Looking Internally In The Aftermath Of MSU Comment Count

Brian

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In the wake of... all that at Michigan State I thought it might be apropos to survey Michigan's own house, looking for warning signs. In part this is because I think there is a major one. To me, there are four major components that lead to something as callous as Michigan State's athletic department: a commitment to secrecy, an incestuous power structure, leaders who don't care about anything but the bottom line, and the ability to subvert outside checks on your behavior.

Point by point:

Pattern of DGAF discipline because you only care about the bottom line

Brandon Graham : Glenn Winston :: Winston : EL citizens

Mark Dantonio established a long time ago that he more or less doesn't care if you, football player, do something bad. Delton Williams pulled a gun in a road rage incident and served jail time. He was immediately reinstated. MacGarrett Kings was arrested for "super drunk" DUI and got a zero game suspension. MacGarrett Kings was arrested for kicking a parking enforcement truck and resisting arrest, still got a zero game suspension. Glenn Winston broke a hockey player's jaw with a sucker punch, served six months in jail, and was immediately reinstated. LJ Scott was arrested seven times for driving on a suspended license without reaction. Auston Robertson was admitted as a recruit after multiple high school assaults, one sexual, and proceeded to commit a sexual assault while in college. He didn't so much leave the team as go on the lam.  Chris L Rucker was jailed for eight days during the 2010 season after a DUI violated his probation and played the weekend after his release.

And, of course, there was that probation. Rucker was on probation because even the Ingham County prosecutor's office—about which more in a second—couldn't make surveillance tape from a dorm brawl go away. That brawl was spearheaded by one Glenn Winston:

The fight took place during a potluck function sponsored by the Iota Phi Theta fraternity, hours after Michigan State's team banquet. Winston reportedly had been in an altercation the previous night at a party thrown by the same fraternity at an East Lansing nightspot. An unnamed Michigan State player was charged with public urination and possession of alcohol by a minor outside the Small Planet nightclub.

Dell's father told the Detroit Free Press that Winston informed his teammates about the altercation, and they agreed to follow him to the potluck the next night.

Winston was finally removed from the team, as well as one other of the twenty Michigan State players who decided it would be a good idea to rumble with the Jets.

It was only last year that the 16 sexual assaults Dantonio has overseen during his time at Michigan State were public enough, and the outside heat turned up enough, that Donnie Corley, Josh King, and Demetric Vance were probed, arrested, and booted. Even there Dantonio's hands were tied by the fact that their prison sentences are likely to extend past their eligibility.

Tom Izzo, meanwhile, kept Keith Appling, a man local police wanted to charge for rape, on the team for four years. He was not even suspended.

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i know what this press conference isn't about [Marc-Gregor Campredon]

So. There's that. Michigan does not show the same proclivities, mostly. We have no idea what John Beilein's discipline policy is like because—except for Mitch McGary testing positive for pot at the NCAA tournament—literally none of his players have ever been in trouble. Laval Lucas-Perry was dismissed for violating team rules but there appears to be no legal reason.

Under Harbaugh, the only thing approximating lax discipline has been Grant Perry's three-game suspension in the aftermath of an incident outside an East Lansing bar. That resulted in probation and a diversionary plea deal; it cost Perry a quarter of a season. Other incidents under Harbaugh have been met with summary execution. C'sonte York, Logan Tuley-Tillman, and Nate Johnson were all immediately booted for incidents that would have been met with zero game suspensions from Dantonio.

I mean this literally. York sucker punched a guy, which is the same offense Winston committed minus the broken jaw and six months in jail. Tuley-Tillman was convicted of taping consensual sex and sending it from her phone to his; his conviction was also diverted. Nate Johnson was sentenced to four days in jail and probation for a domestic violence incident. That number of days in jail doesn't even warrant a weekend suspension at MSU.

Pre-Harbaugh Michigan did have Brendan Gibbons. Gibbons was not charged as a freshman when his incident occurred, but he should have been booted anyway. "Woman you have sex with does rape kit immediately afterwards" isn't a convictable offense in the court of law but should be disqualifying for a Michigan athlete.

More disturbing is Taylor Lewan's behavior in the aftermath. For the record, Lewan denies that he said this:

The alleged victim also accused Lewan, a longtime teammate of Gibbons with the Wolverines, of then threatening her if she pursued charges -- "I'm going to rape her because, [Gibbons] didn't."

I don't believe him. I don't believe him because there is a UM police report on the incident with a specific and believable account of this interaction. Maybe the exact phrasing involved is incorrect but the overall thrust of the interaction is clear: an attempt to intimidate this woman. That should have gotten him suspended, but it's clear from the way the Gibbons situation played out that Brady Hoke was a neanderthal in this department.

That had to change. External indicators seem to indicate that it has. For what it's worth, the whisper network had outed Gibbons just as thoroughly as it had outed Keith Appling and Adriean Payne before ESPN finally put their names and acts into print, and I haven't heard anything similar since.

Subversion of local prosecutor's office

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The East Lansing police department recommended prosecution for Keith Appling and Adriean Payne after Payne essentially confessed in a police interview. No charges were brought for an astounding quid pro quo:

Schaner says campus police investigators told her that, because of Payne's police interview, they had a solid case to pursue. Once the case was forwarded from police to Ingham County prosecutors, Schaner was interviewed by an assistant prosecutor, Debra Rousseau Martinez. Schaner says Martinez told her she did not seem strong enough to stand up to questioning that would come as a result of making allegations against MSU basketball players.

No charges were filed in the case. The assistant prosecutor, Martinez, now works for Michigan State's Title IX office. She declined to comment on Schaner's case.

Meanwhile the Ingham County DA for the large majority of the timeframe covered here was Stuart Dunnings III, who eventually went to jail for a bundle of charges including soliciting prostitutes and, more relevant for this post, subverting the justice system repeatedly when favored people were caught up in it. Just a couple of the litany of offenses:

In August 2012, charges were inexplicably dropped in a drug paraphernalia case. When an investigator interviewed the person who dropped the charges — likely an assistant prosecutor, whose identity was redacted from the report — the person told the detective she doesn’t know why she dismissed the case and “she would’ve documented if someone had contacted her requesting she dismiss the charges.”

In November 2013, a woman arrested on a domestic violence charge claimed to know Dunnings personally and said she should be released immediately, a jail staffer told investigators. Dunnings called the jail and said he wanted the woman released into his custody. Though “the staff thought it strange that the prosecutor was getting personally involved in this case,” investigators found at least eight women had been released from the jail in 2015 “at the request of the prosecutor or the prosecutor’s office.” The Sheriff’s Office oversees the jail.

If Dunnings was willing to spring prostitutes from jail because he knew them, a call from Izzo or Dantonio only has one outcome. The woman assaulted by Travis Walton, who picked up a bizarre littering charge instead of the original assault charge, states the obvious:

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If Grant Perry played for MSU he would have gotten a littering charge, because it's hard to tell whether the Ingham County prosectuor's office is more incompetent or corrupt. This is Dunnings's replacement:

“You put all of these together after what we now know and they look like flags, but at the time … (it) was inappropriate, but did it rise to the level of knowledge of a criminal activity? No,” said Whitmer, who was appointed to serve the last six months of Dunnings’ term. She noted in a Friday interview that she was not privy to the investigation during her review of the prosecutor’s office.

This is a dude in jail.

Wriggelsworth said Friday that it wasn’t until this investigation that his office had anything solid — or even wrote an official report.

But the prosecutor’s activities were so widely known, in fact, that an inmate laughed when he saw Dunnings being led down a hall in the county jail in cuffs in March.

“Everyone knows” Dunnings had been involved with prostitutes “for years,” the inmate said, according to the records. “Damn, the man finally got caught up.”

Either the dude in jail is the smartest guy in the building or the cover your ass attitude didn't end with Dunnings.

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This does not appear to be the case in Ann Arbor. Even if Nate Johnson and Logan Tuley-Tillman aren't the best examples because both had been booted from the team as soon as their offenses had become known, they were still charged appropriately. Going a bit further back in time, Will Campbell was charged with a felony for this extremely unwise hijink:

Michigan senior defensive tackle Will Campbell is facing one felony and one misdemeanor charge of malicious destruction of property stemming from an April 7 incident, according to court records. ...

According to Ann Arbor police, Campbell was arrested after attempting to slide across the hood of a vehicle at 2 a.m. on April 7 in the 600 block of Church Street. An officer in the area could hear the sheet metal on the hood of the car buckle under Campbell’s weight — he’s listed at 322 pounds — and arrested the senior, police stated.

Campbell was intoxicated, according to police.

He pled down to a misdemeanor and paid restitution, as is appropriate for a first-time offender. He was certainly not undercharged initially. Meanwhile the main accusation leveled at Michigan's Title IX department recently is that they railroaded Drew Sterrett, a non-athlete whose preposterous expulsion was rightfully overturned in court. It is unlikely to be a haven for disgraceful ex-prosecutors who shuffled rape charges under the table in order to do Joel Ferguson a solid.

The nature of these kinds of issues is that they get shuffled under the carpet for years until someone ferrets them out, so that's not definitive, and unfortunately...

Terrible FOIA Office

ESPN had to sue MSU multiple times to get unredacted versions of the documents they requested, and was infamously sued by MSU because of this conundrum:

MSU argues in a court filing that it has been put in an "impossible position" because Ingham County Prosecutor Carol Siemon's office asked the university to withhold the records and ESPN asked for them to be released.

That's not at all how FOIA works, but ESPN had to take that case all the way to the state supreme court before they could proceed. MSU's FOIA office was in full thrall to their university-wide omerta policy. Any FOIA office that acts similarly should put its university under similar suspicion.

Requesting Jim Harbaugh's very boring expense reports took Deadspin "months of back and forth," and this Daily article still remains the gold standard for FOIA office comparisons. Michigan's office is WORSE THAN MSU's, which is the second worst in all the land:

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This is probably something that goes back to a state law that needs to be changed, but Michigan taking fuller advantage of it than the sexual assault enablers in East Lansing is unacceptable.

As someone with some experience with the FOIA office I can tell you that Michigan had a policy under Dave Brandon (and may still have it under Warde Manuel) where athletic department emails were purposefully and systematically deleted after a certain period of time to remove them from FOIA. This meant the infamous "find a new team" email returned no responses when people suspicious it was a fake asked for it. I meant that whenever I tried to get all emails from Dave Brandon over a month long period there were no matching results.

The FOIA office also always, always, always replies that they will not be able to get to your request in the five business days mandated by state law and will use the ten day extension, whereupon they use the full three weeks before responding.

This is a statewide problem and should be rectified by:

  • Making FOIA requests free short of purposefully vexing ones.
  • Making "deleted" emails subject to FOIA; there is absolutely no excuse for Michigan's behavior in this regard.
  • Establishing certain things as outside the bounds of FERPA, like names on police reports.

Michigan, meanwhile, should take these steps independently. Because right now their FOIA office looks a lot like one set up to shield sexual assault.

Incestuous power structure

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Lou Anna Simon had never worked anywhere other than Michigan State. The Michigan State board of trustees is a collection of blatantly unqualified mandarins that in other circumstances would qualify as hilarious. It contains:

  • An 83-year old former football coach whose tenure ended when years of steroid abuse in his program came to light. George Perles denied any knowledge of such a thing.
  • Joel Ferguson, whose own words are sufficiently damning. If you need more, racketeering charges and straight up admitting that he's buying off the mayor of East Lansing.
  • Mitch Lyons, former MSU football player, who publicly outed Auston Robertson's accuser Robertson as the Corley-Vance-King whistleblower and was recently charged with assault. Lyons at least was the first to flip on Simon.
  • Brian Breslin, who is the son of the guy their basketball arena is named after.
  • Brian Mosallam, another former MSU football player. Mosallam at least seems to realize they screwed up massively.

Miraculously, the other three people are not obviously beholden to the MSU athletic department—their actions only imply it. Their unanimous appointment of John Engler to replace Simon...

...is a ridiculous, we-learned-nothing slap in the face.

Michigan had one notable misstep here that you undoubtedly remember: appointing Dave Brandon athletic director despite his extreme narcissism and total lack of experience in athletic department administration. Outside of that Michigan looks outside itself for top end hires. Mark Schlissel came from Brown, Mary Sue Coleman from Iowa, Lee Bollinger from Dartmouth (though he was faculty at M for a long time prior). The most recent president to move up the ranks from inside the university was James Duderstadt in 1988. Critically, no Michigan alum has been president at the university since 1951. An Ohio State grad has been president more recently than that.

Amongst the board of regents many care about Michigan athletics but there's only one person clearly indebted to it: Ron Weiser, who was endorsed by "Sarah" Harbaugh prior to the most recent board of regents election. There are no former football players or coaches.

Unfortunately, Michigan does display some signs of dysfunction at high levels. "Supplemental" pay has been rising dramatically in recent years, in an apparent effort—again—to skirt FOIA laws:

As a public university, U-M is required by state law to disclose annual salary reports. In those reports, U-M discloses base salary. Yet faculty say base pay is only part of the story, and that in disclosing full-pay U-M will increase accountability.

A group of about a dozen faculty members published an open letter to regents in April, suggesting that faculty pay has been increasing modestly in the last decade, while administrator pay at the school has increased substantially, both through hikes in base salaries and through supplemental pay.

"It shows this disparity [in pay] is growing," Dario Gaggio, a history professor at U-M who co-authored the letter, said of the supplemental pay data. "The higher up you go in the hierarchy, the faster the compensations grow."

He added: "I think the whole system really is in need of a general review."

The University in general shows little to no resistance to the increasing disparities between rank and file pay and executive pay that plague every industry in the country but are especially grating in a non-profit, public-interest enterprise like a public university. And they go out of their way to disguise that. From such small mendacities greater things can spawn.

Michigan, in general, must become more open. Open about compensation, compliant with the spirit of FOIA, not the mere letter. After all:

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"A sign of high integrity is not [being] worried about being FOIA'd"

Comments

You Only Live Twice

January 31st, 2018 at 11:22 PM ^

Did you read the first link you posted?  Where it says that the protection is increased for the accused?  This in no way would create "wider" review, victims already have to overcome significant obstacles and protecting the accused doesn't help.

Section 1.8

February 1st, 2018 at 7:42 AM ^

No; you mis-read and misinterpreted what I wrote.  Secretary DeVos announced interim standards and a period of wider review of new regulations.  You mistakenly jumped to the conclusion that I was speaking of the actual procedures involved in overseeing individual cases.

And even then, you botched it.  The new directive from the Department of Education allows all schools to continue to employ the post-2011 (lowered) standard of "a preponderance of the evidence" if that is what they choose.  And I said as much.

 

Wolverine 73

January 31st, 2018 at 3:50 PM ^

These are not as easy as you might think. FERPA is a federal law that is vaguely written and has been interpreted by the courts so broadly that schools have used it to shield a wide array of things, perhaps most infamously the names of Ohio State football players who left tickets for football games at will call. Even the original sponsors feel it has been distorted, but efforts to address it a few years back garnered little support. A basic FOIA principle is you only have to produce what you actually have, and do not have to create a document (or recreate one) if it is gone. You are looking at persuading a court to rule that a public body has the obligation to recover deleted emails in response to a FOIA request, which is not unreasonable, but also could be abused by people who request volumes of documents to harass officials they have a dispute with. If you wanted to change the law in the legislature, every city and county in the state would line up to oppose such a change. Making FOIA requests free would also require a legislative fix, and again every municipality in the state would lobby against that. And they would be able to cite horror stories of harassing requests, and argue that it costs employee time to address the requests. The suggestions have merit, but face a steep uphill climb in each case.

Section 1.8

January 31st, 2018 at 5:15 PM ^

For anyone who does not know it, the short version is this; Josh Furman was charged -- vastly overcharged -- by aggessive Washtenaw County prosecutors for a disturbance at the home of his girlfriend, when Josh brushed/pushed past two females and was held back from a male student who supposedly made disparaging/suggestive comments online about a mutual acquaintance.  By all accounts it was a kind of a non-fight.

Josh's attorneys took it to trial, and they did what good lawyers do when they know they've got a really, really good case; they demanded a bench trial.  And after a trial, the district judge took about a New York minute to find him Not Guilty.  (The same District Judge, btw, who found Taylor Lewan guilty in a plea over the bar fight involving drunken OSU fans with a megaphone at the Jug on S. University.)

I always like to cite the Josh Furman case/story whenever ill-informed people speculate that Ann Arbor and Washtenaw County have a hands-off approach to U-M athletes.

We've had our share of DUI's, stolen laptops, bar fights, and even indecent exposure cases involving Michigan athletes.  I cannot think of a sinlge case where our guys were bailed out by lax or athlete-favoring police or prosecutors.

 

Sethgoblue

January 31st, 2018 at 3:56 PM ^

Well done, as usual, Brian. 

I have very little faith that things will get properly investigated/punished/rectified at MSU in part because, as you point out, it's not just the university, but other entities that should be checking the school's power, i.e. local police, local prosecutors, etc, are actually crooked too. Everybody is so focused on MSU that the connected but external corruption outside the university seems to be going unnoticed. 

What really concerns me is that athletic departments and schools around the country, obviously M being the most important to me, are not learning the lessons of history from Baylor, Penn State, MSU and on and on. While there are fewer troubling signs at M, they are there and they don't seem to be getting much attention and scrutiny. Manuel isn't a giant ass like his predecessor, but he does seem content to sit back and let troubling policies and practices continue on their course. He just stays out of the public eye to a staggering degree, which is dangerous in its own way.

The question is, how do we effect meaningful change both at that the athletic deparment and overall University level, like with our terrible FOIA practices? I feel a bit powerless now living out of state but want to add my voice to others in a way that actually gets the attention of the powers that be. Does anyone know of efforts being made to get the university to quit being a FOIA douche, for example, that one could support?

 

Go Blue.

 

 

UM Fan from Sydney

January 31st, 2018 at 3:56 PM ^

YES

Been waiting for something like this from Brian. I'm very much looking forward to reading this tonight.

Erik_in_Dayton

January 31st, 2018 at 4:01 PM ^

Too many people and institutions wait until something terrible has happened to take inventory of themselves.  Doing it beforehand is vital.   Also, posts like this are what make Mgoblog the finest sports website in the land - or at least the best I know of.  

Bluegriz

January 31st, 2018 at 4:22 PM ^

The only thing I disagree with is:

 

  • Making "deleted" emails subject to FOIA; there is absolutely no excuse for Michigan's behavior in this regard.

My take: Obviously if something has been deleted and it's permanently gone ... you cannot FOIA it... because it's gone. So are you implying Michigan should not delete emails at all?  Large corporations have learned from Sony's email leak and are starting to implement email retention strategies that auto-delete all emails.  For example, my employer deletes every email after 30 days.  No exception.  We're a publicly owned company and the auditors are fine with it. I just think information security norms are going that direction.

 

To say there "is absolutely no excuse" for deleting emails is a little overboard. Email is just a communication tool. Just like a hallway conversation or a text or tweet or team meeting. Not all communication can be archived. 

Reader71

January 31st, 2018 at 5:52 PM ^

Publically-held companies are still not state actors and so comparing the two is misguided at best and charlatanism at worst. We expect the government to keep better records than Sony because government controls things like public education, while Sony makes movies and PlayStations. There are two sectors for very good reasons. It’s odd that the people who fight to prevent even the tiniest encroachment of the public onto the private are always trying to suggest that the private methods would or should work in the public arena.

Mitch Cumstein

January 31st, 2018 at 4:23 PM ^

One concern I might have is the amount of ‘incest’ in the Michigan Medical community. Does anyone have more insight on that? It seems like a large % of doctors and admins went all the way through school and training at UM, and have worked nowhere else. This seemed to be a major issue with Nasser checks and balances (internal review by peers that had been trained by him).

CowCat

January 31st, 2018 at 4:38 PM ^

This is one topic on which OSU fans (like me) and UM fans can completely agree.

Every school has its bad apples.

But at MSU the problems these problems have been widespread, well-known and swept under the rug. If OSU was given scholarship limits and a bowl ban for a tattoo scandal, where is the justice for the hordes of women that Nassar molested, or the glaring lack of institutional conduct with all of the player's crimes?

In my opinion the NCAA needs to bring the hammer down hard on MSU. Maybe law enforcement as well. As a society we simply cannot turn a blind eye and tolerate this sort of behavior.

Njia

January 31st, 2018 at 4:39 PM ^

Is that MSU seems completely unaware, or unappreciative, of what is commonly called “optics.” The optics of their choice of Engler, and Schuette’s choice of Forsyth, are about as bad as they can get. Isn’t there anyone in the entirety of Ingham County, at any level, who knows what the fuck they’re doing?

Perkis-Size Me

January 31st, 2018 at 4:44 PM ^

After witnessing the destruction created by schools like Penn State, Baylor and MSU, the scary thing about these types of situations is that they can happen anywhere. All you need is the right ingredients, as Brian laid out. We'd be fools to think that it could never happen here, because it absolutely could. 

I don't know if Izzo or Dantonio will be ousted for their actions (or inaction). My gut says they won't be. But no matter what happens from here on out, both of their legacies are stained. 

roosterbaan

January 31st, 2018 at 5:07 PM ^

Excellent piece. This sort of reporting makes me proud to be a UM alum--we should always be critical of our own institution because we love our institution. This is exactly the kind of piece that East Lansing/Lansing newspapers need to be putting out. A critical examination of their culture is in order, and that needs to happen from within to be most effective. 

ComputerEngineer

January 31st, 2018 at 5:26 PM ^

Will Campbell getting charged with a felony for sliding over the hood of a car is an obscene miscarriage of justice.  The default police response to that should be to make him pay for the damage.  Charging him with anything, especially a felony, should be a last resort used only if he refuses to cooperate.  

bighousechris

January 31st, 2018 at 5:54 PM ^

Dunnings was the DA during much if not all of this. I believe that is a HUGE reason why everything got swept under the carpet. Police requested prosecution for Payne/Appling if I remember correctly but the DA declined. What a shock...the same DA that is now in jail for prostitution/sex trafficking.

JudgeMart

January 31st, 2018 at 6:28 PM ^

Actually, the Assistant Prosecuting Attorney who made the decision to not charge Appling/Payne in that 2010 rape incident is Debra Rousseau Martinez.  She now works in MSU's Title IX Office.  Her husband, Joel Martinez, currently works in the Ingham County Prosecutor's Office as an Assistant Prosecuting Attorney.

 

UMinSF

January 31st, 2018 at 5:59 PM ^

Michigan, and all universities, had better do some serious, unbiased looking in the mirror.

If anything positive is to come out of this mess, maybe these often insular institutions will be shocked into proactively working to better protect and advocate for their students, and make sure their policies and actions are transparent.

Decades (even centuries) of hard-earned reputation and success can be badly damaged pretty quickly. 

Important and thought-provoking article, Brian. Thanks.

 

HenneGivenSunday

January 31st, 2018 at 6:10 PM ^

I’m sure Sparty fans will still feel like you’re not being hard enough on Michigan, but I think you’ve hit it on the head fairly. Michigan is by no means perfect, and you’ve pointed that out. My wife is a college professor at another public in state school, and the growing number and pay of administrators is a huge concern to faculty members. Sad to see that Michigan isn’t immune to that. She used to work at a public university in Ohio, and found that the number of administrators nearly doubled there in 5 years. Very interesting.

Indy Pete - Go Blue

January 31st, 2018 at 6:25 PM ^

But MSU definitely gets an F.  I think being introspective and learning from this is the most important thing for all institutions.  Thanks Brian and well done on objectively discussing some of our weaknesses in administration.  

jbrandimore

January 31st, 2018 at 6:43 PM ^

Is that the MSU community is so insane that they frequently mention Dennings as some type of exculpatory factor, claiming that he had a “hard on” for harassing MSU athletes. The Spartans are in full PSU mode, if not worse.

mooseman

January 31st, 2018 at 7:15 PM ^

a lot of handwringing about due process. I personally believe that the standard of a conviction of guilt is too lenient for college athletics. The legal system is not the measure of what is acceptable for a student athlete.

I believe that a coach is responsible for the caliber of human that he recruits to a college campus. If this individual is a threat to any of the students of the university, he/she needs to be removed. Avoidance of predation for the university community seems to me to be a bare minimum requirement to earn a multimillion dollar contract.

4th phase

January 31st, 2018 at 9:08 PM ^

This is an argument I've been having with a friend who is an MSU alum and a lawyer. He basically argues that without a trial or a guilty plea the coach should not take it upon himself to be judge and jury. He has complete faith in the judicial system and has said that victims should have hounded the police and prosecution to pursue legal action. My point boils down to the coach just knows more about the player and the situation. Who spends more time with an accused athlete, the coach or the prosecutor? These teams are tight knit groups and usually other players and coaches know the facts long before the police do, if the police ever do at all. Saying that no player has done wrong unless a court finds them guilty is just a coach hiding behind the (sometimes corrupt) law. Mgoblog, specifically Bryan Mac, has laid out similar arguments much more eloquently. But I'm an engineer debating a lawyer so what can you do.

taut

January 31st, 2018 at 7:32 PM ^

Good article, though fairly comprehensive I'd still like to see a full accounting of major sport discipline at UM and MSU that includes the incidents brought up in the comments and any others.

Also,  with respect to this portion of the article:

"Michigan had one notable misstep here that you undoubtedly remember: appointing Dave Brandon athletic director despite his extreme narcissism and total lack of experience in athletic department administration. Outside of that Michigan looks outside itself for top end hires."

Tom Goss (AD '97-'00) is an additional example of a poor semi-insider hire -- inexperienced as an AD, and a M grad/athelete. Remember (or maybe you don't, it was a while ago) the "Halo" around Michigan Stadium, installed in 1998, that was meant to bring excitement to the gameday experience. As if the UM gameday experience was somehow lacking something a year after winning the natty.

4th phase

January 31st, 2018 at 9:13 PM ^

This relates to an idea for a diary post I had, had started researching for, but will probably not get around to writing about. But yes accounting exactly all the cases of Michigan athletes either commiting crimes or being accused of crimes. First because we need to learn from any mistakes Michigan has made instead of always just pointing at MSUs ineptitude. And second because we need to inform all the MSU idiots on Twitter (and RMCB even though I've never been) that Grant Perry and Brendon Gibbons aren't serial killers.

Year of Revenge II

February 1st, 2018 at 6:21 AM ^

Very valid point, and great reminder.

My brother worked very closely with Goss during this time period, and I can tell you first hand, he was the most unhappiest with his job that I have ever seen him, even eclipsing his days as a dishwasher at the Holiday Inn 45 years ago.

Goss was a total train wreck from start to finish. As goofy as Brandon was, and, though talented, Brandon clearly has emotional issues that leave him a fatally flawed character, Goss was the bigger mistake, if you can even conceive of such a thing.

Everyone Murders

January 31st, 2018 at 7:43 PM ^

It's a good piece, and always good to try to learn from others' mistakes.  There's one piece missing, though.

Ann Arbor, for decades, has been extremely proactive in sexual assault issues.  And the townfolk (I was one for over a decade as an adult) are not on average the jock-sniffers that you find in other college towns.

And the Washtenaw County Prosecutor's Office is pretty damned good about treating athletes just like any other defendant.  Brian Mackie sets a tone in that office that is professional but reasonable. 

Those two factors make a big difference.  While high profile athletes in E. Lansing are known to get to play by different rules, it's just not the case in Ann Arbor.

Sopwith

January 31st, 2018 at 7:49 PM ^

vis-a-vis dirty recruiting and/or sweeping criminal or close-enough behavior under the rug by big time college sports programs, because I'm just never 100% confident that our own closet is clean. But, that said, I still sling with impunity at MSU and the SEC, because whatever our skeletons, they've got a whole graveyard. Our culture isn't perfect, but it's not that hot mess, either.

One of the best and most necessary columns of the year (adjusting for the fact it's January like an S&P boss).

POINT THE SECOND, UNRELATED TO THIS SUBJECT AREA, FOR TIKI-TORCH BEARING GRAMMAR AND USAGE NAZIS ONLY

"Apropos" is not interchangeable with "appropriate" unless you believe that sufficient incorrect usage by the population at large makes something OK (e.g. "literally"= "figuratively" is allowed and "a bridge too far"= "going too far" even though that's not at all what it means).

From Grammarist (LINK):

Apropos is often misused in place of appropriate. This sense of apropos has nothing to do with the original French phrase or the word’s conventional meaning. In such cases, appropriate is a perfectly good replacement. Still, this use of apropos is common that we might simply have to accept that the word has changed.

Oh no, Grammarist. We shall not go quietly into the night accepting that the word has changed. That's loser talk.

Eschstreetalum

January 31st, 2018 at 7:54 PM ^

People in love with what they want to be (and think they are) rather than with what they should be quickly lose focus on what is important. The results are ugly and long lasting.

leu2500

January 31st, 2018 at 8:37 PM ^

You don’t like Hoke. But that is no excuse to smear him re Gibbons. Gibbons offense took place when Rich Rodriguez was the head coach. Gibbons was only on the team when Hoke took over *because Rodriguez didn’t kick him off the team.* Ditto the Lewan incident. That police report is dated 2009, again while Rodriguez was the head coach. As for “it’s clear Brady Hoke was a Neanderthal in this department,” what was Rodriguez, especially given the accusations that lead to his being fired at Arizona.