...is pretty damning. Congrats, Chris.
I'VE HAD JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF YOU SONNY
...is pretty damning. Congrats, Chris.
While tailgating, I watched as people trundled up Main Street and saw a small # of folks in those MSU game monstrosities, along with the UTL ones (which, while not great, were decidely better than MSU) and thought, "Wow - how do we continue to screw up such a great uniform? Wha' happen?"
Granted, some of the time said uniform is being worn by a fat person on whom only a Homer-esque mumu would be appropriate, but still.
The Alabama game jerseys (of which I haven't seen outside of on TV) do really show Michigan's new "highlighter" yellow approach. I'm guessing they, too, look worse on the average fan. On TV, it looked like someone was trying to emphasize how important the shoulder pad area was while preparing for their Kinesiology exam.
That is a problem, and my god people need to start worrying about their health (sorry if the people in that photo read or contribute to this blog).
One of the people described is [some woman.] Are we sure that is a woman or just another fat guy with love handles?
Yeah, not the proudest moment for the UM faithful with that picture. I know we are all "derp derp OSU derp derp MSU" when they have bad pictures of their fans, but not a high point.
Remember all the people who went with the whole "Its just for one game" argument prior to UTL? Well, yeah, not so much.
In one year and two games we have used how many "alternate" jerseys? ULT, MSU, Sugar Bowl, Cowboy Classic - That's four and I feel like I am forgetting one. (I can't even remember all of them!) This is also different from just tweaking the stripes on the road jersey every few years. These are new unis being worn one time, sold to fans, and tossed aside. I have this deep fear that Brandon has a few marketing aces rolling out dozens more. I am just bracing for "Maize Jerzeee Day, brought to you by Bic Bright Liner, the Official Highligher of the University of Michigan."
Re: Jerzeys. This is why get off my lawn.
Re: Banner - as long as the maize is consistent it doesn't trip my OCD and I'm fine with it. But pick one color and stick with it.
Re: Branding/Jerseys - I'm surprised that we've gone with so many damn jerseys considering how uniform (sorry, unintentional) the AD has been regarding the Block M. The split M is dead, as are tons of other "Michigan" symbols. http://mgoblog.com/diaries/block-m-and-branding You'd think they'd want a simple, straightforward approach to football jerseys too.
"But pick one color and stick with it."
At last year's Purdue game which was on a cloudy but not dark day, I noticed 4 different shades of "maize" just on the uniform alone: helmet wings, helmet #s, jersey #s, and pants. That's not even counting the Banner, scoreboard graphics, and various stadium trim and tram. Just pick a decent color and standardize on it.
In my personal snowflake opinion, we're drifitng a little bit toward the flourescent-yellow-that-almost-looks-green edge of the spectrum, ala Baylor's NCAA BB unis. I'd like to see us dial that back a little bit.
But I do like the bright yellow. It really "pops" against our dark blue background. When I see someone wearing Michigan apparel, I can always tell it's Michigan just by the tint of the colors. It's unique to us. You can't say that about Notre Dame, USC, Alabama, Oklahoma, Ohio State . . .
Mainly due to how things look on TV. HDTV is another game changer. I don't care what it is (I don't want it to get to the Baylor/Oregon level you reference) but I totally agree with you - the Wings, pants, numbers etc. should match! I don't really have OCD but I do have some tendancies, and when things that should match dont, ugh.
did anyone notice Senator Carl Levin helping to hold up the banner?
i feel like you can break michigan's schedule in 2013 (and every year) into 3) 4 game chunks. i think chunk 1 is gardner at qb, chunk 2 is 70% garnder, 30% morris, chunk 3 is at least 50% morris with garnder at wr. i think there is no way morris goes henne from day 1, but by the end of the season it will be his team.
...wearing a Michigan jersey of some flavor on the scoreboard screen as the banner was erected.
The B-2 was cool, of course, and the Bennie Oosterbaan video tribute was especially well done. But for me, the best thing about the pregame was the coin flip with the Army NCOs including the Medal of Honor recipient. While we rightly bash the Athletic Dept for its jersey escapades, let's give them credit where credit is due for a fabulous pregame. They do a great job keeping the traditions alive while adding on special touches.
You could write a colossal 900-word laundry list of everything wrong with the alternate jersey phenomenon, and it still wouldn't speak as loudly as that picture. A picture is truly with a thou-- oh no, I guess I said 900...
= Jean Reno.
/gets use out of his Michigan degree in French.
With Gardner and Bellomy, we should be in fine shape. Why not take the pressure off of Morris and give him a year to learn the offense and get settled in?
Given all the hype he's gotten, both fair and unfair, I think this is the best solution for him and the program. He is also such a strong leader and a positively polarizing figure, given his success at motivating recruits to commit, why not have him around for 5 yrs as opposed to 4...
I just don't want to experience another freshman quarterback for a while at Michigan.
Not without Braylon.
I will guarantee that Morris does not redshirt. At the least, he'll take garbage time snaps in the hope he'll start the following year. Part of the reason I think this is because I think Gardner stays at WR next fall. He'll be too good there to move, and OT good enough at QB to move.
I don't think the spread is quite dead after this year. We will still have Gallon and Dileo, the Hoke-recruited O-Lineman still may still need to physically mature before they can excel at "manball" blocking schemes and obviously running is a big part of Gardner's skillset.
Looking at 2014 as the first year of the "new" Michigan offense, which I don't think will look as close to "old old" Michigan offense as some think. Shane Morris is no statue.
I'm going to guess that after we lose Denard, the quasi-spread-hybrid plays go with him. It's obvious that Borges isn't completely comfortable with spread play calling. This is why for the most part that people are unhappy with him. He tries to get Denard some space, but isn't very successful. Also, it isn't because Gardner is slow or Morris is not mobile that we won't be running a spread, it's because our playcaller doesn't like it. Our recruiting only solidifies that opinion. We will move away from quasi-hybrid-spread plays as soon as humanly possible. Next year will be all about growing pains.
Those kids are big John Navarre fans.
Those kids are big fans of anyone.
Are just plain big!
Don't you mean QB #16? The NCAA wouldn't dare profit off the likeness of any actual amateur athlete.
I wouldn't be so sure it's entirely dead after this year. Devin is (probably) the best overall QB next year and if he starts Borges will continue to call plays that attempt to utilize the available skillset of his players. For Devin, that means being a consistent run threat and getting deployed in a formation/system with which he is familiar. The spread is the best fit for fast and talented QBs-that-can-play-WR (e.g., Pryor, Young). Furthermore, Devin has only ever run the spread. It's what he ran in high school, it's what he ran for Rodriguez, and it's what he will have practiced these 2 years backing up Denard. I don't see Borges crossing his fingers and hoping Devin can run a new offense his senior year.
Obviously there will be a move away from the spread that Denard has run, fewer designed QB runs and whatnot, but it won't be gone entirely if Devin is the QB. I anticipate a gradual evolution, not a sudden 'death of the spread'. We won't see Borges' desired vision fully in place until Bellomy or Morris (or ___) assumes the starting QB postion. Even then, Bellomy is a pretty decent athlete whose game would benefit from the occassional spread play-calling. Surely after 2-3 (or even 4) years of it, Borges is going to become more comfortable with spread elements and might retain elements of what he's learned, even when he has 'west-coast' personnel... as long as your QB isn't a moose, sprinkling in some spread play-calling is going to be useful.
I guess my opinion of Borges is different. I just see him forcing his system next year because there won't be anything to compare the next quarterback against (like there is with Denard's 2010 season).
That is clear from his press conferences. I don't get the sense that he is big on comparing one season to the next, but even if he does - why can't he compare Denard to Devin? They're different obviously both both our guys whose legs are a great asset to the offense. The spread is the best way to exploit that.
Devin will get the chance to compete at QB, but I wouldn't be suprised at all to see Bellomy win the job outright. Bellomy is a very good player and the coaches know that. That is the reason that the coaches felt good enough to move Gardner to Wide Reciever. If they didn't feel comfortable with him as the primary backup then they would limit Gardner at Wide Reciever.
We may see a couple spread plays in the future, but I think the spread as our main formation is gone. With Hoke's recruiting we are starting to see the Bigger RB's, the Bigger Recievers, The stronger lineman, the emphasis on the TE (with some depth). Just because a QB is mobile doesn't mean they have to play in the spread to be effective. Look at some of these great athletes/runners that have played well in the west coast system: Michael Vick with Philedlphia, Steve Young, Jeff Garcia, Donovon Mcnabb, etc. If our team is molding more toward a west coast team then why not move to that next year?
I hope so; for all the right reasons (35-0 at halftime) that is.
That's nothing against Bellomy, who I've always liked, but Devin is a 5-star QB recruit and he won the job coming out of camp. If Michigan had other viable options at outside receiver, this isn't even a conversation anyone is having.
The backup QB is always the most popular guy. Last year people wanted to move Denard to WR because Devin was a natural fit for the offense. Now people want Devin to move to WR for good as soon as possible.
I'm not arguing the direction of the offense is away from the spread, but I am arguing it's going to take time. Hoke is recruiting bigger RBs, but Rodriguez recruited Hopkins and succeeded with Owen Schmidt. Plus, Norfleet and or Hayes may be better backs than Rawls or Smith or Shallman. Oregon uses plenty of TEs. Nothing precludes a spread offense from using bigger WRs in the slot, besides - we still have Dileo and Gallon and Norfleet and Hayes.
I see an evolution away from the spread, not discarding it completely. Doing that would take your most talented and experienced QB and force him into a system he's never played in before.
Also while tailgating, I bemoaned the fact we wouldn't get a chance to see a big time non-conf program in the foreseeable future like Alabama in the Big House (or go to Bryant-Denny stadium for those who live in the region or travel). My only thought is Brandon things those type of "regular" games are too pedestrian.
I mean, I hate MSU, but I am envious they get to play Oregon, Alabama and Miami (YTM) over the next 8 years in home & homes. We, on the other hand, get Utah. Yipee.
Appy State 2014, Rob! WOW, indeed!
Seriously, I had.
Thank you for reminding me. Now I will go somewhere to drink a few to forget again.
I understand neutral games if the prospect of a home-and-home is impossible. Like, I never expect Alabama to ever go north of Virginia in that program's future, and even then it would be a stretch. So at least a neutral site eliminates the perpetual home games that SEC teams enjoy. But USC has shown they are willing to travel, and going to the Carrier Dome would have been nice for the fans.
As for jerseys, I honestly don't care anymore. No team in America has really maintained the sanctity of their colors to the degree that they used to, and so I'm no longer going to be worked up if Brandon and co. raise the G from #55 to #6B.
As the poster above you mentioned though, Alabama is going north of Virginia for a home game. They are going all the way to...wait for it....the great state of Michigan for a home and home against MSU. If MSU can do that why can't Brandon?
Since when is corn burnt orange in color? I know when I buy corn, fresh on the cobb or frozen niblets, it's always a pretty solid yellow. It certainly would never be called burnt orange. Maize is a shade of yellow, not a shade of orange. Maybe that's modern food processing, that corn has been cultivated for it's color more than flavor the way oranges and apples have been, but you can't argue with the reality of it. Maize is the color of corn, and the color of corn is light to deep yellow. It would never be mistaken for a shade of orange. Hate on Monsanto and ADM if you like, but on this, Dave Brandon is just representing the brand in the actual color of corn.
For what it's worth, I have always preferred the brighter yellow tones to burnt orange.
If you're going with the plant-based definition for the color "maize," well, it's not that descriptive. Corn comes in a variety of colors, from very pale yellow through deep orange. Just because most supermarkets only carry one variety doesn't mean others don't exist.
However, most corn isn't colored highlighter yellow. Let's stay away from that.
I agree, I don't know too many people that are fans of the new neon yellow color scheme. We're Michigan, we're all about trandition, lets stick to our traditional colors.
Lots of corn is also white. So when we wear our white jersey, are we also wearing maize jerseys? ;)
I personally don't really mind the brighter yellow (except when it's over used, like it was against Alabama - that was blinding). As mentioned elsewhere, what I really care about colorwise is the same color be used throughout, e.g., helmet matches the jersey.
However, maize (generally speaking - it's a color outside of its use by Michigan) is typically not bright, highlighter yellow. It definitely has an orange tinge to it
See below examples (even the UM example shows the color can be lighter, like the new football unis, or darker, like it used to be. It's just the baseline is typically not bright yellow):
Ultimately, we can make "maize" be whatever we want. I mean, UM's blue has changed over time as well (it's gotten darker). So I suppose "reality" is whatever we want it to be.
The overabundance of "maize" during the Alabama game made me realize that 300 lb. linemen look silly in bright yellow pants.
Even the interwebz can't decide what maize looks like.
I looked at a few of the links you had for "maize" and they were noticiably different from the one I pulled from the web:
In conclusion, "maize" is whatever the hell color you want it to be, I guess.
...but we seem to be inventing the future with our own particular, day-glo version. Even the image you have above is noticeably softer than our new "maize."
But as you said, as long we keep it somewhere on the yellow/orange spectrum and don't get totally ridiculous, we can Lewis Carroll/Humpty Dumpy that thing and have it mean whatever we want, I suppose.
According to my conversations with the marketing department in the AD, the correct maize is PMS 116 (Blue is PMS 282)
The new banner is not quite that color maize because it would have involved a custom run of fabric of over 300 yards, so, we were forced to pick the yellow that is closest. It's not the perfect maize, but I think it's better than the old, and more importantly more closely matches the uniforms. I really don't care which yellow we use, but I believe it should all match.
When you pull up the PMS 116, you'll see that is an almost perfect match to the exterior of the new scoreboards and the new stuff at crisler and Yost. It's a 3-5 year project (according to AD) to get all the different maizes to be the same in all the different apparel.
Here is the official university blurb about the plethora of colors used by different units. Notice how they page displays two completely different colors called PMS 7406.
Im not 100% sure what you are referring to since I don't see a link in your repsonse.
I do know that the Athletic department is at a little bit of odds with the University over this and some of the mind numbing conversations that I had with the AD had to do with the incongruencies (sp?) between the AD and the University and all the different schools and departments within the university.
White corn is almost always labeled as such at the supermarket. Yes corn can be many colors, but if you ask people what color corn is, they'll say yellow, not burnt orange. Personally, I'd rather highlighter yellow over burnt orange.
Man, I don't know what color maize is anymore. I know it's not neon yellow and I know it's not orange. I think I'm giving up at this point.
I do know I prefer the color in the top banner. Sorry if you worked three years on the bottom one :(
Yellow the fields where ripens the grain,
And yellow the moon on the harvest wain; Hail!
Hail to the colors that float in the light;
Hurrah for the Yellow and Blue!
I thought the letter was about having 5 people take six seats. I know in my section, there are two people near us that take up easily 4 1/2 seats. Watching others try to squeeze in their seats is worth the price of admission. I know I am personally tired of the guy behind me knocking his knees into my back every other play.
K to be fair knocking his knees into your back would be a height issue which is pretty well out of said fans control. Agree with the gist though