The defense continues to disappoint. Oh well, nothing like getting blown out in a middling bowl game.
no, YOU'RE off topic
Shane Morris had a solid debut as a starting quarterback.
He also led Michigan in rushing. By 29 yards. Over Devin Funchess.
The defense, meanwhile, couldn't put together a real stop until the second half. KSU receiver Tyler Lockett's three first-half touchdown receptions were more than enough to defeat the Wolverines on their own, as the offense fared no better, failing to reach 300 yards of total offense for the 11th time under Al Borges.
The 2013 season is mercifully over. Michigan finishes at 7-6, blown out by a mediocre Big 12 team. It's 1:30 in the morning. Goodnight, and here's to a better tomorrow.
The defense continues to disappoint. Oh well, nothing like getting blown out in a middling bowl game.
If the defence isn't concerning you, you haven't been paying attention.
A month to prepare for a mediocre offense, and...this? Couldn't stop run or pass, single covered their one truly dangerous player, and appeared to have the same gap/coverage breakdowns that plagued us all year. Terrible job by defensive coaches.
Well, they did make great halftime adjustments. They held KSU to only 1 real drive which ended in a FG. Their TD came after Morris' INT was returned inside the 10 yard line.
While the first half was a debacle, you can attribute some of that to the D being rusty after a month off and KSU having an excellent game plan. After Mattison saw what they were doing, he changed up the schemes and the D played brilliantly in the second half. He deserves credit for that.
In the second half, KSU had four real drives (I'm taking out the drive after the INT and the kneel and the game ender) - two of those were 60 yard drives that took a combined 13:23 off the clock, one included three first downs before the fumble, and the other got extended twice by Michigan penalties before KSU ultimately had to punt on 4th and 5 from the Michigan 45.
If Bill Snyder and KSU wanted anything other than to make the second half as short as possible (which they did - KSU had the ball for 21 minutes in the 2nd half), the score would have been worse.
I think it's also worth noting that the fumble happened the play after Tyler Lockett dropped what would've been his 4th touchdown reception.
The defense did not perform "brilliantly" in the second half. KSU controlled the clock and punted once. They continued to move the ball at will and the only reason the drives ended was a result of turnovers. Stop the propaganda already!
Yup, the extended drives were the result of the inability of the Defense to prevent KSU from picking up 1st downs.
ksu had the game in hand and, with class, dominated the possession clock and chose to secure the game with controlled offense and sturdy defense. Kinda like how Michigan used to do.
LB's are constantly too shallow and the safeties are constantly too deep on zone coverage. Corners give 15 yard cushion on 5 yards to go 3rd downs because the threat of a a deep route failure by the safeties. LB's are the kings of covering empty patches of grass. D-line has consistent containment rush that still allows the QB to sneak through for 10-15 yards gains with ease. Defense became an abject failure at the end of the season unfortunately.
It appears that no single part of the defense has trust in the ability of any other part to complete its job effectively. You end up with a passive display of ineptness,
Yup, it was frustrating to watch the D willing to just "take it".
Ironic that another product of Columbus/Ohio is what brought Michigan to the greatest heights in his respective sport.
Give 'em heck Trey thanks so much for those years.
It is not ironic, they are all from Ohio. Desmond, Charles, there are a lot more. If we had to rely on players from Michigan, our coaching staff would have to be better at developing talent.
Actually that is a pretty good example of irony. Ohio is the "Worst State Ever," but produces a lot of good athletes for us.
I always thought that the "Worst State Ever" tee shirt had a tounge in cheek understanding that we needed Ohio, it's players and even an Ohio coach or two from there as a vital part of our 130 plus years.
Oh well. On to 2014. Go Blue!
What we all already know. This team sucks in all three phases. This game was undeniable proof because the true freshman QB was arguably the best player on the field. What the hell did everybody else do for a month?! There are question marks everywhere - players, coaches, AD. I don't see any positive momentum heading into the offseason. The team sleepwalked through the game. What's scarier, I don't see a coaching staff willing or able to change a goddamn thing.
No Michigan football for 8 long months, but we didn't see much Michigan football in the last 4, and like you said our prospects of seeing any in 2014 are dwindling.
Anyone has one of those mind eraser gadgets like they used in Men in Black. 2013 needs to be blanked from my mind.
Neuralizer, but "you don't need half of your med school classes being erased from your memory."
For a few minutes I thought maybe we would strike back and the defense would find its footing soon enough to make it a game. But no. It was just too much to ask for this year. I wasn't expecting to win, which was bad enough. What was even worse was how boring and awful we were in doing it. Not even sure how to express my disappointment with all phases at this point.
Going to take a few weeks off of football and when I wake up it will be 2014, a new year in which Michigan cannot possibly be this bad.
Meanwhile here's hoping the basketball team has a good big ten campaign.
and pile on if you wish. But I feel worse than I did after 2008. In 08 it was a new coach, new system, and basically a walk-on QB or journeyman QB in the wrong system. You knew it would be bad and it was.
This is year 3 of resurecting the old ways, we are weak, uninspired and frankly a very poorly coached and prepared football team in every way. In 08 I at least had a feeling it couldn't get worse, that it had to get better but right now we went 7-6 and by all rights could have been 5-7 with little sign of improvement or development of "his" players. This could get worse, I just don't have the faith it will be better under this status quo.
It's dead on balls accurate. This program is in a bad, bad way right now.
With this staff, there is a huge number of guys on both sides of the ball who have looked the same from year to year. There are a few guys who we thought would light it up this year, who got better, but not better enough. But most guys got a year older, if they got a year better, it was almost accidental.
The goal of the coaching staff is to have 5 star college players. So, you can take 3 star HS guys and make them 5 star college guy (MSU), or bring in all 4-5 star high school guys and get them developed into 5 star college guys (Bama, OSU).
Unfortunately, we are bringing in 4-5 star HS guys and making them 3 star college guys.
I think THAT puts us in a bad way, more than this year's W/L record.
Agreed on every point. Until this team can start showing us something on the field I have to say I as a fan have reached the point of skepticism. I no longer have faith in any of the coaching staff and the players, while they try, are not prepared, coached up or even taught to execute properly. If it's on the players I then have to believe that all of the sudden these guys can't understand how to do what they're being taught, which again comes down to coaching.
Until we can begin seeing tangible improvement I just don't see any reason for any optimism. I'm tired of hearing year after year how much the QB has improved in the off season, how great the WR's are geling and catching everything thrown their way, how the OL is impressive, etc, etc, etc...
Quit feeding us a line of optimism that has no foundation in reality. Our program has become a second tier program, we're no longer a top tier program that's had a bump in the road and is rebuilding. I say this to the coaching staff and the rah-rah cheerleaders here and in the media. All season long we've seen little glimpses of what could be if things just start clicking. Instead of looking forward to Devin's senior year when he should explode I feel sorry for the young man as he faces andother year of being a tackling dummy and exhibit A for laundry soap. Let's face facts, we're 6-8 years of consitent good recruiting and coaching up before we can hope to regain our former status. If the roster has been that depleted then FILL IT UP WITH TALENT!
It's been 6 years since this roller coaster started. It's been 3 years since the last coaching change just because the last one wasn't working. How long must the program, the alumni and fans be patient? If we stay the course will it be another 1-3 years of a mistake or will we come out on the sunny side of life having stayed the course to success? I don't have any answers and luckily I don't get paid to decide either.
Go Blue! Let's pray that 2014 at least gives us a glimpse of hope for the future.
And 2009. This year is equivalent to '10. i think Snyder could of hung 50 + on us. He backed off in the second half. We looked as pathetic in a bowl game as the '10 team did. The defense sure played as dismal. But now, I don't want a coaching change. Give Hoke his 5 full seasons. RR did not get 5 seasons, and I'm not sure if that was a mistake or a blessing?
On a neutral field, in this bowl season, who wins; the 2013 Michigan Wolverines, or the 2013 Arizona Wildcats?
Oh do we want RR back now? Are we going there? Come on.
... if this team would be ready take on Appalachian State next August 30. But the question I posed (hypothetical Arizona v. Michigan) seemed a bit more interesting and less painful.
We get it, you're president of the Rich Rod Fan Club. Give it a rest.
Rich Rod was not the answer here. Whether Hoke is the answer is up for the debate. But the solution isn't to go back to the crappy coach we had before the current one.
He's proven what he can and cannot do. This Michigan team is probably equal to the 2010 team, realistically. Put them on the field... It'd be a toss up. 2014 should be a TRUE Hoke team. If he can't get 9-10 wins next year with beating 2/3 rivals... He should be gone. I want him to be replaced this year, but that's emotional and unrealistic. He gets another year to prove something. I just don't know what can be done to fix this team.
Whether you like it or not, the present trend for michigan football has been a downward trend for its record since Rich Rod left. The 2013 record is just as bad as the 2010 record including a loss in the bowl game. Both defenses have been mediocre, but if you want to hang it on RichRod and forget about GERG and the Free Press led jihad with the NCAA, go ahead.
Michigan has good recruits but no offense leaders and no rushing offense. If the 2014 team is no better than the 2012 team, how long will we wait until the team begins to lose confidence. Before they can win the Big10, they have to first win the division, and with competition including OSU, MSU, and PSU (perhaps without their current head coach), that is a challenge.
Oh by the way, looking at Arizona, RichRod seems to be bouncing back with upset wins against Oregon and Cal. We can wait and see how they do against Boston College in the Independence Bowl on New Year's Eve.
Pardon me to those, who feel that I offend the dogma of Michigan Football, but there are better coaches out there, and having no effective running backs and a mediocre inside OL does not lend confidence. Having grown up in AA during the Schembechler era, would Bo stand by and tolerate this kind of performance. Maybe we could bring back Mike Barwis to improve conditioning, since he live less than 15 miles away.
So let's see if Michigan can do better than 8-5 record with a post-season bowl win next year.
Than this Michigan team.
Arizona has an out of nowhere stunning blowout of Oregon on it's resume this year and that is literally it. Their other 3 Pac-12 wins combined for 3 conference wins among them (Utah, Cal, and Colorado). They got torched by their archrival by 37.
Great OC and offensive mind that disguised his liabilities as a head coach while defenses needed to play catch up in the last decade.
The apex of RR's career were the minutes before the 2007 game against Pitt.
Agree. They should have had 10 more points if it wasn't for a missed chip shot FG and the dropped TD pass.
This team blows. There's no sugarcoating it. And I don't think it's the kids' fault - this team is sloppy in all facets of the game and lacks discipline and aggressiveness on both sides of the ball.
We have an AD that micromanages to the point of looking over the coaches' shoulder, an incompetent OC, and players that look lethargic (I miss Barwis) out there.
I'm not quite drunk enough to belt out a "FIRE EVERYONE" yet but I'm close.
Hoke's seat should be warmer, Borges' should be scorching, and Dave Brandon's should be heating up by the minute.
...as well as enraging.
I mean, any team in the country would salivate at this much talent, and yet:
The team is an entire group, but you can't tell me that just because we're young at Center and Guard, that it makes sense for this team to be LUCKY to be a game over .500 on the season.
I'm not calling for anyone's head, b/c it's easy to want Borges gone, but this offense is being run in a highly inefficient manner. Someone needs to account for that.
before Brandon wakes up and admits his mistake.
Thanks to the kids for playing their hearts out this season. Congrats to Gallon. And I look forward to seeing Lewan play on Sundays.
Not even close...
Is this guy serious? He was one of a few 5* RBs if I remember... And he was definitely the best one in the class... So yes, he was close
Football is not like basketball where one guy can take over a game. The key to winning is to suppress your opponents' strengths and attack the weaknesses. WTF do you think all those A-gap blitzes were all season? You think opponents were going to just throw all their hopes on beating Taylor Lewan?
Thing is, Michigan's weakness on D was their D-line and unfortunately K-State had:
1) An efficient hybrid rushing attack that wasn't adequately covered in the Preview or FFFF despite being the bread-and-butter of their offense, and
2) An NFL receiver that unfortunately was just flat-out better than our CBs. Lockett has embarrassed CBs all season.
They pound it on the ground and Lockett just won't stay covered, so the key to beating K-State is to kill the plays early at the LoS. Unfortunately Michigan's D-line is a bad combination of young AND small (the big guys are young and the veterans are small), so this was a battle Mattison could do little about. It's not like blitzing is a magic sauce; it all starts with a D-line push.
On offense. . . freshman QB making first start in a bowl game. They started off well with the short-n'-easy stuff but honestly did anyone think K-State wasn't going to adjust to that? I'm no fan of Borges but the only hope of a win would've been a phenomenal performance from the D, but. . . see above.
Honestly, there's not much to glean from this result except that 2013 just really sucked dirty donkey balls. Due to a variety of unfortunate factors (losing D-line depth and our starting QB for starters, making a ridiculously young team even younger), this was a mismatch that heavily favored K-State. On to 2014 and it can't happen fast enough.
This is a poorly coached team who got worse throughout the year. KSU is an example of a well coached team that got better each game. Did we lose our starting QB for Youngstwon, UConn, MSU, NW, Iowa, Neb? WTF are you talking about? Our DL is bigger than KSU. Stop with these excuses. This is a poorly coached team.
"WTF are you talking about?"
I was talking about K-State. You know, our bowl opponent. Last I checked, my sources indicate that our starting QB was indeed out for that game, which -- again, based on my sources -- forced us to field yet another freshman. I don't think I was being particularly unclear here; I think this is more a case of someone not quite talking about what you want to talk about: We get it, you hate the coaches.
We can have the conversation you so desperately want about how badly our team is coached when we're talking about how badly our team is coached. This thread is about a game the team played yesterday. Which, incidentally, is something I don't think the coaches could do much about. That doesn't necessarily mean they're good; it means they were irrelevant.
This is by no means an attempt to exonerate them for what was a very disappointing season overall. Hell, I was the guy to start the whole Borges = Field Marshal Haig thing; you think I'm a fan of his style? I just happen to talk about other things from time to time.
CB--if you're going to stare in the backfield when the WR you're covering runs by you, the result is getting beat (particularly on the first two TDs). It's one thing to to have Lockett make a play in coverage, it's quite another to have him wide open.
And why is Lockett 1-on-1 on the 3rd TD?
The defense was AWFUL in this game against a very mediocre offense.
"And why is Lockett 1-on-1 on the 3rd TD?"
Because you're only allowed 11 men on the field. They sent four and the whole point with sending Lockett on an out route to the far side was to spread the backfield. The safety to that side was too far inside and slow to react; obviously he was expecting run but I doubt he would've gotten there in time. Mattison gambled on Raymon Taylor holding his own on a short field and lost. It was 2nd and goal; you can't have your safeties selling out on the run to cover one guy.
For that matter:
1) On the first TD, Michigan rushed seven. K-State countered with extra protection; no one got to the QB in time and Lockett broke open.
2) On the second TD, Michigan rushed four; the deep safety had to pick between two receivers that had gotten separation.
3) On the third, K-State sent four receivers out of a single-back look. Michigan rushed four and had everyone else in zone coverage. I'd say Mattison got RPS-ed here.
However, it's not like Mattison kept getting beat by the same play or kept doing the same thing; K-State ran a well-balanced offense featuring three key ball handlers out of the same looks.
I know everyone around here wants to see Mattison double-cover both wideouts while blitzing eight and keeping 3 LBs in zone coverage but that just doesn't happen. You gotta pick your matchups and K-State had enough weapons to spread Michigan thin. That's aggravating but I don't see any "FIRE ******" moments to be had here. Just impatience to see Peppers take the field.