Actually, it was exactly the same. It's just that everything else got better.
Peppers at 10, which seems low.
11/23/2013 – Michigan 21, Iowa 24 – 7-4, 3-4 Big Ten
Ypsi-Arbor Bowl was demolished in early October.
MUSIC POST! HIT PLAY OR I KILL YOU!
I am one of those irritating people who believes the Big Lebowski is deep, man. I think this because of everything about it but mostly because of one particular scene. If you have not seen the Big Lebowski, you are about to be spoiled. Also, screw you you're a bad person and you deserve to be spoiled. What is wrong with you? You are bad and should feel bad.
Sorry. I am taking things out on people. I hip-checked an old lady into the frozen pizzas on Saturday because her earrings annoyed me*. That was wrong. I know that now. I will stop doing this posthaste.
The scene is the funeral. Because of miserable copyright bastards you have your choice of an official thing that cuts off before the crucial line or one with the volume turned way down. Here's the latter, turn up for hearings:
It is just so Dave Brandon that the Official Movieclips.com version manages to cut itself off before "Come on, dude… fuck it, man. Let's go bowling." Anyway.
At this point I simultaneously feel that I have to explain and that I have to explain that there's no point in trying. But fuck it, I'm talking to the guys who had the world's saddest tailgate before the season opener and came up to me at our event before the Notre Dame—another world—and were just so excited to be the world's saddest tailgate. They told me about their jury-rigged pancake plans for Notre Dame. They were engineers. That part is probably obvious. I loved them, and I feel badly for them. They're all 18 and probably don't know a damn thing about a movie that came out when they were three and Michigan was national champions.
I don't know anything about Buddhism but the Big Lebowski feels pretty Buddhist. The Dude comes into his apartment to a guy peeing on his rug and from that point on he's propelled through this rollercoaster over which he has zero agency. Literally everything he does in the movie is at the behest of someone else, and what little gestures towards doing something himself are quickly co-opted by the people he's doing them with. He picks up Walter to make the drop; Walter presses his underwear upon the dude and shoots up his car with an uzi. He has sex with Maude; Maude reveals that he acting as a living sperm bank. Etc.
The movie is a series of unfortunate events culminating in the death of Donny thanks to the bullheaded stupidity of Walter, who doesn't want to give up his fifteen dollars to some nihilists. That Donny dies as an indirect effect of that decision is the capper: your desires and actions are futile; you are subject to the random capricious whim of a universe that doesn't care about anything and if it was going to care about something it absolutely wouldn't be you. I don't have to spell the rest out for you. Sports! Fuck sports.
The thing about the funeral scene that kills me every time is the shoving rant from the Dude and Walter's scalded-dog reaction hug in the midst.
what THE FUCK does anything have to do with Vietnam?!?!
This is the guy with the Uzi who pulls a gun on the pacifist, and that is pious. It's a prayer for forgiveness. That kills me every time. And then the song. I mean.
I've probably mentioned this before, but in the aftermath of The Horror the one thing I wanted and needed to do more than anything else in the world was watch The Big Lebowski. I don't think I knew why at the time; it was my favorite movie but if you asked me why I wouldn't have been able to come up with much in particular. As I was watching it the whole Lebowski-Sports thing dawned, the lack of agency over your emotional state, the attempt to come to terms with arbitrary bullshit wreaking havoc on your emotional state, the lumbering oaf you've chosen to have far too much influence on your emotional state. I revert to it still, because at the end the Dude reaches out and clasps Walter to him, and fuck it, let's go bowling.
I have to tell you that I am at a low ebb right now.
3-9 was awful but had an element of fun in it in the same way Naked and Afraid does: holding my frozen hands to the pretzel machine and feeling guilty when I returned to the stands to find that I'd tried to heat myself so long I'd missed Michigan's first three-and-out of the second half. This is worse, six years on. It's lost its novelty, and now staring at the Armageddon that is the last week of the season is just Promethean fate. I can't imagine accidentally missing any part of this football season and thinking anything other than "stroke of luck, that." I don't see a way in which Michigan gets on Ohio State's level in the near future, and even plotting out Michigan State's level is pretty murky.
I also don't see a FIRE THIS TURDFACE solution. This is the culmination of a dozen different things, all richly deserved by everyone except the fanbase, and my belief is that the best course of action is to persist with this low-attrition, good-dude, quality-talent recruiting and hope that the blithering recedes as things go along. I hate this, because I know that any realignment towards an offense that I actually like will be met with a reaction equivalent to George Wallace hearing that they're integrating the schools, and that the burden of Michigan's past hangs over them in a way that Ohio State was perfectly happy to throw over before Urban Meyer even showed up. I also feel that Michigan will insist that it's anyone's fault but their own, and that the best we can hope for is 1997: an outlier.
This is massively enervating. We're staring down a 20-year period in which Michigan beats Ohio State like 4 or 5 times. Memories of when Michigan could claim equality are as fresh as Jim Delany's letter about how the SEC was a bunch of stupid poopy pants, and as relevant. This feels like a new order, right now. Inescapable.
Fuck it, dude. I'm going bowling. At 5 PM after Michigan gets its anatomy explored on Saturday, I'm going to Colonial Lanes on Industrial, which still exists, and I'm going to throw some balls in the general direction of some pins.
I can't stand bowling. I suck at it and there is nothing more frustrating than sucking at throwing a ball straight at things that aren't defended or even moving. Any time you fail to bowl you have failed to be a vaguely functional person. I hate bowling. So it is obviously perfect for Saturday.
If you promise not to talk about this year's football team, I would love for you to join me. I will tell you it is not your fault. You will tell me it is only about 5% my fault. It will not be a great time but I'm sick of staring at a computer screen trying not to check twitter. By God if I am going to be enervated it is going to be by not being able to throw a ball straight for a moderate distance. I'm done being enervated by sports, if only for just this moment.
In the moment where I take the ball down from its perch between my hand and my clavicle there will be a moment of beautiful, stupid hope that will persist past the results. And that moment will be enough to mitigate what follows.
Therefore I will bowl.
*[For the people who run the Children of Yost account: that's a joke, and your hat is unflattering.]
There is no other stuff, except the elsewhere section because by God ST3 and bronxblue persist. Goddamn if bronxblue doesn't nail it:
And yet, I still can’t find it in myself to turn off these games. I know why, of course: there are only 13-14 games a year, and when times are good or at least exciting there is nothing better to watch. And when the team isn’t that good (which, let’s be honest, started well before RR’s tenure made it official), the calcified memories of former greatness and the diminishing hope of a return keep me coming back. And despite the losses and the continuing sense that UM is still on the wrong side of history, I’ll keep watching and coming back to watch, even games like this when you could feel the loss coming after Iowa’s first drive of the 2nd half. And in all likelihood, my kids will love watching UM football as much as me, even when they realize that patch of missing hair isn’t because Dad was pranked. But this simply cannot end soon enough for me, and next week’s OSU game will likely get the background treatment as I shop online, listen to music, and otherwise tool around the apartment.
And ST3 goes with the Smiths, because yeah:
Stop me, oh, stop me...
Akron, yes Akron, records 8 TFLs
Stop me if you think that you've heard this one before
UConn, still winless as I write this, records 10 TFLs.
You are both champions, gentlemen. Thank you for your posts.
Also, if you want a graphical representation of the way Michigan's offense is going, dnak438 has your evidence. It is grim.
Not that I needed to tell you that.
Actually, it was exactly the same. It's just that everything else got better.
If anyone wants to experience cognitive whiplash for some reason, follow the "saddest tailgate" link back to Brian's season opener post, and read his thoughts on the offensive line and Shane Morris.
It's still gobsmacking to think about the difference between the first two games and the rest of the season.
is probably my favorite British word, just above git and wanker.
From;The Huntsville Times
Note the bolded portion
Borges is out as Auburn offensive coordinator
Posted by Phillip Marshall, The Huntsville Times December 11, 2007 12:26 AM
Two seasons of offensive struggles have cost Al Borges his job as Auburn's offensive coordinator.
Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville told Borges last week of his decision to make a change. Borges has already left the Auburn staff and will not coach against Clemson in the Chick-fil-A Bowl on Dec. 31. There has been no official announcement from Auburn, but that will come soon. It is uncertain when Tuberville will name a replacement or who will coordinate the offense in the bowl game.
In going 8-4 in the regular season, Auburn scored two or fewer touchdowns in six of eight Southeastern Conference games and finished 101st out of 119 Division I-A teams with an average of 298.3 yards per game.
Rich Rodriguez sealed his fate with his unfortunate decision to hire Greg Robinson, whose resume had as many negatives as positives, if not more. It appears as though Hoke made a similarly ill-advised decision to bring Borges with him.
A head coach is only as good as his assistants. Bo had his weaknesses as a head coach, but assembling a staff wasn't one of them.
Sadly, I think Rodriguez's fate was sealed even earlier when he undermined Shafer and had him install the 3-3-5 for the Purdue game. I think Shafer was a quality defensive coordinator that got ran out of town because RR's buddies didn't get along with him. Even GERG has shored up Texas's defense when allowed to run the defense he wants. That side of the ball was completely mismanaged the whole time he was here, and it's sad because because now we have to watch the other guys run off a huge win streak by pairing a talented spread offense with a competent defense.
3-9. 3-9 sealed his fate. He could have gotten out of it with a B1G championship in year 3, but myself and everyone I know (alums and former ballplayers) had lost all hope after 3-9. It sucks and its unfair, but there was almost no way to get us back. Coaching is a tough gig.
Rodriguez should have been fired after 3-9 (you know, at the time his fate was sealed). That is on Bill Martin for being unwilling to pull the trigger, but also on Brandon for not seizing the opportunity after taking over the job in 2009. He even had major (albeit bullshit) NCAA violations with which to eliminate Rodriguez's buyout, so why allow the program to continue cratering through 2010, making it harder for the next coach to succeed? This also holds true to whatever reason Brandon could possibly have had to retaining Rodriguez for an extra 5 weeks (effectively butchering the 2011 recruiting class for the next coach) when the senior class knew he was dead man walking after Ohio State (source: Three and Out).
A few weeks ago, after the curbstomping in East Lansing, I queried what would differentiate a desultory losing streak to end the season, say, at 7-5 or even 7-6 with a bad bowl loss, from the season that resulted in Rich Rodrigeuz's termination.
Mind you, I didn't predict anything. I only asked a question. And you answered. I can't find the post now; maybe you can. I recall you saying that Hoke's going 7-6 would put him on a hot seat. No matter the Michigan insiders' liking Hoke and disliking Rodriguez; Hoke would be in just as precarious a position. The record, you implied, don't lie.
I don't want to mischaracterize you. I just couldn't find the quote from you.
Josh Groban. Hoke won't. That will be enough (probably) to save him.
I can't find the quote either. I've been posting like a mad man recently. But I do remember answering. I think a 7-win season would warm the seat up.
I don't think the seat would be really hot. But before the Nebraska game, his seat was positively chilly. If we end up with 7 wins, I think something like a staff shakeup ala Lloyd's in 2006 would be a possibility. Lloyd wasn't close to losing his job after his 7-5 2005 season, but he knew he needed to make some changes. He did. He changed both coordinators and had a great 2006 season.
I really wasn't trying to trip you up or catch you in an inconsistency.
I'll bet money that Brady Hoke will be Michigan's head football coach next year. And I know we agree on that. My only point might be that the big difference between a Hoke 7-6 and a Rodriguez 7-6 is that the entire program atmosphere around Rodriguez was toxic. That's not the case with Hoke. Again, I expect that we agree. And I'd strongly argue that the toxic atmosphere in the Rodriguez era was due in large part to the NCAA investigation. And we know who is responsible for that, don't we? It ain't Rich Rodriguez.
There's one aditional point that you have made, that few others have latched onto, and which is an excellent one: It is a real damned rarity in Big Ten football, when a secure head football coach fires one of his coordinators. I cannot click off any sort of a list. The exceptions sort of prove the rule that coordinators almost never get fired. But that is in fact what Lloyd Carr did, a couple of times. In addition to Rodriguez/Shafer.
We actually agree on quite a bit. Had I known a lot of the actual details of the Freep hatchet job, I probably would have been a bigger supporter of Coach Rod. Unfortunately, I didn't. Neither did most of my friends.
About tripping me up, I don't care. People change their minds all the time. There was a time I would have taken a bullet for Lloyd Carr. Even today, I consider him a great coach and a great guy and a father figure of sorts. But even I couldn't defend him after App State. This isn't some kind of inconsistency. Things change, people change their minds, no biggie.
and with that, the rest of the blog will follow like lemmings off the cliff.
if you're reminiscing about a 3-9 season, then you've either completly re-written history or are utterly delusional. at the very least, you're demonstrating the brain capacity of a child - "this is the WORST thing to EVER happen to me." apart from everything else that happened in that season - the broken bowl streak, toledo, the northwestern snowstorm - we also lost to this guy. yes, if you're pining for 3-9 then you've completely gone through the looking glass, where sanity no longer applies.
the team is bad, sure. it happens. and they may get embarassed on saturday, but that happens too. there is some water bottle story, i think, that brian wrote somewhere back in the day that applies here, and i am taking those lessons and sticking with the team. you all can live in a 2008 fantasy world where nick sheridan has just beaten minnesota and everything is going to be a-okay.
go blue. beat the bucks.
if you think that Brian is straightforwardly pining for 3-9.
was an exaggeration, but this isn't the first time that brian, and others, have compared this season to a 3-9 outfit and came away saying "3-9 was awful but had an element of fun in it"
I dont thin 3-9 had an element of fun in it but it at least had an element of hope in it. We were installing this fancy newfangled offense we'd been watching torch our d for the past several years and knew we really didnt have the personnel to run it right. But we were pretty sure that next year would be much, much better.
I don't feel that way anymore. Right or wrong I feel like next year is going to be much, much worse.
was against the Gophers!
Here's what depresses me: We probably won't make a staff change. We probably will get better. We'll probably be very good by 2015. But because we keep Al Borges on staff, we will almost always be a game or two worse than we really are. That's who he is: An average FBS OC who can perform well when he's got the personnel, but will rarely win you a game due to his ability.
Here it is: I've said it before, but it should go on a front page thread:
Over the last four games in regulation, our offense has averaged 208 yards a game.
They've scored 10.5 points per game.
They're a miracle field goal away from being 0-4 in the stretch.
That's Greg Robinson with RR's meddling level of incompetence and probably worse because the talent is superior on the offense than it was on the 2010 defense. How anyone can try and come up with an excuse for keeping him around is beyond me. Its mind-boggling and it just goes to show there will always be people who want to be different just for the sake of being different. Anyone holding the opinion that Al Borges somehow deserves to be here next year or that all the problems this team faces are down to "youth" is wrong. Even more than that: its idiotic because they spend hundreds of posts, spewing 10s of thousands of words defending the above offensive output.
My only hope stems from what happened with the basketball team with Beilein making wholesale changes.
it is really beyond rational debate at this point that Borges is sub-standard. Many things in life have two sides that you can legitimately argue about, but on this point there is no intelligent argument possible for the "it's not his/all fault" Borges side. That ship has sailed, especially when there was evidence of that before this year (see OSU game, MSU in '11, etc).
And I agree he will probably get another year, and that is depressing for the reason you site--we likely will be somewhat better on offense next year anyway. Which means, just like with the last few years of LC, we will lose at least one and often two games per year that we should not lose, entirely due to coaching.
This is exactly how I feel as well. Barring some Woodson-esque player changing the balance of every game, Borges will always deliver a loss or two than a much better (hell, or even less stubborn) OC.
is that I feel Brian is at his best when he's the dejected writer.
You bring up a great point. I think his best writing can come when he is full of hope-- i.e., the piece he wrote before The Game in 2006 that ends with "Go. Fight. Win. Please," is probably his best piece (I've been reading since then) link: http://mgoblog.com/content/eleven-swans. However, when he is sad, which unfortunately has happened more often in the past 7 years, he can really turn something great out as well (i.e., the post after the OSU game in 2007 where he discussed waiting for a man named "Skeeter" or something, etc) link: http://mgoblog.com/content/empire-fallen; references this one (also excellent): http://mgoblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/michigan-2007-part-i-offense.html
I think, really, he's at his best when he's his most emotional, and I count "going numb from overload of negative emotions" as "emotional."Also, this is a hell of a piece he wrote in 2008, along those lines: http://mgoblog.com/content/age-miracles
Those four pieces are his best writing, IMO, and are, still, impressive as hell and sets the proprietor on a higher literary plane/plane of thought than the mods over at Rivals and Scout. This here's a thinking man's blog. Was. (Damn n00bs/lack of voting)
No, he just becomes Alanis Morrisette with a penis.
"How did you go bankrupt?"
"Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly." -- Hemingway, The Sun Also Rises
The team is not fun to watch right now. I don't blame people for declining this entertainment product. I have been more averse to both the way we have won and lost this year. It's more than being fair weather.
The only entertaining B1G game this year was Indiana, since they have no defense. Put Michigan against any team with a pulse on defense, and we look like a turd.
I will keep watching, but my expectations for victory, success, and even player development for this year are in the basement. My new baseline: I want to see effort and exuberance.
I hated Indiana. Shootouts aren't fun for me at all.
close win over a mediocre boston college team. loss to northwestern. close win over a crappy indiana team. miserable losses at purdue and penn state. loss to a forgotten alabama team on new years day. 277 points scored in 12 games. just a total a slog of a season - and i know, i was there.
going into 1997, we had one returning starter on the offensive line and an ex-guard replacing an all-american center. Had a new quarterback. the defense lost six starters. the SI preview suggested that the "M stands for mediocrity."
i'm not suggesting that we'll run the table next year (well, obviously), just that there were lots and lots of reasons to think that 1997 would be another so-so season (and it should be noted - one of those reasons were ongoing concerns about the coaching staff). one thing we DID have in 1997 was talent. there's some talent here, and more on the way.
It doesn't stop. Hell I was anti-Carr. I can't stop, I drove to Iowa City and stayed till the end of the game Saturday and part of me doesn't even know why.
Just thinking of 4 loss Lloyd makes me sick and I would have been thrilled with 4 losses this year. This is a 6 loss team this year, it doesn't matter who they play in the bowl they are going to lose.
Just the other day I thought to myself that I could probably better my seats next year since so many people seems to be falling off the wagon and I don't think this program is going to improve much under this administration.
I'm going to hopefully enjoy the hell out of the basketball and hockey game Friday and just hope the game Saturday has a lot of running plays so I can get the hell out of there and be home at a decent hour.
Someone mentioned it only takes 1 and talking about 97. Maybe Peppers is the guy to give Michigan their spark back. Maybe they can use him all over the place and entice more Peppers in the future. One can hope.
I just don't have it in me like I did a few years ago. I'm 28 and over five years removed from leaving campus. When Hoke came people said Michigan was gonna be Michigan again. I don't even know what that means anymore.
The last time this program could possibly claim that was in 2006, and really back to 2003. I have been to every game since, but I'm tired. Ticket prices are high and the product is bad. My realy reason for going this late in the year is to tailgate with friends and forget about all the daily stress that football takes away for a few hours each week.
It's not fun anymore. I'm not sure if it has to do with me getting older, but I don't care like I did just a few years ago. Look at the italics below, I was at the 2008 NW game all the way to the bitter end, and loved every minute. Maybe it was the sense that things would get better. They did, slowly. With this team, there's no sense of a better next year.
Where do I get one of those. I was at the 95 Purdue game, 08 NW and last Saturday in Iowa City.
I have been a season ticket holder for over 30 years and have attended most Michigan-OSU games for longer than that. But my fandom has been on a downward trajectory for some time--probably since around 1998. I have been missing a couple of games a season of late--when at an earlier stage of my life that would have been unthinkable--sacrilegious. Things like PSDs, corporate boxes--the availability of tickets via stubhub-- have me questioning whether I will re-up each year. But if I didn't then I wouldn't see my football friends--and traditions would die out.
I used to attribute this to having kids--their activities creating weekend conflicts. But this season has made clear to me that was just my excuse because I didn't really know the reason. I think I do now. It is the general malaise that has taken hold. We certainly won more games under Carr, but those were largely insufferably boring seasons--save 2006 (and it has become clearer with time what an outlier 1997 was--and how truly manifest was Woodson's season). I get it that 8-4 seasons are decent--but it was more that we won by boring our opponents to death. That's why I held out high hopes for Rich Rod--though I don't believe I knew it at the time. And then the horror of RichRod's time--and I mean all of it including this Board.
So like most, we turned to Hoke to bring us/me out of my malaise. This season has made clear to me that won't be happening within the forseeable future. Oh we may well get better if recruiting stays strong--though I am fearful that this season will do great damage to recruiting--and return to the world of 8-4. But they will still be sleepwalking seasons with few signature wins--even fewer against the Buckeyes.
I will still go from time-to-time, watch more often than not and cheer us on. But it won't be the same--because I just realized it hasn't been for a long time.
I don't agree with Brian's assessment that we should continue this path if there is in fact a better coach available out there, but y'know, that's like your opinion or whatever man.
That assumes that
A) There is a better coach out there
B) Said better coach is available
C) Said better coach is willing to come to Michigan.
I guess I see this as more of a marathon than sprint. The situation that OSU found itself in (Meyer at liberty, with a huge amount of coaching talent, and the desire to work for you) is pretty rare.
I don't see Michigan pulling anyone out of a major university either (to be fair, I don't think many programs can do that. I don't see Oregon or Stanford able to suck Les Miles out of LSU, for example).
What we are left with is a bunch of guys at lower levels who may or may not be able to coach at Div 1 levels. MSU got lucky that Dantonio could coach at that level, and move up and find 3 stars and develop them. But that path is a crap shoot, not a clear improvement.
And the biggest question of all, are we - and by that I mean DB - capable of identifying a better coach?
I hear you, Brian. I'm just tired. Tired of Dave Brandon. Tired of Hunter Lochmann. Tired of my university trying to market itself to me as if I need to reinvent what I think Michigan is. Tired of the MMB getting shat on. Tired of football that isn't all that much fun to watch, with a trajectory that doesn't look too promising. I'm just tired.
It used to be a Michigan loss would have me seething, in a funk for days. Saturday, it was the third time now that I just turned off the TV and kept talking to my friends for an hour before realizing "wait, we just lost... What am I doing? I should be throwing things right now. Oh, wait, it doesn't matter. This stuff is more important."
I'm with bronxblue, I'm going to watch, but part of me really thinks the mounting shit over the past few years has just killed my fandom. I'm making the trek back to Ann Arbor to sit in the freezing cold in a parking lot for six hours on Saturday. And it's the quality dad time that excites me more than having to trudge into the stadium to be wedged into a tiny seat in a section of StubHub-buying assholes that manage to get in a shouting match with the 35-year regulars every big game, with music and PSAs and noise blared into my ears for four hours... All to watch Devin Gardner get systematically murdered by a thousand Al Borges papercuts.
Dude, let's go bowling.
Seems to me that this staff's defining achievment or skill thus far has been their recruiting prowess. Having shitty results in the actual games will put a damper on that real quick mark my words. It already happened with Hand. Go to play for a NC or go and play for second place (if we're lucky) in a shitty conference.
Also had an 11-2 season, the best we've seen since 2006 at least, and at a time when we desperately needed it.
of what you would consider Michigan's best players, the ones who standout, did this coaching staff actually recruit?
Recruiting is a two part process. Convincing players to come to your school (something this staff seems good at) and finding guys who are good football players (something this staff seems to suck at, especially on the offensive side of the ball).
This staff signed Russell Bellomy in 2011, didn't sign a QB in 2012, and put all its eggs in the Shane Morris basket in 2013. By comparison, the prior staff had signed Tate, Denard, and Devin Gardner in the same timeframe. Those guys had combined for two years of starting experience and one of them had been named player of the year in the conference by RR's third season.
At running back (a position of need if you are going to go all MANBALL), they signed Thomas Rawls in 2011 (Is he still alive?), unheralded local product Drake Johnson in 2012 (hard to count Norfleet as a RB if they're never going to play him there), and again have all our eggs in the Green/Smith basket from the 2013 class (neither of whom look like world beaters or super special talents at this point). There is no RB in the 2014 class at this point. By comparison, in RR's third year Mike Shaw and Vincent Smith combined for over 1,000 rushing yards and the team's best back (Fitz) was on campus but injured (he would have a 1,000 yard season himself a year later). And the QB he recruited added another 1,700+ rushing yards that year.
The best WR out of Hoke's 2+ recruiting classes on campus (Funchess) spent over a year being told to block DE and OLB instead of running pass patterns and catching TDs.
The one OL Hoke's staff added in 2011 is now buried on the depth chart after starting two games. The most highly touted recruit from the 2012 class was benched for a 6'1" walk-on midseason, stayed on the bench in favor of a true freshman when said walk-on got hurt, and then returned to the lineup this week only to see the terrible offensive numbers get even more terrible. Magnuson is playing but flipping positions and struggling. The other two guys in that class seem like they'll be buried on the depth chart in perpetuity at this point. By comparison, Patrick Omameh was a solid starter in RR's third year and Taylor Lewan was a freshman All-American. Molk, Schilling, Boren (even him), Long, Backus, and Hutchinson all started in year two. David Baas didn't, but he was 1st team All-Conference in year three. It doesn't look like we have any of those types of guys in the 2012 class.
Now explain to me how this offense gets loads better (which they will have to if Hoke is the longterm answer for an elite Michigan football program) when the 2nd leading receiver in the B1G, an All-American LT, a former 1,000 yard rusher, and the 2nd best OL on the team leave next year? Maybe the 2013 class is full of ridiculous talents who will take the reins on the OL next year. Maybe the naysayers at the recruiting sites are wrong and Shane Morris is a legit Heisman caliber QB and future NFL'er. Maybe Borges/Funk/Jackson are so bad they are screwing it all up and a change can make a load of difference. Maybe Green is still out of shape and will look like a gamebreaking back with a year in the weight room and a hypothetically improved OL and a hypothetically more coherent offense.
That's a lot of maybes. And none of them have anything to do with guys getting more experience and improving as they naturally do.
i miss henri.
I've seen it all. Michigan lost the first three Big 10 games I attended as a freshman (in 1962) by scores of 0-28, 0-37, and 0-17. So, I can take the losing and manage low expectations. What I don't like and can't support is what I perceive to be mediocre coaching by the HC, OC, and OL & RB coaches, and the apparent acceptance of this by many fans and the AD. I remember that Bump Elliott was let go after an 8-2 season and two year's out from a Rose Bowl win and Big 10 Championship. That was when the new AD, Don Canham, demanded excellence on the football field, just like in the classroom. I believe that requirement was behind the decisions to let Lloyd Carr retire, not accept either of his coordinators as his replacement, and bring in Rich Rodriguez. I backed the choice of RR and was disappointed in the outcome as I saw him as being a relative young, successful, and very innovative coach (much like Fielding Yost and Fritz Crisler). I do not support a job extension for Hoke. Prior to joining UofM, he had a losing record as a HC and has not anything remotely innovative. He is a good recruiter (being at UofM doesn't hurt) and made a good choice in Mattison. Other than that (and the one good season in 2011) his tenure ahs been very disappointing. Timne for a change.
Thanks for making the pain go away..... if only for a few minutes