Home
we had subs it was crazy

Primary links

  • About
    • $upport (lol)
    • Ethics
    • FAQ
    • Privacy Policy
  • Contact
  • MGoStore
  • MGoBoard
    • MGoBoard FAQ
    • Ticket spreadsheet
    • Michigan bar locator
    • Moderator Action Sticky
  • Useful Stuff
    • Depth Chart By Class
    • Unofficial Two Deep
    • 2013 Offer Board
    • Crude Bug Tracking System
    • Third Down Stats
    • Diaries, Windows Live Writer, And You
    • Michigan Future Schedules
    • User-Curated HOF
    • 2013 Recruiting Board
    • Where To Eat In Ann Arbor
Home

Navigation

  • Forums
  • Recent posts

User login

  • Create new account
  • Request new password

MGoElsewhere

  • @MGoBlog (Brian)
  • @aceanbender
  • @TomVH (Tom)
  • RSS Feed
  • iPhone App
  • Facebook profile
  • MGoKindle Store
  • mgo.licio.us
  • Brian @ TSB [Archive]
  • Brian @ AOL [Archive]
  • Sour Salty Bitter Sweet

Michigan Blogs

  • Big House Blog
  • Burgeoning Wolverine Star
  • Genuinely Sarcastic
  • Go Blue Michigan Wolverine
  • Holdin' The Rope
  • MGoFootball
  • MVictors
  • Maize 'n' Blue Nation
  • Maize 'n' Brew
  • Maize And Go Blue
  • Michigan Hockey Net
  • The Blog That Yost Built
  • The Hoover Street Rag
  • The M Block
  • The M Zone
  • The Wolverine Blog
  • Touch The Banner
  • UMGoBlog
  • UMHoops
  • UMTailgate
  • Wolverine Liberation Army

M On The Net

  • mgovideo
  • MGoBlue.com
  • Mike DeSimone
  • Recruiting Planet
  • The Wolverine
  • Go Blue Wolverine
  • Winged Helmet
  • UMGoBlue.com
  • MaizeRage.org
  • Puckhead
  • The M Den
  • True Blue Fan Forum

Big Ten Blogs

  • Illinois
    • A Lion Eye
    • Hail To The Orange
    • Illinois Baseball Report
    • Illinois Loyalty
  • Indiana
    • Inside The Hall
    • The Crimson Quarry
  • Iowa
    • Black Heart, Gold Pants
    • Fight For Iowa
  • Michigan State
    • The Only Colors
  • Minnesota
    • GopherHole.com
    • The Daily Gopher
    • I'm In Love With A Fringe Bowl Team
    • TNABACG
  • Nebraska
    • Big Red Network
    • Corn Nation
    • Husker Mike's Blasphemy
    • Husker Gameday
  • Northwestern
    • Sippin' On Purple
    • Lake The Posts
  • Notre Dame
    • The House Rock Built
    • One Foot Down
  • Ohio State
    • Eleven Warriors
    • Buckeye Commentary
    • Men of the Scarlet and Gray
    • Our Honor Defend
    • The Buckeye Nine
  • Penn State
    • Slow States
    • Black Shoe Diaries
    • Happy Valley Hardball
    • Penn State Clips
    • Linebacker U
    • Nittany White Out
  • Purdue
    • Boiled Sports
    • Hammer and Rails
  • Wisconsin
    • Bruce Ciskie

Links of Note

  • Baseball
    • Big Ten Hardball
    • College Baseball Today
    • The Baseball Zealot
    • The College Baseball Blog
  • Basketball
    • Ken Pomeroy
    • Basketball Prospectus
    • Midmajority
  • College Hockey
    • Chris Heisenberg
    • College Hockey Stats
    • Inside College Hockey
    • Michigan College Hockey
    • Hockey's Future
    • Sioux Sports
    • USCHO
    • Western College Hockey
    • CCHA
      • LSSU Hockey
      • Bronco Hockey Blog
  • Football
    • Smart Football
    • Every Day Should Be Saturday
    • Doctor Saturday
    • CFB Stats
    • Harold Stassen
    • NCAA D-I Stats Page
    • The Wizard Of Odds
  • General
    • Sports Central
  • Local Interest
    • The Ann Arbor Chronicle
    • Arborwiki
    • Arbor Update
    • Teeter Talk
    • Vacuum
  • Teams Of The D
    • Lions
      • Pride of Detroit
      • Fire Millen
    • Pistons
      • Detroit Bad Boys
      • Need4Sheed
    • Tigers
      • Roar Of The Tigers
      • The Detroit Tigers Weblog
      • The Daily Fungo
    • Red Wings
      • On The Wings
      • Behind The Jersey
      • Winging It In Motown
    • Michigan Sports Forum

Archive

  • May 2013 (42)
  • April 2013 (94)
  • March 2013 (104)
  • February 2013 (81)
  • January 2013 (93)
  • December 2012 (74)
  • November 2012 (142)
  • October 2012 (143)
  • September 2012 (107)
  • August 2012 (103)
  •  
  • 1 of 11
  • ››

Get Yer Tickets

Football Display Case

NFL Watches

Follow your favorite team with localtv-satellite.com: Click Here.

Site Search

Diaries

  • New
  • Popular
  • Hot
  • OT - Kentucky Derby 2012
    k.o.k.Law - 2 weeks ago
  • Observations on the National Championship Game
    Paps - 2 weeks ago
  • Recalling My First Experiences With MGoCulture
    LSAClassOf2000 - 2 weeks ago
  • 2013 NFL Draft Recap: B1G Team Comparisons
    UMgradMSUdad - 2 weeks ago
  • The Blockhams in "TIE YOUR LACES"
    Six Zero - 3 weeks ago
  • ‹‹
  • 2 of 4
  • ››
more
  • Big Ten Recruiting Rankings 5-15-13
    Ace - 1,395 views
  • Future Non-Conference Opponent Recruiting Watch
    EGD - 593 views
  • Way Too Late B1G Men's Basketball Scheduling Idea
    BeileinBuddy - 393 views
  • More Milford Men Than Michigan Men: Comparing the 11-12 and 12-13 Hockey Teams
    MGoBlueline - 232 views
  • Big Ten Recruiting Rankings 5-15-13
    Ace - 51 comments
  • Future Non-Conference Opponent Recruiting Watch
    EGD - 15 comments
  • The Blockhams in "HOCKEY HANGOVER"
    Six Zero - 13 comments
  • More Milford Men Than Michigan Men: Comparing the 11-12 and 12-13 Hockey Teams
    MGoBlueline - 2 comments
  • Way Too Late B1G Men's Basketball Scheduling Idea
    BeileinBuddy - 2 comments

MGoBoard

  • New
  • Recent
  • Hot
  • OT: Caption Contest - Preakness Fan
    14 replies
  • OT: Saturday Night Drinking/Open/Tigers Thread
    46 replies
  • B1G Network Helmet Bracket
    32 replies
  • Steve Everitt rips Notre Dame!
    45 replies
  • OT: IIHF Semifinal US vs Switzerland Open Thread
    3 replies
  • OT- happy World Whisk(e)y day everyone!
    44 replies
  • Michigan Baseball vs Nebraska on BTN Open Thread
    43 replies
  • Michigan Women's Tennis Swept by UCLA
    4 replies
  • OT: Preakness Stakes
    26 replies
  • M Softball hosting Cal in Regional - 5/18
    21 replies
  • OT: Red Wings @ Hawks Game 2 Open Thread
    113 replies
  • Marvin Robinson to FSU
    50 replies
  • OT: Ron English & Mike Hart to jump out of a plane for new EMU bathrooms
    38 replies
  • OT: ESPN Mag/Insider special $5/Year
    25 replies
  • BBall year in review Deleted...
    10 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 7
  • ››
  • OT: Ron English & Mike Hart to jump out of a plane for new EMU bathrooms
    38 replies
  • OT: Saturday Night Drinking/Open/Tigers Thread
    46 replies
  • OT: ESPN Mag/Insider special $5/Year
    25 replies
  • OT- happy World Whisk(e)y day everyone!
    44 replies
  • OT: Caption Contest - Preakness Fan
    14 replies
  • B1G Network Helmet Bracket
    32 replies
  • OT: IIHF Semifinal US vs Switzerland Open Thread
    3 replies
  • Steve Everitt rips Notre Dame!
    45 replies
  • Siva Admits Trey Burke's Title Game Block Was Clean
    62 replies
  • Softball Open Thread 7pm vs Valpo ESPN3
    36 replies
  • Michigan Baseball vs Nebraska on BTN Open Thread
    43 replies
  • Michigan Women's Tennis Swept by UCLA
    4 replies
  • BBall year in review Deleted...
    10 replies
  • OT: Red Wings @ Hawks Game 2 Open Thread
    113 replies
  • OT: Preakness Stakes
    26 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 7
  • ››
  • OT: Red Wings @ Ducks Game 7 Open Thread
    229 replies
  • OT: Red Wings vs. Blackhawks Open Thread
    201 replies
  • Shane Morris to wear the famed #7 jersey, J.J. McGrath #46
    175 replies
  • Jabrill Peppers Announcement Date Set
    169 replies
  • Brady Hoke Calls Notre Dame A Chicken
    163 replies
  • UM 2014 Conf schedule football
    123 replies
  • Brandon on Uniformzzz
    119 replies
  • OT: Red Wings @ Hawks Game 2 Open Thread
    113 replies
  • Notre Dame's Nix fires back at Coach Hoke
    110 replies
  • GoBlueWolverine's Dre Barthwell: Marvin Robinson to leave Michigan
    96 replies
  • Alex Bars to Notre Dame
    96 replies
  • Sparty losing recruits to the rap game
    95 replies
  • PSU about to get blasted again by SI investigative report
    88 replies
  • Michigan has #1 recruiting class on ESPN now.
    73 replies
  • OT: Advice on moving to Ann Arbor
    72 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 7
  • ››

mgo.licio.us

  • Big Ten football procrastinates on parity-based scheduling, and nothing ever changes

    the just released schedules were a flat-out statement that the B10 doesn't believe SOS will matter in playoff selection

    1 comments
  • Michigan's Glenn Robinson III, Mitch McGary ranked inside top 20 on ESPN's 2014 draft board

    but I thought that draft was supposed to be incredibly loaded?

    1 comments
  • Tim Hardaway Jr. turning heads, viewed as a first-rounder by some teams, analyst says

    If you're gonna go please be in the first round.

    0 comments
  • Michigan-Ohio State once, Indiana-Purdue once? The Big Ten has to protect its hoops rivalries

    another delightful side effect of a 14 team conference

    0 comments
  • Beilein on transfers: All should have to sit a year, regardless of situation

    I disagree.

    0 comments
  • Julie Hermann takes over as Rutgers AD, won't try to spend like Michigan

    GOOD PLAN

    1 comments
  • Jay Harris says no to Michigan State, decides to become a rapper

    hahahahaha

    0 comments
  • The Difference Between A Good Fan And A Bad Fan

    thoughtful piece from Jacobi on middle finger lady

    3 comments
  • Michigan's rising recruiting profile exciting John Beilein, who remains true to his scouting form

    Their high school coaches and AAU coaches have probably a better appreciation of Michigan than maybe they had before," Beilein said. "It's a tough balance right now. Tim Hardaway and Trey Burke weren't really high-profile players, nor was Darius Morris, and all were high-profile players. "We're still looking at 'who is the best fit.' "

    0 comments
  • Charles Barkley discusses Michael Jordan, Dream Team and more - NBA - Jack McCallum - SI.com

    "When I call somebody a midget, clearly I'm not trying to insult f---ing midgets. I'm just using basketball terminology."

    0 comments
  • Why does the NFL make for such bad media?

    robots

    0 comments
  • Pictured: Detroit's Robocop Statue nears completion date

    elsewhere in awesome things kickstarter made happen

    0 comments
  • Spectacular images of the madness that was the first FA Cup final

    And you think you're crowded at Michigan Stadium

    0 comments
  • Bear Vs. Monkey Bicycle Race Ends With Bear Eating Monkey

    IMPORTANT: Ondre Pipkins not involved.

    11 comments
  • Damon Bullock Has the Greatest Vine Account of All Time

    this is amazing

    7 comments

JT Floyd's Ankle: Probably Not So Good

By Brian — November 2nd, 2010 at 7:41 PM — 170 comments
Filed under:
  • injuries
  • jt floyd
  • rumormongering is what the internets are for
  • angry michigan BLANK hating god

never_forget-500

out of date

HAI GUYS I BET YOU LIKE GOOD NEWS. Troy Woolfolk's twitter:

Things just got worse for Michigan fans. Can't elaborate that's all I'm saying.

UMGoBlog's got a rumor that this is in reference to JT Floyd's ankle, supposedly in a nonfunctional state after practice today. Tom got an independently sourced email saying the same thing. Player on team saying bad news + two different sources with identical stories about what that bad news is == 99% true e-rumor.

So JT Floyd is probably done for the year. One of three freshman will start opposite James Rogers. I'm working my way through the Penn State game tape and am not sure how much this actually hurts but it's not good. Your available non-freshman cornerback on the roster is James Rogers. That is all.

UPDATE: Woolfolk is hurriedly backtracking, which may be CYA but may not. Downgrade your likelihood somewhat here. I probably wouldn't have posted this without that third bit but the two standing are melding with other stuff around the internets and this is still likely to be true.

UPDATE II: So the "out for year" bit seems unknown. Definitely out for Saturday, though.

  • Login or register to post comments

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:24 AM | I will assume you are a valid source of information (Score:1)
TennBlue
TennBlue's picture
Joined: 10/12/2010
MGoPoints: 3319

and as such will thank you for your information rather than attemping to kill the bearer of bad news.

Thank you.

  • Login or register to post comments
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:32 AM | Believe me I hope it is not (Score:1)
MichiganStudent
MichiganStudent's picture
Joined: 08/27/2008
MGoPoints: 2788

Believe me I hope it is not true as well. Although the confirmation provides me little hope (I truly hope that my source is misinformed and I'll gladly take the neg bang). This just sucks completely. 

If anyone cares about my sources, they are people at every practice (I've usually been pretty darn reliable over the years). He saw it happen, said it was not on a tackling drill (more of bumping and brief blocking). 

  • Login or register to post comments
November 3rd, 2010 at 1:02 PM | Actually torn ligament, but (Score:1)
lager86
lager86's picture
Joined: 01/30/2009
MGoPoints: 231

Actually torn ligament, but same result.  Done for the year.

lager86

  • Login or register to post comments
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:32 AM | I don't care, I can't feel (Score:1)
HAIL-YEA
Joined: 07/15/2009
MGoPoints: 1010

anything anyway....we made Ben Chappel look like Peyton Manning. How much worse could it get?  I mean really

How can you kill that which has no life

  • Login or register to post comments
November 3rd, 2010 at 1:42 AM | Summary (Score:1)
smwilliams
smwilliams's picture
Joined: 08/20/2010
MGoPoints: 1760

From what I gathered in Turner's case he was behind such All Big-10 players as James Rogers and JT Floyd on the depth chart. With credible info gleaned from this board that he was really out of shape, it's not a surprise he washed out.

Dorsey was unfortunate. I could concede that Rodriguez maybe could've gone after somebody he knew would qualify, but everybody here was fairly excited when he committed. I'm sure Rodriguez felt the same way.

Woolfolk went down to AMSHG.

Floyd was benched last year for poor performance and somehow ended up as our #1 CB. He still suffered AMSHG'S wrath.

Warren left early for reasons unknown but most likely because pundits were saying he'd be a late 1st day pick.

Emilien was behind Cam Gordon and a walk-on.

Cissoko turned to a life of crime and wasn't that good to begin with considering the hurting Michael Floyd put on him last year.

Stevie Brown graduated.

Imagine if Ohio State's DLine or Wisconsin's Linebackers or Iowa's secondary suffered the same fate. Very few college teams can go 3 deep anymore. That's 8 guys expected to fill the depth chart that didn't. It isn't anybody's fault.



 

  • Login or register to post comments
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:15 AM | Fault 1: After a year ('05) (Score:1)
Seth
Seth's picture
Joined: 10/14/2008
MGoPoints: 48268

Fault 1: After a year ('05) in which our entire DB haul was Johnny Sears and Chris Richards, and DBs were hit so hard that the Angry ____ Hating God meme was invented for our safety situation, we got zero defensive backs in 2006. We needed like four. If two were 5th year seniors today, that would have helped. Not fixed, but helped. Mouton was a linebacker, and this was known to recruiters. Steve Brown ended up being a linebacker too, though I suspect Gibsons coaching led to him being a bigger bust at FS than he need have been.

Fault 2: In 2007 we got Donovan, Williams, and Woolfolk, plus Artis Chambers if you want to count him. Williams was a 4-star to the sites, but other schools were staying away from him - maybe they knew something. Warren was a big get. Woolfolk was a legacy, and we are supremely lucky he grew from 4.5 to 4.3 speed. Still, this is after two years in a row of zero CBs and one safety, and our haul is one 5-star guy, a slow and diminuative Brandon Harrison-like safety, and a legacy.

Fault 3: By 2008 Carr and RR both should have known the situation was going to be dire at the DB positions. Lloyd had Cissoko and Brandon Smith coming: a mite, and another obvious linebacker. RR added Floyd, but he was otherwise occupied with offensive recruiting, where he created a pipeline to Pahokee out of thin air, added the two best offensive linemen of a class that already had four in it, filled the running back and receivers corps (Shaw and Roundtree, our best RB and WR, respectively, were won away at the last minute), and chased the No. 1 recruit in the nation around until finally losing that battle. Had RR spent some of that time scouting and signing a few more cornerbacks and the obvious obvious obvious need by that point of a deep safety...

Fault 4: 2009 was a repeat of 2007 except more egregious. He got Turner, which yay, but then after him....uh....Witty, who didn't make it to campus and it seems the staff hardly cared about that because Witty was part of landing Denard Robinson, and Vlad, who was a project because of a major injury that we weren't sure he could ever recover from. RR had 3-9 hanging around his neck, but as opposed to '08 when he had a month in a half to add, this was a full recruiting class. And he got just Turner and Emilien.

Fault 5: Losing Turner, Emilien, and Warren. This is on those guys of course, but I do think the head coach has something to do with how a kid turns out. Not everything, but something. What was it that Turner needed to get motivated? 4.5 star cornerbacks seldom bust out. He was a bit big as he filled out, but so was Marlin. This is all speculation, but I still feel like RR rewards playing time to the guys who practice harder, over the guys who are actually better, and since Turner wasn't one of those guys, well, balls -- or as Rich says, the door's unlocked from the inside. Emilien, well, I thought it was simply his knee not ever coming back, and used as evidence him getting lapped by Teric Jones in the Spring Game, but then some observers told me that was a different injury hampering him and that Vlad had his speed back. He was supposedly a really hard worker too -- I'm sticking with his [total lack of] speed being the issue, but if not, that really raises a WTH thing with me. Warren: what can you do, really, except go up to him and say "Don, you have the rest of your life to be an NFL player, but one chance left to really do something for your school. I need you. Your team needs you. This program needs you." I don't think RR does that for anyone, and I don't think Warren ever really liked the new regime, and I think that contributed to him departing early. That and the NFL collective bargaining agreement that meant being a 3rd round guy this year could be a big money difference from being a 2nd round guy next year.

Fault 6: Gibson. One thing we haven't seen is defensive back progression. The biggest leap anyone has taken since 2008 is Steve Brown, when he went to linebacker. Of the meager leftovers, name all defensive backs who have seen a major year-to-year progression:

  1. Troy Woolfolk

Avery, Talbott, Christian, these guys are true freshmen. But "don't evacuate a zone" might be something that's teachable over, I dunno, say a few months. Cissoko might have been all Cissoko's problem, but I remember him making more mistakes as he went on. J.T. Floyd has limited ability, but he has regressed significantly this year, particularly in his tackling, which used to be pretty solid (it was his speed that made him bad). The dude is probably one of the hardest workers on the team, but I don't see his work paying off. Steve Brown could never get coverage. Mike Williams was lost ever time he was out there. Cam takes bad angles, Kovacs takes bad angles, Rogers takes bad angles...we can't really know if coaching sucks back there because there's nobody who's been around long enough to be coached. But I feel like there should be better.

Fault 7: Dorsey. How does Sean Parker end up at Washington? Because RR was pursuing a commitment from a guy who never could have gone to Michigan. I guess there's more to the story than that, especially for Parker, but I think it should be part of the narrative.

(Blogger alias: "Misopogon") This team is under construction. We thank you for your patience.

  • Login or register to post comments
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:07 PM | Point (Score:1)
smwilliams
smwilliams's picture
Joined: 08/20/2010
MGoPoints: 1760

Points taken and a very well-reasoned rebuttal. '09 does look particularly damning.

I'm still of the opinion, however, that those '09 guys would've been either RS Freshmen or Sophomores and might have the same issues as our current guys.

Honestly, there are so many issues on the defensive side of the ball it's like 2 guys staring at a collapsed building saying "oh look, the pipes are rusted through."



 

  • Login or register to post comments
November 3rd, 2010 at 1:22 PM | wow (Score:1)
los barcos
los barcos's picture
Joined: 03/27/2009
MGoPoints: 214

nice write up mispogen. good summary of where we're at today, its too bad its buried in a page with 2000 responses

  • Login or register to post comments
November 3rd, 2010 at 8:43 PM | I feel like this may deserve (Score:1)
Vasav
Vasav's picture
Joined: 12/13/2009
MGoPoints: 2837

I feel like this may deserve it's own thread

  • Login or register to post comments
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:40 AM | If JT Turner had managed to summon the maturity to stay (Score:1)
Don
Don's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 19190

he would be seeing playing time very soon. Kind of ironic.


  • Login or register to post comments
November 3rd, 2010 at 9:06 AM | Send the house !!! Go Blue !!! (Score:1)
UMMAN83
UMMAN83's picture
Joined: 11/26/2009
MGoPoints: 979

Go Blue

Go Blue !!!

Dave Brandon: Detailed and thorough investigation proves that Freep report was intentionally misleading.

  • Login or register to post comments
November 3rd, 2010 at 9:07 AM | DAMN IT (Score:1)
beenplumb
beenplumb's picture
Joined: 10/15/2010
MGoPoints: 847

I tried to find a recording on youtube of the old SNL skit "Shirt in a Can" so I could take a still frame of Tim Meadow's enraged face when he spills pie on his shirt and yells "DAMN IT!". Alas, no success.

@beenplumb

procsqlrunning.tumblr.com

  • Login or register to post comments
November 3rd, 2010 at 9:42 AM | Can we all agree now that (Score:1)
tlh908
tlh908's picture
Joined: 09/25/2010
MGoPoints: 1125

Can we all agree now that Saturday's D is gonna be bad.  That way when I wake up on Sunday it isn't news to anybody and there won't be the same post from the previous 3 weeks.  We knew what we had at the start of the season, so why is it news when those expectations are met?

  • Login or register to post comments
November 3rd, 2010 at 9:54 AM | Is this team ever going (Score:1)
Bobby Boucher
Bobby Boucher's picture
Joined: 05/02/2009
MGoPoints: 668

Is this team ever going to catch a break??

  • Login or register to post comments
November 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 AM | Picture above (Score:1)
Denarded16
Joined: 10/11/2010
MGoPoints: 64

Just think if the guys pictured above would have stayed/panned out here.....Warren, JT and CIssoko were all 5 star players and Dorsey was a 4 star on rivals but espn had him as a top 10 I think. How nice would that have been!

  • Login or register to post comments
November 3rd, 2010 at 10:28 AM | Picture above (Score:1)
Denarded16
Joined: 10/11/2010
MGoPoints: 64

Just think if the guys pictured above would have stayed/panned out here.....Warren, JT and CIssoko were all 5 star players and Dorsey was a 4 star on rivals but espn had him as a top 10 I think. How nice would that have been!

  • Login or register to post comments
November 3rd, 2010 at 2:34 PM | sounds officially official (Score:1)
korhashameaux
Joined: 10/18/2010
MGoPoints: 9

ESPN is reporting that he's definitely out for the year, and could be out through spring practice next year.  Ouch.  Nursing an injury all offseason can't be good for a player's overall development.

  • Login or register to post comments
  • « first
  • ‹ previous
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
Powered by Pressflow, an open source content management system
Theme provided by Roopletheme; sidebars adapted from Chris Murphy.