Mailbag: All The Coach Dissatisfaction You Can Muster Comment Count

Brian

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I kid you not, GIS for "looting" and this guy in an off-brand Michigan jersey shows up

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Brian,

Let me know when I should start panicking. I am ready at your command.

Peter

Okay this is where I'm at. I've got a go bag ready. Passports, about 10k in cash, various fake mustaches and sunglasses. I'm up do date on all my vaccines. Are you up to date on your vaccines? I can be in Laos in 15 hours, never to be seen again. Rumors of the white tiger of the jungle will flourish. I will become known only in song and legend.

BUT: note that I am not already in Laos. I am sticking around to see what this season has in store, because weird things happen against Notre Dame and—and bear with me here—this game actually felt much less bad than some hammerings from last year. There are some obvious problems at cornerback and Gardner has to play better but when things went wrong it was mostly one thing going wrong, not eight. So it might get fixed. There is no reason to demand a coaching change right now. Let the season play out and see what happens. If Michigan does catch fire in the crappy Big Ten this game will be a footnote.

Meanwhile, there's no reason to assume a coaching change is coming unless you're literally 75% of my inbox…

A true Michigan Man keeps his promises about the Austro-Hungarian Empire circa July 1914.

Brian,

You may recall that I said I would never write to you about Michigan football again after the BW3 Bowl and my comparison of Michigan football to the Austro-Hungarian Empire circa July 1914.  Since the last part is still true, I won’t make this long.  But your entry today about coaching prospects caused me to think about my second school (the Syracuse Orange).

Here are a LOT of assumptions, but (a) assuming the tire fire rages, (b) Hoke is fired, (c) none of the few big names worth watching (i.e., Miles, the Harbros) is/are available, and (d) Syracuse goes 8-5 or better again this year with a mid to late-December victory, what about a guy like Scott Schafer?  He’s in his mid-40s.  He runs an attacking style defense.  He’s from the Midwest.  He favors an up-tempo offense.  He has to coach against Clemson, FSU, Louisville (and ND this year).  He picked up the pieces after Doug Marrone ran off to the NFL with half of his coaching staff last year.

Might he be someone to watch?  I know the experience as Rich Rod’s DC did not work out.  But given his success running the defense at SU (particularly following GROB), that seems like it was more an issue of Rodriguez trying to make him run a defense he didn’t want to run.  He left with grace and took the blame that may not have been 100% his.

Just a thought – I’m grasping at straws . . .

Dan G

UM ‘85

Syr. Law ‘88

I don't think Shafer has a track record to get excited about. He did improve the Syracuse defense upon his arrival but he hit a ceiling pretty quick. FEI rankings for his defenses at 'Cuse:

2009: 70th
2010: 38th
2011: 39th
2012: 39th
2013: 65th (as head coach)

In FEI there are a lot of schedule adjustments so 39th isn't nearly as good as it is in straight yardage rankings. Meanwhile he'd have two years of head coaching experience, the first a 7-6 season, and the second an 8-5 one. I liked Shafer and know for a fact he got a raw deal from Rodriguez's defensive assistants, and then Rodriguez himself. But even if you don't hold that against him his resume is thin.

He is a guy to track, since he is a poachable head coach not in the MAC. That he's worth tracking is a good summation of the available talent this year.

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I regret to inform you that you will not stop drinking.

I have to stop drinking. But it did help me come up with this half-baked gem of an idea.

There is no way this is possible, but I am going to choose to believe this to make myself feel better. Maybe Dave Brandon is gouging prices and focusing solely on the athletic department's bottom line for a reason. Money fixes things at times, and who is to say he is planning on firing Brady Hoke at the end of the year and luring someone back to Michigan. Maybe Harbaugh, maybe Les Miles. Sure they have great gigs right now, but if Dave Brandon called you and offered you some insane amount of money to come to Michigan, wouldn't you take it? 10-15 Million dollars a year? The crazy thing, I think Dave Brandon is just dumb enough to do it.

Alex

P.S. Aaron Wellman sucks too. Bring back Mike Barwis!

If that was the case, Brady Hoke would not have the contract he does right now, because he would not have earned it. He would be paid somewhere in the middle of Big Ten coaches instead of right at the top, thus giving Brandon even more financial muscle to put his meat on the table when the time comes.

The Occam's Razor explanation of the revenue drive is that Brandon has been CEO of a publicly traded company where nothing much matters other than the numbers you present quarterly.

PS: dude has a TV show he ain't never comin' back to any college.

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DESPERATE IDEAS FOR DESPERATE TIMES [Bryan Fuller]

You don't interim unless you have to interim.

Brian - why haven't I heard any talk of promoting Greg Mattison to HC?  Worst case scenario we get blown out by MSU and all the noise forces Brandon's hand.  I could see a scenario where interim HC turns into a full time position next year.  He's got the fire in his eyes that Hoke never had, and it seems to me he's a better choice than any other available candidates.  It would also help shore up the progress we've made without cleaning house and starting a new 2-3 year rebuilding cycle. 

I'm dreading the coaching carousel that ND went through before they hired Kelly.  He's close to retirement for sure, but it might be a nice icing on top of a successful career, before he hands over the reins to someone like Nussmeier. 

Plausible?
Keith 2004

Uh. Keith. My man. I don't want to be harsh, but cumong man. Voluntarily interim-ing yourself is nuts. You lose a coach, you paper him over with a GA, you torpedo your recruiting for the next three months*, and you rob yourself of the opportunity to not fire a guy in case there is a major turnaround.

The benefits are…? I guess you get started on a coaching search earlier but you can do that in private now. That's what coaching search firms exist for.

*[Even if you do change coaches having an interim situation is worse than the sudden firing. Most guys stick even after a change, because they're comfortable with the program and school.]

TEMPO BLAME

Hey Brian,
I'm wondering how much of the tempo blame we should assign to Hoke vs. Nussmeier. Obviously Hoke is the man in charge, but it's been said before that he allows his coordinators autonomy in play-calling and the like. It seems this would be especially true for offense, where he lacks personal experience.

If it's Nussmeier's decision to not press the tempo, is this perhaps because this is the players' first year in the system? When he pressed the tempo at Washington and Alabama, was he doing it with players in their first year?

Thanks,
beenplumb

Sheer confusion is a likely explanation for tempo issues, both on the part of Michigan's players and their coaches. A lot of the things that went wrong in this game can be filed under Dumb Stuff. Hell, two bubble screens got blown up because the outside receiver blocked the wrong guy. Michigan is still trying to figure out what to do in a new scheme and the OC is trying to figure out what he can call that will actually work.

It's not a very smart team right now for some legitimate reasons. When Michigan did speed them up they got an easy QB sneak conversion… and had a false start on the very next play. So, yeah.

A big chunk of this is on Hoke, though, for holding on to the increasingly outdated huddle. A team that lives at tempo and assumes a call from the sideline as they get aligned for the next play often has time to change the call twice before they snap it. More and more teams are ditching it; do not expect Michigan to join them this year.

BOX SCORE BLAME

You're making a lot of the box score looking pretty good, but I think it's misleading. In the first half the yardage was round 250 to 160 Notre Dame including 3 flawless drives. The fact that they had 18 yards in the 4th quarter while killing time says nice stuff about M's ability to stop the run when everyone knows it's coming, but not much more.

Hey man I'm just saying it's better than getting bombed for 600 yards like Oregon did that one time and better than getting –48 rushing yards like Michigan did last year against MSU. By defensive drive:

  1. First down and out.
  2. 80 yard TD drive
  3. 56 yard TD drive
  4. Three and out.
  5. 61 yard TD drive.
  6. Three and out.
  7. 0 yard FG drive.
  8. Three and out.
  9. Three and out. (That you should probably not consider.)

That's bad. It could have looked a lot better if Michigan had spread those yards out across more drives. And the problems seemed very localizable: Hollowell and Countess. They might not play those guys much when Peppers and Taylor get back.

The Fred Jackson question.

What exactly does Fred Jackson bring to the table? I only became a Michigan fan in 2006 when my (now) father-in-law gave me a few John Bacon books, particularly Bo's Lasting Lessons. I mention this because I didn't get to witness Mike Hart's development over his time at Michigan. Since then, it doesn't seem like a single RB has improved while at Michigan, whereas those that left (Cox, Rawls) have improved drastically. Between their inability to get the tough yards and horrendous blitz pickups, could the RBs be as much to blame for poor performance the past few years as the O-Line? And if so, why is Fred Jackson still employed?

Thanks,
Matya

The thing about Mike Hart is that he didn't really develop. Michigan found itself in desperate straights when David Underwood kept falling over when someone breathed on him and turned to Hart on the second game of his freshman season. Hart ripped off 120-some yards against SDSU in a fashion we would soon recognize as Hart-like, and was the same guy for the rest of his career.

Hart was kind of a running back genius, fully formed and eking the maximum production out of his somewhat limited physical capabilities from day one. Nobody got caught from behind more than Mike Hart.

Running back recruits since:

  • Mister Simpson was a camp commit who never panned out and transferred.
  • Kelvin Grady was a five star who was massively overrated. Got some short yardage carries, was passed over.
  • Brandon Minor was pretty good when healthy as a straight-ahead rageback.
  • Avery Horn was way overmatched and transferred after one year.
  • Sam McGuffie got concussed three times as a freshman, transferred to Rice, and had a decent career as a slot receiver.
  • Mike Cox, another camp commit, never saw any playing time despite his obvious physical gifts, transferred to UMass for his senior year, got drafted in the seventh round by the Giants, and had 43 carries as a rookie.
  • Mike Shaw saw some time, mostly bounced things to the sideline no matter what, and faded away.
  • Teric Jones never played.
  • Vincent Smith was a terrific blocker and feisty third down back and throwback screen merchant.
  • Fitzgerald Toussaint looked like a future star as a sophomore, got injured, was poor damn Toussaint as a junior, and then was flabbergastingly incompetent at pass blocking as a senior.
  • Austin White didn't make it to his first game.
  • Stephen Hopkins got moved to fullback and left.
  • Thomas Rawls didn't do much at Michigan, is currently at CMU, where he's their starter.
  • Justice Hayes, Derrick Green, De'Veon Smith, Wyatt Shallman, and Drake Johnson are currently on the roster.

That track record sucks. Minor was all right, Smith was a warrior and a useful piece (but given that he was from Pahokee almost certainly not a guy Jackson had much role in acquiring), and Toussaint had a negative career trajectory until he just about made an NFL roster. Everyone else was a bust except the guy who left for UMass and got drafted.

With Mike Hart and Ty Wheatley out there the chance that retiring Jackson hurts recruiting is slim; I don't think either could have a ten year(!) window nearly as bad as that.

Speaking of the current guys.

So a friend and I (both big U-M football fans) have grown disillusioned with Green as starting RB and we're not sold on Smith as the feature back. We were impressed with the few touches Hayes got.

We're wondering if there is any chance Hayes will get a serious crack at being the feature back this season? This seems like it should be increasingly likely considering the performance of Smith and Green against a real opponent last weekend, and the reality that the Drake Johnson hype appears to have been one big smoke screen from Fort Schembechler. Thoughts?

Thanks,
Jon Zemke

Hayes's two carries were a ten yard draw on third and twenty and a ten yard draw with 22 seconds left in the first half. On both of those ND was set up to allow the gain and Hayes gained what they were set up to allow. I don't think he made a huge case for himself.

I was frustrated with both backs. Each sabotaged drives by cutting away from massive holes. Some of that is attributable to scheme changes and youth and may get hammered out, but running back is a position where you usually have the instincts or not. Even if there's development to be had there, Jackson may not be the guy to provide it. And I did like Hayes's ability to pick through the gaps zone blocking provides during the spring game.

But for whatever reason he has never been in serious consideration for a primary job. I'd think he's at least worthy of a look if the main guys are going to give you the kind of production they did against ND.

Define optimistic.

I'm trying to be optimistic, but can we just admit that Brady Hoke is our very own Charlie Weiss?

No. Weis was way more unlikeable and had even less track record.

WHA HAPPEN

Brian,

In your podcast, you mentioned that you’d like to see a “Life on the Margins” about the Mich/ND game. Me too, as I didn’t feel particularly down on the play of any individual position group other than the DBs and Devin Gardner (but only slightly down). This was backed up by the box score, which I thought was totally bizarre. So I posted the following on Football Outsider’s OFI article:

I'd like some analysis of the ND/MICH box score. It's totally baffling. 4 turnovers will ordinarily prevent you from winning a game, but - as noted above - Michigan outgained ND in terms of total yardage and controlled TOP. Michigan had 18 first downs to ND's 20.

But even stranger, ND's stats are... pretty bad too. Michigan couldn't run the ball, but Notre Dame ran the ball even more poorly. Everett Golson looked great... until you realize that he averaged 6.6 YPA - only .7 YPA more than Gardner, who perceptibly looked completely terrible. And while the story of the game FELT like Notre Dame converting each and every third down, they were only a respectable 7/15.

Penalties weren't uneven either. Michigan had 5 penalties for 50 yards of loss, but Notre Dame also had 3 for 20. And there wasn't any special team yardage differential - kickoff returning yardage between the teams was identical, and Notre Dame only gained 26 total yards off all of their punt returns combined.

From the box score, this looks like a hard-fought ugly and close game. On the scoreboard, this looks like a laugher. What's the difference?

Brian Fremeau was kind enough to respond, and I think his post is very insightful:

Turnovers didn't play much of a part in the outcome. Michigan had four second half turnovers, but the Irish didn't score after either of the first two and only added a field goal to go up 31-0 after the third one. The game was basically already won before the turnovers started.

In non-garbage time, Michigan's average starting field position was its own 20-yard line, and they had zero drives start closer than 75 yards from the end zone. Notre Dame's average starting field position was its own 39-yard line in non-garbage time, and 7/9 non-garbage possessions started on a field shorter than 75 yards. In total, Notre Dame started its non-garbage possessions 254 yards closer to the end zone.

I think this point deserves more attention. I know it’s not sexy, but our field position game does suck and has sucked for a while. Hagerup is inconsistent and we rarely capitalize on returns. I appreciate any thoughts you may have, and feel free to discuss this on the blog with no attribution necessary if you feel it’s interesting/worthy of mention.

-A A Cascini

It is true that ND was impeccable on special teams and Michigan was… not. That is a major factor, though a big chunk of those non-garbage possession yards I assume are from those turnovers.

Comments

Maize and Blue…

September 10th, 2014 at 1:11 PM ^

I didn't know you were suppose to develop your players into blocking sleds.  You listed a bunch of guys who have been given a lot of hype, but most of them haven't done anything on the field to earn that praise. I'm not saying they couldn't but they haven't yet.  We've heard about Frank Clark for three years now and I still haven't figured out.  Hype without production is BS.

ChuckieWoodson

September 10th, 2014 at 12:42 PM ^

Gardner to succeed as much as anybody.  After what he did in the OSU game last year and playing through the pain is stuff of legend.  But for me personally,  expectations of him have dwindled down conisderably.  I just don't think at this stage of his career he's going to be the QB we need him to be for this season.  I really hope I'm wrong, but it just seems like we keep expecting him to finally break out and he never does.

reshp1

September 10th, 2014 at 12:45 PM ^

I still have some hope for him. Nussmeier was a QB coach first, and a bit of a guru considering his track record. Borges was a QB coach by default. 3 years of bad habits (and a stint at WR) is hard to fix in one offseason. I love the sideline feedback after every drive, it should make for a faster learning process.

Ultimately, I think he'll still break down and revert to bad Devin at times, but it should be mitigated significantly as the season progresses.

ChuckieWoodson

September 10th, 2014 at 1:51 PM ^

All good points - i'm with you on the last paragraph.  I think he has moments of brilliance, but they're tempered by the bad decisions.  Here's to hoping Nuss can bring him back from the last game with some good confidence and hey, you never know.  Hate to reference MSU but I look at Connor Cook's progression through last year and while he never seemed to have the turnover issues as Devin seems to, we did see him progress from backup, to eventual starter, to a good QB by the time the Rose Bowl came around (shutter <chills>)... I feel dirty).

PurpleStuff

September 10th, 2014 at 12:47 PM ^

People keep glossing over losing Jeremy Gallon and the two tackles (and Fitz for that matter), but this team is not as talented as last year on offense.  With Butt hurt, he has one real target to throw to (Funchess),  no running game to lean on, and a hoping-for-mediocre-at-best line protecting him.  If another WR or one of the RB don't emerge, this is going to be a long season for DG, no matter what he's capable of individually.

reshp1

September 10th, 2014 at 1:03 PM ^

Butt actually played 4 plays believe it or not. I didn't notice it live, but there's a few articles about it.

http://michigan.scout.com/story/1449347-jake-butt-talks-returning-vs-no…

Hopefully he's not far from getting significant minutes.

I do agree, and I brought it up in our little debate yesterday, the WR recruiting has been a weakness. No one really emerged from the 2013 class and Chesson and Darboh, while important role players, lack star power and dependable ability to create separation. Canteen is going to be a key piece. I think his freshman mental issues are keeping him from seeing the field right now (the last game ending INT was on him not adjusting his route IMO, based on what I saw and his discussion with Gardner after). I hope he can get it sorted out because we need a guy that can create instant separation with route running skills to replace Gallon as a reliable dump off for Gardner.

PurpleStuff

September 10th, 2014 at 1:13 PM ^

The "freshman issues" is something that frustrates me going all the way back to the Carr era.  The other team I follow (USC) has never had any trouble getting output out of freshmen at the WR position. 

Mike Williams had 1,200+ yards and 14 TD.  Dwayne Jarrett led the team with 800+ yards and 13 TD.  Steve Smith had 300+ yards as a 3rd receiver.  Robert Woods led the team with nearly 800 yards.  Marqise Lee had over 1,100.  This year Adoree Jackson and Juju Smith have been practicing both ways and are making an impact on offense (in addition to the two true freshmen starting on the o-line).

Every 2-3 years a true freshman shows up and has an elite season.  I doubt it is because those guys are super geniuses who just know loads more about football when they arrive.  I can't remember anybody at Michigan doing that, maybe going back to Anthony Carter (or Mike Hart if you want to include RB).

Hopefully we can get over this crap and a guy like Canteen, if he's good enough to make plays, will actually get a chance to show what he's capable of.

Danny Bonaduce

September 10th, 2014 at 1:28 PM ^

All of the USC players you mentioned were elite level recruits (top 25ish overall nationally).  I guess it would be more of a reflection on the lack of elite talent UM has recruited at the skill positions but comparing a kid like Canteen (top 300 player) to those USC WR's is not apples to apples. Also, I'm pretty sure Mario Manningham had a good freshman year at UM but I cannot think of anyone besides him. 

Edit: Manningham had 27 receptions for 433 yards and 6 TD's as a true freshman.  Not great but not too bad for a true freshman.

PurpleStuff

September 10th, 2014 at 1:36 PM ^

That is the kind of impact one would hope for fairly consistently, and it isn't like he was a rocket scientist either.  So like you say, talent seems to be a bigger issue than "freshman issues" or an understanding of the offense.

The main point is that we can't crow about "bulletproof" recruiting and then use a lack of talented recruits as an excuse at the same time.

evenyoubrutus

September 10th, 2014 at 12:46 PM ^

Despite the symbolic nature of actually getting shut out, Michigan had far worse offensive performances under Borges than this one (2011 Iowa, 2013 Nebraska come to mind, but there were many others).

westwardwolverine

September 10th, 2014 at 1:14 PM ^

This. 

If you think about Games like Nebraska, MSU, Iowa and Northwestern, the scenarios weren't much different.

In the shitshow's from a year ago, last year's offense was gifted some short fields or points from the defense and they had two NFL tackles + Jeremy Gallon to work with along with Devin Funchess. 

Against Notre Dame, the offense basically had to drive the field each time if they were going to score a touchdown. If our first two drives had started at the 40 yard-line or if the defense creates a turnover in ND territory, things would have probably been much different. 

The ND game seems like a perfect example of everything that can go wrong, will go wrong. 

@TheDanHagan

September 10th, 2014 at 12:49 PM ^

Is NEVER going to be the head coach at Michigan. The fact he's been passed over not once but twice is telling, as is the fact that Dave Brandon said he would hire Miles "Over my dead body", and at 60 years old, he's not the best candidate anyway. There's just no way it's ever going to happen, along with Gruden/Dungy/Cowher. The Harbaughs are definitely long-shots, especially if Jim is still chasing the elusive Super Bowl. John Harbaugh hasn't coached in college since 1997. Outside of these names, there really aren't any good, realistic candidates.

Not sure Tyrone Wheatley would come back either. He's RB coach of the Buffalo Bills, and it's unlikely he would move down to college to take the same role (and probably less money) in the event Fred Jackson retires. It'd be a great hire but unlikely. Mike Hart only has 2 years as a position coach in the MAC so not much to go on.

Michigasling

September 10th, 2014 at 12:55 PM ^

Posted on the "Poor Toussaint" thread that most people didn't read because the headline apparently said it all, but it was premature/not the whole story, and title not updated:  Toussaint was signed to the practice squad, moved to the active squad for Sunday's game (presumably for depth), and waived afterwards (a DE was taken off the waiver wire, presumably a greater need).  After clearing the waiver wire on Monday, Toussaint was put back on the practice squad, a great place for someone who'd missed a year, came back from a serious injury, but showed promise for the future.  

Mike Cox was on the Giants' practice squad, then moved to the active squad after injuries of others, and played most of last season, primarily on special teams where he was apparently doing well as gunner.  He too was cut after preseason and moved onto the practice squad even though active all (or most of?) last season.  (Still has PSq. eligibility.)

SirJack II

September 10th, 2014 at 1:16 PM ^

Maybe we can get Carr to come back. We'd promise never to complain about 8-4 / 9-3 seasons during which we'd beat Sparty every year, the Buckeyes every other year, lose a weird game at Iowa now and then (or whatever the analogue to Iowa is in our division), demoralize Penn State year after year, and then lose to USC or Oregon or Bama in a big bowl game most years by 10 or 14. Sounds good to me.

trueblue262

September 10th, 2014 at 1:24 PM ^

"I guess you get started on a coaching search earlier but you can do that in private now. That's what coaching search firms exist for."

So, what you're saying is we should start watching the dominos jet on flightaware, right?

 

SC Wolverine

September 10th, 2014 at 1:34 PM ^

I totally agree that the ND catastrophic loss felt a lot different than the terrible losses from last year.  I thought we looked like the better team until the wheels completely fell off.  Even then, it wasn't everything -- as Brian said -- but just a couple of things.  Mainly, it was the ruthless exploitation of Hollowell and Countess.  The problem is, however, that this "one thing" was obvious by the middle of the second quarter and nothing was done about it until the tire was completely lit.  It was good that Mattison said in his press conference that he should have gone with a different package.  What is not good is that Mattison did not think of this while the game was actually happening.  The fact that I thought of it during the game, along with about ten thousand mgobloggers, and he did not is especially alarming.

Anyway, Brian's attempt to talk us off the ledge was pretty successful, I think.  But the coaching concerns don't go away that easily.  I keep reminding myself how the 2011 players praised Hoke and Mattison for their superb coaching compared to what they had been getting.  2011 happened, so maybe there is hope they will fix these problems and get the ship some momentum before we dock in East Lansing.

Magnus

September 10th, 2014 at 2:18 PM ^

As a coach, I will say that mid-game adjustments are not as easy as they sound. You have a lot of different things that you can throw at a team, but you practice against certain things all week. You have your starters getting a lot of reps doing certain things. If they fail once or twice to defend a certain play or player, you sometimes chalk it up to "Hey, everyone makes mistakes" or "He'll fix it next time." You have to let players make mistakes.

Putting in a different package is not ideal. It usually includes getting out of your base defense, moving people around, and/or playing players who aren't as experienced or didn't get as many reps during the week. It's not a magical Band-Aid. There are some inherent flaws in going that route.

My experience with different "packages" on defense is that they are short-term fixes. Rarely do they work for an extended period of time. You can change alignments or change your front or go from a 4-3 to a 4-2-5 or a 3-4, but there are coaches on the other sideline, too. If they see you going to Bear to try to stop the run, they're going to run some man coverage beaters to move the ball and/or get you back in your base defense. If they see you going to a nickel to stop the pass, they're going to run at your weakness.

I think the bottom line is that a fix like that might have made it 24-0 instead of 31-0, but you can't scrap your whole game plan and expect that to totally flip the script of a 31-0 loss.

SC Wolverine

September 10th, 2014 at 5:07 PM ^

This makes sense, the point of which I guess is that the loss of Peppers/Taylor was strategically perfect for wiping us out.  The only think I could think of in the game was to go back to a form of the 4-3, hoping Ross could zone against the slot man.  (I am sure that there are numerous nuances to this that I scarcely grasp -- but Hollowell was getting scorched play after play anyway.  Mattison mentioned that he should have used Ross this way.)  I understand about packages not being a panacea, but the point is that there were no substitutes in the nickel package who could play the scheme.  Anyway, thanks.  What a nightmare the game was.  And I told all my friends that we match up well against ND!

snarling wolverine

September 10th, 2014 at 3:06 PM ^

I think Nuss can certainly be criticized for the overall performance, but too many fans are making a big deal of the shutout streak ending.  Look, we've had many games in which we haven't scored a TD, including several under Borges.  We just always managed to kick FGs in those games, which allowed the streak to survive.  Saturday we had two attempts and went 0-2.  That's the only real difference.

 

 

PeteM

September 10th, 2014 at 3:28 PM ^

I thought they made some interesting points that largely back up my assessment.  It was clear and well-deserved loss, but it didn't seem like a 31-0 loss watching it.

umfanchris

September 10th, 2014 at 3:39 PM ^

The last email states that Hagerup is inconsistent. Well he has been in the past, but he wasn't our issue on Saturday. He averaged 43.5 yards per punt which was over 5 yards per punt more than ND's punter. Last year 43.5 yards would have had him as the 24th punter in the nation. Not too shabby. Hagerup's shortest punt was only 38 yards which is what the ND punter averaged for the game. So actually Hagerup easily won the punting war in that game.   I do agree that our Special teams as a whole is terrible. For some reason we still use the standard punt, which allows more returns then the spread punt. Wile missed 2 important field goals which not only took points off the board, but also gave ND good field position. On offense we had 4 turnovers and 1 other turnover on downs. All of which gave ND great field position. So I don't agree at all with the last emailer mentioning Hagerup as to put blame on him.

 

I dumped the Dope

September 10th, 2014 at 3:42 PM ^

in my mind was allowing ND to score right before half with Zero timeouts.  They marched down the field with first down after first down, stopping the clock to their advantage.

You take away that and its 14-0 at half.  Down, but manageable.  Add the 2FGs and its wide open 14-6.  When they score 21-0 its tough to get back without really shifting gears on offense and trying to hit an early 2nd half homerun to get the fire started.

Armed with the big lead, ND took a lot of chances blitzing without a bunch of risk.  It paid off, admittedly, but made them look like geniuses that they are not.

Ty Butterfield

September 10th, 2014 at 4:20 PM ^

I really just don't get it. Delving into the box score and brining up all sorts of advanced stats to try and make this game look better strikes me as desperation. The only thing that matters is the score. It just reminds of that guy whose girl friend is cheating on him but he just won't accept It. Even when presented with evidence he will give answers like "they just work together" or "she texts him so much because they are trying to finish a big project for work" or "so she is only wearing a bra late at night at his house, I am sure she just spilled something on her shirt and it was in the wash." Hoke is not capable of turning this around. We have already watched this movie and know how it ends. Michigan needs to find a real football coach, not just hire a guy because he knew Bo.