Jim Hackett Press Conference 12-2-14 Comment Count

Adam Schnepp

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“Today I informed Brady Hoke that he will not be returning as our football coach next year. I had mentioned to all of you a couple of weeks ago that we would be evaluating his status at the end of the season and that's what today's announcement is about, so my primary intent today is to do this with deep respect for Brady, his family, the coaches, and all of those associated with our football program, and it is because of their contributions to the University of Michigan.
“This was not an easy decision. You see, I believe the longevity of our best football coaches are tied to the intersection of the performance or measure of wins and losses with the test and expression of values that underscore their program and everywhere I go there is zero question about Brady's values, and I mentioned this trait to you two weeks ago. Brady’s peers, both active and retired coaches, really respect him and his players love playing for him. He has done a great job of molding these young men and focusing them on success in the classroom and in the community. He's really earned the respect of all as being a value-centered coach. We need more men like him in sport today.
“So, you might ask how do you reconcile the tension between results and values? Well, one could also make the argument that we have a very young team and we’re about to pivot next year into being an extraordinary team. It has to do with making sure then that Brady has received adequate time to exhibit that arc of improvement that would come from his effort and I believe that Brady had enough time to produce results and they're just not there today, therefore I believe it's time to make this transition. I don't plan on sharing more of Brady's performance review or assessment frankly because I believe the dignity of this conversation is for him only. My next focus is to make sure that this exit for Brady is handled in a first-class way with heightened consideration for not only Brady himself but his staff and his family. Brady’s a hero. He's been an employee at our university for over 12 years.

“So what's next? Well, I plan on starting the search for his replacement immediately. We want to build on what's been established by Brady. My message to the student-athletes was that we’ll work to put them in the best position to win and reinforce that their daily effort is contributing toward being champions. The criteria for our future coach is defined in winning with the shared values of the University of Michigan. I ask for your patience with this search process. It's not fair for me to comment on potential candidates today or the institutions or organizations they currently may be employed by. I can't compromise the integrity of our search process by commenting prematurely until we have that new coach ready to go.

“I believe that the head coach of Michigan football is one of the finest jobs in American sports today and we will have great options. The University of Michigan remains one of the top programs in the country. Now, it's true that the pendulum has swung into a negative. However, one truth in physics is that as a pendulum is in the negative state it's always building energy for its eventual move back to the positive arc. My objective is to find the right coach for the University of Michigan; an individual who will recruit the best student-athletes and puts them in a position to win in the classroom, on the field, and in the community. This is what makes Michigan world-class and we're going to support that with great enthusiasm. Now, in the interim I've asked Mike DeBord, who's in the athletic department, to oversee the day-to-day aspects of the football program as a sport administrator until a new head coach is hired. Mike will not be a candidate for that job. So thank you. I'll be happy to take a few questions right now.”

I know that you don't want to divulge specifics of your meeting, but can you at least characterize for us the tenor of the meeting with Brady?

“Yeah, I think that first of all I can’t emphasize [enough] what an authentic and real person, so what you see is what you get so when you have a discussion like this it's a very straightforward and deliberate discussion. We took a lot of time together. I was not going to make this a discussion just about wins and losses, and so I wanted him to understand what I really appreciated about him and where I had said that he mastered certain parts of coaching. He needs to leave understanding that others should learn from him in some areas and of course, then, this is the part I’m not going to get into is what were the areas that we didn’t see the mastery in and I candidly said I wished I’d had more time with him. I would have liked to have had a shot at helping him with that.”

[After THE JUMP: the obliteration of the ‘Michigan Man’ meme]

With the past two coaching searches going the way that they have, how important is it this time to get it right for the University of Michigan?

“Well, I think you answered your own question. I think that the choices about people is a difficult thing. In business, where I have all the experience, there’s no guarantees, but you can bet on a process that helps reduce that risk and so I describe it as a highly divergent exercise in the beginning so we can make sure we see the landscape and we’re going to work quickly to narrow the question, and I have a lot of confidence that that process will yield a great answer.”

In your search for the next coach, one, are you exclusively conducting the search, no search committee of any type or advisors?

“I’ve devised a process and there’ll be a head-hunting firm that’s going to help me. I’ll have that news soon. Part of the choice there, by the way, is to find somebody I don’t have to spend a lot of time bringing up speed on what Michigan’s all about, and then the President’s asked me to make this decision.”

The parameters as far as what you’re looking for as far as experience in college, in the NFL, head coaching experience, money, age, all of those?

“Yeah. The way I’d answer that is that’s the divergent part of the exercise. We’re looking at the best out there and I think probably what’s of value is that we start to come to conclusions about that we’re going to tell you more.”

At any point did you think about giving coach Hoke another year, and at what point did you make your final decision that it was time for him to leave?

“Yeah, that’s a great question because I want to emphasize with the young people watching me today that when you make a decision to change somebody’s life you better take the time to think about it, and in this case I did take the time. I was very deliberate about it, and I’ve said it’s like a ceremony. That’s why I said It’s a solemn ceremony. We have ceremonies in our lives that happen every year, birthdays and Thanksgiving, and why do we keep coming to them when they’re like they were the last time? It’s because in a ritual way it’s easy for us to identify with what to expect to have happen, so I think coaching assessments, especially for these long-term agreements, need to have that very deliberate ceremony. So you don’t want to prematurely make up your mind. You’re not kind of guessing every day where you are, and you’re building frameworks that are helping inform you about where the answer lies. Let me also point out that in these frameworks what you find is these tensions that are seemingly kind of in opposition or paradoxical, because we should be writing about what kind of great program he built in terms of the values but we didn’t have the results on the field. That’s the tension, and in trying to find out why did that happen that’s where I started to come to the conclusion. So I made the decision just Sunday night, and that’s when I decided where I was going to go. I called the President and the next person was Brady today.”

Going back to what you said a little while ago, you said that you don’t want to have to bring someone up to speed on what UofM football is in regards to the head coaching search. Does that mean you’re leaning toward someone who has strong ties to the football program?

“I was talking about the search firm, and the type of search firm I’m picking is someone who knows us because you’re paying for that consulting time and you want to make sure that money’s directed toward finding the coach, not me teaching them about Michigan.”

So you’re talking about the search firm.

“Yeah.”

How patient do you think you have to be or are willing to be in bringing in the right coach? Are you prepared to wait until sometime in January?

“That’s a great question, and I would tell you again in business we have a thing called a ‘walk-away,’ which means at what point can’t you hang in there because you’re going to jeopardize other things of value? So we’re building what we call swim-lane charts that show candidates’ time frames for their availability. They may be in bowl games. They may be…you know, wherever they are in their status, and we compare that against our swim lane. Where are we in trying to get our recruiting, to get our practice schedule started and so I’m drawing some conclusions about when we can’t take more risk at Michigan. But with that said, I want you to be patient because it’s a bit of trade here is if you get an answer quickly and you could wait a little longer and you believe you upgraded you might be willing to take that risk, so that’s part of the process that I’m mapping out.”

Have you decided in your own mind what that breakoff point is?

“Oh, yeah. I have that.”

And when is that time?

“Well, I’m not going to disclose that. That changes all the trading.”

Did you speak with the players at the meeting at all?

“Yeah, thanks for bringing that up. I did meet with the players at 3 o’clock today, and I had a short moment with them because it was really Brady’s time and I’m going to come back and see them soon, and we’re going to have more of an open discussion about what they’re concerned about with the next coach. What are the things they want to see me address? Even the things they may disagree with about this decision. I’m a very open guy like that, and I would tell you that Saturday I couldn’t remember a more poignant moment than when our quarterback went over and touched the head of the injured quarterback. It underscored for me what I’m telling you about, [which] is where does that leadership for that kind of sportsmanship come from? It came from our head coach.”

There were a couple of assistants with multi-year contracts, Doug Nussmeier and Greg Mattison, and the rest of the staff. What is the status of those individuals?

“That’s a good question. So the nature of football, as I’m learning, is that there are agreements for head coaches and some agreements for the coordinators, and then the other assistants have, I guess, shorter horizons. So our people are meeting with all of them today to explain how we’d like to handle them, and one of the messages we’re going to give them is that we’d like to have our new coach have the right to interview them. I don’t want them to have to go through two disappointments, so I don’t want to say that they’re for sure a part of the next administration, so to speak, but in the case of the two that you mentioned we have long-term agreements with them and we plan to honor those either if they leave or if they stay.”

You said earlier that the search for the new coach is defined by winning and somebody who shares the values of the University of Michigan. Can you speak to if that specifically means someone who was a “Michigan Man,” because we seem to hear that an awful lot.

“Yeah, I want to get rid of the word ‘Michigan Man.’ Maybe today you could write about that. There’s three reasons. One is we live in a world where no business or anything would talk about just men in it. Second, the guy who said that, Bo Schembechler, one of my mentors and heroes, said it when he was being challenged about a coach being recruited somewhere else and he meant he wanted the person who was at Michigan to be the coach. The third thing, though, if you let it stand for what it’s supposed to mean here’s what it means: if you cut open the soul of the people who are ‘Michigan Men,’ so to speak, you find first selflessness. This was a thing that said- this is a point about how we stand for the team first. The second thing is the ability to win and be competitive. The competitive spirit in my lifetime and with others that you see around here that played, we knew that we had to work really hard. It wasn’t arrogance. It was about being competitive. The third thing is that we want to continue the legacy of what’s been great from a values standpoint, that this place does not need to cut corners to win and you’ve got a lot of pride in the fact that [if] you come here you know you’re signing up to be the best in the world without any kind of shenanigans going on. So thank you very much. I look forward to updating you.”

Comments

HANCOCK

December 3rd, 2014 at 9:24 AM ^

yeah, he is just sort of a try hard. he is always talking about how the big ten sucks and the lions suck and this and that. its just lame.

 

its easy to be negative. of course the big ten sucks. it doesnt take a genius to see that (although sharp will act like he is a genius for acknowledging the struggles of the big ten). same with the lions.

 

its funny how the tigers were awful for years, but the second they are a legit team, sharp follows them non-stop. lol the guy is a joke

 

 

TreyBurkeHeroMode

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:29 AM ^

He's a columnist, not a reporter. As a former reporter, there's a substantive difference between the two jobs.

(And yes, he's terrible. But as a 17-year veteran of media relations in Detroit, we should be so lucky to have Sharp be the worst ever. That's a high bar to clear.)

Mo Better Blues

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:24 AM ^

Now, I'm not a reporter, so it's not my job to listen quite as closely as it is Sharp's, but in his defense, I had the same moment where I went, 'Snuh...? Whaddoya mean you don't wanna waste time bringing them up to speed?!?!'. But we couldn't have been the only ones. There's such precious little information contained in many of these pro forma pressers that you're straining to hear news, and when you're familiar with the woes of the program, and you remember the "high points" of DB's presser with Hoke ("we didn't have to teach him the words to The Victors, he knows his way around campus...", etc., etc.) it *definitely* sounded like that. When he clarified himself, I was very relieved.

Hackett handled himself and this part of the process about as well as I could have hoped, and with a high level of respect and dignity, and when asked what he's now going to be looking for, he basically said "a guy who wins--without corner-cutting and scandal", which is the kind of high-level goal he should set. No frills. No "somebody who understands Michigan culture", no "somebody who loves the school as much as Brady Hoke", etc. -- just a guy who can win and win the right way. 

Works for me.

MI Expat NY

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:29 AM ^

I was sort of in between the two interpretations.  I thought Hackett was saying he wanted the search firm to bring coaches up to speed on what would be expected of a Michigan coach.  Not that the coach had to be a guy with connections to Michigan, but he had to understand that Michigan has a history of success, winning with integrity, etc.  

 

Mo Better Blues

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:47 AM ^

What I took away, upon the clarification, was that he wanted the *searchers* to know what Michigan was all about from Go, (read: I'm either hiring the same headhunting firm we've worked with in past searches--who already has "the brief", so to speak--or I'm hiring a firm led by a Michigan graduate with more than a passing familiarity with what this program means to us and what it stands for), so they don't waste valuable time coming back to him with extremes like, "what about Lane Kiffin or Bobby Petrino?"--guys who may well be 'winners', but whose very morality/backstory would almost certainly clash with Michigan's values.

The_Mad Hatter

December 3rd, 2014 at 9:23 AM ^

handled that about as well as could be expected.  He seems to understand the importance of this next hire and I have no doubt that he'll make the decision that he feels is best for the University.  Unlike DB who picked the best coach for DB, and not for Michigan.

Personally, I think he should just get Les, John, and Jim all in the same room.  Give each of them the weapon of their choosing, and the last man standing is the new coach.

white_pony_rocks

December 3rd, 2014 at 9:37 AM ^

I can see it now how it would play out (with swords of course), jim and john would immediately gang up on les, then with him out of the way, they would turn to each other.  John would say something cheesy like"i could never harm my own brother" and lay down his sword.  at that point jim would stab john through the heart with his sword, and then laugh maniacally "its mine, its all mine, muahhahahaha"

maizenbluenc

December 3rd, 2014 at 9:25 AM ^

"I wanted him to understand what I really appreciated about him and where I had said that he mastered certain parts of coaching. He needs to leave understanding that others should learn from him in some areas and of course, then, this is the part I’m not going to get into is what were the areas that we didn’t see the mastery in and I candidly said I wished I’d had more time with him. I would have liked to have had a shot at helping him with that."

You Only Live Twice

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:53 AM ^

Most the the presser gave me chills while driving home yesterday but was blown away by Hackett's candid statement of regret, that he had to preside over the firing of the man but was not around the previous few years when he could have helped him.  Someone like this in a leadership position should be a given but many times it is not... someone who recognizes that the #1 rule is developing people.  If you have direct reports and they are not making progress that is on the person at the top.  We'll never know what might have been without Brandon.

AFWolverine

December 3rd, 2014 at 9:29 AM ^

Thanks for posting, Adam. I didn't, and probably won't get a chance to actually watch the presser so I appreciate you posting the transcription.

As many have already stated, it does seem like Hackett has a phenomenal hold on who embodies The Michigan Difference, and will select the best candidate from that field.

Also as it's been pointed out, Jim Harbaugh truly seems to be the ideal candidate as he "gets" all of what Hackett is searching for, and maybe by summertime, would also help him find a permanent AD. I know that has been discussed, but I don't think it's been debunked as a possibility. Between Harbaugh, Beilein, and Berenson's inputs, among the other coaches around campus, finding the right AD would be much easier. Of course, I don't know that coaches typically get an input, but maybe in our case they would, considering their last permanent AD.

robpollard

December 3rd, 2014 at 9:34 AM ^

I have no idea how the coaching search will go, which is the most important thing, but those were some excellent answers. Clear, empathetic, and also realistic.

MGoBrewMom

December 3rd, 2014 at 9:36 AM ^

This statement: "The third thing is that we want to continue the legacy of what’s been great from a values standpoint, that this place does not need to cut corners to win and you’ve got a lot of pride in the fact that [if] you come here you know you’re signing up to be the best in the world without any kind of shenanigans going on." This is always paramount in my mind, especially when people just want to win, above grades and integrity. Secondly, the overall press conference made me glad he's in charge. The people who compared him to DB because he is a CEO, or were critical because you thought they were getting Bates or Long, and were disappointed, need to take a step back. We fans think we know everything and have the "simple" answers. Just maybe Hackett is ok. He sure seems like a classy, deliberate leader.

ChicagoGangViolins

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:21 AM ^

 

I so subscribe to this wisdom that I went bald without even a single comb-over attempt. But that wasn't enough and I opted to shave shiney. If you wish to excel as a trusted advisor, you need to go bald. Ladies, it may help you break the corporate glass ceiling, consider.

 

dragonchild

December 3rd, 2014 at 9:51 AM ^

No red flags here, but I must admit I'm scratching my head about two things discussed at length:

1) I've listened/read that thing about ceremonies and Hoke's firing several times and still can't figure out what the hell he's talking about.  He's comparing a firing to Thanksgiving?  I don't get this at all.  Ceremonies like Thanksgiving and birthdays happen every year.  You don't want to ever get used to firing head coaches.

2) Hackett brought in a headhunting firm?  For an HC job?  Why?  And who?  This isn't the kind of opening where you have to sift through 5000 resumes and 50 interviews to fill a branch office; it's one position and there are only so many qualified candidates.  Is there a headhunter that has expertise in filling high-profile coaching jobs in the first place?  I hope I'm overreacting but unless I (or Hackett) know even less about FBS coach hires than I thought, bringing in outside consultants sounds unusual to say the least.  I mean, the guy's a businessman, not an AD, so I can understand getting help, but this sounds very much like an inside-the-box businessman's thinking.

Noleverine

December 3rd, 2014 at 9:54 AM ^

It is very common for athletic departments to hire search firms for coaching searches.

It's not that he doesn't know who to look at. The search firm acts as an intermediary, sending out feelers and gauging interest. From there, they can provide Hackett with a list of, say, 3 names of viable candidates who expressed interest. From there, Hackett can decide.

 

This is nothing out of the ordinary. No need to panic.

JFW

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:01 AM ^

Nothing is 100%, but Hackett seems by his actions to at least coming out and saying he doesn't have the experience, and needs help to pull this off, as its a crucial hire. 

The search firm can vet alot of people, and maybe do some research an gauge interest without the high profile exposure that Hackett alone would do. Further, if they have experience doing this they may well have the ability to do it so discretely you avoid the Les Miles/Herbstreet issue. 

I was angry with the athletic department for not seeming to take action. But Hackett scratched alot of my itches. We'll see how it goes from here. 

The_Doctor

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:03 AM ^

I also took this as a sign that he didn't start this search on Sunday night...the search firm probably was brought in a month ago and asked to start compiling list of candidates, finding and exploring contact pathways, and generally prepping to put a short list in front of him (or take his short list and give quick feedback and line up calls)

mjv

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:18 AM ^

I took the "Ceremonies" concept to imply that a certain processes, procedures and deliberations must be followed when an act of such significance takes place.  The red letter events and holidays on the calendar are conducted with a certain rigor and process that heightens the event and ensures it is granted the significance it deserves.  The act of firing someone should be granted such significance.

MI Expat NY

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:36 AM ^

Think of it this way, it's not as simple as just posting a job opening, scanning the resumes that come in, and calling some people in for an interview.  Someone has to be calling agents for the various coaches and initating discussions regarding interest, timing, potential contract terms, etc.  An AD doesn't have time to do that by himself, so he is either designating someone on his staff to do this who has very little experience with the task, or he could hire a search firm who does this constantly for coaches, ADs, school presidents, etc.  Who would you be more comfortable with making those calls?  

MaizeandBlueBleeder

December 3rd, 2014 at 7:50 PM ^

This is a good analogy why a search firm makes so much sense. Also, the search firm can multi-task by contacting more than one candidate at a time, thus saving Hackett the time he would need to dedicate if done alone. Search firms are experts at weeding out non-viable candidates upfront so the client's time is not wasted up front.

Another thing to keep in mind...Hackett is AD over 900 student athletes, not just the 115 on Team 135, along with all the accompanying staff for the football team. We all have 24 hours a day and he needs to make sure to give adequate attention to other departments at U-M.

notYOURmom

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:44 AM ^

Every major position here (dean, president, etc.) has been done with the aid of a recruiting agency to handle logistics, help negotiate contracts, etc

I think by "ceremony" he merely means deliberately, carefully, and not skipping any steps, due to respect for the parties concerned.

Mo Better Blues

December 3rd, 2014 at 12:44 PM ^

Exactly. And as Gerry DiNardo properly mentioned on BTN's coverage, these search firms provide a layer of plausible deniability if a guy says 'take my name off the list please' or 'why would I ever want to go to Michigan?' -- your organization never technically offered those people or demonstrated interest, so you weren't turned down. You can be (more or less) truthful when asked about them. Having a skilled intermediary as a backchannel is valuable. When Brandon was asked, basically, "was Brady Hoke your first choice?", he (unsurprisingly) kind of biffed it and said, in essence, "uhhh...yeah. First choice the whole way". It was clear that some overtures had been made and been rebuffed by other coaches. Those overtures were made by a headhunting firm, providing a buffer between Michigan and disinterested parties.

(Edit: Oh, and I say Brandon biffed it in his response because he biffed the hiring process itself by not getting the right man for the job. Brady Hoke--as anyone who read this blog or was aware of the other names out there back then knew--was obviously, painfully obviously, NOT anybody's first choice. And if he was, then that spoke volumes about their lack of judgment. If Michigan picks another guy like that, (and Brady's a good man, etc., etc.), but who is quite clearly not in the first tier of potential hires, the headhunting firm loses some of its value as a buffer. It can help if you get your #3 choice as opposed to your #1 choice. If you drop from #1 choice to #10 choice, the illusion dissipates quickly.)

Sam1863

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:04 AM ^

1. Hackett is a smart and thoughful man. I was particularly struck by the statement, "When you make a decision to change somebody's life you better take the time to think about it ..." Damn good advice.

2. He's a lot more forthcoming than Brandon. Even when he refused to answer the question about a time-frame for the decision, he explained why: "It changes all the trading."

3. It's way too early to tell if he would be a good choice for a permanent AD (not enough evidence yet), but I'll say this: He sure looks like a hell of a good short-term choice.

4. He sounds like a leader, rather than just a boss. Smart, direct, well-spoken, knows what he's trying to do, and has a plan for getting there. And speaking as someone who's had several bosses in my life (some good, some crappy), this is the kind of guy I wouldn't mind working for.

Njia

December 3rd, 2014 at 12:09 PM ^

And I'll add one more: it's pretty clear to me that as he's thought about processes with which he is unfamiliar (i.e. evaluating/hiring a football coach) he thinks about what he would need to know to make an informed choice. He's not trying to "break what isn't broken", he's trying to break as few things as possible.

The Anti-Brandon.

jmdblue

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:00 AM ^

1) while we may or may not get a coach we're all thrilled about upon his hiring, this coaching search is going to have zero in common with those conducted by Martin or Brandon.

2) I'm sure Hackett and Brandon travel in similar circles and likely know each other.  I doubt they like each other much.

seegoblu

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:02 AM ^

I thought he was direct and honest in his approach and quite sensitive to the realities of the situation...to fans it's about wins and losses, but there are people involved whose lives will change as a result of this decision and you need to be thoughtful in your approach.

Mr. Hackett seems to get it. I hope he hires a great coach.

Crash

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:13 AM ^

This whole topic makes me laugh.  Everyone thinks that a change is great when things are bad, and a change is terrible when things are good.  Everyone loves Jim Hackett because he did what the masses wanted: Fired Hoke.  Eveyrone loved Schissel because he did what we all wanted: Fired Brandon.  Well everyone loved Brandon because he did what we wanted: Fired Rich Rod.  

Am I the only one who thinks this positive reaction to Hackett's press conference is completely pretenscious?  How exactly did he knock it out of the park?  Don't get me wrong, it wasn't bad.  I just don't understand how so many people can have such a bad memory.  Hackett pretty much said nothing other than that one answer about the "Michigan Man" phrase.  I'm glad he said that, but so far I've seen no evidence that he's the incredible AD most of you claim.

thespacepope

December 3rd, 2014 at 12:14 PM ^

Can the next coach please stop calling OSU "Ohio"? Calling it Ohio is about as clever as calling UM "scUM" or "Meatchicken" or "TTUN". Michigan should not have to resort to such inane tactics.