Mailbag: Brandon Job Security, Basketball Redshirts, Residual Soccer Stuff Comment Count

Brian

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Brian,

The message boards have a good deal of speculation about Hoke's job security.  At what point will Dave Brandon's job security come into question?  A while back you outlined a number of failures during Brandon's tenure.  To me, the fact that ticket sales are so slow, that even the students seem to have had enough of this BS, has to raise some eyebrows with people in power.  Or is Brandon firmly entrenched as long as wants to be here?

As Brady said, "This is Michigan, fergodsakes."  It's not feeling much like Michigan lately.

Thanks,
James
Class of '93

I don't think Brandon is particularly entrenched.

I've heard chatter that certain people in positions of power would be happy to see a change… a lot of chatter. But I've heard that chatter for over a year now, and predictions that Brandon would be replaced have come and gone. At this point I'm skeptical that the people are inclined to do much, or have the power to do so.

That said, Brandon's now in the same situation Rich Rodriguez (and big swathes of the department he replaced) was: his boss did not hire him, and his performance is in the range where replacing him wouldn't raise eyebrows. It's quite a trick to get the entire student body to hate you.

Gents of MGoBlog -

In these recent times of hardship for the football program, Dave Brandon has taken a lot of heat for his cardboard cutout marketing/branding efforts when it comes to the team and other University athletic programs. There seems to be a large and growing consensus of fans (at least on the MGoBoard) that point out every misstep they believe he makes - there have been quite a few dud ploys he and the AD have rolled out.

However, i'm curious to know if there are any decisions or moves he's made as AD that the MGoPolitburo or wider UofM community have received positively. Have any of the AD's ideas under his leadership had a direct positive impact on any or even one of the school's athletic programs? Whatever the case may be, who are some Athletic Directors who "get it" at their respective institution who you would like to see in charge at Michigan?

LB

The main thing people point to in Brandon's favor is the pile of cash. I'm not that impressed, because you or I could have been appointed AD and sat there wibble-wobbling our lips and Michigan would have seen an enormous uptick in revenue. Brandon's first official day on the job was the UConn game when the luxury boxes opened. The Big Ten Network and the expiration of the Big Ten rights deal provided another large bump.

What revenue that is attributable to Brandon comes from piling a bunch of rights together and selling them in a pile to IMG and testing the outer limits of what people will pay for Michigan football tickets. That's good if you're running a public company and your stock options are about to vest, but there are indicators everywhere that the fanbase has finally been worn down. Brandon is chipping away at fan goodwill constantly, and I worry about the long term impact of the clear divide between big chunks of the fanbase (and all of the students) and Brandon.

Meanwhile, what do I care about the amount of money flowing into Michigan's pockets? It does me no good. It doesn't seem to do anyone any good. The Big Ten has been the nation's best money extraction device for some years now and they still end up hiring Tim Beckmann. Meanwhile, every athletic department in the Big Ten is trying to find ways to launder their piles of cash by plowing it into minor sports that hold the same interest for me no matter how well they're supported.

I do like the legends patches (if only they'd stop screwing with people's numbers), but the rest of the changes he's made to the Michigan gameday experience have been negative.

As for potential replacements, there are a couple of Michigan alums at prominent schools: Jeff Long is at Arkansas and Warde Manuel at UConn. Long got handed a poop sandwich when Bobby Petrino had his motorcycle sexytime accident, but recovered impressively by pirating Bret Bielema away from Wisconsin. Whatever your personal opinion of Bielema, that is a coup of a hire for a school like Arkansas. He was just named the chair of the CoFoPoff's selection committee, as well, so he's respected within the AD community.

Manuel hired Turner Gill at Buffalo, who briefly made Buffalo not the worst team in D-I, and then ended up hiring Kevin Ollie at UConn, though that was not much of a decision. Paul Pasqualoni was already in place when he was hired at UConn; he fired him and replaced him with ND DC Bob Diaco after taking a swing at MSU DC Pat Narduzzi. That may or may not work out but that process seems pretty sensible to me.

Importantly, both of these guys have experience in the job they'd have at Michigan.

Basketball redshirts

Could you give odds/estimates on the likelihood of all six freshmen redshirting next year?  At the end of the regular season we expected Doyle and probably Wilson to redshirt.  Now they're both potentially heavy rotation players while two unheralded wing players signed up that may play key roles or may redshirt.  Help us sort out the situation.

Doyle, Wilson, and Chatman are all going to play. I don't expect Hatch to. MAAR/Dawkins is where it gets interesting. Michigan has tried to redshirt guys who are young and need some polishing, but both MAAR and Dawkins are older than average freshmen. For MAAR that's just because he's older; for Dawkins it's because he took a prep year.

It would make sense for one to redshirt with Michigan looking at a small (one member?) 2015 class, but with the NBA attrition these days you might want to play both in an effort to see which guy can help you more down the stretch and prepare both to take over for LeVert and possibly Irvin. I'm guessing everyone plays.

Bagmen conspiracy

There have been three high level recruits who have decommitted this recruiting season.  My question relates to the bagman article mgoblog referred to a couple months back: is there a possibility that there are Michigan bagmen who disapprove Brady Hoke and have pulled their resources from high level recruits in an effort to more quickly dump Hoke?  I realize there are many factors that play in, I just can't help but wonder after reading the bagman article.

-mp2

No. While I imagine bagmen play into the recruitment of one of the guys who has decommitted, the situation there was more local guys getting involved with family members than anything Michigan did or did not do.

I don't know if Michigan actually has bagmen per se. It doesn't seem like their style, and it doesn't really seem like their style to remove support even if they do exist.

Occam's Razor suggests that the guys who have decommitted have done so because they saw last season's football team and are a little leery of signing on with a program that might be seeing a coaching change in the near future.

[After the JUMP: some soccer stuff.]

Brian,

Reading your pieces regarding the World Cup run by the USMNT as well as following the O'Bannon trial stuff has left me with an interesting question.  Do you think that significant change with the NCAA would lead to significant changes in sports like soccer? 

College soccer in this country has a history of sending players to the USMNT (Dempsey, Zusi, Omar, etc) but it seems like MLS is now pushing more towards developing young players and getting them into a professional environment sooner (Yedlin, Luis Gil).  Klinsmann has talked in the past about the benefits of a professional environment opposed to playing college soccer. 

If changes came down the pipe regarding likeness rights or paying players, how would you foresee schools utilizing the new rules?  Are they going to continue to focus on revenue sports or will the non-revenue stuff see the changes as well?  What about if the power conferences break off to form their own division away from the NCAA? Just curious as to your thoughts of how NCAA changes would affect other non-major sports.

Thanks!
Ben
Des Moines, IA

College soccer has been flogged as a hindrance to the USMNT for far too long. Soccer's like reading: if you can't do it by 18 there ain't nothing a college can do to help you. The NCAA's practice and game restrictions are an increasingly small issue since a lot of top-flight prospects either skip college entirely or leave after a year or two.

They can do this now because there are people willing to pay them to play. NCAA structure is less of a problem than the fact that there were few (or no) alternatives. MLS is gradually changing this. They keep adding teams, and now there's a push towards having USL PRO affiliate reserve teams.

So, yeah, in a world where a small number of schools can go do something innovative without having to get it past Indiana State, there is the possibility of revamping a portion of college soccer to make more sense in the larger context. One way to do this is to ignore the NCAA altogether. BYU's team plays in the PDL, which is roughly the fourth tier of soccer in the country. They have to go to class and keep on track to graduate; they are otherwise completely free to do whatever they want to soccer their best soccer.

Zoom out a bit. Chicago's currently playing a kid named Harrison Shipp, who was a homegrown signing for them. (MLS now has a rule that kids you developed in your academy for at least a year can be signed without going through the draft.) He spent a year at ND before signing for MLS. There's a kid at Stanford everyone's hype about who the Sounders will scoop up in another year.

It would make sense to formalize these relations, to take a number of colleges who are open to the idea and make them extensions of these MLS teams' academies. The NCAA could allow this; if they don't the colleges can just go do it on their own, like BYU. This will help fix the current problem with college soccer: it's got the brands but it doesn't have the level of play to make it attractive. You might have something if Washington and Ohio State and Northwestern were local affiliates for MLS teams.

This is probably too weird to fit in the NCAA even in the upcoming autonomy era, but there's no reason every sport has to be sanctioned by Mark Emmert. Sometimes NCAA sports are just dumb. Don't get me started on baseball.

Futbol!  

General Comment - I think a lot of the country got caught up in the World Cup and while we don't want MGoBlog to turn into MGoUSMNT, I think it would be welcomed to build a little on your recent coverage before fall.

With hindsight being 20-20, what decisions (with tactics or personnel) would you have made differently, building off of your game columns?

In hindsight? I would have replaced Davis with Donovan, Johannsson with Eddie Johnson, and Green with Mo Edu. Davis was nonentity in the Germany game, the US had no replacement for Altidore, and they had no defensive midfield backup once they decided that Beckerman and Jones were playing together.

If I had Klinsmann's roster, though, I don't think I would have done that much different other than roll with Beckerman against Belgium. Removing him turned out to be a major error that left Belgium pile and piles of space. I would have started Diskerud against Germany instead of Davis, with Mix at the tip of the diamond and Bradley/Jones as the "shuttlers" beside, but that hypothetical change wasn't likely to do much about the result.

There wasn't much else to do. Klinsmann was repeatedly, literally hamstrung with forced substitutions. The logical assumption after Johannsson went in for surgery as soon as the WC was over was that he was not available for selection, or at least that picking him would be a big gamble. Then you're down to Wondolowski as your one true striker. That's some bad luck.

I don't think most casual fans realize that we never got to see Bradley or Dempsey play their actual positions/roles in this tournament with Altidore's injury.  How would the product on the field looked if those three players were in their natural spots/roles?  Do you think it would have affected any outcomes? 

Oh, I don't know, man. We saw how Germany's back line got stretched over and over again by Algeria's Islam Slimani. That kind of thing is definitely in Altidore's wheelhouse and would have given the US a pressure outlet, allowing them to have more of the game. And then we saw a major uptick in USA possession once Wondolowski came in, as Dempsey finally got to drop back into the midfield and combine with Bradley.

That's the part that really hurts. With Altidore up top there was a clear link pattern: defenders get it to Bradley—Bradley, Dempsey, and Altidore interchange. Cutting out Altidore and replacing him with either Zusi, Bedoya, or Davis was a huge downgrade.

I do think the US would have had more possession and found more balanced games. They may not have turned that extra possession into goals, but it's hard to judge Klinsmann for not delivering the pretty possession soccer he promised once an admittedly irreplaceable chunk of the team goes out.

Comments

CarrIsMyHomeboy

July 9th, 2014 at 6:04 PM ^

Saying "but Maryland and others lost money last year" is a maximally simple-minded comparison. A better comparison would be "Remember the years before Bill Martin came on and Michigan was operating in the red?" 

But while that is a much more fitting side-by-side for illustrating that it takes more than just any ol' schlub for Michigan to turn great revenue gains, it ignores some Brobdingnagian changes to the financial landscape over the last 15ish years.

Would Goss and Roberson have still overseen the department's financial dive beneath the dirt if they had luxury boxes and the BTN cash cow? Or would they also have seen Michigan almost-peerlessly leading the nation in revenue if they had those things to make their jobs easier? It's impossible to certainly answer the 2nd question, but my suspicion is yes.

Meanwhile, I agree more with the following corollary of what Brian said than with what he actually said:

Bill Martin gets too little credit for the Michigan athletic department's current financial situation, and Dave Brandon gets too much.

trueblueintexas

July 9th, 2014 at 7:09 PM ^

The statement was Maryland and the 90+% of programs. I didn't pick one school as a comparison point. I did pick Maryland as a call out of the 90+% because they should be in a stable financial situation with their Under Armor and ACC affiliations, and yet their finances were a train wreck. The fact that 90+% of athletic departments do not make money says to me Brandon is doing something right compared to most other AD's.

CarrIsMyHomeboy

July 9th, 2014 at 9:02 PM ^

You are only repeating yourself here without rewording your argument in ways helpful, revelatory, or new. When I retyped "Maryland and others" as your opinion, I was explicitly admitting that you weren't singling them out. Which is my point. 

Go back and look: When I called your Maryland-Michigan comparison weak, that was never about you singling out the Terrapins (...) I typed "and others" after all. Instead, I tried to highlight the silliness of comparing Michigan to an entirely different species of athletic department. Maryland and the other "90+%" in or below their athleto-economic strata do not have Michigan's luxury boxes, television pipeline, fan base, or--since this is about DB--"brand power." I think you didn't realize this part as my point.

Just because we know some athletic directors fail but others succeed at Maryland-like ("bottom 90%") schools doesn't mean that if Michigan hired Joe (Bad-With-Numbers) Schmo as AD, he still couldn't find some degree of financial success. Because the last relevant comparison (2010s lower 90% schools are bad comparisons) is of a very different financial era (1990s Michigan is a far better comparison), and in this era Michigan, Texas, Ohio State, et al. haven't had an opportunity to test a hypothesis about (a) low AD quality and (b) department poverty. 

I don't have the credentials to talk about this quantitatively, but from the qualitative perspective, a bad AD has way more room for error with Michigan resources than with "bottom 90%" resources.

Penders

July 9th, 2014 at 7:39 PM ^

It is absolutely ridiculous that you are putting the obsession with Brandon on the fans and not DB himself. Brandon WANTS to be a rock star AD that people talk about. If he didn't, you wouldn't see him on the sidelines at the end of good wins trying to get photographed.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

July 9th, 2014 at 7:58 PM ^

I have never seen a fan base so obsessed with the AD.

They're out there.  BC fans couldn't wait for Gene DiFilippo to retire.  Debbie Yow has managed to rile two different fanbases.  At UVA we not only argue about the AD but we obsess (in a very, very negative way) over the associate AD.  Trust me, as much angst as we have over Brandon, UVA fans have U-M fans beat hands down in the obsess-over-the-admin department.  (Not surprising, either, considering the presidency kerfuffle.)  This is just examples from the ACC where I have half a clue; I would also venture to guess that USC fans have had strong opinions about their leadership, and probably quite a few fanbases had their admin in the crosshairs during the whole realignment business.

At any rate, the main flaw in your argument is that Brian is exaggerating for effect when he says you or I could've done the job; the point, I think, is that so much (or all) of that stuff that you list could be done by a lot of qualified people, many of whom would be better at the stuff we don't like about Brandon.

trueblueintexas

July 9th, 2014 at 11:53 PM ^

My primary point is Brandon's bosses focus on a different list of objectives and deliverables than the fans on this blog. By the job duties I listed above, Brandon does not do a bad job. In many respects, he does a very good job. Those may not be the top focus for the fans, but I think it is important for those who constantly bash Brandon to see a different perspective than they may have thought about. With so many athletic departments in poor shape, despite all of the money flowing through college sports, Brandon has things running well at Michigan. That's just my lone voice and opinion against the chorus of hate Brand-on, Uniformz, Rawk music, etc.

Bosch

July 10th, 2014 at 12:46 AM ^

sort of..... prices are rising everywhere..... but not at the rate they have been rising for Michigan.  In DB's first 4 years (2010 to 2013), the average ticket price in my season package jumped approximately 10% per year, with factoring in PSD increase phased in over 2 years.  How can you not be disgusted with that?

Here is a table that you might find interesting:

     Ave Cost   Capacity   Receipts (Mil) 
1 Notre Dame  $        294        80,795  $                 23.8
2 Ohio State  $        246      104,851  $                 25.8
3 Michigan  $        230      109,900  $                 25.3
4 Nebraska  $        210        87,091  $                 18.3
5 Texas A&M  $        204      106,511  $                 21.7
6 Georgia  $        188        92,746  $                 17.4
7 LSU  $        181        92,542  $                 16.8
8 Alabama  $        179      101,821  $                 18.2
9 Iowa  $        166        70,585  $                 11.7
10 Oklahoma  $        161        82,112  $                 13.2
11 Oregon  $        160        53,800  $                   8.6
12 Florida  $        159        88,548  $                 14.1
13 Washington  $        151        72,500  $                 10.9
14 Texas  $        150      100,119  $                 15.0
15 Miss State  $        146        61,337  $                   9.0
16 S. Carolina  $        146        80,250  $                 11.7
17 Tennessee  $        134      102,455  $                 13.7
18 Penn State  $        133      106,572  $                 14.2
19 USC  $        130        93,607  $                 12.2
20 Boise State  $        125        37,000  $                   4.6
21 Ok State  $        122        60,218  $                   7.3
22 NC State  $        118        57,583  $                   6.8
23 W. Virginia  $        116        60,540  $                   7.0
24 Syracuse  $        114        49,262  $                   5.6
25 K State  $        114        50,000  $                   5.7

Average prices factor in seat donation and are as compiled by Forbes in 2013.

Perhaps it's just me, but I think the fans should be shown a little appreciation for squeezing into 18" of space week after week so that the AD can shuffle a few more bodies through the turnstyle.  Instead the AD chooses to see just how elastic the ticket prices are.  That's a slippery slope.  I don't care what simple economics supports.

pearlw

July 9th, 2014 at 6:02 PM ^

Personally I think Dave Brandon's job is very secure at this point. He has run the AD at a huge profit the last couple years, record revenues and many huge donations, and has invested heavily in non-revenue facility upgrades. He has made plenty of good hires (Arico, Bakich) including what we have been told here are some great ones in past couple months (tennis, water polo). Overall on the field results across all sports have been OK (finished 13th nationally in director's cup this past academic year despite no help from football/hockey). Lets be realistic - the guy isnt going to be fired over charging what people perceive to be $50 too much for student tickets.

His emphasis on non-revenue sports and upgrading those facilities is not appreciated. The real story is they are raising revenue from football and using it to pay for other sports. If you like that, then he has done a good job. If you dont appreciate non-revenue sports at all, then you are going to complain about how much more you have to pay for football tickets and the revenue methods used to extract more money out of football.

Brian is perfect example by flat out saying above that he has no increased interest in minor sports whether they are supported or not. So of course Brian will have problem with this - he does not appreciate Brandon squeezing more revenue out of football (which alienates football fans) to get more money to improve the softball and volleyball facilities.

Brian effectively says he would have no more interest in softball whether they are supported and the facilities are good. The reality is that facilities and support are extremely important for every sport including the non-revenue ones. Those sports have huge difference in facilities across schools and the top softball players will want to go to the schools where it is actually supported. 

So for those saying that Brandon is extracting too much revenue out of football...you need to explicitly state that you dont want money spent on these non-revenue sports. If Brandon's job is to improve the experience for all student-athletes (not just football), then I believe he is making progress toward that. 

 

CarrIsMyHomeboy

July 9th, 2014 at 6:15 PM ^

I think you've made the best argument anyone can for Brandon (...) that his decision to hyper-fund nonrevenue sports has the potential to turn those nonrevenue sports into national juggernauts. That's by far the best thing he's done.

And, depending on what happens in the O'Bannon case, it might even turn out to have been laced with some Machiavellian providence. Because what happens if the nation's ADs start having to reallocate a significant portion of revenue to a new source (the athletes)? Well one likely outcome is that nonrevenue facility building will come to a standstill nationwide. If true, then those select few who capitalized on the recent meadowy interregnum between the onset of new big money (e.g., BTN) and the onset of new big costs (i.e., O'Bannon) will reap the rewards for a generation.

Having said that...if I'm right, and Brandon's biggest value to Michigan was this, then why keep him around in a post-O'Bannon era where revenue allocation changes significantly? Because in that kind of (putative) future, this great skill of Brandon's would be way moreso a matter of history whereas the problem areas would remain well rooted in the present.

pearlw

July 9th, 2014 at 6:46 PM ^

Whether it comes true or not, I agree with the possibility that the BTN and nonrevenue investment may look very prescient under some O'Bannon scenarios. I think part of the investment is done for this reason and part of it was that the previous administration didnt invest in these areas as it didnt raise the revenue to do much of this.

You are right that the post O'Bannon environment may result in dollars going directly to the athletes while now they already go indirectly to the athletes through the form of these improved facilities.

Regarding your question of if you are right then why keep Brandon around in the post O'Bannon environment. There is always a question if someone else's skill set would be better than his in a new environment. However, if what you said came true, then the best argument for keeping him around would be that you had someone who thought ahead and had the foresight to make decisions that put you in the right position when the environment changed and that is exactly what you want in a leader. This is in addition to the fact that they are in the process of the facility upgrade schedule so you may want to keep around the person who designed the strategy and schedule.

DarkWolverine

July 9th, 2014 at 7:32 PM ^

By AD performance measures that matter, Brandon is doing well. This blog has a distorted view of what is important, and nit picks just for sport. As history has shown, Michigan has had great success across many sports, revenue and non-revenue. Typically top ten performances in Director's Cup demonstrates that, and Brandon is keen on sustaining and improving that performance in all sports. I don't think he is one of those guys that wants this job until he has to be carried out. So, the haters may get a new guy sooner than they might think. The complaining will continue, no matter who is hired.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

July 9th, 2014 at 8:05 PM ^

So for those saying that Brandon is extracting too much revenue out of football...you need to explicitly state that you dont want money spent on these non-revenue sports.

That is emphatically not true.  There's a certain amount of money beyond which you're just gilding the lily, and which won't help those teams anymore.  I don't know for sure what it is, but my guess is we've passed that point.  You can basically sink money into facilities, coaches, and scholarships, and you can't pour extra money into scholarships.  Once you have good, well-paid coaches and gleaming facilities, what's left?

The point that I've been making for a long time now is, we are basically at that point, and there's very little left that's useful for spending money on.  And I think that point was backed up by the revelation that the growth of admin salaries in the department is outpacing revenue growth by 2-to-1.

pearlw

July 9th, 2014 at 9:07 PM ^

I guess I read this as in line with my point as you are saying that you dont want more money spent on non-revenue sports...which is exactly what I said needed to be declared if you complain about too much revenue being generated.

It sounds like your distinction is where I said in original post "you dont want money spent on..." where my first sentence of this post says "you dont want MORE money spent on..."

I agree that there is some line where it doesnt make sense and you suggest we have passed this point. Your line states "Once you have good, well-paid coaches and gleaming facilities, what's left?". I guess my point is that we dont have the gleaming facilities yet on most of those nonrevenue sports and that is what the increased spending is set to build. When that is done, then I can see your point more than I do in the current state. Going over past quotes from Brandon, it looks like finishing the facilities will take past 2020. So I think it does sort of come down to stating which one of these facility upgrades you want to cancel.

For completeness, here are some of quotes I was referencing

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“We’ve identified 16 projects that will fundamentally change our athletic campus to the betterment of every one of our 900-plus student athletes, our 31 coaches and our 41 teams,” Brandon said. “It affords us the ability to give them facilities to study in and prepare academically all the way to strength and conditioning to health and wellness, practice facilities and competition facilities.”
“This investment will really be geared to our Olympic sports, our women’s sports, a number of the sports programs that frankly haven’t had significant investments in the last 10-15 years,” Brandon said. “It’s going to make a lot of student athletes happy.”

Brandon said he hopes to complete a few projects every year so that the full vision of this transformation could be seen well within the next decade. It seems as though next on the docket will be building practice and competition facilities for the men’s and women’s lacrosse team, as well as renovations and upgrades to the men’s and women’s track building. Brandon also mentioned creating “homes” for the men’s and women’s soccer program and upgrades to volleyball, wrestling, swimming and diving and rowing.

Blarvey

July 9th, 2014 at 5:47 PM ^

"Meanwhile, what do I care about the amount of money flowing into Michigan's pockets? It does me no good. It doesn't seem to do anyone any good."

I still don't understand this - if the UM athletic department is swimming in cash, why does it take massive donations to build new facilities and why are they endowing coaching titles? Are donors just lining up to throw money at Michigan athletics?

Dawggoblue

July 9th, 2014 at 5:53 PM ^

If you made $500,000 a year, and someone offered to donate $1 Million dollars to build you a house, would you say no, I can afford to pay for it myself?  Or would you take said donation, build a house and use your money elsewhere.

 

I work for a non profit hospital.  Our operating budget is not used for building anything.  All of that is done through donation.  We just built $100 Million new hospital and believe me we are not hurting for money.

Blarvey

July 9th, 2014 at 6:44 PM ^

That part makes sense. What doesn't make sense to me is why, then, it is necessary to raise ticket prices or ban outside seat cushions to get there?

I am conflicted because maximizing revenue is good in principle but alienating students (potential future donors) is a bad long-term strategy. It is like the company that sacrifices quality to save on input costs or Comcast.

pearlw

July 9th, 2014 at 7:20 PM ^

The extra revenue (whether it be from raising ticket prices or the donations) is needed to invest and improve the facilities for all sports.

Brian is saying Michigan is drowning in money because he is saying he could care less about supporting student athletes in other sports and investing in improved non-revenue facilities. If you do that (stop spending money to improve those other sports), then yes the AD would be awash in money and wouldnt need to raise prices.

Complaining about ticket prices isn't making a complete point until you say what you want to cut from the expense side. While I disagree with him, I appreciate that Brian is at least making the complete argument by saying that he does not want to increase the support of those other sports. 

991GT3

July 9th, 2014 at 5:51 PM ^

Nussmier coming to Michigan. Brandon knows his ass is tied to the football program. If I am not mistaken he had a hand in Beilein replacing his entire staff. This may happen with the Michigan staff if they have another mediocre season. Hoke will stay but there will be wholesale staff changes. Brandon will try to work the same miracle as he did with Beilein. 

As far as hiring Hoke, Hoke has proven to be a stellar recruiter though his coaching and game management leave much to be desired. A top of the line staff will overcome many of his deficiencies.

woodfeld

July 9th, 2014 at 5:52 PM ^

Brian, wouldn't you say one of the positives of Brandon was bringing night games to the Big House?  UTL games have been great for fans and hugely popular for recruiting.  I know it was probably only a matter of time until night games happened (need to keep up with the joneses for $$/recruiting purposes), but still, he is the one that made it happen, no?

Clark Griswold

July 9th, 2014 at 9:44 PM ^

Ehhhh. I kind of agree with you. Having one a year is stupid though. SEC schools have multiple. I'd like us to have multiple. It's sad it took us so long to have on. I hate being compared to the Cubs.

funkywolve

July 10th, 2014 at 1:22 AM ^

I think there are a couple things that come into play:

1)  The weather in the south is usually still very hot and humid in September.  It's probably much more appealing to the fans and players to have a good amount of the September games played in the evening then during the afternoon.  The Arizona schools as well as USC/UCLA I believe also play a good amount of their home games early in the year at night because of this.

2) TV.  Most, if not all, of the starting times for games these days are set by TV.  It's probably not to hard for Brandon to convince ABC/ESPN to put the ND game in the prime time slot.  Considering how weak the Big Ten's reputation nationally has been lately and how weak UM's non-conference slate has been other then ND, it'd probably take a pretty good argument by Brandon to get one of the other non-conference games or games against a lower level Big Ten opponent on ESPN in prime time.  That being said it does seem that UM plays a fair amount of away games at night.

Mr Miggle

July 9th, 2014 at 5:56 PM ^

after being left off the roster, how well would he have accepted the role Davis had? I'm inclined to give Klinsmann the benefit of the doubt regarding team chemistry. 

Everyone Murders

July 10th, 2014 at 1:25 PM ^

I'm with you on deferring to Klinsmann regarding team chemistry, and also think that he has a right to build a team to a Donovan free model.  And I believe that if Donovan being off the roster was the result of a Julian Green "golden handshake" then I support Klinsmann even more, as I think Green will pay long-term dividends.

But in Brian's defense the question was couched "in hindsight".  Once Altidore went down, it sure would have been nice to have Donovan, even though they are very different players.  I agree with the person that wrote the inquiry to Brian that Altidore's injury had a ripple effect, putting Bradley out of position, putting Dempsey somewhat out of position - having Donovan could have minimized that ripple effect.

The Geek

July 9th, 2014 at 6:25 PM ^

is he comes across as douchy. I know his heart is in the right place.  He played for Bo, which carries a great deal of weight for me. The young men recruited and coached by that man are all special.

The sky-writing, "if it ain't broke, break it," the stupid Mac & Cheese noodle and several other faults discussed ad nauseum here have caused his "personality" to wear on me. The less I hear about Dave (sorry, it's David now) Brandon, the better. 

I'm not obsessed about it, but I would equate it to a Redskins fan having to deal with Dan Snyder, or a Cowboys fan coming to terms with Douchy McDouchebag as the owner/GM.

 

Penders

July 9th, 2014 at 7:58 PM ^

Aside from the tidbit that you could argue Brandon did not technically "play" for Bo, Schembechler had well over 1,000 young men come in and out of his program during his two decades as coach. Painting them with such a broad brush and calling them all "special" seems pretty juvenile. Any group that large is bound to be a wide cross-section of personalities. Not everyone is a great guy.

Don

July 9th, 2014 at 10:05 PM ^

To be honest I agree with you. I'm not a huge fan of DB in some ways, but I don't see any justification for demeaning his standing as a player, any more than any other guy who rode the pines. If nothing else, DB was at practice every day getting his brains beat in and yelled at by Bo just like any other guy.

rederik

July 9th, 2014 at 11:10 PM ^

I'm not sure his heart is in the right place. He seems entirely bottom-line oriented (at the expense of the fans), and it appears to me that, based on this apparent lack of understanding or appreciation for providing the Michigan community atmosphere (vs a "mini Super Bowl" every week), his 20-whatever years in corporate boardrooms have overridden whatever Michigan-first values he might have learned in his four years under Bo.

rederik

July 10th, 2014 at 8:14 AM ^

You are confusing what is done with the bottom line with the focus on the bottom line. DB is attempting to maximize revenue in all areas which bring in revenue, i.e., football, basketball, to an extent hockey, Big House events/tours, etc. The nonrevenue sports are in comparison where that money goes. Under the athletic department model I see him treating the nonrevenue sports as the shareholders, putting the value earned from the revenue into those. You can disagree with me about this, and in a very narrow sense yes you're right he could instead simply ignore the other sports and somehow find another NCAA compliant way to spend that money, but in my mind it's still entirely bottom-line oriented. Why else charge four dollars plus for a water at the Big House, bring on things like "the Michigan Minnesota game officially brought to you by today's game day sponsor, Hyundai" and try to charge everyone for seat cushions?

pearlw

July 10th, 2014 at 9:24 AM ^

I agree with the general line of reasoning in your comment about the nonrevenue sports being the shareholders. In a way, I would clarify it by saying his actions are more in line with the student athletes of all the sports being his primary shareholders. He seems to be focused on improving the experience for all the athletes (whether revenue or nonrevenue) and that requires taking revenue from the high profile sports to pay for the experiences of the nonrevenue student athletes.

I take a bit of an issue with your comment about the focus on the bottom line and the $4 dollar waters. I understand your point but to not focus on the net total sounds a bit like just charge a certain price and see how the numbers shake out at the end of the year. This is a large budget he runs and slight errors can easily result in losses so a strong focus on the numbers is just a fact of life.

Perhaps the way he thinks about the AD is...he has designed a strategy and vision on where he wants the athletic department to be in say 10 years. That vision is largely a function of facilities, coaches, on the field performace, and support for athletes. All of these are expense side items. The result is he has to come up with a way to pay for those things and that is why the water costs $4. It may not be so much that he wants to maximize revenue but that he is trying to find a way to pay for that vision/strategy.

The distinction would be that he is totally focused on the expense side to create that vision...which results in him having to come up with ways to pay for it. This is opposed to a popular view that he is totally focused on maximizing revenues and then him having to find ways to spend the money.

MaizeSombrero

July 9th, 2014 at 6:27 PM ^

When I went to the M/UConn game last year, I wouldn't say their gameday experience was at all pleasurable. Certainly I understand the difference between M's football program and UConn's, but by the end of that game I felt heavily peppered by the advertisement cannon. I hope that Warde Manuel would understand the tradition of M, and not replicate that UConn gameday experience, but I don't think I could guarantee that he wouldn't be a continuation of the degredation of my Autumn Saturdays.

Also, am I supposed to capitalize Autumn and Saturday above? That doesn't feel right.

BlueFordSoftTop

July 9th, 2014 at 6:56 PM ^

 
Should I ever be bombarded with increased ad placements let alone a new foamy wolverine mascot at Michigan Stadium then I shall never visit the athletic campus again.  I can filter all that out with smart TV or just ignore Michigan athletics altogether.  Brandon has already exceeded the limits in terms of advertising and seven nation army.  He best not encroach further and Connecticut-esque. 0.02

Penders

July 9th, 2014 at 7:47 PM ^

He fired him in the most douchey fashion imagineable and was continuing to take shots at RR as recently as last year (see: "letter of support" for Hoke in November). It's not just the result, but the modus of operation. DB's methods in December 2010 and January 2011 are pretty unforgiveable in my book.