is worse than MLive. Thankfully much of the riff raff won't be here next September.
there would have to be some to wash away
I started writing this post at Heiko's apartment before my laptop battery mercifully bailed out, giving me a few minutes to think on the drive home. Time heals all wounds, they say; this wasn't nearly enough time.
Michigan got an early gift when Jake Ryan's crushing hit on Iowa QB Jake Rudock on a play-action rollout—sound familiar?—led to a fluttering pass that Brennen Beyer intercepted and took back seven yards for a touchdown. The defense came away with two other interceptions in the game; Blake Countess baiting Rudock for his second pick led directly to the second Wolverine touchdown, a two-yard pass to A.J. Williams that Iowa had completely dead to rights until Devin Gardner comically stiff-armed Tanner Miller to the ground in the backfield.
Left to its own devices, the Michigan offense could muster just one more score in the game, a nine-yard pass to Jeremy Gallon to give them a 21-7 halftime lead.
The Wolverines finished with 158 yards on 57 plays (2.8 ypp); the Greg Davis-coached Iowa offense managed to tally 407 yards (5.5 ypp) despite freezing temperatures and a howling wind. At one point in the second half, Al Borges called for back-to-back reverses—the first one worked; the second predictably failed miserably. Iowa adjusted to Michigan's fake-bubble-based run game and that was all she wrote; the defense, down both starting linebackers by the end of the game, couldn't stop the inevitable comeback.
Eight three-and-outs. Eight.
Gardner fumbled on a draw play on Michigan's final offensive possession, their first turnover of the game; it was unfortunate, to be sure, but at this point it's pretty tough to blame the guy:
Gardner walked in holding his right arm in his pant loop. Like a self made sling. He's absolutely injured, just a question of how severely
— Everett Cook (@everettcook) November 23, 2013
I watch him play and feel no anger, just sadness. Michigan is left with no reasonable option but to put him out there despite the fact that he's obviously not close to the same player he was last year or at the start of this season, clearly hurt, and being put in a position in which few—if any—quarterbacks could succeed. Gardner gives this team the best chance to win; he's also battered, skittish, and quite possibly flat-out injured.
Crazy things happen in football, which is why we keep watching. It'll take something beyond any reasonable expectation of crazy for Michigan to even stay competitive in The Game on Saturday.
is worse than MLive. Thankfully much of the riff raff won't be here next September.
You are right. This whole community needs to step away from the ledge.
The most important thing Hoke and his staff are doing is re-stocking the pond. They are hitting it out of the park in that area.
This team will grow up, and when they do they will be frightening.
I thought the game thread yesterday was a disgrace and I read very little of the posts, but someone said something pretty interesting (at least to me).
They mentioned that after 3 seasons RR was 7-5 and got canned. In those three years he improved in record every season and there wasn't much doubt he would have improved the next year too. Despite that he still got the boot.
Hoke in his third year is most likely going 7-5.while showing steady regression each year. Many will point to his overall record as a reason he should stay (and I wouldn't argue with that) but the bottom line is after three seasons under each coach we are in the same mess, though with this staff it looks to be getting worse instead of better.
Now I honestly don't think Hoke should go (just like I didn't believe RR should have been canned after three years) but I think he should be given the same ultimatum I thought RR should have been given...fire your coordinator or find another job.
that Hoke was too successful early on? Actually though it is dark now, the incoming classes, along with the classes of 2012 and 2013, are far and away superior to anything RR had. Michigan football this year is a product of hollow recruiting during the RR administration, things will get better. Or do you believe that the same coaching staff that was 11-2 in 2011 is incapable of repeating that success?
Uhm the 2011 team was RR's TEAM!!!! Hoke cannot take any credit for that OTHER then the Defense changes / success. RR would have went 11 - 1 if he was allowed one more season! Fat ass Borges, Funk and Fred Jackson Need their collective asses CANNED.
but let me get this straight...You want to give credit to this staff for the 11-2 season they had in their first year with an entire team of players who were coached and developed by a different coach, and you also want to blame that previous coach for the losses this staff is having three years after the fact? Do you see how absolutely ridiculous your position is?
To answer your question though, I do believe this coaching staff (as it stands now) is incapable of repeating that success.
Oh, and my point wasn't that Hoke was too successful early, it was that the team under his coaching has steadily regressed.
Not ridiculous if you take the time to look at the OL depth chart. RR's catastrophic OL recruiting was a roster time bomb - you don't see the impact of it until the OL he should have brought in would have been upperclassmen. For us, that time is now.
To make matters worse, TE's are also babies, since RR barely recruited that position.
Net result: our JV can't block the other team's varsity. Go figure.
Are you seriously suggesting that the measure of Borges and Funk as coaches is whether or not they can "coach up" freshmen and RS freshmen to manhandle juniors and seniors?
Let's not get on a never ending 3-year-cycle coaching carrousel. The dif between Hoke and RR is the quality of the recruits that Hoke is bringing in.
RR was not given extra money to hire top coordinators, not even enough to lure Casteel from WVU (and since he is with RR at Arizona, it seems certain he would have come here for more money), and Hoke was given enough to hire the very best. He used his money wisely with Greg Mattison and not so wisely with Borges. If RR had been given the go ahead to hire a Greg Mattison or even a Casteel, he would have had a fighting chance. He wasn't, and he didn't. Now its time to insure that Borges is gone!
RR should have suggested to Martin that he would forgo some salary to hire a better DC. Although as it turns out Greg Robinson is doing okay in Texas. Maybe RR shouldn't have dictated to the DC about things he knew little about.
Now this is like watching lions throwing 7 yards when they need 10 and it is the last play.
They do not know how to finish. The DEF played heck of a game. If I am GMatt, I walk over to AB and smack him in his head and ask him what the hell are you thinking when we need one frigging drive.
I knew it is over when they started Fitz. It didn't matter how much lead they had. When you don't take the momentum from previous game and use the RBs who did something and tell them that even if you had a good game in the last 4 weeks, I am going with my senior, because this is a pee vee league. That would not have happened with Meyer or Saban. You need a killer instinct. It does not mean you dump Fitz. Put him on a few plays as the third back. This whole loyalty crap is getting old. Same thing goes for DG. I feel for DG, but he did not make good decisions. It all started with ND game interception. It is in his head now. Either you got it or you don't. Watch Tom Brady or Peyton on the sidelines. They have the killer instinct.
All those drops by WRs didn't help either. Our coach just stands there and claps his hands. Watch Belichick after a bad series. He will be with his guys talking to them about the game plan and educating them. That guy has won more than anyone I can think of. May be Saban. A good leader will be hands-off until the time they need to intervene. None of these coordinators are going to ask you during the game. They have too much pride. You need to step in and help them out.
This whole thing starts at the top. Hoke needs to think with his brain and not with his heart. He needs to be critical of himself and his staff and decide. If he does that, I believe the guy will make changes. He is a good enough guy to do that. I really hoped that he will be talked as BO by generations to come. He just loves UM. But, it doesn't look good. He can still turn this around by tweaking his staff and changing certain philosophies (such as playing the best players, providing input during the games etc.)
Devin has 10 TDs to 3 int in B10 play, all be it he should have thrown 4 against Northwestern, not bad for a guy that probably has an average of 1.5 seconds to scan the field. If only he could learn to throw the ball away he could minimize the crazy down and distances we've faced this year. I'm not ready to throw this staff under the bus yet, even Al, I'd just like to see how we do w/ a true PP at QB and an O-line that's been in a strength and cond. program for more than 2 years. If Morris plays and plays well against ohio I hope there is an open competition for the spot next year, if only because real competition and the threat of losing your spot makes you a little more thoughtful of how you make decisions w/ the ball on the field.
Who's on the Schedule August 30,2014?
Appalachian State...Yes it could get worse.
there's all this sympathy for Gardner. He's a QB on a 7-4 team who runs away from contact (runs backwards several times a game), arm-punts passess into the wind to avoid more contact, and then runs with the ball in the wrong arm. Why doesn't Michigan play someone who wants to be on the field and respect the game with appropriate technique?
There are teams everywhere with losing records and no talent (neither condition applies to Michigan) who field gritty QBs who try to play the game right. This guy took a dive against MSU and has been running away from his job ever since.
After reading this blog and comments, if you don't get why so many have sympathy for Gardner, I don't know how else anyone could explain it to you. Certainly I don't have the strength. I almost have to think you are just trying to provoke people.
He runs away from contact, throws off his back foot, carries the ball in the wrong hand, and cries in press conferences. Who wants to follow that guy into a contest of the manly arts?
If it weren't go his heart we would have lost at least 3 more games. This program is broken, has been for years. Look at the overall offensive plan for the last 5 years or so, it's too reliant on the qb's legs to carry the team.
The only time he snapped was to defend his o line. That is pretty amazing since they are constantly getting him killed. Clearly he is not even close to 100% healthy. If you think otherwise, I just have to assume you never played a sport. Due to his being injured the defenses now completely disregard the threat of his legs. This makes it harder on his passing because if nothing's open it is harder for him to make a big play; keep the defense honest. We also make it worse when we use two TE and a FB to max protect due to our o line. This means Gardner only has two proven options both with two guys on them. He now has to throw into much tighter windows and feels like that is the only option because he can no longer run from the beating he has taken. Now add in the fact that a high school team could get through our o line he now has to throw before he is set, especially when we decide to have him turn his back!!(play action on 2nd and 3rd and long) this causes him to make quick bad reads and look even worse.
Gardners strengths was never to "throw like Peyton manning" so already he needs other skills to compensate for his weakness. He's lost those go to strengths. He's a kid who has gone jittery which can you blame him wholeheartedly? Maybe he could handle it better yes and maybe he could have better pocket presence yes, but now do you see why we have such sympathy for him? He is a trooper. But continue to call a college kid out who has withstood more pain than you have ever gone through. He is a kid who has given his all that was never going to be perfect, that the coaches in turn got him destroyed. This is why we feel as we do. If you still cannot see this I do not know what to tell you my friend...
DG has played extremely hard and has taken unbelievable punishment without complaining. For that I give him mad props. On the other hand, his QB skills--especially decision-making, are frankly just not very good. Now whether that's his fault personally or the coaching, we really will never know.
UM would have won a couple more...........can't have it both ways, Mike.
Bottom line? Hoke rhymes with broke and it is!
Is it too late for another "Three And Out"?
Everyone attacking DG at all ---
Rationalize the fact that he has acatually gotten WORSE under this staff, and so did our previous quarterback.
Denard was never going to be Johnny fucking Moxon, but imagine those years WITHOUT Denard. Imagine Morris in these games gettting hit like DG has been hit. Do you think he'd be able to keep composure? Name some quarterbacks that have to work with what DG has had to work with in regards to protection that would still even be WALKING without crutches at this point in the season. Look what happened to Morris when he had to fill denard's shoes against Nebraska, and
The one game where DG got time and wasn't running for his life, RECORDS WERE SET. I don't give two craps who the oppoenent was. Every team plays worse oppoents year in and year out and doesn't set those records.
Denard was special, he might not have been what you wanted, but his last years were under coaches who made him worse rather than better. The coaches who forced him to play to his own weaknesses while the losses piled up, and in the end didn't have a backup plan for when he did eventually go down. When he did make it back into the lineup, they misused him and set him up for even greater failure. They even found a way to bring him into the games when he came back and put up yards, then STOPPED USING WHAT WORKED. That kid WAS MICHIGAN FOOTBALL. He stuck with it, trusted his coaches, and got worse at the expense of what "the team" asked of him. Fuck anyone who says otherwise.
How much more evidence is needed? Am I delusional with this line of thought?
So in summary; Mary Sue Coleman, Dave Brandon, Brady Hoke, Al Borges, Funk and Jackson all need to be fired. Then they should hire John Harbaugh, who will keep Mattison, and a really awesome unnamed offensive coordinator who may or may not exist and then watch Michigan win the national championship next year. Magical rainbow farting unicorns are real, too.
From; The Huntsville Times
Note the bolded portion
Borges is out as Auburn offensive coordinator
Posted by Phillip Marshall, The Huntsville Times December 11, 2007 12:26 AM
Two seasons of offensive struggles have cost Al Borges his job as Auburn's offensive coordinator.
Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville told Borges last week of his decision to make a change. Borges has already left the Auburn staff and will not coach against Clemson in the Chick-fil-A Bowl on Dec. 31. There has been no official announcement from Auburn, but that will come soon. It is uncertain when Tuberville will name a replacement or who will coordinate the offense in the bowl game.
In going 8-4 in the regular season, Auburn scored two or fewer touchdowns in six of eight Southeastern Conference games and finished 101st out of 119 Division I-A teams with an average of 298.3 yards per game.
Michigan is starting 13 true freshmen, which is unheard of for a power program. It's damn near impossible to win 10-11 games with that.
Devin has taken a beating this year, but it just amuses me to see people still wanting to blame Al Borges for everything, when in the first quarter we saw a quick example of just how amusing it is that everyone thinks that. On 1st and 10, Gardner threw down the right sideline for Funchess, who ran a simple fly route. Funchess flat out drops the ball. On 2nd and 10, Michigan ran what looked like a screen (which for some reason people think here is the problem-solver) and Gardner one-hopped it. On 3rd and 10, the call is a screen, which is a reasonable call on 3rd and long. The back Toussaint is obliterated as he catches the ball because no linemen are willing to look around to, you know, block someone. Please explain to me how that series was Al's fault.
I've seen pretty much nothing about anyone complaining about the defense. The powers that run this blog have tried to brainwash us that Iowa is average/not good. They were definitely not good last season, but if I recall, haven't they beaten our ass 4 out of the past 5 seasons? Talk about not respecting your opponent. On Saturday they picked up 21 first downs. Twenty-one first downs. That's on Al Borges, right? 407 total offensive yards, 19-30 passing for a whopping 8 yards per pass. That's on Al Borges. 44 rushing attempts for 168 yards, which is 3.8 yards a clip, which is above average yards per carry to get a first down every 3 carries. I know, I know, that's on Al Borges.
I know why the offense is easier to critique. The camera follows the ball, so when there's an incomplete pass, or a sack, or run for loss, everyone can freely exclaim "WHY DID WE RUN THAT, THAT DIDN'T WORK DERRPP". But when the D gives up 400, it's not as infuriating, since far fewer viewers will watch which way the coverage rolls or the man-to-man matchups.
I know everybody's nice and pissed off and clearly didn't exercise the 24-hour rule, and put on Arizona-Oregon to see Rich Rodriguez match Michigan's record at 7-4, and then imitate the Israelites by saying we were better and improving under Rich Rod. Sure, record-wise, he was improving. But he alienated key people from the beginning, and sucked on top of that. There was no way he could NOT improve. Also bringing in guys like Ray Vinopal to play safety would just about keep Michigan at 7-5 forever. This is the worst season under Brady Hoke, and at worst it could finish 7-6. That's the best RR ever got to.
So let's just calm down. I think the HC, OC, and DC stay intact for one more season. I could see some position coaches go (that happens every year everywhere pretty much anyway, though), and see what 2014 brings. If it's 7-5 again and a whitewashing from Ohio, then yeah, let's revisit this.