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Know Your Foe - Utah

The SPAWN of MZone continues the old MZone Know your Foe feature.

Edit: I have added content based on Dex's helpful suggestion.

History: Although I could find no reference on the official school web site, the University of Utah was originally established in 1850 by Mormon Leader Brigham Young. The school was originally named "University of Deseret" (Deseret was BY's proposed state name for what eventually became Utah). The initial institution closed in 1852 for financial reasons. 15 years later it reopened as a commercial school. It was officially renamed University of Utah in 1894. It serves as the flagship public research university in the state and is one of ten institutions that make up the Utah System of Higher Education.

Location: Salt Lake City (originally known as Great Salt Lake City) has a current total estimated population of 1.1 million people. The city was founded in 1847 also by Brigham Young, who led his group of followers away from Mormon hostility and violence in the midwest. The city is still home to the headquarters of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (also known as the Mormon Church). Despite finding their "promised land" these religious pioneers continued to face persecution primarily for their practice of polygamy (officially abandoned by the Church in 1890). Today, it is unknown how many people actually practice plural-marriage, but the Salt Lake Tribune has an ongoing web feature devoted to following the polygamist news. HBO's hit series BIG LOVE is based on a Salt Lake polygamist family and their struggles to fit into main stream society and still live the principal. Oh yeah, Utah successfully hosted the 2002 Winter Olympics, is home to the NBA's Utah Jazz, and leads the nation in anti-depressant use.

Nickname: In the earliest days of University the students and alumni referred to their athletic teams as both the "Utes" and the "Redskins." Since 1972 all UofU athletics teams have been called the "Utes" in honor of the American Indian tribe for which the state is named. The Utes inhabited that area of the country for at least 1,000 years prior to the Mormon arrival. In 2004, the NCAA banned schools from using Native American nicknames and images. Utah was one of several schools to apply for and receive a waiver.

Mascot: The University's mascot, "Swoop" represents the red-tailed hawk, a bird indigenous to the state of Utah. Swoop was introduced in 1996 after a campus contest to name him. Boring.

Colors: Crimson and White. Utah will the be the first of five teams on the 2008 Michigan schedule that have Crimson/Red/Maroon/Scarlet as their primary color.

Logo/Helmet: Utah uses a simple yet elegant "U" as it's primary logo. There has been surprisingly few changes in their football helmets over the years. They moved to the current "Washington Redskins" design in 1975 and have not really changed since. Personally I like the "UU" version from 1965.

Fight Song: The fight song (Utah Man) was originally written as a beer-drinking song in 1904 by then football coach Harvey Holmes and his team. It has been labeled as sexist, old fashioned, difficult, offensive and dated. The last attempt to change the lyrics was in 1984 when a university vice president suggested changing the lyrics. His decision was vetoed and the song remains.

Utah Man
I am a Utah man, sir, and I live across the green.
Our gang, it is the jolliest that you have ever seen.
Our coeds are the fairest and each one's a shining star.
Our yell, you hear it ringing through the mountains near and far.

Who am I, sir?
A Utah man am I A Utah man, sir, and will be till I die; Ki!Yi!
We're up to snuff
We never bluff
We're game for any fuss
No other gang of college men dare meet us in the muss.
So fill your lungs and sing it out and shout it to the sky
We'll fight for dear old Crimson,for a Utah man am I.

Academics: Ouch. According to the US News and World Report rankings, Utah is the 127th best National University, tied with the New Jersey Institute of Technology and University of San Francisco. Utah is ranked just above the cut-off line of the unranked/Tier III schools. Rival school Brigham Young University is ranked 113th. If Utah were in the Big Ten (cough 11) - they would rank 12th, by a long shot (Michigan State and Indiana are tied at #71).

Athletics: The Utes participate in the Mountain West conference, along with their rival Brigham Young University. The Utah/BYU game is dubbed The Holy War - for which the winner receives the Beehive Boot. They have been playing college football at Rice-Eccles Stadium since 1927. The Utes have the highest winning percentage in the nation for teams who have been to more than 10 bowls (10-3). They have won 23 conference championships. In 2004 Urban Meyer coached the best season in school history, going undefeated (12-0) and became the first school from a non-Bowl Championship Series conference to play in a BCS bowl game when they demoralized Pitt 35-7 in the Fiesta Bowl. Urban left for Florida soon after. Utah has also had long term success in men's basketball (9th most wins among college basketball programs). The Runnin' Utes have made 28 NCAA Tournament appearances and have made 4 Final Four appearances. They won the NCAA Basketball title in 1944. They are currently coached by former Michigan State assistant Jim Boylen. However, Utah's greatest success has been in women's gymnastics, where they have won 10 NCAA championships. Oh yeah, their ski team has won a bunch of championships also, go figure.

Famous Alums: Famous University of Utah Alum include athletes Alex Smith (the top bust in 2005 NFL draft), Andrew Bogut (the top pick in 2005 NBA draft), NBA player Keith Van Horn and former NFL coach George Seifert. Non athletes include Nolan Bushnell (Co-founder of Atari and inventor of Pong); Ed Catmull (Co-founder of Pixar); Jim Clark (founder of Netscape); Stephen Covey (author of the bestseller The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People); E (as in Elwood) Gordon Gee (President at Ohio State); Robert Jarvik (inventor of the Jarvik-7 artificial heart); Willard Marriott (founder of Marriott International and Evelyn Wood (speed reading innovator).

The Game: I am optimistic, but I honestly have no idea. There is so much we don't know about how the Rodriguez system will function with these Michigan players. I asked my son to simulate ten Utah at Michigan games on NCAA09 (XBox 360 version) and Michigan won nine out of ten battles (Brandon Minor won the MVP four times and Steven Threet three times). However, that does not mean anything if you consider you could have simulated one hundred '07 Appy State games -- and Michigan would win all of them. Utah returns a ton of players and are favored to win the Mountain West Conference. I still like the Michigan defense and super ninja freshman Sam McGuffie to beat Gordon Gee's favorite team.

Michigan 24 Utah 14

Go Blue !!

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August 29th, 2008 at 10:49 AM | next time (Score:1)
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make an obvious sock puppet account to post about "this awesome new M blog I found" and then respond with your original account in two minutes, it will be slightly less transparently shameless.

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August 29th, 2008 at 10:58 AM | Shameless ? I will make (Score:1)
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Shameless ?

I will make sure I check with you before I post anything on an open discussion board again.

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August 29th, 2008 at 11:16 AM | poor (Score:1)
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open discussion

 

Sometime, long ago on the internet, people got confused. They took "open" to mean they could say whatever they felt like and no one could call them on it. But really, it means that works both ways. And if you make a post simply to plug your site and offer no real content to the site you are posting on, it's perfectly acceptable for someone to point that out.  Just as you can post something on an open site, I can respond on an open site.

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August 29th, 2008 at 11:23 AM | Thanks for your input. It (Score:1)
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Thanks for your input. It seems to me that you plug your blog on a pretty regular basis (like every time you post a message). I guess I never considered it a problem.

Just so we are clear, on the Diary section of this site it states: If you're posting links to stories, you should do that on the message board.

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August 29th, 2008 at 11:35 AM | and when we plug someone, we (Score:1)
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and when we plug someone, we link directly to their content as opposed to embedding it on our own site and casually mentioning where it came from...

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August 29th, 2008 at 11:57 AM | Fair enough. Just so you (Score:1)
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Fair enough. Just so you know, I was not the one that embedded "your content" - which interestingly enough taken entirely from music/images/video from some one else. I will talk to T9 about properly giving credit in the future, but she did link directly to your site. I have removed the entry so you are no longer offended.

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August 29th, 2008 at 12:13 PM | A) Fair use. B) It would (Score:1)
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A) Fair use.

B) It would be hard to use original content and cover a 6 month time span in the past.

C) I think Dex's objection was more about calling us "spawners" and some blog etiquette about linking content that I know nothing about.

 For the record, I was indifferent to embedding.  Had I not wanted it embedded, I wouldn't have had the code available.

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August 29th, 2008 at 12:28 PM | We could have a long (Score:1)
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We could have a long discussion about "fair use" - but not here and not now.

In our world, the term "spawners" is a term of comradeship.

 

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August 29th, 2008 at 11:35 AM | i thought it was pretty clear (Score:1)
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I mean I know what Spawn of MZone is... I know what Know Your Foe is... It's a link... It's not in the diaries... 

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August 29th, 2008 at 11:28 AM | t('.'t)   (>'.')> <('. (Score:1)
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t('.'t)

 

(>'.')>

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August 29th, 2008 at 11:33 AM | wtf (Score:1)
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wtf man i am baffled by that

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August 29th, 2008 at 11:51 AM | It's Kirby. (Score:1)
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It's Kirby.

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August 29th, 2008 at 12:17 PM | Good Post (Score:1)
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Live in Utah and everything was just about spot on.  Just a note about Utah's fight song...it is one of the worst fight songs in the country.  My cousing is a die-hard Ute fan and he even hates the fight song.  Just a little bit of useless info for ya. 

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August 29th, 2008 at 12:27 PM | Wow....sorry (Score:1)
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Gentlemen--particularly kind ShockFX. I am sorry that I did not use proper etiquette by posting your well-done video on The Spawn. Since Ninja ( a member of WLA) is the blogger formerly known as joshua on MZone I thought that we were all in this together and that you had sent your video as a link to be posted. Honestly I don't know the difference technically between "linking" and "embedding" and I thought that by providing props with a direct link/click (?) to your site right at the beginning that it would be clear where the information came from. My bad.

dex---not sure why you feel the need to hate, but ok. if cross-referencing from here to our site is not 'cool' then we won't bother to again. There are no adds on our site, so the cross-posting was not meant to benefit us in any monetary way and was done at the suggestion of some of our friends over at The Spawn. Those of us who miss Yost and the MZone camaraderie were simply trying to make it known that we are making a go at it.

apparently camaraderie does not equal "comrade" in your army, so consider yourself liberated from us.

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August 29th, 2008 at 2:30 PM | "Honestly I don't know the (Score:1)
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"Honestly I don't know the difference technically between "linking" and
"embedding" and I thought that by providing props with a direct
link/click (?) to your site right at the beginning that it would be
clear where the information came from. My bad."

 For the record, I have no idea either on the blog etiquette part, and if I didn't want it embedded I wouldn't have had the code available.  I just wanted more people to see it since I thought it was good and it took all freaking weekend to make (had to learn 3 new programs arghghahgserhla).   Anyway, I'm over it, go blue!

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August 29th, 2008 at 12:55 PM | FTR (Score:0)
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Look,

Any intra-blog issue that exist (I don't believe I just fucking wrote that), should probably not ever get on this blog's comment board, seeing as Brian has nothing to do with it, and I'm 150% positive that no one on here gives a shit about it. If there's an issue, there's email.

Regardless of my opinion on what constitutes "acceptable" or "unacceptable" pimping of one's website, I'm not the blog police.

In other words, if there's an issue here, maybe it should be discussed. Here is not the place.

As a writer for one of the guilty-party blogs, I can only say "Sorry Brian".

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August 29th, 2008 at 1:08 PM | Don't understand the beef, but (Score:1)
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I loved the KYF featore on M-Zone and am excited that it was pointed out on Spawn.

 

Go Blue!

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August 29th, 2008 at 2:35 PM | yes (Score:1)
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fair enough, i was being an asshole for the sake of being an asshole

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August 29th, 2008 at 2:37 PM | That fight song is (Score:1)
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That fight song is incredible.  Somewhere on the internet, there must be footage of  Urban Meyer trying to sing "Our gang, it is the jolliest that you have ever seen" with a straight face. 

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