On Laremy Tunsil Comment Count

Brian

So the thing that everybody knew happened did happen.

As revelations go it's small time. Tunsil didn't get suspended for seven games for nothing.

Here is the best description of the admission. Tunsil went in front of the media almost as the Instagram stuff was posted and said these things in this order:

Then Tunsil was asked about the Instagram posts. He said he’d just found out about them, and reiterated that he’d made a mistake. Asked by reporter as to whether there’d been an exchange of money between Tunsil and a coach, he first responded, “I wouldn’t say that.” But when pressed a few moments later, he said, “Those messages?” almost as if he hadn’t understood the previous questions. “Those were true. Like I said, I made a mistake.”

Asked again if there had been an exchange of money, Tunsil then responded matter-of-factly, “I have to say yeah.” A further question about whether he’d met with the NCAA was being posed when Milam appeared from behind a curtain, cutting the session short. “He’s got no more comments. Thank you guys so much,” she said, tapping the offensive lineman on the shoulder, whisking him away and leaving media as baffled as Tunsil apparently had been.

Tunsil said it twice and was clearly referring to the Instagram posts since "those" is not a way you'd reference the bong hit. That's about as clear as it'll ever get.

Good for Tunsil, more or less. Dude got paid, got to the NFL as a mid-first-round pick, and got to do a gas mask bong in front of a Confederate flag. I guess that's empowering?

I don't have any issue with Tunsil's priorities. I assume 80% of college football players have taken hits off a novelty bong. I'm assuming his family is not particularly wealthy; it's a logical decision to get paid when you happen to be an incredible prospect in a field that has a professional career that lasts on average 2.6 years. Maybe don't film yourself doing a thing that you know the NFL is irrational about, but the only proper response to tut-tutters is to roll your eyes.

Meanwhile I can get behind following that up with an honest admission he got paid to go to a university with negligible football history and Confederate flags behind every bong. I'll only be vaguely irritated at Tunsil if he walks back those admissions. He doesn't owe anything to Ole Miss; a look inside the sausage factory can only speed up the day when people can give money to college football players over the table. There is a point at which the NCAA must admit that they have no ability to prevent people from getting paid and drops the whole charade.

And what a charade it is. Whenever I bring this up and advocate near-total deregulation of money headed to college football players there is a pushback from people who say

  1. but then people with money will have influence on football programs and
  2. but then college football players will have the money.

I look at these people and wonder why they think 1 isn't already true—even at programs trying to stay between the lines—and why 2 is a problem. The text message exchange is an attempt to get a bill paid for his mom. We have zero issue with 18 and 19 year olds getting paid in any other sport; paternalistic concerns they might do something harmlessly stupid with the money are nonsensical since then the players are merely back where they started.

Ole Miss got greedy. The reason that Ole Miss might actually take a fall here is because they got greedy. They had a story why they might acquire Robert Nkemdiche—his brother was already on the team. They had zero plausible story why they'd acquire Tunsil or Laquon Treadwell, out-of-state five stars with zero connection to a program that hadn't done anything since the 1960s. Tunsil in particular seems to have come with some serious family baggage that may explain why Ole Miss was able to outbid others:

Suspicion for the hacks quickly and naturally fell upon Tunsil’s stepfather, Lindsey Miller, with whom Tunsil has been engaged in a lengthy and nasty legal battle.

Last June, Tunsil was arrested on domestic-violence charges after a fight with Miller. Tunsil told police that his stepfather had pushed his mother, and he punched Miller to protect her, and pressed charges against Miller. Miller told police that Tunsil hit him at least six times, that the attack was unprovoked, and that the argument started over Tunsil having impermissible contact with agents. NCAA investigators interviewed Miller over his claims that he had proof of rules violations committed by Ole Miss.

A month later, Tunsil and Miller agreed to drop the charges against each other.

This past Tuesday, two days before the draft, Miller filed a lawsuit against Tunsil, claiming Tunsil assaulted him and defamed his character. The suit alleges “intentional infliction of emotional distress.”

If you're Alabama you can just move on to the next kid. (Or maybe not.) Ole Miss can't, and that may be their undoing. And it should be. While paying players is morally fine it is also against the rules.

Hi, Hugh Freeze. If there's ever been an example of a guy who just along for the ride it's Hugh "muh families" Freeze. Dude is an anonymous high school coach before a one-year apprenticeship at Arkansas State and then Ole Miss. Upon his arrival they start recruiting like they matter, and he bitches about having to work.

Gus Malzahn is a great comparison here. Malzahn also came from high school and also had a one year apprenticeship at Arkansas State before getting the Auburn job, but beforehand he was OC at Arkansas and Auburn and Tulsa and had excellent success at all those places, getting chased about because sometimes those places are insane. Malzhan got his job because he's a good football coach, and if Auburn's paying some guys to come that's only part of his success. Survey says they are, but not egregiously.

Freeze has nothing to his name other than the ability to not observe cash payments to high-profile recruits, and over the past year his program has seen one Nkemdiche fall out off a balcony whilst high, the other Nkemdiche leave the team and get hospitalized twice with "personal issues," and now the Tunsil thing. One of the appeals of the Ole Miss program appears to be a total lack of adult supervision. The NCAA changing official visit policies so that parents can come along will not be a help to them.

It's to the point where the NFL notices:

Multiple sources told The MMQB that Tunsil’s off-field behavior was becoming increasingly worrisome and reason for some teams to remove him from their draft boards altogether. Much of it had to do with the culture at Mississippi, sources say.

A Freeze implosion here would be richly deserved. Whether the NCAA has the ability to deliver it is very much in question, unfortunately.

Comments

KungFury

April 29th, 2016 at 2:40 PM ^

Yes there are lots of Jon gruden get off my lawn types yelling on their soap boxes. Do I think that an NFL GM cares that he smoked weed and took money? No, I don't think they give a flying fuck. You only have to test for weed if you're an idiot like josh Gordon that come in with baggage. The tests for PEDs don't test for weed. They do care that he made lots of compounding bad decisions that spiraled out of control on what should have been the biggest night of his career



Sent from MGoBlog HD for iPhone & iPad

My name ... is Tim

April 29th, 2016 at 2:31 PM ^

I disagree that this revelation is small time. I think the seven game suspension was the result of the improper benefits, but I doubt that was all that would result from the NCAA discovering that these improper benefits were being funneled through requests from Tunsil directly to the Ole Miss athletic department and coaching staff. 

My guess? The NCAA nabbed Tunsil on the impermissible benefits but wasn't able to uncover any involvement with the AD/coaching staff initially. (Despite these texts, I highly doubt an AD or staff are writing checks directly themselves). Presumably now they can connect the dots from the source of the funds, presumably some outside booster that Ole Miss' staff could connect with, to Ole Miss' program. I think this revelation could be potentially devastating. Coordinating payments through an associate AD is above and beyond a lack of institutional control, it's the wild west of NCAA lawlessness.

treetown

April 29th, 2016 at 3:17 PM ^

Consider many "top" universities have degree granting programs in dramatics, music performance, performance arts, 'fine" arts like sculpture/painting/collage/pottery/mixed media etc. Making a living as an actor, musician and artist is NOT easy. Most never "make it big."

Some college athletes want to make a living as a professional athlete. Most never "make it big."

Yet, no one offers a degree or concentration in performance athletics.

There may be about 12 kids at every top program that has a reasonable chance, so why not let them concentrate on that?

IF we use the argument that "it is not likely" or statistics about future employment, let's close down most of the art, music, and dance programs for the same reason.

IF we use the argument that "it is not the same thing, it is not art" - I'd say "really? how many people's emotions rise and fall with the performance of these players? How many people become inspired by the performance of these athletes?"

 

bronxblue

April 29th, 2016 at 3:41 PM ^

Hugh Freeze will stay until he loses, because Ole Miss fans really don't care. Imagine you got the crap kicked out of you by the school-designated denizens of Alabama and Louisiana for decades and see if you care about paying a couple of kids. My only issue with what happened with Tunsil is that he seems like a guy who can't keep a story from mushrooming. I'm sure he smoked a lot of pot and got some walking around money, but the reason you don't hear about this at Alabama, or OSU, or Texas, or UM is that guys keep it limited and quiet for the most part (Pryor being the big exception off the top of my head). And it doesn't help that Ole Miss seems like a madhouse to begin with, where people talk about "Southern values" in sun dresses and boat shoes drinking hottie totties while wallowing at the bottom of US education, economy, and health rankings.

BuckNekked

April 29th, 2016 at 4:43 PM ^

At some point somebody is going to have to take the fall. Ole Miss looks better than Alabama if you are the NCAA and in Sabans back pocket.

ppudge

April 29th, 2016 at 5:41 PM ^

I continue to wonder how all of these schools get away with blatant disregard for the rules and Michigan was penalized for stretchgate. Even the Chris Webber saga - he was paid because Fisher looked the other way. The school was punished so brutally that our hoops program took over a decade to recover and honestly, we're not recovered fully because we used to be elite and we're not even close to that right now. That said, I'd LOVE Manuel to raise those Fab Five banners, as a kind of F U to the NCAA. We recognize those Final Fours - they happened, just as much as Auburn's national championship with Cam Newton. Deal with it!

tricradocr

April 30th, 2016 at 4:05 AM ^

Google pay $70 per hour my last pay check was $7000w0rking 104 hours a week 0nline. My younger brother friend has been aveeraging 11k for months now and he w0rks about 22 hours a week. I cant believe how easy it was once I tried it out. This is what I do.. clik at this go to tech tab for more details…

========   http://www.E-cash10.COM

ThoseWhoStayUofM

May 1st, 2016 at 11:12 AM ^

it's immoral to pay players because it's against the rules. if the rules were entirely unenforced, then it's not immoral because everybody can do it freely. the second that anybody is harmed by paying players, it becomes immoral. The University of Mississippi, their athletic department, and all those who support them are now going to be harmed because a few people wanted to break enforceable rules. Paying players is immoral because the penalty for such behavior is harmful to those who did no wrong.

hacegajefr

May 2nd, 2016 at 3:48 AM ^

I can see what your saying... Carrie `s st0rry is great, on monday I bought themselves a BMW 5-series from bringing in $7700 this - four weeks past and-a little over, ten k lass month . with-out a doubt this is the easiest work Ive ever done . I actuaally started six months/ago and pretty much immediately began to bring home at least $80, p/h . browse this site........
 

chuslalena

May 2nd, 2016 at 9:09 AM ^

I only work about for 10k- $13k hours a week from home. Im using an online business opporttunity I heard about and I've made such great money. Join the many successful people who have already started freelancing over the web...Read more on this web site... Go to tech tab for work detail...
 

Anon1

May 2nd, 2016 at 5:15 PM ^

If you haven't spent time with Coach Freeze I am not sure whether you can question his coaching ability. I'm an avid reader and big fan but give me break....you are ok with Gus but not Hugh? Coaching is part motivating...well mostly motivating. Again if you know him, besides just blindly writing articles, would you say he lacks the ability to engage and motivate 18-23 year olds? Thought we were better.