Home
we had subs it was crazy

Primary links

  • About
    • $upport (lol)
    • Ethics
    • FAQ
    • Privacy Policy
  • Contact
  • MGoStore
  • MGoBoard
    • MGoBoard FAQ
    • Ticket spreadsheet
    • Michigan bar locator
    • Moderator Action Sticky
  • Useful Stuff
    • Depth Chart By Class
    • Unofficial Two Deep
    • 2013 Offer Board
    • Crude Bug Tracking System
    • Third Down Stats
    • Diaries, Windows Live Writer, And You
    • Michigan Future Schedules
    • User-Curated HOF
    • 2013 Recruiting Board
    • Where To Eat In Ann Arbor
Home

Navigation

  • Forums
  • Recent posts

User login

  • Create new account
  • Request new password

MGoElsewhere

  • @MGoBlog (Brian)
  • @aceanbender
  • @TomVH (Tom)
  • RSS Feed
  • iPhone App
  • Facebook profile
  • MGoKindle Store
  • mgo.licio.us
  • Brian @ TSB [Archive]
  • Brian @ AOL [Archive]
  • Sour Salty Bitter Sweet

Michigan Blogs

  • Big House Blog
  • Burgeoning Wolverine Star
  • Genuinely Sarcastic
  • Go Blue Michigan Wolverine
  • Holdin' The Rope
  • MGoFootball
  • MVictors
  • Maize 'n' Blue Nation
  • Maize 'n' Brew
  • Maize And Go Blue
  • Michigan Hockey Net
  • The Blog That Yost Built
  • The Hoover Street Rag
  • The M Block
  • The M Zone
  • The Wolverine Blog
  • Touch The Banner
  • UMGoBlog
  • UMHoops
  • UMTailgate
  • Wolverine Liberation Army

M On The Net

  • mgovideo
  • MGoBlue.com
  • Mike DeSimone
  • Recruiting Planet
  • The Wolverine
  • Go Blue Wolverine
  • Winged Helmet
  • UMGoBlue.com
  • MaizeRage.org
  • Puckhead
  • The M Den
  • True Blue Fan Forum

Big Ten Blogs

  • Illinois
    • A Lion Eye
    • Hail To The Orange
    • Illinois Baseball Report
    • Illinois Loyalty
  • Indiana
    • Inside The Hall
    • The Crimson Quarry
  • Iowa
    • Black Heart, Gold Pants
    • Fight For Iowa
  • Michigan State
    • The Only Colors
  • Minnesota
    • GopherHole.com
    • The Daily Gopher
    • I'm In Love With A Fringe Bowl Team
    • TNABACG
  • Nebraska
    • Big Red Network
    • Corn Nation
    • Husker Mike's Blasphemy
    • Husker Gameday
  • Northwestern
    • Sippin' On Purple
    • Lake The Posts
  • Notre Dame
    • The House Rock Built
    • One Foot Down
  • Ohio State
    • Eleven Warriors
    • Buckeye Commentary
    • Men of the Scarlet and Gray
    • Our Honor Defend
    • The Buckeye Nine
  • Penn State
    • Slow States
    • Black Shoe Diaries
    • Happy Valley Hardball
    • Penn State Clips
    • Linebacker U
    • Nittany White Out
  • Purdue
    • Boiled Sports
    • Hammer and Rails
  • Wisconsin
    • Bruce Ciskie

Links of Note

  • Baseball
    • Big Ten Hardball
    • College Baseball Today
    • The Baseball Zealot
    • The College Baseball Blog
  • Basketball
    • Ken Pomeroy
    • Basketball Prospectus
    • Midmajority
  • College Hockey
    • Chris Heisenberg
    • College Hockey Stats
    • Inside College Hockey
    • Michigan College Hockey
    • Hockey's Future
    • Sioux Sports
    • USCHO
    • Western College Hockey
    • CCHA
      • LSSU Hockey
      • Bronco Hockey Blog
  • Football
    • Smart Football
    • Every Day Should Be Saturday
    • Doctor Saturday
    • CFB Stats
    • Harold Stassen
    • NCAA D-I Stats Page
    • The Wizard Of Odds
  • General
    • Sports Central
  • Local Interest
    • The Ann Arbor Chronicle
    • Arborwiki
    • Arbor Update
    • Teeter Talk
    • Vacuum
  • Teams Of The D
    • Lions
      • Pride of Detroit
      • Fire Millen
    • Pistons
      • Detroit Bad Boys
      • Need4Sheed
    • Tigers
      • Roar Of The Tigers
      • The Detroit Tigers Weblog
      • The Daily Fungo
    • Red Wings
      • On The Wings
      • Behind The Jersey
      • Winging It In Motown
    • Michigan Sports Forum

Archive

  • May 2013 (42)
  • April 2013 (94)
  • March 2013 (104)
  • February 2013 (81)
  • January 2013 (93)
  • December 2012 (74)
  • November 2012 (142)
  • October 2012 (143)
  • September 2012 (107)
  • August 2012 (103)
  •  
  • 1 of 11
  • ››

Get Yer Tickets

Football Display Case

NFL Watches

Follow your favorite team with localtv-satellite.com: Click Here.

Site Search

Diaries

  • New
  • Popular
  • Hot
  • More Milford Men Than Michigan Men: Comparing the 11-12 and 12-13 Hockey Teams
    MGoBlueline - 21 hours ago
  • Future Non-Conference Opponent Recruiting Watch
    EGD - 3 days ago
  • Way Too Late B1G Men's Basketball Scheduling Idea
    BeileinBuddy - 4 days ago
  • The Blockhams in "HOCKEY HANGOVER"
    Six Zero - 1 week ago
  • MGoAcceptance: Another MGoAnecdote
    LSAClassOf2000 - 1 week ago
  •  
  • 1 of 4
  • ››
more
  • Big Ten Recruiting Rankings 5-15-13
    Ace - 1,388 views
  • Future Non-Conference Opponent Recruiting Watch
    EGD - 569 views
  • Way Too Late B1G Men's Basketball Scheduling Idea
    BeileinBuddy - 386 views
  • More Milford Men Than Michigan Men: Comparing the 11-12 and 12-13 Hockey Teams
    MGoBlueline - 194 views
  • Big Ten Recruiting Rankings 5-15-13
    Ace - 51 comments
  • Future Non-Conference Opponent Recruiting Watch
    EGD - 15 comments
  • The Blockhams in "HOCKEY HANGOVER"
    Six Zero - 13 comments
  • More Milford Men Than Michigan Men: Comparing the 11-12 and 12-13 Hockey Teams
    MGoBlueline - 2 comments
  • Way Too Late B1G Men's Basketball Scheduling Idea
    BeileinBuddy - 2 comments

MGoBoard

  • New
  • Recent
  • Hot
  • OT: RIP Dick Trickle and Ken Venturi
    14 replies
  • Siva Admits Trey Burke's Title Game Block Was Clean
    61 replies
  • Softball Open Thread 7pm vs Valpo ESPN3
    35 replies
  • OT Staee shutout by Penn St 9-0 in baseball
    21 replies
  • Alex Bars to Notre Dame
    96 replies
  • OT - The Friday Night Alcoholics - Early Edition Thread
    59 replies
  • Trey Burke current on ESPN2 at NBA Combine
    28 replies
  • OT: End of Drew and Mike on 101WRIF
    39 replies
  • Michigan has #1 recruiting class on ESPN now.
    73 replies
  • The Talented Shallmans
    41 replies
  • OT: Advice on moving to Ann Arbor
    72 replies
  • Speight to compete in Oakland Elite 11 camp
    47 replies
  • Nice Article on Michigan Baseball Signee Hector Gutierrez
    7 replies
  • 2013 Mott Takeover Open Thread
    60 replies
  • OT: Notre Dame 2013, pretty much BCS or bust
    44 replies
  • ‹‹
  • 2 of 7
  • ››
  • B1G Network Helmet Bracket
    28 replies
  • OT: Saturday Night Drinking/Open/Tigers Thread
    26 replies
  • OT: Caption Contest - Preakness Fan
    6 replies
  • OT: ESPN Mag/Insider special $5/Year
    23 replies
  • Michigan Women's Tennis Swept by UCLA
    4 replies
  • Steve Everitt rips Notre Dame!
    41 replies
  • OT: Ron English & Mike Hart to jump out of a plane for new EMU bathrooms
    36 replies
  • BBall year in review Deleted...
    10 replies
  • OT: Red Wings @ Hawks Game 2 Open Thread
    113 replies
  • OT- happy World Whisk(e)y day everyone!
    38 replies
  • Michigan Baseball vs Nebraska on BTN Open Thread
    41 replies
  • OT: Preakness Stakes
    26 replies
  • Marvin Robinson to FSU
    50 replies
  • M Softball hosting Cal in Regional - 5/18
    21 replies
  • Siva Admits Trey Burke's Title Game Block Was Clean
    61 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 7
  • ››
  • OT: Red Wings @ Ducks Game 7 Open Thread
    229 replies
  • OT: Red Wings vs. Blackhawks Open Thread
    201 replies
  • Shane Morris to wear the famed #7 jersey, J.J. McGrath #46
    175 replies
  • Jabrill Peppers Announcement Date Set
    169 replies
  • Brady Hoke Calls Notre Dame A Chicken
    163 replies
  • UM 2014 Conf schedule football
    123 replies
  • Brandon on Uniformzzz
    119 replies
  • OT: Red Wings @ Hawks Game 2 Open Thread
    113 replies
  • Notre Dame's Nix fires back at Coach Hoke
    110 replies
  • Alex Bars to Notre Dame
    96 replies
  • GoBlueWolverine's Dre Barthwell: Marvin Robinson to leave Michigan
    96 replies
  • Sparty losing recruits to the rap game
    95 replies
  • PSU about to get blasted again by SI investigative report
    88 replies
  • This week in schadenfreude - Chicago Bulls
    84 replies
  • Michigan has #1 recruiting class on ESPN now.
    73 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 7
  • ››

mgo.licio.us

  • Big Ten football procrastinates on parity-based scheduling, and nothing ever changes

    the just released schedules were a flat-out statement that the B10 doesn't believe SOS will matter in playoff selection

    1 comments
  • Michigan's Glenn Robinson III, Mitch McGary ranked inside top 20 on ESPN's 2014 draft board

    but I thought that draft was supposed to be incredibly loaded?

    1 comments
  • Tim Hardaway Jr. turning heads, viewed as a first-rounder by some teams, analyst says

    If you're gonna go please be in the first round.

    0 comments
  • Michigan-Ohio State once, Indiana-Purdue once? The Big Ten has to protect its hoops rivalries

    another delightful side effect of a 14 team conference

    0 comments
  • Beilein on transfers: All should have to sit a year, regardless of situation

    I disagree.

    0 comments
  • Julie Hermann takes over as Rutgers AD, won't try to spend like Michigan

    GOOD PLAN

    1 comments
  • Jay Harris says no to Michigan State, decides to become a rapper

    hahahahaha

    0 comments
  • The Difference Between A Good Fan And A Bad Fan

    thoughtful piece from Jacobi on middle finger lady

    3 comments
  • Michigan's rising recruiting profile exciting John Beilein, who remains true to his scouting form

    Their high school coaches and AAU coaches have probably a better appreciation of Michigan than maybe they had before," Beilein said. "It's a tough balance right now. Tim Hardaway and Trey Burke weren't really high-profile players, nor was Darius Morris, and all were high-profile players. "We're still looking at 'who is the best fit.' "

    0 comments
  • Charles Barkley discusses Michael Jordan, Dream Team and more - NBA - Jack McCallum - SI.com

    "When I call somebody a midget, clearly I'm not trying to insult f---ing midgets. I'm just using basketball terminology."

    0 comments
  • Why does the NFL make for such bad media?

    robots

    0 comments
  • Pictured: Detroit's Robocop Statue nears completion date

    elsewhere in awesome things kickstarter made happen

    0 comments
  • Spectacular images of the madness that was the first FA Cup final

    And you think you're crowded at Michigan Stadium

    0 comments
  • Bear Vs. Monkey Bicycle Race Ends With Bear Eating Monkey

    IMPORTANT: Ondre Pipkins not involved.

    11 comments
  • Damon Bullock Has the Greatest Vine Account of All Time

    this is amazing

    7 comments

Mailbag!

By Brian — October 16th, 2008 at 4:29 PM — 25 comments

Brian,

Do you think it was more than just slightly coincidental amidst last Saturday's misery that the marching band chose to do an emo halftime show? 

-Jeremy

That's only the tip of the iceberg, man: during the Wisconsin game they did a Ferris Bueller parody where the drum major was absent, then showed up at the last second. Just like the team!

Brian,

Rodriguez has been dealt an impossible hand by a combination of (a) circumstances (untimely graduations and transfers) and (b) transitions (the personnel we had is ill-suited to the offense he wants to run).  He is doing the best he can, and we have been competitive in every game we played this year, except for the ones where we took howitzers and pointed them in the general direction of our own nutsack.

My bigger concern is not Rodriguez and it isn't how we are doing this year.  My bigger concern is the high level of risk associated with the spread offense.  It absolutely cannot come as a surprise that Threet was injured -- he has been getting hit hard on a regular basis.  This is what happens when the quarterback is an important yard gaining aspect of one's offense.  I am concerned that in the bright future, we are going to have a really good team well-suited to running the spread -- and our entire season will hang on whether the quarterback can avoid injury.  And when he won't, we'll spend lots of times saying "If only [fill in name] hadn't gotten injured in the fourth [fifth, seventh, first] game, we could have been really awesome!"

You think back to Oregon with Dennis Dixon.  They were unstoppable.  Then Dixon got hurt and they were nothing.  It is just such a "everything must go right" type of offense.  That's my big concern.

Anyway, just wanted to sound off about the spread in a different way.  Not so much a "where the fuck are we?" kind of way, because as you ably pointed out, that's not very useful.  More in a "does it make sense to go in this direction when we are the type of program who can recruit hosses and play a sweet pro style offense."

Steve

This is often cited as a reason to be leery of the spread: Pat White, Drew Stanton, Dennis Dixon, and many other spread quarterbacks have been blown to smithereens and taken their teams' chances with them. While dropback passers get hurt, too, it's reasonable to suggest that Pat White (197 carries, including sacks, in 2007) is more likely to get hurt than your average Michigan quarterback (57 combined carries in 2007).

I think the dropback guys aren't quite as well off as that disparity suggests, though. Quarterbacks don't have to register a carry to get hit, especially when they're dropping back to pass behind an iffy offensive line. I think it's safe to assume that Michigan quarterbacks got hit as they threw the ball far more often than White did—for one thing, White only threw a quarter of the time. This narrows the gap somewhat. Also, when you're running with the ball you are usually conscious of the people trying to tackle you and rarely take a big hit; quarterbacks getting attacked from the blindside or standing in and throwing often take wicked shots. So it's not a slam dunk the spread guys are at more risk. I think they are, but if it's 10% or 20% you're probably better off with the spread.

To find out we'd have to go to the numbers, classifying quarterbacks as spread or pocket passers and surveying the recent history of college football to determine how much time the spread guys missed versus the pocket guys. Without anything resembling an injury database you're reduced to inferring which guys got benched (good or bad, you can rest a guy at halftime of the 'Cuse game and that looks like he's injured) or had disciplinary issues versus which got knocked the F out. That's a ton of noise when you're looking for an effect that's pretty noisy itself; I don't think any sort of study is feasible.

So then you're measuring whatever bonus effectiveness you get from running your quarterback—and the evidence suggests this is substantial—against the murky increased chance of injury to you quarterback.

All I can tell you on this is: I don't know. This is a tootsie-roll-pop-level mystery, and will probably always be so.

I have a rhetorical question for you. Is it just me or does McGuffie run straight up? I know the kid has talent but I will guarantee if he leads with his pads more he'll stop going down on first contact. This is a pet peeve of mine similar to your coping issues with clock management. I don't think anyone can use the argument he's to small right now to run thru defenders. Mike Hart wasn't always big and Jacquizz Rodgers seems pretty successful. At this point I'm hoping it's something Jackson is working with McGuffie on this since I  believe it will expedite his success as one of the great Michigan running backs. Go Blue!

Scott.

Yeah, McGuffie's major flaw to date has been a near-total inability to make yards once a guy has him wrapped up. He's the exact opposite of Mike Hart. I'm not sure if he's ever going to get better at it, either. He's a slasher, which fits very poorly with our current inability to block defensive linemen consistently, and is probably 20-30 pounds lighter than Hart. I think it's something we're going to have to live with.

  • Login or register to post comments

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
October 16th, 2008 at 4:53 PM | McGuffie (Score:1)
caup
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 1915

I seem to recall McGuffie breaking numerous tackles against ND (okay, grain of salt) to the point where the announcers were actually lauding him as a guy who's hard to take down.  Against WI, his game-winning TD run was a tough rumble where he had to help move the pile and break arm tackles.

Also, he's 18. He's GOING to gain at least 15 pounds of muscle over the next couple of years. IMO, this is a non-issue.

Go Blue

  • Login or register to post comments
October 17th, 2008 at 9:41 AM | I agree caup (Score:1)
k bizzle
k bizzle's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 30

McGuffie is still a freshmen and he has plenty of time to improve and get better with BARWIS. Just give the kid another year like everyone is giving RR to see if he can get better at it.

 Also I think this may have to do with McGuffie protecting the ball more than the other RBs. Everyone is getting on anybody who puts the ball on the ground and McGuffie hasn't been. So maybe he is trying to protect the ball more than make a move or two and get a bad hit on him. It seems the coaches have been getting on everyone about it and he is one of the few listening to them.

So for the people that want to talk about him not breaking tackles I will point to his lack of fumbles. Maybe I'm wrong here in liking a guy who protects the ball more than breaking a tackle or two and giving the ball right back?

GO BLUE!

  • Login or register to post comments
October 17th, 2008 at 12:38 PM | This is a great point on (Score:1)
shottysafa
Joined: 09/02/2008
MGoPoints: 0

This is a great point on McGuffie.  The stiff arm isn't in his repertoire, either, and his protection of the ball is extremely good for an RB in general, let alone a freshman.

  • Login or register to post comments
October 17th, 2008 at 10:01 AM | yeah (Score:1)
baorao
baorao's picture
Joined: 08/08/2008
MGoPoints: 501

when first contact happens 4 yards behind the line of scrimmage I'd expect him to lose that battle more than he wins.

  • Login or register to post comments
October 16th, 2008 at 4:55 PM | re: risking the qb (Score:1)
matty blue
matty blue's picture
Joined: 08/01/2008
MGoPoints: 377

i would also note - i can think of two times this year that threet got absolutely clocked while running the ball...in both cases, he probably could have slid instead of going for the extra yard or two.

my feeling, which may or may not be true, is that a more instinctive runner gets hit less often, and less hard, than someone like threet, who is serviceable but not as "natural."

i'd also note, and it relates to the mcguffie letter - terrelle (sp?) pryor runs about as straight up as anyone i've ever seen.  that guy is going to get creamed at some point.  sorta like drew stanton did by woodley.  which probably contradicts my first point.  never mind.

  • Login or register to post comments
October 16th, 2008 at 6:37 PM | That is the point I was going (Score:1)
PattyMax64
PattyMax64's picture
Joined: 07/21/2008
MGoPoints: 0

That is the point I was going to make.  If you look at a RB, he knows how to take a hit and how to fall.  I think the same goes for running QBs, they know how to take a hit and how to fall because they do it more often.  The only other thing I can think of, is if the QB runs like Tebow.  If he embraces contact for an extra yard instead of sliding, he will be more prone to injuries, be they concussions or upper body injuries.  I think if our QB can slide or run OOB when necessary, we will have a much healthier QB.

  • Login or register to post comments
October 16th, 2008 at 5:07 PM | On the spread QBs and danger to injury (Score:0)
Anonymous Coward

The key to any offense it to have 2 QBs (preferably three) that you can win with. But two is a must, in case of injury.  It does not matter if you have a drop back thrower or an option-style QB.  Michigan's record under option style QB's (i.e. taking punishing hits) is actually fairly good. Under Rick Leach Michigan was 48-8-2 9 (4 years). Under Steve Smith 26-10 (3 years), as some examples.  Leach and Smith probably took the most hits.  Both sustained mild injuries over their career (Leach with a lingering hamstring) and Smith was knocked out cold of the '83 Rose Bowl with a shoulder injury.

But UM's experience with drop back passers is tough too: John Wangler (injured knees in '79 Gator Bowl) on a rollout pass play, Jim Harbaugh (broken arm) vs. MSU, and other drop back QBs like Collins, Brady and Henson (more dual-threat) and Henne have sustained injuries as well mainly dropping back to throw.

Coaches assume injuries will take place. That's why depth and preparation are so important. 

It's not enough anymore to have Chad Henne as first string and Jeff Kastl as your backup.   You need 2 QBs that can go anytime - just to survive a football season.

The Oregon Dennis Dixon example is a good one, but did you notice what Belotti and Kelly have done this year. They have like 4 Duck QBs ready to go and run the spread (and they're pretty good).   UCLA or Washington State right now are both in deep doo doo, just like Michigan.  And neither runs the spread offense.

  • Login or register to post comments
October 16th, 2008 at 5:10 PM | tackling? (Score:0)
Anonymous Coward

Spread QBs getting tackled?  what happened to option QBs during the 50's thru today?  didn't Rick Leach get tackled (a lot)?

i don't see how being a running QB in an option is more dangerous than being one in the zone spread is?  and i don't recall anyone ever suggesting that teams should scrap the option (certainly not w/in ear shot of Bud Wilkinson or Wooody Hayes) because their QB got tackled too often.

  • Login or register to post comments
October 16th, 2008 at 5:14 PM | Well for starters... (Score:0)
Anonymous Coward

We can add two PSU QBs to the "knocked the F out" list.

  • Login or register to post comments
October 16th, 2008 at 5:25 PM | Regarding QB durability (Score:1)
Engin77
Joined: 07/02/2008
MGoPoints: 2095

Seems like it has alot to do with deceptiveness and elusiveness;
Threet has a little of the first, but not so much of the latter.

OL play has a lot to do with QB health; Henne missed alot of time last year, and Lloyd wasn't running the spread.

Taking it one week at a time

  • Login or register to post comments
October 16th, 2008 at 5:41 PM | There is absolutely no metric (Score:1)
Huss
Huss's picture
Joined: 07/08/2008
MGoPoints: 1769

that suggests spread QBs are hurt more than dropback QBs.  None.  People just know about Dennis Dixon and Pat White, pay little attention to every other QB in the nation - and boom, a theory is conjured.  SPREAD QBS GET INJURED INEVITABLY, DUH!

 And not to be Michigan Man-ish, but I'm pretty sure the backup QBs he'll begin to recruit at UM will be a helluvalot better than WVUs or Oregon's.  Forcier/Beaver next year, an instater the year after, and on and on.

I said - not good enough.

  • Login or register to post comments
October 16th, 2008 at 5:43 PM | Injury Reports (Score:1)
Enjoy Life
Enjoy Life's picture
Joined: 07/02/2008
MGoPoints: 2477

I found this site:

http://www.covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/ncf/injury/i...

It is way depressing - lists injuries for all college football teams. There are a lot of QBs on the list.

Cincinatti Bearcats -- 3 QBs out, Washington Huskies - 2 QBs out.

Not sure if this could be compiled to something meaningful.

I tend to agree with Brian -- I still don't know why Ben Roethlisberger is still alive after all the hits he has taken with the Steelers this year. He is playing with a bad shoulder.

Life should not be a journey to the grave to arrive safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What A Ride!" HST

  • Login or register to post comments
October 16th, 2008 at 6:22 PM | Isn't Washington State down (Score:1)
ShockFX
ShockFX's picture
Joined: 07/16/2008
MGoPoints: 3958

Isn't Washington State down to a walk-on QB they picked up last week?  Or something like that?

  • Login or register to post comments
October 16th, 2008 at 6:41 PM | I believe they are down to a (Score:1)
PattyMax64
PattyMax64's picture
Joined: 07/21/2008
MGoPoints: 0

I believe they are down to a walk-on, with the kid who got a spot in a campus-wide tryout as the second string.  Pretty scary stuff.  That would be like us starting Coner, with a frat boy who impressed in the mud bowl as the backup.

  • Login or register to post comments
October 16th, 2008 at 6:53 PM | I don't know man, I remember (Score:1)
WolvinLA
WolvinLA's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 869

I don't know man, I remember watching Russ Garber from AEPi in the Mud Bowl, and he was pretty sick.  Might be as good as Sheridan.

  • Login or register to post comments
October 16th, 2008 at 8:12 PM | McGuffie: Not as resistant as Mike Hart or as fast as Usain Bolt (Score:0)
Anonymous Coward

Neither is a fair comparison.

  • Login or register to post comments
October 16th, 2008 at 8:39 PM | Injuries (Score:1)
tom c
tom c's picture
Joined: 08/19/2008
MGoPoints: 62

I wonder if the type of injuries recieved is different? More knees for the spread guys and more shoulders for the drop back guys.

  • Login or register to post comments
October 16th, 2008 at 11:09 PM | Maybe it's a good sign (Score:1)
Spaceman Spiff
Spaceman Spiff's picture
Joined: 10/08/2008
MGoPoints: 1

that the band is playing a train-themed show next week.  Building steam?

  • Login or register to post comments
October 17th, 2008 at 11:49 AM | or maybe... (Score:0)
Anonymous Coward

we are in for a train wreck?  Hope not.  I still believe we are heading in the right direction. Patience is needed.

  • Login or register to post comments
October 17th, 2008 at 10:18 AM | Fatigue (Score:1)
Enjoy Life
Enjoy Life's picture
Joined: 07/02/2008
MGoPoints: 2477

The other concern for running QBs is they get hit more often and towards the end of the game this may affect passing accuracy (yea BARWIS!).

Life should not be a journey to the grave to arrive safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What A Ride!" HST

  • Login or register to post comments
October 17th, 2008 at 11:24 AM | I wonder if Joe the Plumber (Score:1)
mth822
Joined: 07/03/2008
MGoPoints: 23

I wonder if Joe the Plumber has a game prediction for this Saturday?

  • Login or register to post comments
October 17th, 2008 at 11:53 AM | strange, my google reader has (Score:1)
formerlyanonymous
formerlyanonymous's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 13958

strange, my google reader has the defense UFR up on the big10 bloggers feed.  however, its not on the site?

MGoPosts|MGoDiaries|Twitter|Email

  • Login or register to post comments
October 17th, 2008 at 12:03 PM | Running QBs (Score:1)
papabear16
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 1122

I was a wishbone QB in HS, so I took a lot of hits running the ball, particularly from DEs right after a pitch or even carrying out a fake.  Mostly, because I knew how to run and take a hit, I didn't have any more real injury problems than any of our RBs.

 What I did notice, though, was that my effectiveness could be limited by those hits when a RBs wouldn't have, because they don't care if they get a deep tricep bruise, but that could affect my throwing motion a bit.

In the end, the reason the White and Dixon injuries have been so devastating is because they were Heisman-caliber players on teams without good replacements.  If we ahve good RBs or backup QBs so the drop-off isn't as great, we'll be fine.

  • Login or register to post comments
October 18th, 2008 at 10:30 AM | The writer was right (Score:1)
wolverine1987
wolverine1987's picture
Joined: 07/07/2008
MGoPoints: 2928

about the risk for the spread QB going down, and the potential problems for the team, and here's why--it's not just about having a greater risk of injury spread vs. pro-style, the key IMO is this: when the top guy in a spread system goes down, for whatever reason the backups seem less capable of holding the system together than backups in pro style systems.  I don't know why, but for some reason when the White's and Dixon's of the world go down there goes the offense.  But in pro systems the backup often seems far more able to hold it together, perhaps because the required skill sets (drop back, read, throw) are less specialized than in the spread?

"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite." 

  • Login or register to post comments
October 18th, 2008 at 11:14 AM | more mcguffie (Score:0)
Anonymous Coward

it seems to me most michigan fans just refuse to see how good mcguffie is because they just cant get past the fact that he is white. The call for Brandon Minor is just retarded. sam is faster, quicker, better ball security, just a bit less powerfull. I think fans have been bombarded with so much of the MYTH of black athletic supremacy that it will take a few more mcguffie's, gerhart's (stanford) and hawkins (vanderbuilt) to actually convince fans that there are quite a few white athletes who have more then enough athletic ability to compete at this lever against thier black counterparts...just my 2 cents

  • Login or register to post comments
Powered by Pressflow, an open source content management system
Theme provided by Roopletheme; sidebars adapted from Chris Murphy.