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Let's Overreact To: Spring Scrimmage #2

By Brian — April 2nd, 2012 at 10:19 AM — 78 comments
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Via MGoVideo:

The king of tight camera angles was really feeling it this time around, so we don't get a whole lot of detail, but it's April. Events are not thick on the ground.

Play 1: Denard fires a TE out to Brandon Moore, immediate tackle by Kenny Demens and Jake Ryan. Ricardo Miller comes into the frame late: 2TE set from the shotgun, or Miller's splitting his time between TE and WR.

Play 2: What looks like an inside zone from the shotgun breaks big. Ryan is coming around the backside and gets butt-blocked by Lewan, and that's all she wrote. Where is the SDE?

Play 3: Similar but Toussaint hits his gap closer to the frontside between Omameh and Barnum. Black gets handled one-on-one by Barnum and Toussaint jukes a filling safety I can't identify to dance into the endzone. I think that was probably Marvin Robinson since he was not a white guy and Gordon comes into the frame at the end of the play. Bolden and Talbott are also in with what seems like the first unit.

Play 4: Denard zips a deep slant just over the outstretched hand of Brennen Beyer that Jeremy Gallon snags impressively:

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That's Countess to the left. He's concentrating on the interception instead of the tackle and gives up a bunch of YAC as a result.

Play 5: Marvin Robinson clubs a quick TE out for little gain. Second unit there: Ringer and Mike Jones are on the field.

Play 6: More 2-on-2s action as an inside zone to Rawls is well defended on the front side; Rawls cuts back behind Quinton Washington for a big gain. Washington is a three-tech next to NT Ash, so it's not really his fault. Where is the WDE?

Play 7: Denard under center. Iso handoff to Toussaint goes nowhere as Ryan makes a nice play. Campbell beat Barnum and forced Toussaint behind the A-gap where Hopkins was leading into; Morgan thumped the FB at the LOS. Bolden now running with the first team. probably because this is after Demens did this:

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He took the opportunity to claim he'd be out for the season as an April Fools joke before revising that down to a few weeks and then a couple days.

Play 8: Vincent Smith power from under center goes nowhere. Bolden ends up tackling near the LOS. He does not bring his feet, causing someone to cry out "bring your feet!"

Play 9: Gardner launches a deep fly to Gallon; Countess is all over it, knocking it away.

Play 10: Under center power is pretty much stuffed until Ryan can't quite make a tackle on Toussaint as he breaks outside containment. He did a good enough job of stringing him out and slowing him down that Countess and other members can rally and hold it down. Michigan still can't run power from under center.

It is possible that Toussaint had a decent gain if he slammed it up in the hole.

Play 11: Denard sits in the pocket, getting no pressure, then runs around being all fast and stuff.

Play 12: Gardner waggle does not meet pressure on the edge. Gardner lofts a nice touch pass over Frank Clark to walk-on former DE Chris Eddins.

Interlude: Man, is Elliot Mealer's forehead red.

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Also he has a great mountain man beard going on. Some potential here for Mealer to be Mike Hart's Pet Viking down the road.

Play 13: Another under center run should be consumed until Toussaint makes it into a decent gain. Toussaint has to dodge Beyer in the backfield. Campbell is stunting behind this and overruns the play a little bit; he's got help to the frontside and lets Fitz behind him. He gets enough of Toussaint to put him to the ground but not before the play gets six or seven.

Play 14: Denard hangs in the pocket and zings it to Gallon; ball is well behind him and Gallon has to make a moderately difficult catch. I don't think this is that bad of a throw—at the coaches' clinic Borges said he wants his QBs to hold the receiver up when throwing against zone, which this is. He doesn't want the QB to lead the WR into a defender. So this is somewhat intentional.

Talbott still out there with the first team.

Play 15: Another TE out, this one from Gardner to Jordan Paskorz and a bit deeper. Jarrod Wilson appears for the first time.

Play 16: Denard zings a TE in to Moore for a first down. Gordon tackles.

Play 17: Taylor Lewan blocks Ryan. We don't see the ball.

Play 18: Unidentifiable leaping guy (probably Ryan or Beyer) dissuades Denard from throwing the throwback screen. Instead he takes off and is fast and stuff.

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Any takeaways here? It feels like the offensive line depth chart is approaching ink: Barnum has won the center job and Mealer is the guy at left guard. We haven't seen a snap that would suggest otherwise yet. Things can change when the cavalry arrives in fall; for now it looks like the veterans have the edge.

There are a lot of plays featuring tight ends, which is kind of odd since everyone's claiming their tight ends are a major issue and won't feature much during the year. Eddins, Moore, and Paskorz all feature. This may be the Johnny Sears move where you promote the weakest link on the team in an effort to keep spirits buoyed.

Other bits: Bolden passed Mike Jones the minute he showed up. Terrence Talbott could be a viable option at corner and may be pressing for some time. Also he has six arms and an FTL drive. /BOOM FredJackson'd. Campbell isn't getting blown up by Barnum. They've got some edge issues. Big ones, issues where you wonder if they weren't playing with ten guys on the field.

Denard is fast. Their under center running game is still poor. Jeremy Gallon is making some nice downfield catches, and Toussaint is on another level from Rawls and Smith. You can see the difference immediately in these tight-frame closeups.

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April 2nd, 2012 at 1:21 PM
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It often is.  There are at

It often is.  There are at least a couple stupid burned redshirts each season - Rawls, Hollowell, Gardner, Stokes, Rogers, etc.  I have a hard time believing Hopkins, Smith, Shaw, and Cox couldn't have picked up those 13 carries.

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April 2nd, 2012 at 1:38 PM
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I thought Sam said on his

I thought Sam said on his sunday show, that Fred wanted to play him and he was going to get some time at the ND game but they got behind early and didnt want to put the freshman in that position.  He was going to play more but then got injured.  with the RB's we have and may get, i dont think they will lost any sleep over redshirting him or not. 

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April 2nd, 2012 at 3:53 PM
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Fred Jackson high on Rawls

Coach said he actually wanted to start him for the season until he got hurt shortly before the opener.

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April 2nd, 2012 at 12:51 PM
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Roh vs. Lewan

Lewan is destroying Roh time and time again. I don't know if he's strong enough to hold the edge out there. Granted Roh may face ONE LT that's as good as Lewan all year. But still, it's a clear mismatch.

I'm not sure if he sticks at SDE (5-Tech), IMO he could bounce back and forth between both DE spots the way RVB bounced between the 3-tech (DT) and 5-tech (SDE) spots last year. Which exactly that I think Black will do this year.

IMO we're going to see this:

WDE: Beyer/Clark
NG : Campbell
DT: Black
SDE: Roh

and this...

WDE: Roh
NG: Campbell
DT: Washington
SDE: Black

obviously other guys are going to rotate in...but as of now that's my guess for the two DL lineups that get the most snaps. Assuming you're in a base defense...I think you go with the top combo vs. regular down and distance & passing downs. The bottom vs. running down and distance. Again, that's with your base defense...obviously when you're talking BEAR, Goalline, Nickel and Dime it all changes.

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April 2nd, 2012 at 1:31 PM
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I'd add Heitzman and Wilkins

I'd add Heitzman and Wilkins to that rotation.  

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April 2nd, 2012 at 3:00 PM
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Are you saying this based on

Are you saying this based on extended practice/scrimmage analysis?

In the clip Roh never went up against Lewan.  It was either Beyer or Ryan. 

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April 2nd, 2012 at 12:57 PM
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I miss football. That is all.

I miss football.

That is all.

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April 2nd, 2012 at 1:03 PM
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What is with the three yellow

What is with the three yellow Adidas stripes on the home jerseys?  I notice some had them and some not.  Is this a new thing?  I know we have begun the slipery slope of novelty jerseys, but letting the home jersey become an Adidas billboard might be a bit much. 

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April 2nd, 2012 at 1:14 PM
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Its a practice jersey, and

Its a practice jersey, and not a new thing.

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April 2nd, 2012 at 1:15 PM
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Relax

They're just practice jerseys.  We've had them for at least the past 2-3 springs.

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April 2nd, 2012 at 1:19 PM
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I'd be interested to hear

I'd be interested to hear your justification behind your claim that Gordon and/or a freshman is going to take Jake Ryan's spot. He was pretty solidly one of our best defenders last year and kept (albeit injured) Cam Gordon behind him after he started in place of him early in the year. I think you're going to be hard pressed to get him out of the lineup the rest of his career here. 

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April 3rd, 2012 at 9:32 PM
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Hmmm...

Jake Ryan slept with his girlfriend? I mean, there's got to be a reason for the personal vendetta.

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April 2nd, 2012 at 5:32 PM
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I hate everything you stand

I hate everything you stand for

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April 7th, 2012 at 3:48 PM
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Jake Ryan is one of our top

Jake Ryan is one of our top defenders.?

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April 2nd, 2012 at 1:36 PM
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I'm not sure who you were

I'm not sure who you were watching, but Jake Ryan was making plays left and right by the end of the season.  He's lethal coming off the edge and can tackle players in space.  

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April 2nd, 2012 at 1:49 PM
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Jake Ryan is a hell of a good

Jake Ryan is a hell of a good football player and only a redshirt freshman last year.  If Cam Gordon is starting to seem like a practice all american.  Every year we hear how great he is doing but so far it hasn't translated.  I will take the proven commodity with Ryan.

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April 2nd, 2012 at 2:44 PM
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not to belabor the point

not to belabor the point but...Hoke also talked about Nathan Brink all last preseason and how many snaps did he get in actual, important game time? And using such sound reasoning as "I also just think RJS is going to be really good" is just dynamite there kiddo. RJS may be a very good player, but he would have to be ultra-amazing-wholly-5-star-lock to start over a dude who has 2 years colleged S&C and practice on him AND  who played very well last year. 

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April 7th, 2012 at 3:56 PM
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He was consistently in the

He was consistently in the mix. He is a quality starter and only a sophomore.

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April 2nd, 2012 at 2:58 PM
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3 posts about the same thing, ignoring logical arguments...

TPR is that you? Have you gone from deciding who is committing and when - to being reincarnated as someone who will determine who will be playing?

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April 2nd, 2012 at 4:58 PM
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Don't ever change.

Don't ever change.

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April 3rd, 2012 at 2:40 PM
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fuck adidas

three stripes up the side of the jersey? really? no, fuck YOU, you visually challenged german fucks. on anything but shoes and (sometimes) track suits, the three stripes ALWAYS LOOK TERRIBLE. always.

in conclusion, fuck adidas.

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April 7th, 2012 at 3:58 PM
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Fitz

Who thinks Fitz Toussaint can win the heisman if we run the ball more with him? I think there is a ton of potential that most don't see in him. He can be a Michigan great!

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