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By Brian — August 7th, 2012 at 3:15 PM — 33 comments
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  • denard robinson
  • draftosnark
  • heiko is matt millen
  • james vandenberg
  • john simon
  • jonathan hankins
  • kawann short
  • kyle prater
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  • omg shirtless
  • taylor lewan
  • taylor martinez throws like a girl who can't throw a football

Incoming[1]

Brian Cook (mgoblog@gmail.com)
to Ace, Heiko, Seth

Subject: Re: the draft in which whoever drafts denard wins

I've been enraged by the weird six-round BTN draft that makes no sense and want to do it for our site as a sort of All Big Ten preseason preview gimmick post.

Rules: Inverse snake. Everyone drafts a full team of 11 offensive/defensive players, two kickers, a FB/HB type (assuming 3 WR), and a nickelback. You can move people around within reason (OL, DL, LB) but those moves will be looked upon skeptically by your fellow drafters and viciously attacked when it comes to make a case for your teams. Once the three other players have drafted a position, the last to go must pick the last player at that position within two rounds*.

When we are done we put the thing to a user vote after making our case. Whoever has Denard wins.

*[to prevent QBs going 1st, 2nd, third, and dead last. Example: third tailback off the board is the second pick of the third round. Fourth player does not have to draft a tailback until the fifth round, but must do so.]

I used random.org to set the draft order, which is:

ROUND 1

SETH, who will win since he will get Denard
ACE, who does not get Denard
HEIKO, who also does not get Denard
BRIAN, who also does not get Denard

BEGIN

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SETH

Wait don't I get time to think...?

denard-robinson-heisman-pose[1]denard-robinson-watch[1]

PICK: Denard Robinson, quarterback, MEEEEESHIGAN

CURRENT O: Denard Robinson (QB, M)

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CURRENT D: [players TBA]

BRIEF EXPLANATION: He can run. He can throw. And you can all eat crow. Not that this requires an explanation but I'll give one anyway: Robinson is a senior quarterback who might also be the Big Ten's best rusher. His passing game has suffered through growing pains of learning various offenses, which is to say the piper's bill has been paid and I get to reap the rewards of a more polished passer who understands many different concepts. The threat of him running opens up everything else, and now he has the experience to exploit everything else. He's a zero academic and personality risk, and the kind of guy you can build everything else upon.

OPTIONAL SNARK ABOUT PICKS MADE EARLIER: I'm gonna go giggle for awhile while you guys fight over Rex Burkhead or something.

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ACE

PICK: Montee Ball, running back, Wisconsin

855202506-wisconsin-running-montee-ball-28-breaks-touchdown-run-during-first[1]CURRENT O: Montee Ball (RB, UW)
CURRENT D: [players, eventually]

BRIEF EXPLANATION: For starters, Ball tied a record set by Barry Sanders (39 TDs in a season), which doesn't happen every day/year/decade. Everybody knows that Wisconsin is going to line up and hand the ball to, er, Ball, but he still managed to average 6.26 yards per carry last season. He's remarkably consistent: his 109 total yards against South Dakota represented his lowest total in the 2011 season. Also, has not lost a fumble in 617 career touches. If I can't have Denard (*shakes fist in Seth's general direction*), I'll take being able to hand it off to this guy 25 times a game.

OPTIONAL SNARK ABOUT PICKS MADE EARLIER: Ha, good one.

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HEIKO

136341940PICK: Braxton Miller, quarterback, Ohio State

Current O: Braxton Miller (QB, OSU)
Current D: Offense.

BRIEF EXPLANATION: Braxton Miller should approach the production of 2010 Denard Robinson. OSU RB Jordan Hall will be iffy the first few games coming off a foot laceration, so Miller is going to have to account for a lot of the ground game because he is the team's other most effective rusher. He's also a quarterback (Dear Jim Bollman:
Surprise!). When he was actually allowed to throw during the most recent spring game, he went 24/31 for 258 yards. That's pretty good for having just a month to learn Urban Meyer's offense. With another fall camp's worth of practice and the luxury of a real defense, staying healthy will be Miller's only obstacle to having a monster season.

Yes I lifted this from 11W.

OPTIONAL SNARK ABOUT PICKS MADE EARLIER: Shotty Zach Boren.

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BRIAN

taylor_lewan77[1]PICKS: Taylor Lewan, LT, Michigan and John Simon, DE, Ohio State.

CURRENT O: Taylor Lewan (LT, M)
CURRENT D: John Simon (DE, OSU)

BRIEF EXPLANATION: With spread quarterbacks I actually want gone I'll go the Tony Gonzalez route and draft the guy with the most relative value left on the board. That's Lewan, the Big Ten's only elite pass protector this year. He also doubles as a donkey-mauling run blocker. He's deflecting NFL draft speculation before his junior year even happens, and he's an offensive lineman. Whoever I get at QB will have a clean blindside all day. And will suck. But whatever.

With the first pick of the second round, I'll grab John Simon, the muscle-bound OSU SDE who's the 2012 version of Mike Martin in terms of interior-ish defensive linemen who will not stay blocked. 17 TFLs a year ago and seven sacks, and he's poised to increase those numbers to the 20 TFL level as he moves from "LEO"—OSU's label for WDE—to the strongside position that's a better fit for him. He doesn't have NFL size but he does show up to work out at approximately the time I'm going to sleep.

OPTIONAL SNARK ABOUT PICKS MADE EARLIER: Montee Ball is a product of the Wisconsin offensive line and is liable to have five unknown assailants tackle him for loss on any given play. GAMES ARE WON IN THE TRENCHES AAAAAAAAHHHHH.

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71465275DD763_Lion_BearHEIKO

PICK: Taylor Martinez, quarterback, Nebraska.

CURRENT O: Braxton Miller (QB, OSU), Taylor Martinez (QRB, Nebraska)
CURRENT D: Just you wait.

BRIEF EXPLANATION: Whoa whoa whoa WHOA. Did I just draft two quarterbacks? [Pause for effect] Yes I did. But that's not allowed! Yes it is. You said we could move offensive players around within reason, so I'm drafting Martinez as a running back. So what if he had fewer than 1,000 yards as a rusher last season? He's clearly masteredthe art of the halfback pass. 3,000 yards of total offense? Yes, please.

OPTIONAL SNARK ABOUT PICKS MADE EARLIER: BWAHAHAHA bet you didn't see that coming.

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ACE

93096762_display_image[1]PICK: James Vandenberg, quarterback, Iowa

CURRENT O: James Vandenberg (QB, IA), Montee Ball (RB, UW)
CURRENT D: [Functional equivalent of 2009-10 GERG outfits]

BRIEF EXPLANATION: I planned on going defense with my second pick, but after Heiko's one-man run on quarterbacks I wasn't willing to risk getting stuck with, like, Caleb TerBush. So, the pick is Vandenberg, the B1G's winner by default in the "best pocket passer" category. Aside from Denard, Vandenberg is the conference's returning leader in total offense and passing efficiency, and he also takes care of the football, throwing just seven interceptions in 404 attempts last year. With Ball in the backfield to take care of all the running, that's all I need from a quarterback.

OPTIONAL SNARK ABOUT PICKS MADE EARLIER: Heiko's next pick will be Matt McGloin, cornerback, Penn State.

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SETH

Holy hell guys, way to leave me dudes I never planned on getting, thus forcing me to re-think my entire draft strategy for all of three minutes before doing what I meant to do anyway.

kawaan-short[1]PICKS: Kawann Short, defensive tackle, Purdue; and Johnathan Hankins, defensive tackle, Ohio State

CURRENT O: Denard Robinson (QB, M)
CURRENT D: Kawann Short (DT, PU), Johnathan Hankins (DT, OSU)

BRIEF EXPLANATION: Running backs and running quarterbacks are flying off the board and I'm leaving the last Big Ten Heisman hopeful in order to make sure none of this so-called "rushing" goes down the middle of my defense. What I've won are the two most likely guys in the conference after John Simon to go in the NFL's first round to be my three-tech and nose tackle, respectively.

Kawaan Short is a Ndamukong Suh-like hell-raiser in the interior who sometimes lines up at end and is only limited by having to suck up doubles all the time. To that end I have given him Johnathan Hankins (damn Archie Collins to a special ring of hell), a true nose tackle who forced Ohio State's opponents to run outside all season. My defensive line is already up to 120 tackles, 27 TFLs, and 8.5 sacks (2011 stats), and I haven't even drafted the ends yet!!!

OPTIONAL SNARK ABOUT PICKS MADE EARLIER: Hey boss, I want you to know that I had nothing to do with this conspiracy to make you choose Nathan Scheelhaase as your 4th round pick (you made the rule!). Meanwhile Heiko has selected a QB controversy between two guys I wouldn't want, and Ace seems to be building something that has 4 tight ends.

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ACE

Chris Borland De Anthony Thomas Rose Bowl 8GpZD_Tq32Nl[1]PICK: Chris Borland, LB, Wisconsin

CURRENT O: Montee Ball (RB, UW), James Vandenberg (QB, IA)
CURRENT D: Chris Borland (LB, UW)

BRIEF EXPLANATION: Well, I had planned on taking a defensive tackle here, but Seth appears determined to recreate Michigan's 2010 offense of Denard left, Denard right, Denard up the middle. Instead, I'll happily settle for Borland, who amassed 143 tackles—19 of them for a loss—from the middle linebacker position in 2011. If my team ends up being comprised mostly of Wisconsin players, I like my chances at winning this thing, if there is indeed any way of winning besides "draft Denard, win" (I'm guessing not).

OPTIONAL SNARK ABOUT PICKS MADE EARLIER: Seriously, Heiko, I hear Nathan Scheelhaase is a beast at defensive end.

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HEIKO

tumblr_m57n0y2SL81r8h6rlo1_1280[1]PICK: Kyle Prater, WR, Northwestern [ED: omg shirtless and lookin' like that dude from Scrubs]

CURRENT O: Braxton Miller (QB, OSU), Taylor Martinez (QRB, UNL), Kyle Prater(WR, NU)
CURRENT D: yawn.

BRIEF EXPLANATION: I'm at lab, so I don't have a whole lot of time to carefully mull over a decision, but I do know one thing: the B1G doesn't have receivers this season. While Prater is a completely unproven commodity, he is likely to immediately become the most dominant receiver in the conference. Given Northwestern's pass-happy spread (perhaps a little less pass-happy with the departure of Dan Persa), Prater's immediate debut at the No. 1 spot on the depth chart, and his 5-star ranking (which, according to the Mathlete, matters for receivers), what's not to like? Sometimes you have to invest in potential, and this penny stock is about to go Apple on all y'all.

OPTIONAL SNARK ABOUT PICKS MADE EARLIER: Wisconsin's run defense was crap last year. Also, more than half of Borland's 143 tackles were assisted. They call him a "throwback" because pudgy 5'11 linebackers were last effective circa the Reagan administration. But I hear he's a beast at fullback, which is what you drafted him to be, right?

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BRIAN

kawaan-short[1]PICKS: QB Nathan Scheelhaase (Illinois), LB Denicos Allen(MSU)

CURRENT O: Nathan Scheelhaase (QB, Ill), Taylor Lewan (LT, M)
CURRENT D: DE John Simon (DE, OSU), Denicos Allen (LB, MSU)

BRIEF EXPLANATION: Ace, what is going on, man? You could have had your QB on the way back since I'm the only one without one and not forced me to take... ugh...  Nathan Scheelhaase in round 4/5. We could have merrily played chicken for round after round. Anyway: I am not that broken up about taking Scheelhaase since he's got good legs and completed 62% of his passes last year and is a third-year starter and... aw, damn my rules DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL.

Obligatory QB out of the way, I'm taking the actual best pass rusher on Michigan State's defense, LB/missile Denicos Allen. Unlike Borland, my 5'11" LB is fast as hell and has the eyepopping stats to prove it: 11 sacks, 18.5 TFLs, multiple frustrating forays directly past the center of the Michigan offensive line. This guy is Larry Foote again, and he was just a sophomore last year.

OPTIONAL SNARK ABOUT PICKS MADE EARLIER: I have no snark because I'm shaking my ragefist at Heiko for taking Kyle Prater, who was going to be my secret weapon six rounds from now. And Ace, for forcing me to take Scheelhaase this early, and Seth for getting Denard. I am a defeated man. GAMES ARE WON IN THE TRENCHES AND AT WLB AAAAAAAAAH.

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To be continued whenever Heiko figures out where he's going to put Rob Henry, Kain Colter, and Devin Gardner, Brian stops screaming "NO THROW IT FORWARD" at Scheelhaase, Ace gets the slightest grasp on game theory, and Seth decides his entire team will be fat guys from Ice Hockey.

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August 7th, 2012 at 3:30 PM | Whatever the hell this whole (Score:5 Normal)
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Whatever the hell this whole thing is, I absolutely love it.

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August 7th, 2012 at 3:41 PM | Are you guys drunk? (Score:5 Normal)
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Wish I was drunk.

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August 7th, 2012 at 3:42 PM | Yo this is hilarious (Score:5 Normal)
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Can this happen for at least basketball too please?

Avatar is a reference to this. Go Blue!

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August 7th, 2012 at 3:46 PM | I'll bet 10 points on Heiko. (Score:5 Normal)
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I'll bet 10 points on Heiko.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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August 7th, 2012 at 3:47 PM | The anti Bo Rics (Score:2)
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Should have went with team Flow. Team Flow would have won this thing. 

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August 7th, 2012 at 3:48 PM | Yeah I really enjoyed reading (Score:2 Normal)
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Yeah I really enjoyed reading this.

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August 7th, 2012 at 3:49 PM | I picture (Score:5 Normal)
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The dialog to be exactly like a video chat from an episode of The League. Next episode, Ace insists his butthole is a better commissioner than Brian, and Seth finds hilarious videos of Heiko's workout fads over the years and makes a montage.

Football is both an identity and a terminal illness. A rhythm and a chaos and an opiate for the mind all at once.

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August 7th, 2012 at 3:51 PM | You should draft coaches. (Score:5 Normal)
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You should draft coaches. Limit it to former Indiana coaches if you want to make things interesting.

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August 7th, 2012 at 3:59 PM | Throw former ND coaches in the mix too (Score:2)
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And you've got the makings of an awesome draft. Of course, Brian needs someone with an arm....

"Over? Did you say, over? Nothing is over until we decide it is!"

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August 7th, 2012 at 4:00 PM | Ugh... (Score:0 Trolling)
DCBlue
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This reminds me of Bill Simmons article.

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August 7th, 2012 at 4:01 PM | Please never show a picture (Score:1)
Baldbill
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Please never show a picture of Matt Millen wearing a Honolulu Blue tie...wait, never show a picture of Matt Millen wearing anything associated with the Detroit Lions...wait, never show a picture of Matt Millen again, please.

I am trying to block out that of my mind forever.

 

Semper Fidelis

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August 7th, 2012 at 4:06 PM | What is up with the (Score:2 Normal)
Logan88
Joined: 01/05/2009
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What is up with the Dual-threat QB love? No one fancies classic drop back passers anymore? Braxton Miller as the 3rd pick overall? Am I on 11 Warriors? Didn't he have a game last year where he only completed one pass all game? What's the record for consecutive questions asked in a post?

We ARE Michigan....COME GET SOME!!!

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August 7th, 2012 at 4:18 PM | Fantasy football (Score:3 Normal)
JeepinBen
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Wins don't matter, stats do. Yards passing and rushing and TDs, that's what you want.

Although, why did Brian draft a LT? I'll be honest, I have no idea what they're doing.

"Over? Did you say, over? Nothing is over until we decide it is!"

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August 7th, 2012 at 10:07 PM | seems (Score:2)
jaggs
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like it's more of a 'we'll draft guys and see who can build the team most likely to win on the field based on its makeup' type thing. Well that, and 'have Denard'.

Also, so far rankings are as follows:

1. Seth - Denard and the begininngs of a stout D

2. Brian - despite getting stuck with Scheelhause, getting elite guys every where else

3. Ace - Game theory, bro! Should have Short plugging the middle for you.

4. Heiko - Seems like a some type of crazy experiment. You'd really rather T-Magic at RB then Fitz? or Le'Veon Bell?

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August 7th, 2012 at 7:19 PM | Maybe it's the lack of drop-back passers? (Score:3 Normal)
Jonadan
Joined: 09/03/2011
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I mean, other than at Iowa, where James Vandenberg at quarterback gives them the most Iowa-named quarterback ever, which QBs in the conference are actually going to be dropping back and throwing the rock?

McGloin at PSU, probably, given the new coach's pedigree.  Maxwell at MSU I would assume, though I haven't paid attention.  Maybe whoever hands off to Ball at Wisconsin.

As for Miller... well, even if the OSU game last year is his upside, that's not a bad upside all things considered.

"When you absolutely don't know what to do any more, then it's time to panic." - Johann van der Wiel

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August 7th, 2012 at 4:28 PM | This was an interesting read, (Score:1 Normal)
HttV Wolverine
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This was an interesting read, to say the least. I look forward to reading the next part in this glorious story.

“What the mind can conceive, the mind can achieve and those who stay will be champions.” - Bo 

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August 7th, 2012 at 4:35 PM | Holy hell, you're not kidding (Score:2)
Needs
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Holy hell, you're not kidding about that BTN draft. It's completely unclear what the hell they're trying to do (not that the draft 'o snark is particularly more clear. More entertaining, yes).

It is wonderful, however, that the Penn State writer drafted three Penn State players with his first three picks. Which... 1. what an incredible bubble State College is. and 2. two of those first three players (Redd and Justin Brown) have subsequently transferred. The third was McGloin (taken with his 2nd pick.) 3. His final pick was a two star freshman tight end.

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August 7th, 2012 at 4:41 PM | Prater in the third round? (Score:2 Normal)
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Prater in the third round? Yikes. I know he was a 5-star and all but he hasn't played a meaningful snap since h.s.

A Spartan

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August 7th, 2012 at 4:42 PM | I recall (Score:1 Normal)
909Dewey
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an old SNL skit with John Lovitz as Pablo Picasso signing scibblings and trying to pass them off as art. At the end he blows his nose and signs the tissue yelling "I'm Picasso!"

Sometimes you get "The Old Guitarist" and sometimes you get Kleenex. This post is Kleenex.

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August 7th, 2012 at 9:14 PM | Actually it's genius. He's (Score:3 Normal)
Seth
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Actually it's genius. He's got his entire editorial staff scrambling to become freakish experts on every Big Ten player right before the season starts. By the time we were on to him we already had detailed draft boards and mapped out strategies and all we could do in return is plot how to ruin his team.

(Blogger alias: "Misopogon") This team is under construction. We thank you for your patience.

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August 7th, 2012 at 11:02 PM | The genius (Score:-1 Overrated)
909Dewey
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is lost on me.  Is this supposed to be funny or serious?  If serious, assembling four pseudo all B1G teams isn't very interesting.  If funny, this is pretty weak sauce.  Am I missing a joke somewhere?  Anyway I have high expectations for both Michigan football and Mgoblog, leadership means being accountable to those expectations.  Brian should have sent his staff out to SEAL training.

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August 7th, 2012 at 11:50 PM | 1. No givIng that man any (Score:4 Normal)
Seth
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1. No givIng that man any more ideas. I have enough respect for SEALS to keep my blogging ass away from them and enough respect for 20-year old DI athletes to not pretend I can do things they can. John Bacon actually is a bit of an athlete and a few Barwis workouts nearly killed him.

2. The purpose is to be informative and fun. Mostly it's a rundown of the league and descriptions of the players in it from a perspective other than MSM pre-season watch lists. You're seeing us rate and describe the best players among our opponents and our opponents' opponents from a perspective of how valuable they are to their respective systems, for example why are some OTs sought after by spread coaches more than others would be in the NFL draft, or where do M's players rank among their conference peers?

3. Genius because like any fantasy team owner we are learning a lot about the players we will be covering all year, thus we'll be more informed this season when it comes time to write previews and analysis.

(Blogger alias: "Misopogon") This team is under construction. We thank you for your patience.

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August 8th, 2012 at 12:39 AM | Agreed (Score:1)
Gabranto
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Seth, I have to agree with you. This is a great way to get a more indepth look at the best players in the conference.

Also your team is going to win, Kawann Short is a stud

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August 8th, 2012 at 8:45 AM | The disconnect (Score:0 Redundant)
909Dewey
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reveals itself.  I have never played fanatasy football in my life.  Perhaps I could appreciate this more if that were not the case.  Carry on.

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August 8th, 2012 at 11:06 AM | I have no idea what the "goal" of the "competition" is myself (Score:2)
M-Wolverine
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But the snark and references to each other was and is worth its weight in gold.  So while totally confusing, it was also totally entertaining.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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August 7th, 2012 at 7:24 PM | Seth is winning. (Score:1)
Mat
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Looking forward to reading more

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August 7th, 2012 at 8:48 PM | Wait a minute......Purdue has (Score:2)
Lionsfan
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Wait a minute......Purdue has a sports blog dedicated to them?

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

StraightDave owes me a steak dinner

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August 7th, 2012 at 9:10 PM | Hard to believe, but it does (Score:2)
BlueDragon
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Hard to believe, but it does happen.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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August 8th, 2012 at 1:00 AM | I like Seths team so far. Not (Score:2)
KevbosLastingLessons
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I like Seths team so far. Not because of denard, but because he has two first round defensive tackles on his team with a bevy of pass rushers still available.

Final Four Thoughts!

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August 8th, 2012 at 2:07 AM | Best Tag (Score:3 Normal)
MichiganMan2424
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"heiko is matt millen"

Practice makes perfect. Unless you're the Buckeyes. Then you have to cheat.

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August 8th, 2012 at 7:16 AM | That. Was. (Score:2)
GoBlue1991
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Way too entertaining. I'm a little ashamed for how entertained I was.

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August 8th, 2012 at 9:32 AM | Marqueis Gray was a pretty decent receiver (Score:1)
WoodleySmash
Joined: 06/25/2012
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You know you want to, Heiko

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August 8th, 2012 at 12:42 PM | F. Forgot about him. I (Score:2)
Heiko
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F. Forgot about him. I drafted Gardner instead. Sonofa whatever it's fine. I think Gardner's a better athlete anyway. 

@Heiko25

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