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Jerry Montgomery Leaves the Beyonce Spot

By Seth — February 24th, 2013 at 7:37 PM — 46 comments
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Michigan's defensive line coaching staff. Bryan Fuller|MGoBlog (Title Reference)

There's never been a better time to start in life. It ain't too early and it aint too late!
Starting as a farmer with a brand new wife. Still be living in a brand-new state!
Brand new state- Gonna treat you great!

OOOOOOKLAHOMA! Coaches at large schools have done well to be entering their third year at the helm with their own jobs intact. To get that far with all of your coordinators means taking out several mortgages with every deity who still accepts sacrifices. You do poorly, can a coordinator. Do well, your best guys are instantly on the short list for whichever second-rate SEC school fired Houston Nutt this week. Do… well there isn't a middle ground is there?

So it is with great remarkability that I announce that the staff Brady Hoke arrived with in 2011 has finally had its first defection. Jerry Montgomery, a guy who's a few months older than me and a few months younger than Brian, is leaving the job he shares with the guy he reports to, and the guy that guy reports to, in order to actually coach defensive linemen at Oklahoma. This was an inevitable move once the soul patch became a full-grown beard and "knows what Adult Swim is" ceased being relevant to a generation of recruits who don't even realize robot Optimus Prime is supposed to look like a truck.

Gonna buy you barley, carrots and pertaters,
pasture for the cattle, spinich and termaters,
Flowers on the prarie where the June bugs zoom,
Plen'y of air and plen'y of room, Plen'y of room to swing a rope!
Plen'y of heart and plen'y of hope.

OOOOOOKLAHOMA! Montgomery did in fact prove himself adept at connecting with recruits on a football level. Whereas in 2012 many of the big Ohio recruits were in Mattison's western territory, Montgomery is the guy who in 2013 cracked open Pickering/Columbus and did his part in reeling in a five-star running back. For this, that, and the other reason it was coming time for him to go somewhere where he isn't just [the young guy on staff who's there to relate to the kids, aka…] the Beyonce.

Down in Oklahoma, Josh Heupel has dreamy eyes and probably knows what it's like to get in trouble for texting during class, something neither I nor Montgomery can relate to. Jerry is moving up, even if the school is a step down (to us) or sideways (to everyone else). He's coached DL under Hoke and Mattison and now he'll add Stoops to his resume, and in three or five years somebody will see if he knows how to run a defense. This wasn't Stoops coming in with a magic potion, nor did ol' Jud ride in on his fancy wagon to outbid another Big Ten team for its favorite up-and-comer. It's the way things go.

The rest of the staff is expected to be here awhile, or at least until Fred Jackson decides it's time to hold an event like the Olympics but more athletic to determine whether Hart or Wheatley's the more worthy successor. Michigan now has an opening for an assistant coach who knows what it feels like when Instagram deletes all your photos to cover a nominal position and stop by Ann Arbor every few weeks to deliver a batch of LOIs. In this day and age it's crucial to have at least one guy on staff who doesn't know the words to Oklahoma.

OOOOOklahoma, where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain
And the wavin' wheat can sure smell sweet
When the wind comes right behind the rain!

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February 24th, 2013 at 7:48 PM | It always sucks to lose a dynamic young coach and recruiter (Score:5 Normal)
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Take a look at Bo's roster of assistants from year to year, and you'll see changes happened with some regularity. Put it this way: if your head coach is never losing assistants to other top-level programs, that's actually not a good thing.


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February 24th, 2013 at 9:13 PM | Absolutely spot on, I also feel better that it is Stoops who is (Score:5 Normal)
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getting him. They are both Iowa guys so there is an existing connnection. At least this was not some random move.

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February 24th, 2013 at 11:04 PM | We're not used to that any more (Score:2 Normal)
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Bo had a bunch of assistants who later became head coaches (link), but our last two coaches have not done as well at this. I don't (cough cough) remember the name of the last coach (cough cough), but Lloyd Carr's staff just didn't produce as many head coaches as Bo's did. The only two I can think of (and I may be missing some) are Ron English and Mike DeBord.

Assuming that Hoke keeps hiring great assistant coaches, I think it's great. 

Where's Charlie Bauman when you need him?

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February 25th, 2013 at 2:10 AM | Hey Rich Rod produced Scott (Score:2 Normal)
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Hey Rich Rod produced Scott Shafer...kind of.

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February 25th, 2013 at 9:39 AM | I might suggest that... (Score:3 Normal)
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Lloyd will one day have an awesome coaching tree...Almost all of it by way of Brady Hoke.

We're gonna play with toughness, we're gonna be responsible and we're gonna play with toughness.  This is Michigan.

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February 25th, 2013 at 10:25 AM | I think you are missing a (Score:2)
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I think you are missing a pretty big one. He points at stuff a lot, and usually poops gold. He also has a petty good DC in his tree (hint, he was at WMU with the previous coach mentioned, and also coached in NFL).

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February 24th, 2013 at 7:51 PM | Good Luck Coach. (Score:3 Normal)
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and thank you.

Co Blue.

L.S.A. '88

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February 24th, 2013 at 7:55 PM | Good Luck (Score:5 Normal)
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Good Luck to him. I wish him nothing but the best. I also read somewhere that he spoke with all of the current 2014 commits and told them he will not recruit them while at Oklahoma. He has a lot of class and I respect him as a man.

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February 24th, 2013 at 8:07 PM | Thanks for answering that question (Score:4 Normal)
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before it had to be asked. 

He did well by us while he was here, and while he was leaving.

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February 24th, 2013 at 8:15 PM | Where? (Score:2)
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Where did you read this? Rivals has an article thats is paywalled, but it seems to suggest that he is currently recruiting DE Andrew Williams for the Sooners, who's also being recruited by Michigan.

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February 24th, 2013 at 8:23 PM | It was (Score:5 Normal)
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It was passed on to me from someone reliable, so I'm not sure which site they got it from, but he was talking about the commits Ferns, Speight, and Mone, not all the other kids that Michigan has offered for this class. I think that would be a bit too much to ask him not to recruit any other kid that Michigan had interest in or offered a scholarship to, especially when he's going to another big BCS school.

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February 24th, 2013 at 8:25 PM | I heard it too. Commits, AKA (Score:1)
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I heard it too. Commits, AKA Mone.

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February 24th, 2013 at 8:26 PM | That one (Score:3 Normal)
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Is totally my fault. Guess I couldn't read where you clearly stated "commits" My bad Eaglet.

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February 24th, 2013 at 8:47 PM | I should hope he is recruiting for his new team. (Score:3 Normal)
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If not, he doesn't deserve to be there. 

I spent a good few of my formative years down the road from Norman. There are worse places to be, and they take their football seriously down there. Good luck, Coach!

May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift

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February 25th, 2013 at 9:52 AM | Well if Montgomery isn't (Score:1)
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Well if Montgomery isn't going to recruit any player at Oklahoma that he also recruited at Michigan, then you would have to prove specifically Jerry Montgomery recruited Andrew Williams while at Michigan and not some other Michigan coach.  I think the point is that it is wrong for Michigan to devote resources (capital) for Montgomery to establish a working relationship with a recruit only for him to use that time and capital to turn the recruit over to Oklahoma.

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February 25th, 2013 at 10:23 AM | Pardon me, do you have any Grey Poupon? (Score:2)
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This is D1 Football. I'd guess that all of those things are part of the reason Stoops chose Montgomery. Here is a local article discussing recruiting needs.

May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift

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February 24th, 2013 at 8:35 PM | Weren't there only three programs that had the same staff (Score:1)
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And two of them were Michigan and Michigan State (who also lost a coach)?

And Hart might have an open spot now that Wheatley is coaching running backs in the NFL. The pay cut for the same duties might be more than Michigan can overcome. Unless there's additionally responsibilities thrown in. And I don't think Hoke was here with either of them.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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February 24th, 2013 at 8:55 PM | It's good to see that our (Score:5 Normal)
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It's good to see that our coaches can be highly coveted.  Hopefully one day we can remark on what a big coaching tree Hoke has produced.  Hate to see people go, but Bo flirted with Texas A&M and Hoke once left to go coach in the MAC.  These guys have to do what's best for their careers and their families.  Best of luck to Montgomery. 

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February 24th, 2013 at 8:58 PM | Searching, searching... (Score:2)
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...searching for a FAQ that addresses how to embed a video, but the one I did find said Page not found.  But maybe the mods can give an assist?  Otherwise, this belongs here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INOeZnfUuIY

The Team, The Team, The Team

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February 24th, 2013 at 8:58 PM | Take it from me (Score:2 Normal)
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An ESSENTIAL skill to being a great leader is being great at attracting and hiring talent.  Why?  Because while you'll have your share of loyalists, your staff WILL get poached.  (Hoke brought in Mattison, so we should be OK.)

Left my last job to work a crappy job for the sole reason that my new manager is awesome.  In the ten months I've been here he's already had 10% of his team poached.

Internally.

By his superiors.

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February 24th, 2013 at 9:02 PM | don't get the reference (Score:2 Normal)
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I don't understand why Montogomery is in the Beyonce spot.  This isn't a complaint about the writing style, just a herm-like comment on my own lack of understanding of pop culture, but given how famous, rich, and successful Beyonce is, I'd think a position coach would *want* to be in the Beyonce spot.

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February 24th, 2013 at 9:33 PM | Since she left the threesome (Score:1)
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Since she left the threesome of Destiny's child, you're quite right.

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February 24th, 2013 at 9:41 PM | It was a reference to the (Score:3 Normal)
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It was a reference to the reference Brian made on his hiring, which is a reference to something you are perfectly fine going through life never knowing about.

(Blogger alias: "Misopogon") This team is under construction. We thank you for your patience.

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February 24th, 2013 at 10:12 PM | thanks (Score:1)
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Ah, it makes sense now!  And, just to double check, the link to the title reference wasn't there when I posted, was it?  Because if it was, I now feel really dumb.

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February 24th, 2013 at 10:16 PM | It was linked later in the (Score:2 Normal)
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It was originally linked later in the article (the soul patch). I've added the (Title Reference) thing to the photo caption, and also explained what I mean again in the article, since a 145-and-counting-post thread on how some people hate having to google references has since cropped up.

(Blogger alias: "Misopogon") This team is under construction. We thank you for your patience.

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February 24th, 2013 at 11:26 PM | If you have to explain (Score:-1 Normal)
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If you have to explain sarcasm or a joke more than once, it's a construct of your own inner dialogue, and not a take on contemporary mores. This post failed on many levels, most especially since this was reported more than 24 hours ago, and rather than just providing analysis or a "take", you went to places most won't understand and frankly "doesn't not compute" land.



I really think you, Brian and others need to step back and realize your personal jokes and dialog will alienate people and rather than a site with massive traffic, people will find the next best thing.



I am 33, a former teacher who "gets" pop culture, yet I didn't get 90% of what you were going for here. I am sort getting why the board made a post about front page content now.

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February 25th, 2013 at 9:59 AM | Wow. The board is full of Statlers and Waldorfs today (Score:3 Normal)
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Wow. The board is full of Statlers and Waldorfs today except these ones aren't funny.  , exey,  I think most Michigan grads/fans come to mgoblog for the wit and humor. There are plenty of venues to get dry humorless posts and you can go there as you please.

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February 25th, 2013 at 10:39 AM | I disagree with that. (Score:2 Normal)
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I specifically come here because the Michigan information is much better than any other site that I know of (I originally found Mgoblog during the Lloyd Carr replacement search).

And personally, I find the "humour" & personality of Mgoblog to be rather annoying and distracting.

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February 24th, 2013 at 9:39 PM | In the words of Karsch, (Score:2)
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Besta luck to you!

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February 24th, 2013 at 9:39 PM | Yeah, what exactly does it (Score:2 Normal)
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Yeah, what exactly does it mean to be "the Beyonce?" That either makes no sense or is horribly patronizing and/or offensive. I'm interested to hear what you really mean by it.

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February 24th, 2013 at 9:48 PM | First reference to Beyonce spot: (Score:2)
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http://mgoblog.com/content/jerry-montgomery-fills-beyonce-spot

Take it for the grain of salt that it's truly worth.

Michigan's offensive style requires more players that have greater interactions with the Higgs field.

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February 24th, 2013 at 9:52 PM | Disappointed (selfishly, (Score:5 Normal)
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Disappointed (selfishly, because he's a good recruiter and I like what the line is doing) but not surprised. When this broke some comments in the thread expressed some surprise that this was a lateral move... But it's not.



Not only are his two superiors active D-line coaches who get much of the credit, but they actually do a lot of the work. Montgomery wasn't "the man" for the D-Line. He was one of them, yes, but when the D-Line warmed up for games, Coach Hoke was right there in his old spot yelling and exhorting and directing.



That's not to say that it wasn't a good working situation for Montgomery, but it's not hard to see that the "same" position at Oklahoma really involves more responsibility and accountability with less direct involvement from superiors.



If you were doing a job you loved, but your boss happened to be really good at what you did and did a fair amount of the work (and deservedly received a lot of the credit), and you liked the boss but wanted to work more independently with less of a net and could make as much or more money, wouldn't you consider a jump?

Servant. Pastor. Husband. Michigan fan in Duluth. 

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February 25th, 2013 at 10:38 AM | I think your speculation of Coach M (Score:2)
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wanting to go somewhere where he wasn't under the shadow of two other prominent DL coaches is spot on, and probably the major reason he took a lateral move to coach at OK.  It hurts to lose a good recruiting DL coach, especially when we're after some prominent players at this position for 2014.  But, over the last 35 years, many Michigan assistants have come and gone under Coaches Bo, Moeller, and Carr.  This will give Coach Hoke an opportunity to replace him with someone just as good or better.  

"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans!  Now go out there and make it happen!"

- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22  OSU 0)

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February 24th, 2013 at 10:45 PM | Let's say you're Mike Hart (Score:2)
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you know he could deliver a stack of LOI's(he believes hard, graduated a living legend, and had a cup of coffee in the league...you can't buy that credibility) but is he better off moving up the food chain at a low-pressure place like EMU, or getting his foot in the door on his dream staff where upward mobility is going to be limited and competitive?

Omnes i facere est vincere 
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February 24th, 2013 at 11:12 PM | thanks coach j.montgomery (Score:2 Normal)
pbmd
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thanks for  a great 2 years.

defensive line showed great improvement under the hoke/mattison/montgomery team.

recruiting has been very good and i think montgomery more than pulled his own weight!

great success in OK- hopefully he never steals a michigan recruit or wins a game against the wolverines.

pbmd

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February 24th, 2013 at 11:46 PM | This post tries to do too (Score:4 Normal)
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This post tries to do too many things. Pare it down to 3 paragraphs with fewer inside jokes for simplicity and clarity.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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February 25th, 2013 at 1:36 AM | oooooooooooooklahoma (Score:1)
umchicago
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every nite my honey lamb and i

sit around and talk and watch a hawk

makin lazy circles in the skyyyyyy...

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February 25th, 2013 at 2:52 AM | Good luck in Oklahoma, coach, (Score:1)
Jacoby
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Good luck in Oklahoma, coach, and thanks for helping the program get back to its winning ways. As for The Team, I hope they see this as an opportunity to fill his shoes with someone with impeccable credentials. This can be a good opportunity.

New Orleans-based Wolverine fan.

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February 25th, 2013 at 4:37 AM | Coaching Progression (Score:0 Overrated)
Rusty Knuckles
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I think Brady Hoke is a way better coach having had stints at Ball State and SDSU.  It is invaluable to experience and learn how different places, systems and leagues do things and then bring that knowledge back home.  If Brady would have stayed at Michigan as an assistant this whole time (and not fired by RichRod), he wouldn't be as successful as he is/ will be.

I feel at times near the end of Lloyd's tenure Michigan was subject to "groupthink".  A lot of the issues I had with the staff was due to doing things a certain way because "we've always done it that way."  Shirley Jackson style.  Montgomery, if he ever comes back as a DC or head coach here or wherever he goes, will be better off with multiple mentors/ experinces.  And I hope he does come back at some point.

The Beyonce thing is a PC way to say we need a young black coach somewhere on the staff to relate and "get" kids we are recruiting.  Baccari Alexander is a very good coach regardless of race or age, but it does help in bringing kids in not just to see a bunch of old white guys.

I would recommend getting as much perspective as possible in any walk of life you may be in.  It makes you appreciate Michigan that much more.

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February 25th, 2013 at 8:31 AM | please (Score:-1 Offtopic)
rossra2
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can we please please please get dashawn hand..

 

i saw he mentioned talking to mattison and montgomery. i just hope this doesnt reduce his liking of michigan. dashawn hand will be a great piece to the puzzle called national championships here at michigan

hoke ...lets get him!

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February 25th, 2013 at 9:20 AM | Disppointing to see such an (Score:2)
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Disppointing to see such an important cog in our defensive staff moving on, but I agree with the general sentiment here that if other teams aren't trying to poach your assitant coaches, you're not doing a good job of hiring and developing your staff.

Hoke and Mattison found Jerry Montgomery, they'll find another qualified, young coach to fill his spot.  Mattison's performance so far has earned him my utmost confidence.

Best of luck to Coach Montgomery and his family and perhaps we'll see you again on our sideline someday.

 

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"Fix the cigarette lighter."

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February 25th, 2013 at 10:00 AM | I think it's good that (Score:2 Normal)
ThoseWhoStayUofM
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I think it's good that Montgomery left.  At Michigan, the university encourages students to study abroad as well as pursue their graduate educations at universities that aren't Michigan.  The reason is because we see the value in leaning different methods for solving problems.  Michigan knows it isn't perfect and so it's important to see how other people do things better and worse than Michigan so you can encorporate the best of what others do in your own work.

I think what Jerry Montgomery learns at Oklahoma will ultimately help him become a better coach and a better advisor and example for young athletes.  We just need to maintain that he will always be a Michigan Man.

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February 25th, 2013 at 10:22 AM | Wish (Score:1)
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him the best. 

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February 25th, 2013 at 10:50 AM | Hoke to NFL Rumor Theory (Score:1 Overrated)
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I wonder if the Hoke to the NFL rumor actually was twisted by the internet and BCS coaches had caught wind of OU's offer to Montgomery.  The Michigan coach rumor was in fact about Montgomery leaving and that's what someone told Da'Shawn Hand.

If a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump its ass a-hoppin' - Nathan Huffhines

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February 25th, 2013 at 12:39 PM |  Could the Montgomery thing (Score:2)
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Could the Montgomery thing turn out a plus for us?

I mean yes it's never a good thing to lose a 1st tier dline coach, but it doesn't reflect poorly on Michigan with the Hoke/Mattison shadow looming. 

I remember seeing a post in another thread on how we might pick up a LB coach and just let the old guys continue to churn out NFL prospects. I'd think we could pick up a young 1st tier coach looking to really shine - maybe Ray Lewis (99.9% kidding).

 

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February 25th, 2013 at 3:32 PM | Still the Beyonce spot? (Score:3 Normal)
DY
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The next hire should probably get the job in the Rhianna spot, at the very least. I mean, Beyonce is now a mom who lip-sync's at inaugurations and Super Bowl halftime shows. Do  the kids these days think those things are hip?

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