Jalil Irvin Decommits Comment Count

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I'm sure everyone will handle this news calmly and rationally.

2018 GA OG Jalil Irvin is now Michigan's third decommit in the last two days, joining 2017 DT Aubrey Solomon and 2018 TE/DL Leonard Taylor.

Let's try to take a step back on this. Solomon is a big loss, without question; his initial commitment was a huge surprise and it was always going to be a tough battle to keep the nearby SEC powers, especially Georgia, at bay. I don't think anyone expected Taylor's commitment to stick pretty much from the moment he made it. Irvin is another Georgia prospect who committed very early in the cycle and is seeing his rankings rise.

None of these are all that surprising when taken individually. Having all three occur over the course of two days makes for bad feels and bad headlines, but Michigan will be just fine for both the 2017 and 2018 classes.

Comments

ChiCityWolverine

August 23rd, 2016 at 11:01 AM ^

Feels more and more like the only "Hello From the Future" commits that stick are the in-state or legacy kids. Getting excited about kids that haven't even started their junior high school football season was a little crazy anyway. This hurts with the high-profile players for sure, but if we have the season the fanbase is hoping for, our 2018 class will be just fine. 

turd ferguson

August 23rd, 2016 at 1:08 PM ^

After the 2016 recruiting cycle, I promised myself that I wouldn't get invested one way or the other with a Harbaugh recruiting class until a few weeks before signing day.  Harbaugh just approaches this differently than Hoke did.  I get the impression that "offer" and "commitment" aren't as meaningful to him as they were to Hoke, and the big moments/decisions for Harbaugh are whether to fax an LOI to a recruit and whether the recruit faxes it back.  

I'm still expecting a ton of changes to our 2017 commitment list before February.

M-Dog

August 23rd, 2016 at 10:58 AM ^

Yeah, '18 commits are like winks from the head cheerleader in high school.  It could just as easily be for the guy standing behind you.

Even '17 commits in August are to be taken with a grain of salt.

I won't freak out until someone big commits (or decommits) in January. 

The results of this season on the field will have more to do with our '17 and '18 classes than anything else.

It's time to play some actual games.

dragonchild

August 23rd, 2016 at 12:26 PM ^

Don't they actually encourage their recruits to go through the recruiting process even after they've committed?  They want players to be comfortable with their decisions, and don't act in the least bit worried if kids take officials elsewhere.

'18 commits have a lot of 'crootin left.  If Harbaugh wants 'em then this is far from over.  If they've been given the cold shoulder then the earlier the better.  I don't really see anyone winding up worse off in the long run as far as '18 recruiting goes.

CalifExile

August 23rd, 2016 at 2:29 PM ^

Also, it's impossible to guage how important OG will be in that class. If Slaton signs this year he will join Bredeson and Onwenu plus the guys in the current class who are considered as possible OGs. It's also impossible to tell whether there will be other OGs who might move ahead of JI in desirability.

DonAZ

August 23rd, 2016 at 1:03 PM ^

Gee thanks ...

... now I've got the Marvin Gaye song in my head.

Not that there's anything wrong with that ... great song!

What's going on
Ya, what's going on
Ah, what's going on

ak47

August 23rd, 2016 at 10:42 AM ^

Based off what happened with the Aubrey Soloman stuff it feels like the staff may be over reaching their capacity with the offer canoon.  Creates mistakes that shouldn't be happening with top recruits.

ak47

August 23rd, 2016 at 11:30 AM ^

Its hard to keep track of 150 kids, and when you are trying to do that sometimes one of the 50 who really matter have a mistake happen.  Of course it not the only reason for a decommitment but a letter being sent about an event you didn't attend that spells your name wrong is pretty insulting.

If you offer and focus in on a smaller group stuff like that is likely to happen, I think casting a really wide net can be great for a lot of reasons, it can get you the Benhamin St. Juste's of the world but it comes with some consequences and I think we might be seeing some of that, just like we did last year with offers not really being offers not being communicated clearly enough.

gbdub

August 23rd, 2016 at 11:43 AM ^

I note with some amusement that you misspelled Solomon.

But seriously I'm guessing that was 10% mistake, 50% mom wanting her baby boy close to home and encouraging him to read any mistake by Michigan harshly, and 40% Georgia deploying the bagman squad.

If you drop your commitment because somebody sends a thank you card for an event you RSVP'd to but backed out of late, you're either a diva or you weren't that committed in the first place and you were looking for a reason.



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charblue.

August 23rd, 2016 at 12:49 PM ^

to as human beings are the sound and pronunciation of our name. That is a fundamental truth in all communication.

Michigan benefitted from a cyclone of attention when these guys first committed from the defeat of Florida in the bowl game, to spring break practice in Florida and then the satellite camp debate. All of that put Harbaugh and his program  front and center in SEC land and made him the go-to guy. Now, the coach is busy with his season prep work and his recruiting staff is doing the background stuff to keep recruits contacted and informed. And when things go awry, when you misspell a recruit's name, when you fail to follow up properly, when a recruit feels less valued and is being courted closer to home and nagged about staying in state to fulfill his college football experience, those pressures weigh on a young kid.

And when that kid's parents aren't fully behind his choice of school or think he ought to reconsider, the pressure goes stronger to decommit. Everyone responds according to their nature, upbringing and personality.

All you can do is redouble your effort if the kid is just needing some breathing space, and doing so by remaining a presence not a saturating, overindulgent voice challenging his decision-making. That's what kills any romance and a recruit's desire to stay with the school that first sold him. Maybe Michigan doesn't get these guys back.

It looks bad to see this trend but it's part and parcel of the process. And you just have to roll with it and look how it can positively benefit your program down the line, perhaps altering hour methodology or finding a better replacement. What's most important is learning from the situation.

matty blue

August 23rd, 2016 at 1:11 PM ^

...we don't call a 16-year-old kid, getting attention from people that he watches on television, and probably thinks a four-year commitment that starts two years from now is almost literally forever, a "diva."  or anything else, for that matter.  just thinking.

gbdub

August 23rd, 2016 at 1:37 PM ^

Note that I don't actually think he's a diva - that's why I gave the second (much more likely) option that he just wasn't that committed and needs a breather, and only assigned the actual mistake a 10% value. If I wanted to call the kid a diva I just would have said that. Maybe ... read the whole post, give a moment to consider a charitable meaning, and consider before snakily rage responding. just thinking.



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