Both were hand-selected after minimal search based on relationships with people close to the throne—in Brandon's case in fact the person on the throne. That's fine for now in Hackett's case. He was installed out of immediate necessity and so that's the way that "search" had to go.

For a long term hire it's not. The likelihood that Hackett is the best guy for the job when you have a very well-liked Brad Bates at BC and Jeff Long, the head of the CoFoPoff committee,—both with deep links to the program—is very low. He's undoubtedly a nicer guy than Brandon. He's not an AD, and for pants sake it is time to hire a real damned AD for the first time in a million years.

What if people like him and he interviews well? I don't have to tell Michigan fans that, but being well-liked and having a two-hour face to face to determine whether this gold does in fact glitter are completely useless for predicting performance. Go get the guy who is doing the thing you want him to do, and well. Only way to be sure.

I do not have enough evidence to answer the last question.

This Braxton Miller question you people keep asking.

I had an interesting thought. With the #quarterbackcontroversy in Ohio, could Braxton Miller transfer? Could a hire of Herman make that happen? Did I just fart?

Sincerely,

a-ph4nkz

The graduate transfer exception comes with the same requirements that the regular one-time exception does and adds a couple on top. Since the normal way of transferring requires a release, this also requires a release. And while transfers have become a hot-button issue to the point where Bo Ryan was forced to allow Jarrod Uthoff to transfer within the conference just for the PR, there is no freakin' way OSU releases Braxton Miller to Michigan.

Yes, I know Michigan released Justin Boren to OSU. That is because Michigan was incredibly dysfunctional at the time. OSU will laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh if 1) Miller even wants to transfer and 2) he wants to transfer to Michigan. The PR they will not care about because that looks so bad on the part of Miller/Michigan that they won't take a hit.

Forget about this.

Hiring a coach first?

Brian,

The conventional wisdom is that Michigan shouldn't hire a new coach until it has hired its AD, on the theory that the new AD should get to have "his guy." It makes sense that if you're hiring someone to run a company, that guy (or gal) needs the opportunity to surround himself with people who agree with and are capable of implementing his plan. But an AD is not a CEO. A CEO gets to tell his employees not only what the goal is, but exactly how they are required to go about trying to accomplish it.

ADs don't have that kind of relationship with their coaches (thinking that he does would be disqualifying, I hope). Every AD wants the same thing from his coaches: win as soon and as often as possible with the best citizens you can find, graduate those citizens, don't cheat. Whether the coach accomplishes that with a pistol formation, a 3-3-5 defense, or amazing special teams play should not be the concern of any sane athletic director.

I just can't imagine a new AD showing up and thinking, "Wow, I'm really glad they waited for me to get started on this urgent task that they've known needed to be done since at least mid-October. Especially since I have a completely different opinion from everyone else about who the best candidates are." I suppose top-tier coaching candidates might want to know who their boss is going to be before making a commitment, but it might be helpful to get their opinions on what they would consider to be a deal-breaker.

Besides, if you were an AD candidate, would you want your first task to be firing a nice guy from his dream job and making the most momentous decision you're going to make in your entire tenure, all under extreme time pressure? Or would you rather walk into a situation where you're either going to be a primary beneficiary of the warm feelings from a job well done or be able to disassociate yourself from it if it's another disaster (I know... it can't be another disaster)? Let's do the next guy a favor and get this done. A side benefit is that Schlissel would get to do the slow, careful AD search that I think he really wants to do.

-Dan

I left all of this in because it makes the points I would otherwise make.

This is what's going to happen. Schlissel clearly doesn't know much about Big Time Athletics and is settling in for a long education period that culminates in an athletic director hire that he can be comfortable with, and we can be comfortable with. This was overlooked in the whole SACUA hubbub, but there is no way this:

“That’s why I’m taking a bit of time with the search for Dave’s successor,” Schlissel said. “Some folks wanted me to hire an athletic director (earlier) so he could fire the current football coach and hire the next coach but I want to take the time to make sure we get someone who is not only technically adept, but can ensure that the program has financial and academic integrity, and also someone who shares the value system of realizing our mission.

… “I’ve really learned that this whole athletic sphere and the usual way you approach things just doesn’t work. It’s just a crazed or irrational approach that the world and the media takes to athletics decisions.

“It’s a time sink,” he added.

Schlissel said he hasn’t formally looked for anyone to permanently fill the athletic director position.

Turns into a hire in the near future. Similarly, there is no way Michigan can look at the performance of the football team and the financial implications arising from it and retain Hoke. So: Hackett is going to fire him and hire the new guy.

Whether this is a good idea or not, it's happening. Michigan again finds itself stuck with bad timing. Meanwhile, OSU lucks into Urban Meyer. Hooray.

I don't think having Hackett make the hire is going to have much impact on the available coaches. If Harbaugh's coming he's still coming; if Mullen's coming he's still coming; established guys like Patterson/Gundy/Stoops were almost certainly not coming anyway; anyone below that is coming. So, fine.

How concerned should you be?

Brian,

My question is simple:  Can you tell me why I should not be at least moderately concerned by what we’ve heard in the last 72 hours [from Schlissel]?

Thanks,
Ryan

I think you should be a little concerned. It's concerning when the president of the U describes sports as a "time sink" and needs to find someone out there who can reshape the department. It's concerning that Schlissel got thrown in the deep end here thanks to Dave Brandon's toxicity.

I think there's some upside to Schlissel's approach, though. One of the first things he zeroed in on was the five dollar water; one of Brandon's final attempts to bring students flowers and say he's changed was to offer people coming in the student entrance free bottles of the stuff.

As long as the next guy isn't a textbook example of what not to do in the realm of public relations, it's the creeping, shitty incremental revenue extraction that is the lowest-hanging fruit. The amount of goodwill you get by hacking prices down to reasonable levels—it is 40% more expensive to get a coke at Yost than it is at Joe Louis—more than offsets the tiny drop in revenue, and Schlissel seems to feel as put off by all that as a normal human does.

That's the upside here. Schlissel is a normal human who says "I don't know" when he doesn't know and says what he thinks even if that is not 1000% pablum. This may go a bad way, but if it's going to go a good way he's the kind of person who needs to be in charge.

Comments

Sam1863

November 14th, 2014 at 12:26 PM ^

The reasons why Brandon had to go have been well-documented here. But sometimes it's the smallest example that makes the biggest impact. For me it was this line: "it is 40% more expensive to get a coke at Yost than it is at Joe Louis." As an old friend of mine used to say, that falls into the "You gotta be shittin' me" category. What kind of cheap-ass SOB would nickel-and-dime college kids like that? Oh ... right.

JeepinBen

November 14th, 2014 at 12:26 PM ^

1. I doubt Mattison would stay if Brady were fired unless either Harbaugh were hired and wanted to retain him. Mattison worked for John Harbaugh in Baltimore, so that's a possible in.

2. Mattison will stay in Ann Arbor even if he's not coaching. His daughter (& family & granddaughter Matti) all live there and he said that was part of why he took the job too.

3. On a new coach "being in the AD search committee" - I think that makes sense. No one is saying that Harbaugh should pick his boss, but saying that the new coach should have no input makes no sense either. Beilein mentioned that he wanted to be on the committee and I think he should be. The football coach should be too. People at many levels are involved in hires - could be for someone at the same position, a boss, etc. I helped interview backfill candidates despite being the least-tenured person in my group. Picking a new boss with zero employee input isn't a recipe for sucess. Let many coaches help with the search committee, take their responses into account, and go forward.

UMaD

November 14th, 2014 at 12:32 PM ^

Mattison has on obvious passion for coaching kids and doesn't want to leave Ann Arbor.  They pay isn't bad either.  I think he'll stay if asked in sincere and constructive manner.  Somebody like Teryl Austin could ask him to stay and help smooth out the transition process over the next 2-3 years.  Mattison has an excellent reputation and won't be just coaches with existing ties to him that will want to keep him around.  The majority of potential head coaching candidates will want to keep him around IMO.  It's only the clean-house guys that will sweep him out.

In general, coaches are less fickle than fans, so you won't see the same sort of negativity and pointing to one year of FEI ranks that you would around here. 

Michigan Arrogance

November 14th, 2014 at 12:30 PM ^

I'm not good with sayings, but I think some said this once: knowing a lot is knowledge, but knowing what you don't know is wisdom. Clearly schlissel has both and to be honest, it's refreshing to hear someone in such a leadership
Position admit what he doesn't know. God knows DB never did this and contrary to how Brandon thought of himself, schlissel is clearly the smartest guy in the room- mostly be he knows what he doesn't know. It's great leadership and honest pr without the hubris. IMO


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The FannMan

November 14th, 2014 at 12:59 PM ^

OSU didn't luck into Meyer.  He was out there and they went out and got him.  There were all these reasons why it couldn't happen (Meyer's need for family time, poor Luke Fickle and blah balh blah).  Ohio State just plain old MADE IT HAPPEN.  That is not luck.  That is seeing an opportunity and taking advantage.

By comparison, we need a coach.  Harbaugh seems to be on the way out in San Fran.  There are all these reasons why it won't happen - his wife loves the weather in Cali, NFL to college, Jamie Morris's butt-hurt, his salary demands, and blah, blah, blah.

We are in a very similar, if not same, position as OSU.  The only issue is whether Michigan goes out and gets it done or not.  If we don't, it isn't because OSU was luckier than us.  It's because we suck and they don't.

That ends the part where I take one sentence of a long post and rant about it.  Thanks, I feel better now.

South Bend Wolverine

November 14th, 2014 at 1:26 PM ^

Nonsense.  OSU absolutely lucked into Meyer.  They had a highly successful run with Tressel, which happened to end in bizarre fashion at a time that coincided quite remarkably with Meyer coming onto the market.  Meyer's availability itself was bizarre.  I can't think of any modern parallel to his departure from Florida.  All those "reason why it couldn't happen" you mention were just smokescreens, and everyone knew it at the time.  Meyer was always going to OSU once the job became available.

If we pick up Harbaugh, we will to an extent have lucked into it as well.  An NFL coach with his track record getting pushed out the door & then returning to college, lining up super-conveniently with our need to fire our head coach, would definitely be a lucky break of the biggest sort.  The obstacles are much bigger than in the Meyer situation, but can be overcome with some deft handling.

Both situations involve some luck; OSU's was clearly insanely lucky.

UMaD

November 14th, 2014 at 2:46 PM ^

Tressel had been pushing the NCAA limits for a long long time.  It's more inevitable than it is bizzarre that he got in trouble.

The inevitability of things is easy to say in hindsight, but it wasn't any more inevitable than Harbaugh coming to Michigan.  Great coach with ties/reasons to come back.  It can work out, or not.  OSU made it work out.  Michigan failed to with Harbaugh last go round.

Harbaugh is a highly successful coach that most teams would want, just like Meyer was. You act like OSU was Meyer's only option when that's not the case.

They have to make it happen, not hope to luck into him.

alum96

November 14th, 2014 at 3:19 PM ^

Yes I am not with Brian that we are so unlucky this time around in timing.  Maybe the last time yes.  Not this time.

If Hoke had been fired for example a year ago, JH was still "content"  in San Fran and UM is competing with the biggest dog in the NCAA world - Texas - for a coach, not to mention Penn State and USC.  So last year it was basically the Charlie Strong sweepstakes with 4 bluebloods going at it.   James Franklin is no home run hire - he had some solid years at Vanderbilt but has some issues around him as well.  And no Harbaugh.

Fast forward a year and if Mushcamp can save his job, UM will be the only blueblood looking for a coach and JH is looking out the door at SF.  And if not Jim - again there is not PSU Texas and USC all competing for whatever candidates.   Maybe there is not a plethora of "mid major" hot coaches available this year but frankly it is overblown how many there are every year.  Last year it was basically Charlie Strong. 

In 2013 the major hires across the landscape was Big Bert go Arkansas, some guy with 1 year of real success at Utah State taking his spot at Wisconsin, a poor man's Brian Kelly to Tennessee and Oregon replacing Chip Kelly with their OC.

In 2011, Miami went and got Al Golden, Stanford promoted their OC, and Florida got Muschamp.

In 2010, FSU had its coach in waiting who was promoted, and ND grabbed a coach that was anathema to much of the UM community because of his well known arrogance.

There is a lot of revisionist history in that every year there are so many great candidates.  2012 was a unique year - Sumlin, Mora Jr, Graham, RR, Meyer.   

The FannMan

November 14th, 2014 at 3:43 PM ^

I see your "nonsense" and raise you a "poppycock."

This may be a fundamental difference in world view kind of thing, but I think you have to make your own luck.  By that, I mean you have to see opportunities when they arise and go and get them.  Sometimes its hard to see an opportunity, sometimes its hard to take advantage.  It is never just luck.

Tressel  blew-up and OSU made the moves so it was a one year 6-6 season kinda thing.  Part of that was going and getting Meyer.  I don't think you can just call that luck and not give credit where it is due.  Put another way, do you think the leaderhsip team at Michigan would have pulled that off had they been at OSU? 

We now have a situation were Jim Harbaugh may be available if we can Hoke.  That is not luck.  It is an opportunity.  What remains to be seen is if Michigan is bold enough to do what it takes to terminate Hoke and hire Harbaugh.  If it happens, it won't have anything to do with luck. If it does not happen, it won't have anything to do with luck. 

[Edit - this was supposed to be a response to South Bend Wolverine.  Derp.]

Brodie

November 14th, 2014 at 6:12 PM ^

I don't know what you're talking about... Tressel resigned on May 30th. It's not like Ohio State could conduct a coaching search. They went out and promoted Fickell as an interim because that is SOP when you fire a coach in the middle of spring... we did the same thing when we fired Gary Moeller and just like that situation, if Luke Fickell had won 10 games, he probably would have just been given the job.

Do I think the leaders of Michigan would have done whatever it took to hire a 2 time national champion head coach with a master's degree from the school who just happened to be available and willing to come here? Yes, I think they would. I think several highly intelligent species of moneky would be able to make that connection. Any number of things COULD have happened... Urban could have stayed at Florida, Urban could have actually wanted to retire, Tressel could have been retained, Fickell could have been successful... all of those things had to go perfectly for Ohio State to even be in a position to go out and get Urban Meyer.

My Name is LEGIONS

November 15th, 2014 at 9:25 AM ^

WRONG. YOU ARE WRONG
Meyer got word while at Fla thru grapevine that the Tressel thing would be going down in the future, and he ALWAYS coveted one job only. It was not coincidence he resigns due to health. That was very calculated, and he avoids a RR WVa backlash leaving a Fla job midstride for OSU. wake up

wile_e8

November 14th, 2014 at 1:27 PM ^

While there was a certain amount of "getting it done" involved, no amount of "getting it done" would have made it happen if Meyer was still coaching at Florida. Who knows if Michigan could get it done right now if Meyer was available given the general chaos of the past few years, but it doesn't help that there isn't a multiple national championship winning coach available and looking for work.

Surveillance Doe

November 14th, 2014 at 1:56 PM ^

I agree, and I would actually argue that we are in a more glaringly obvious situation than OSU was. When was the last time a blue-blood school was going into a coaching search with such an obvious perfect fit, let alone someone who has been so wildly successful? Harbaugh is a candidate who really requires zero consessions. The only reason we should come out of this withou Harbaugh is if he is genuinely not interested in being here.

Brodie

November 14th, 2014 at 6:01 PM ^

OSU absolutely lucked into Meyer. They couldn't have hoped to pry him from Florida and he likely would have found another gig before Tressel retired. That was ideal timing on every level. I sometimes wonder if we might have had a shot at Urbz if he had actually done what he said and "retired" the first time.

Conroy

November 14th, 2014 at 1:29 PM ^

Urban Meyer has retained the defensive coordinator at every school he has coached at (Fickell, Charlie Strong <Who had like 30 titles at Florida>, Kyle Whittingham, and Tim Beckman).  Half of them have gone on to be damn good head coaches.

Leaders And Best

November 14th, 2014 at 2:15 PM ^

I was just posting this. Urban Meyer has made a career out of keeping of DCs at new jobs, and then everyone attributing those guys to his coaching tree when they blew up as HCs. Whittingham had been at Utah for about a decade under Ron McBride before Meyer took over (Whittingham actually took over as DC for his own father in 1995). Charlie Strong is probably much more a product of Lou Holtz and Bob Davie than Urban Meyer had been at Florida under Zook. Even Greg Mattison whom Meyer brought to Florida was probably due to the fact Mattison had worked with Davie for about a decade between A&M and Notre Dame.

I'm not going to put Tim Beckman in the group of damn good head coaches, but yeah, he had been DC at BG for 3 years before Urban Meyer's 2 year stint there.

Blue Mike

November 14th, 2014 at 1:32 PM ^

I wonder if Schlissel's apparent dragging of his feet to do this AD search the right way isn't just a cover to allow him to line up the next guy without a circus.  We all know that the next guy is going to be an established AD somewhere, and I'm sure they don't want to have to be answering questions every day about taking a new job.  Perhaps someone like Bates or Castiglione or whomever is negotiating behind closed doors, but out of respect and integrity, all parties are remaining quiet.  

That seems like what happened with Brandon; Schlissel kept saying how they weren't going to rush into anything, how we was still evaluating, etc, while they were obviously negotiating terms of the resignation.  Nobody saw it coming until they announced a press conference 6 hours before it happened.

At least, I can hope, right?

west2

November 14th, 2014 at 1:38 PM ^

to Michigan?  How entertaining would that be?   Just like a good soap opera it makes all the sense in the world.  First things first, new coach please!

julesh

November 14th, 2014 at 1:44 PM ^

I was discussing the $5 bottles of water with my coworkers at lunch today. One of them said that of course they are going to confiscate any outside beverages. It's like at the movie theater. They don't allow you to bring anything in. I pointed out that movie theaters barely break even on movie tickets, and make all their money on concessions, so it's understandable that they will force you to only purchase food and beverages inside. If Michigan Stadium is operating the same way as a movie theater, there's far more wrong here than we thought. 

Leaders And Best

November 14th, 2014 at 2:01 PM ^

Urban Meyer has actually done this a couple times now. He retained Charlie Strong as DC after Ron Zook was fired at Florida (although Strong and Meyer had a relationship dating back to when they were assistants at Notre Dame). Meyer retained Kyle Whittingham when he took the Utah job after Ron McBride was fired. Whittingham had actually been at Utah for years (replaced his own father as Utah DC in 1995).

Hasn't worked out too badly for him...at least until Luke Fickell came along.

cincygoblue

November 14th, 2014 at 3:52 PM ^

How is it not luck that tat-gate and Urban getting caught with his pants down happened a year apart? OSU couldn't have hired someone that close to the start of the season and obviously they weren't going to hand the keys to Fickell permanently.


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Mo Better Blues

November 14th, 2014 at 4:41 PM ^

Boy, I dunno. I gotta be honest, I've heard about four Schlissel comments and I haven't liked a single one. Yeah, he fired Brandon. That's probably a good thing--though we cannot say for sure, since a replacement is nowhere in sight and we just can't know that yet. You hire a pederast who interviews really well and suddenly Dave Brandon's looking pretty good, y'know?

But fair enough, let's say it's a good call (I certainly supported it) and that actions speak louder than words. OK.

But I don't get the impression from his comments that he's somehow this deferential, humble, Socratic figure who "knows what he doesn't know". Quite the contrary--he has some very definite opinions about things, clearly.

He speaks about the program (and sports, writ large) with open disdain and dismissiveness--"terrible" graduation rates, kids who don't belong at Michigan, "sports stuff", "time sink", "irrational", "crazed", "pretty scary" (in a future tense no less! Things that haven't even happened!), "there's football and there's everything else" (and no, not the way I think we here like to think about that--haha), invoking "the world and the media" (inarguably talking about sports culture--"this whole athletic sphere").

(By the way, he has a point about all this, don't get me wrong. But I'm not here for the abstract ideas about sports and society, I'm hear to relish in Michigan football victories and cry over losses. Full stop.)

What I hear is a very intelligent man, (who knows how intelligent he is) and *does* understand that the sports world is something apart from reality, and he doesn't like that fact or is at least totally uncomfortable with it. Or he's glad he doesn't understand it because it's for the great unwashed. 

After all, if you think the atmosphere around something is "crazy", how inclined are you to open up the university's checkbook to hire Jim Harbaugh or ANY good, high-dollar coach for that matter? I mean, I guess Harbaugh has also expressed concern for academic standards, so maybe they're sympatico on that point, but aside from that, this sounds like a man who wishes sports would just go away and stop interfering with Michigan's real goal of being the premier public research university in the nation...(while this whole goofy football thing is a real "time sink", y'know?)

And sure, the AD (or interim AD) will do the hiring/firing, but do you think just possibly he would bring it up with the president, and that individual may have some say in the matter. And high-level say--the kind of say where a big wig leaves a room with, "I don't care what you do. But you don't pay over X amount of dollars on this nonsense. We're here to educate kids, not score touchdowns." 

Not to mention this comment: "Some folks wanted me to hire an athletic director so he could fire the current football coach and hire the next coach but I want to take the time to make sure we get somebody who is not only technically adept...and also someone who shares the value system of realizing our mission".

First of all, I find it kind of classless to discuss Brady Hoke's pending unemployment in that glib manner. Unless, of course, you have no intention of firing him. Or are ambivalent either way. 

Do you think this gentleman's "value system" includes beating Ohio State every year? Winning Rose Bowls? Maybe. I don't really think so from my impressions so far.

And, as always, I could be entirely wrong. And am praying I am.

leu2500

November 14th, 2014 at 4:48 PM ^

Sounded like the truth to me.

Football's apr sank to the point that it was an issue mgoblog was monitoring

And judging from online comments I have no doubt that he's gotten some pretty ridiculous emails that place waaaay to much emphasis on sports & winning now, indeed winning at all costs

Njia

November 14th, 2014 at 5:23 PM ^

"We strive for excellence" in all things did you not understand? He's not hiring the football coach himself. That's not his job.

On the other hand, he's seen what happens when the University community is not happy with the state of the football program. I'm sure many well-connected donors and the Regents have been schooling him (pun intended) on the finer points of what it means to be the "Leaders and Best" (the line came from a fight song about football, after all).

I think we'll be just fine and I don't understand all of the handwringing going on on this site.

Mo Better Blues

November 14th, 2014 at 11:04 PM ^

Well, not to be trite, but I guess I missed the part where that means anything. Striving for excellence and not accepting anything less (and then, for the football team, specifically) are two different things. The man has all the other departments of a world-class educational institution to consider, and to me, at least, while it sounds like he's aware of something called the Michigan football program, he couldn't necessarily pick it out of a line-up or explain why it's so damn special or what the fuss is all about.

Yeah, it's entirely possible I'm just a bit paranoid/traumatized by, you know, all the recent history of us getting everything wrong on every level. So maybe it's me--I'll volunteer that.

But we've now watched two hideously botched coaching searches (and one of those was additionally botched *after* the hire, forcing a guy out--and for pretty convincing reasons--who seems to win a shit-ton of games everywhere he goes that *isn't* Michigan), and nearing a decade of objectively piss-poor football. So, forgive me if I'm not just automatically reassured that because a university president *doesn't* know anything about building a winning football team, that that means he's obviously going to put the right people in place to do just that.

The program, as we all know, is in need of some serious repairs from skilled hands at the moment, not more lip service. And we're even running out of lip service if the president's non-scripted comments are any indication about his true feelings. To be honest: anything less than a mega-deal involving Jim Harbaugh coming back to coach his alma mater is going to be viewed with great skepticism and probably disappointment. Getting Harbaugh probably means playing error-free coaching search football, if you will, and we've shown a shocking lack of in-game awareness lately on that front. 

All that said: it's still early yet. We'll have to see. And I really, truly, honestly, sincerely hope my worries are entirely unjustified. But I'm officially from Missouri with regards to Michigan Football. Done with cautious optimism.

Brodie

November 14th, 2014 at 6:25 PM ^

is that comment glib and classless? It's a pretty accurate remark and shows a very astute understanding of the situation... if Hoke were winning games or if people thought Brandon was capable of hiring a replacement, there would have been no fire under the President's ass to make a change at AD. If this weren't the case, we wouldn't have, to use your own phrase, the great unwashed speculating on potential AD hires as though they actually understand the finer details of the position beyond football wins and losses.

What Schlissel is saying is that he is well aware of what is going on around him and is a.) not comfortable with it and b.) unwilling to play the game by anyone's rules but his own. I think his value system is one that prizes keeping the AD reigned in by the university's overall mission... I doubt he thinks about things like beating Ohio State, but I'm sure his values aren't actively opposed to the concept. People read too much into these statements and think they mean we're pulling a Chicago or a Tulane, all I see him saying is that he wants to hire an AD who can operate on his wavelength. A guy like Bates, with his PhD from Vanderbilt, is probably the right guy. There is no indication that the guy from Northwestern, to cite a name that's come up, would mean taking a step back on the football field, either.

Marley Nowell

November 14th, 2014 at 5:00 PM ^

I am still convinced Meyer was going to PSU. There were media rumblings that JoePa essentially hand picked him and was going to retire at the end of the season. I also don't see it as a coincidence that he was able to raid their entire recruiting class once their sanctions occurred. OSU was lucky in so many eats to make that hire