Well actually everyone ND has hired has had pretty good recruiting prowess. I have no idea about Hoke. We'll see what he can do to pull our current class together.
Hoke Named Michigan Football Coach
ANN ARBOR – University of Michigan Athletic Director Dave Brandon announced today (Tuesday, Jan. 11) the hiring of Brady Hoke as the 19th coach in the 131-year history of Michigan football. Hoke arrives in Ann Arbor after spending the past eight seasons as a head coach at Ball State (2003-08) and San Diego State (2009-10).
“We are pleased to announce the hiring of Brady,” said Brandon. “He is a terrific coach and will be a great ambassador and leader for our football program. We look forward to having him build a championship program on the field and in the classroom.”
I cut the blah blah blah bits since the second paragraph details Michigan's accomplishments when he was a position coach on the staff.
I was referring to willingham who is routinely cited, fairly or not, for poor recruiting by ND fans.
From Brian's press conference recap when richrod was let go:
"This is a total failure on Brandon's part and he has about a week to prevent this program from becoming Notre Dame. He probably won't."
What did Rich do in order to get fired for this guy?
Now I got that ol appy state feeling of godhatesme.
Presided over three of the worst Michigan defenses ever. That's all.
>What did Rich do in order to get fired for this guy?
You watched the bowl game right?
Michigan was improving ( I dont care what anyone says 7 wins > 3 wins) but obviously the team was a long long way from being a competitor for the B10 title again.
OTOH I would have preferred to see UM keep RR rather than hire a guy who has 3 winning seasons as a HC.
Hoke very well may turn out to be a fine coach, but this means that either Brandon didn't conduct his promised "national" search or EVERY SINGLE better candidate turned him down. Either scenario is unpalatable.
I pray I will one day be forced to eat my words but I'm pretty sure I won't. Brady Hoke is a repudiation of all things Rich Rod, and only makes sense if you don't think there was anything good from the last three years. Platitudes of being "tougher" are empty when you're replacing the guy who brought in Barwis and kept playing Cam Gordon at safety positions he didn't know because he hits man.
And for what, a shout out to disassociated Lloyd guys?
Because a wholesale dumping of the last guy's program worked so well last time. Who's happy about this, other than Hoke's buddies?
But other than Denard, what was that good about the last 3 years? It was pretty damn painful. Anything else is on a short list.
I know, I know, Brian has worked everyone into such a frenzy over the years that Rich > Michigan...but take a deep breath. I bet most of you will find you like Brady in spite of yourself.
Now if you want to piss on Brandon for a pointless and ill timed search, have at it.
What was good about the last 3 years?
Not much on the field. (beating ND in the 4th q 2 years in a row was nice, tho) Off the field not much either. But then in '07 the fans though Carr was past it, and the mantra about the defense was OMG CANNOT STOP THE SPREAD (remember the Horror and following Oregon games?).
Everyone wanted Carr's supposedly old fashioned, boring, unimaginative style of play run out of town and that's what happened.
Now RR has been run out of town. So I am supposed to be optimistic that a return to what everyone had grown to consider as out of date, old fashioned and boring is a good thing?
If Hoke struggles, then what? He's had 3 winning seasons as a head coach. I'm not excited.
I hope I"m wrong. Really. But I am not going to hold my breath.
He shows up at the press conference tomorrow in a leopard print sweater vest and accompanying blue tie.
Perhaps we can start discussing who will be joining his staff?!
The Offensive Coordinator is going to be a big hire (in importance)...
Scott Loeffler (sp?), please!
Can he run a spread?
And mike deboard... Oh please.
And what about the head coach in waiting, Ron English? It seems his players at EM love him.
No way ND hires their equivalent of Hoke -- whatever this hire means, it does not mean we are ND.
Does anyone think Hoke can turn the defense around? Just how good of a defensive coach is he? Could he have been a top-level DC if he had not taken the head-coach route?
Is there any chance he will bring in an OC who will run something like the 2010 offense?
ND's closest parallel is the hiring of Davie from within -- although the Faust hire (a high school coach) is freaky. Still, Davie had no head-coaching experience, so different from Hoke.
I picked the wrong month to stop drinking.
ND fired a coach who had 3 sub par years and meh recruiting. Remember Tyrone Willingham? Sounds like RR at Michigan.
There are already people demanding Brandon be fired for this hire, so much for uniting the fan base.
I won't say we are ND yet, but the trajectory we are on makes things look pretty grim.
No ties to ND, long history as an assistant, two year stint in the NFL, then seven years at Stanford with one Rose Bowl and the Eddie Robinson award in 2000. He was a hot property when Notre Dame hired him.
The firing of RR has parallels to Willingham, but we're talking about the Hoke hire here.
I am glad that some are holding their ground and being positive about Hoke. He is the substance(wins) over style(offensive yards) pick.
Brian talks about lazy media then sets up Hoke to fail by saying any coach should be 9-3 with the team we have. Did he say that in RR's first year? Nobody predicted a sub-.500 year. Whoops. I guess RR did not have "his" players. Carr left the cupboard bare. A second sub-.500 year. Hmmm. A third year barely over .500. Great coach? Not so much. Yet, there are still posters predicting future MNC(s) for RR. Based on what logic? We cannot even get to .500 in the Big Ten. All years I attended UM (8) we got 5 or 6 wins in the Big Ten. He got 6 in 3 years! Tim Brewster got 6 in just over 3 years at Minnesota. Nobody thought he got a raw deal when he was fired.
Give Hoke a chance. He will win more in the next 3 years than we have won in the last 3 with RR. The critics will claim it is because of RR's players. No. It will be because we play a complete game-defense, special teams as well as offense. We will win, and we will become a national powerhouse again.
At least we won't have Mark Bihl advising recruits to go to Michigan State and Dhani Jones walking into David Brandon's office and demanding a firing. Thanks for your support, guys! Your loyalty in this tough time is appreciated.
I am disgusted at these so called Michigan Men who actively undermined the program.
Bihl should turn in his M ring for sending kids to MSU.
According to rumors, MSC and LC never wanted JH from day one - noses permanently out of joint because he had criticized our athletic department and academics. Ditto with the rumors that LC would have nothing to do with LM because of old grudges. In short, LC now has his man. Anyone have the e-mail addresses of the Trustees?