Infamy Is Immortality Too Comment Count

Brian

11/8/2014 – Michigan 10, Northwestern 9 – 5-5, 3-3 Big Ten

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College football is for remembering. It stands alone in its brevity—even the NFL has you play your division-mates twice. Every year you play a team and then you have glory or death until next year. You can pick any game of remote interest and your friend will say "oh, THAT game" because it is also lodged in his brain.

This happens in other sports but as you add in more and more games, more and more of them are thrown down the memory hole. Hell, even last year's highly memorable basketball season has a number of events in it that I couldn't tell you anything about without looking it up. We beat Stanford? I guess we did.

In football the only things that disappear like that are the tomato can games. Others are notable only in the context of some guy's career. If I say "the Jerome Jackson game" you know it's that Iowa game Michigan won in overtime. "That one time Alain Kashama did something" was the Citrus Bowl win over Ron Zook's Florida. There are of course the titanic battles whose aftershocks rattle down the centuries, and depressing blowouts and fun blowouts and etc.

And then there's this game. This game will also rattle down the centuries, for… reasons. You will poke your buddy and say "hey man remember the M00N game," carefully enunciating the zeroes, and your buddy will either laugh or give you a sharp punch on the arm, depending on his mood.

Immortality comes in all kinds of ways.

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FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU [Bryan Fuller]

Well, I'm in this to be entertained. And I cannot deny that Saturday was highly entertaining.

By the time the teams had exchanged boggling turnovers at the end of the first half I was giggling. The field goal block sent me into chuckles. The fumble of off Funchess's hip got me up to a guffaw, and when Northwestern followed a boggling Gardner interception by going backwards 30 yards and punting into the endzone I had to lie down and remember to breathe.

It was disappointing when M00N ceased being a potential final score, but at least it came on a terrible error—a muffed punt. Anything skillful breaking the deadlock would have been unjust. My wife was peeved, because she is not a True Fan™ and wanted to see a 0-0 regulation. I kind of did, too. Not every day you see something like that.

It is every day that Michigan finds itself in a football game hardly recognizable as sports. When you bring up the M00N game to your buddy you will probably be making a point about the descent into unwatchable dreck that was the last two years of the mercifully short Hoke era.

This is Hoke's version of RichRod's gloriously futile 67-65 win over Illinois. Both games were narrow, pyrrhic victories over bad opponents punctuated by two-point conversion stops. Both showed off the abilities of the team's good unit against an overmatched opponent and the total lack of ability of the team's miserable unit. And both were the same kind of delirious fun that sees you wake up naked in a haystack the next morning, with no idea where you are or even what month it is. Or where your hair is.

Nothing about that Illinois game changed Rodriguez's trajectory, and this won't move any needles either. Michigan's been plunged into a disaster of their own making and shows no signs of climbing out. That they've encountered a couple of teams even more BIG TEN(!) than themselves of late says more about the league than this outfit. It's no surprise that the other two teams Michigan's beaten in Big Ten play faced off in one of the ugliest games of the year immediately before M00N.

At least we've got a symbol now. Any time anyone wants to reference how far Michigan's come since they led the nation in TFLs allowed and somehow got worse the next year just needs two letters and a couple zeroes.

HIGHLIGHTS?

Via MGoVideo:

[After THE JUMP: but what if Hoke wins out?]

OTHER BITS

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Hoke back? Pat Fitzgerald handing out hot dogs has an equal chance of being Michigan's coach next year [Bryan Fuller]

Par for the course. With much of last week given over to insider types saying But What If Hoke Wins Out (Or Makes A Bowl), I guess we have to talk about But What If Hoke Wins Out (Or Makes A Bowl).

It doesn't matter. Or, at least it shouldn't matter.

Michigan's wins this year are over Appalachian State, Miami (Not That Miami), a sanctions-crippled Penn State, Indiana down to its fifth string QB, and now Northwestern. They have been blown out in four of their five losses, with the fifth coming against Rutgers. There is no combination of results left that looks like anything other than a huge regression in year four, and nobody is going to buy the narrative of improvement after wins like Saturday's. Even if Michigan plays like an entirely different team against Ohio State and beats the Buckeyes, it's still over.

I can guarantee none of this. The last time I guaranteed anything based on common sense I was promising everyone Brady Hoke had a 0.0% chance of being hired. Not so much. And we know nothing about Jim Hackett.

But you know what just went out? Season ticket deposit letters. You know what's not getting sent back immediately? Way more of those than usual. That more than anything else will demand a change.

In case you're Marcus Ray. Ohio State just annihilated Michigan State's defense to the tune of 49 points to take a commanding lead in the division race. They did this with:

  • A redshirt freshman QB
  • Two sophomores in the backfield
  • An OL with 11 collected years on campus compared to Michigan's 10

The only area in which OSU is more experienced than Michigan is at WR, where they have a couple seniors in Evan Spencer and Devin Smith plus a fifth-year TE, and even there Michigan has third-year players.

This is not Rodriguez's fault. Hell, the OL has gone two weeks without allowing any pressure at all. And it's not Devin Gardner's fault that there's no quarterback on the roster who's even vaguely plausible as a replacement.

The final play. Michigan had it dead to rights. Clark bolted for the corner on the snap; the America's-rollout-out guy was bracketed, and Delano Hill had the throwback option to the tight end:

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Northwestern had run a similar play on a third down conversion earlier and had a two point attempt in last year's game that was pretty close; Michigan was prepped for it. Mattison has pulled out the right playcalls in critical situations against Northwestern—remember the weird 3-3-5 that stuffed Northwestern's triple option a couple years back?  

WTFunchess. Two flat-out drops that hampered the Michigan offense even more than usual. He doesn't seem to be there mentally… though I can't say he's 100% checked out after watching a replay of the second Gardner interception and seeing him run 80 yards just to hit Campbell as hard as possible. But he's not playing at all like the guy who's supposedly a first round draft pick.

OL tho? No sacks and very little pressure for a second straight week; the run blocking was okay. I did not think the OL had a good outing against Indiana on the ground, but they did pick up a ton of six man pressures. I don't think that's going to mean too much against OSU's rampant DL, unfortunately.

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Smith undoubtedly ground out three more yards here [Fuller]

Smith vs Johnson. Michigan's battle of the running backs with the generic names went to Smith. Smith's prime ability is grinding through piles of limbs to pick up two more yards after contact than is reasonable to acquire and it was on frequent display in this one. He's real slow and has those vision issues, but he was pretty effective in this game.

I don't really blame him for the fourth down stuff since he's in a situation where he needs six inches and a bounce, while profitable in retrospect, is much more variable. If AJ Williams doesn't fall over we aren't talking about this because Michigan gets a first down. Yes, he's slow. He can't do anything about that.

Meanwhile, Michigan tried to get Johnson outside. He got a lot of counter stuff and other plays that test the edge as Michigan deployed his speed. That was dubiously effective once Northwestern figured it out, and then Johnson fumbled.

Hayes disappeared again and like… whatever man.

Interceptions. The Butt one wasn't the worst thing in the world. Ryan's pick was pretty horrendous on Siemian's part, and then Gardner's second interception was just… wow. Northwestern had busted hard and left Bo Dever wide open just next to Canteen; Gardner did not read it.

The play of the game. Mason Cole got over to cease Campbell's INT return, thus saving Michigan a full seven points despite that tackle coming on the 20.

Frank Clark & Jake Ryan. Hi guys. Sorry you have to be on this team instead of one with a functional offense.

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Best And Worst:

It was just a terrible game.  And it just sucked all around for both teams, particularly on offenses.  Devin Gardner had the worst passing performance this year against the Wildcats, and that includes an under-fire Christian Hackenberg, the yipp-tacular combined efforts of Wisconsin QBs, and whomever was the 8th-string walk-on Poli Sci QB who took the last three snaps of NW's preseason scrimmage.  He threw 2 really bad INTs, had a couple more passes that should have been picked (including one that should have been taken to the house to end the first half), and never looked comfortable with any of his receivers.

I cannot stress how bad of a performance this was; I will always defend Devin Gardner in aggregate, but in this game Michigan could have replaced him with a trebuchet made out of Gatorade bottles, athletic tape, Ro*Tel cheese, and Haas avocados and gotten a more complete performance out of a field general.  I hope something comes out during this off week that he's injured, that he lost a contact in the first quarter and didn't have a free pair, that an international cabal is holding someone he cares hostage, something to explain how he went 11/24 for 109 yards and 2 interceptions, resulting in a QBR rating of 5.2.  To put that into perspective, Joel Stave's 8/19-115 yards-1 TD/3 INT performance against NW was a 10.1.

Inside the Box Score:

Michigan's defense held Northwestern to 95 yards total for their first 13 drives. 95 yards in 51 plays; that's less than 2 yards per play. (I is good at math.) One drive lasted 9 plays. One drive lasted 7 plays. No other drives lasted more than 6 plays. So, of course, on Northwestern's last two drives, they go 95 yards in 19 plays and 74 yards in 14 plays. 169 yards in 33 plays. That's better than 5 yards per play after demonstrating complete futility all game long. Of course that happened, because this was the Michigan-Northwestern game.

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Hoover Street Rag:

In the end, Michigan won.  Michigan has lost just four times to Michigan in their last 35 meetings.  I have clear and vivid memories of each of those four losses:
2008: Fandom Endurance III
2001: A-Train Fumble
1996: We just lost to you LAST YEAR!
1995: Luther Van Dammit
The only other team that I have this precise a memory of losses to is Minnesota, and that is mostly Jug related.  If you'd like to make the argument that Michigan should be 0-3 against Northwestern over the last three years, you'd very well be on to something.  And yet, here we are.  Football is a strange game, deserving to win does not assure that you will.  Northwestern did everything they could to give this game to Michigan, and Michigan did everything they could to give the game back to Northwestern.

M Go Girl:

It's that love/hate/respect fine line you could feel during the Schembechler years that we're missing now. I don't feel we need a carbon copy of Bo or Woody or Bear or Ara to be great again. We need someone who's going to be tough, sometimes hated, often loved, and always respected. Who that is, I don't know. Jim Harbaugh would certainly have some of those traits. I'm sure there are others who would, too.

Touch The Banner:

Offensive line improvement. Michigan fans may not like to hear it, but this offensive line is getting better. The Wolverines did a good job of keeping pressure off of Gardner, and they were opening up decent-sized holes in the running game. Northwestern did not get a ton of penetration, and while they don't have any huge playmakers on the defensive line, this still represents a step forward for Michigan. Fans who want head coach Brady Hoke and offensive line coach Darrell Funk gone after this season are not gathering convincing evidence on the field from the offensive line. Of course, Michigan's skill players aren't doing much with the holes provided, either.

Sap's Decals:

DE’VEON SMITH – Now you know why coaches like Bo and Bill Parcells loved to have a strong running game. When you can close out a game, or at least milk the clock, it puts pressure on the opposing team to either use all their timeouts late in the game or drive the length of the field to win. Smith has given the Michigan offense the strength and stability it desperately needs – especially when U-M’s QB is basically playing on one leg.

The Daily's Alexa Dettelbach:

…most glaring of all, in Michigan’s ugly, ugly, ugly 10-9 win Saturday, was that Brady Hoke wasn’t doing much clapping during the game. And when Hoke isn’t clapping, you know you have a problem. The players certainly seem to recognize that much.

Pat Fitzgerald is feeling some heat now. Northwestern fans are wondering about kicking the field goal from the four, for one. At least the third down wasn't, like, supposed to be a checkdown:

Fitz said that the seemingly inexplicable short throw on third-and-goal before the field goal was a max blitz and Trevor Siemian checked it down. Siemian confirmed it was a checkdown. "Probably should have just thrown it into the endzone and given our guys a chance."

Lake The Posts:

By now you can imagine how nuts my own wife thinks I am. After tailgating all morning and lugging our three girls to a marathon of a Northwestern-Michigan game at Ryan Field she has had more than enough. My 9-year-old daughter turned to me before the start of the fourth quarter and said “Daddy, I think these are two pretty bad teams playing a very bad game”.  I didn’t know what to say other than “I agree”.

Michigan is playing with "nothing to lose," which is… accurate. More on the last play from Clark.

Basketball? Basketball.

Comments

MonkeyMan

November 10th, 2014 at 12:06 PM ^

Infamy is indeed immortality- and a lowlight can be the highlight of a season. Good comedy is harder to write than good drama- and so a game like this is worth remembering. 

These kids will have memories of their time at UM- its good that they find the best way to see these events. I think they should laugh at and cherish this game for the rest of their lives. 

Not everything is about winning- just being part of the show is a victory. 

And they won anyway.

creelymonk10

November 10th, 2014 at 12:12 PM ^

I was very impressed with Delano Hill's coverage on the America's-rollout 2 point conversion. They killed us all day on the out pattern, and even after seeing the TE fall down, Hill still stuck with him going backside. If they scored on that throwback to the TE that would've been such a Michigan way to lose this year. Good on him, and for Frank Clark and JMFR for making some money this weekend.

bronxblue

November 10th, 2014 at 1:29 PM ^

Funchess seems to have fallen into a weird funk in recent weeks.  I suspect it has something to do with being blitheringly wide open multiple times a game just to see Gardner throw a checkdown to Justice Hayes for 2 yards, but I could be wrong.

Clark looked like a star in this game, and Ryan should be moved to the outside and then unleashed on passing downs until he's 100.  Like with Denard finally getting some good play in the NFL, I suspect UM's best players will look better in the pros once people who know how to use them get them a couple of reps.

ak47

November 10th, 2014 at 12:18 PM ^

The last two drives were why people in baltimore wanted mattison gone.  He completely changes the way he call defenses and loves the 3 man rush soft coverage.  Have a team with a long 3rd down inside its own 10 that can't block you? rush 3.  It makes no sense.

worstever

November 10th, 2014 at 3:04 PM ^

IIRC during the mid 3rd to 4th quarters, NW went to more of a quick passing game (3 step drops) which worked decently and thus mitigating the pash rush...but to that point Mattison did not readjust until they had driven down the field (with the help of a few good Simien throws).

ontarioblue

November 10th, 2014 at 12:24 PM ^

"Michigan was playing like they had nothing to lose".  Seriously?  That is what someone could call desperation football?  That game looked and smelled like two teams playing a game that neither side wanted to be playing.  This game made the Toledo debacle in 2008 look like a National Champship Game.  Neither defense is great, but both offenses are so bad, they make defenses look like the Dikta Bears.

nappa18

November 10th, 2014 at 12:23 PM ^

I ve never laughed watching a Michigan football game before Saturday's debacle. And I ve been watching, in person and on TV, for over 45 years. Comical. BTW, was Saturday's regulation play worse then last year, the 9-9 tie forged by Dileos slide and simaltaneous spot. Close. Don t know. What do you think?

Blue in Yarmouth

November 10th, 2014 at 12:24 PM ^

I have to say I'm getting a little sick of comments like the one Magnus made at TTB. I'm sure there is a very small group of people who want Hoke to be fired so badly that they don't want to see success of any kind out of this football team until he is gone. For most of us though, the fact that the o-line is looking better is a nice surprise.

Some of that might be due to the belief that after the MSU game it really didn't matter how things play out down the stretch BH is gone, but even if it weren't the case I am always happy to see UM players showing they've progressed. 

So in short, please stop trying to imply that all but a few "real" fans want this team to fail just so BH can be fired. The fact is all of us would much rather have seen BH be a success at UM but the last 4 years have shown us that won't be the case. Maybe we're just smart enough to see that before one of the resident football geniuses on the board. 

Magnus

November 10th, 2014 at 12:44 PM ^

I put a poll up at TTB. 50% of respondents want Hoke fired at the end of the year. 20% want him fired right now. 4% want him fired if he loses one more time this year. 24% of them want Hoke to be given another year.

So when 70% of people (at least those who visit my site) think his fate should already be sealed, I don't think it's a stretch to say "Michigan fans think _________."

Blue in Yarmouth

November 10th, 2014 at 1:11 PM ^

You were implying that UM fans won't be happy to know that a certain position group is making some progress because it doesn't further their agenda. I believe (as do many others from what I've read) that BH's fate should already be sealed regardless what transpires from this point forward.

That doesn't mean that we want everything related to the program to regress just so that happens. I can think a position group or two could show progress, be happy for them and still believe that BH should be fired IMHE.

Magnus

November 10th, 2014 at 1:18 PM ^

Well, that's great, but I don't think a lot of people want to hear that the offense is coming together. Because, frankly, the offense is the problem. If people see progress on offense, they're more likely to say "Well, the defense has been pretty good, so if the offense is improving, then why make a change?" I see what you're saying, but I also see a lot of evidence that people want this regime to crash and burn so there's no hope for Hoke to return.

Blue in Yarmouth

November 10th, 2014 at 1:27 PM ^

that your post was pretty innocuous and it was more of "last straw" than anything, so I apologize. I think that there are probably a few people that really do want UM to fail on every level to insure Hoke gets fired, but I don't feel that is the majority of those of us who sit on that side of the fence. 

First and foremost I want this team to succeed and couldn't care less about who is the coach on the sidelines. It just seems evident to me that BH isn't a guy who can get this program to where we all want it to be. I agree that the O-line seems to be progressing and I, for one, am very happy about that. I still think BH should be fired though. 

dnak438

November 10th, 2014 at 1:50 PM ^

How much progress would be necessary on the offensive side of the ball for Michigan to have a chance to beat a good team? I mean, progress is great and all, but if we measure progress by a performance that netted 10 points against a crap Northwestern team when Michigan had great field position all day (the average drive for Michigan started on the Michigan 42), then it's too late, right?

michgoblue

November 10th, 2014 at 1:47 PM ^

Further to Magnus' point, I think that many of us have just reached a point where it is painstakingly obvious that Hoke is not the answer and that we just want to guarantee that a change happens at the end of the year.  We all miss being relevant and being involved in games like this weekend's MSU-OSU matchup. 

During the RR tenure, despite being in favor of a change, I railed against those who said that they were rooting against Michigan, just to make certain that a change would happen.  Around the time of the Minnesota game, however, I found myself unintentionally getting disappointed when our opponents screwed up.  I tried to root for Michigan this weekend, but every time we scored or stopped NW, I found myself disappointed that we might actually win and further help save Hoke. 

So, I understand Magnus' point. 

/I hate being this conflicted.

CompleteLunacy

November 10th, 2014 at 2:11 PM ^

I mean, the run offense is certainly coming together (definitely a pleasant surprise), and the OL as a unit is certainly coming together (pass pro has been fantastic lately), but I don't think it's enough to say the offense as a whole is coming together given that it's still struggling to score points and move the ball now as much as it did at the beginning of the season.                

Magnus

November 10th, 2014 at 4:27 PM ^

I guess I should have been more specific and pointed to the offensive line, not the offense in general. Last year we had pretty good skill players and no offensive line. Now we have a mediocre offensive line, but our skill players are depleted, injured, or ineffective. We just can't seem to put it all together.

Red is Blue

November 10th, 2014 at 3:54 PM ^

"the offense is coming together" -- Well if Saturday is an example of coming together, I'd hate to see what "falling apart" looks like.

 

I suppose you could have meant an aspect of offense is coming together, but that seems markedly different than the entire offense doing so.

pescadero

November 11th, 2014 at 12:05 PM ^

the offense is the problem

Well, the biggest problem. The defense is at least mediocre.

 

see progress on offense...the offense is improving

Yes and Yes

 

the offense is coming together

Nope. Still MILES from competent. An order of magnitude improvement will get them to the bottom of the gutter,

charblue.

November 10th, 2014 at 1:17 PM ^

to fail or lose on any Saturday. In fact, that is the reason for the massive frustration, the inability of this coach to translate his vision for this team in cohesive units that know exactly what they want to do, and then go out and do it confidently. 

I am not sure why this team seems incompetent at times in all areas of the game. They have strong character guys, they seem to like each other and play for each other. But they appear rudderless without fire and passion. On offense, they seem to run plays without linking them to a plan of attack that aims to take advantage of defensive weaknesses. 

They have opted for power in a game that requires speed, agility and quicker game management than they seem capable of offering or producing. And players seem to disappear from the lineup week to week, apparently because of matchups or practice competitiveness or whatever. But there is no consistency to what they do or what want to try and accomplish. 

You used to know what you'd get from a Lloyd Carr offense or a RR offense. I have no fucking clue what they can or think they can do offensively now. And because their identity is undefined, they simply score if and when they sporadically link a few successful plays together. You can't stretch the field when you don't try to stretch it, or get big explosive plays when you don't create the opportunity to make them happen. 

UMgradMSUdad

November 11th, 2014 at 1:01 PM ^

There have been several posters who've said they want Michigan to lose their last two games .  It is a minority who express this view, but they do exist.  

I do think all fans want Michigan to win in the long run, but some are so certain Hoke can't lead in that direction in the long run and so fearful that if the team becomes bowl eligible he could be retained that their desire is to see Michigan lose to MD and OSU.

gwkrlghl

November 10th, 2014 at 12:26 PM ^

Seems like the OL is getting close to competent. The skill position guys are decent enough. And yet we put 10 on Northwestern. Is DG the reason we are turrible? Is it Nuss?

Wolverine In Exile

November 10th, 2014 at 12:39 PM ^

Why it's that way is irrelevent in analyzing the game. DG is not a consistent enough QB to bank on taking even busted plays the defense gives you (see the INT where Canteen and DEVER(!) are glaringly open). If you want to say DG's a warriror, fine, but even tough guys have to be judged on their merits. DG is missing throws, missing reads, and making poor check decisions at the line. I even wonder if the whole not getting to the line for the snap in a reasonable time issue is because of DG's huddle management.  DG at this point just reminds me of that QB from Miami (YTM) a couple years ago (Jacory Harris I think?) who one game can look like a Heisman candidate, and the next two make head spinning DERP-itude decisions.

Blame Hoke and staff for not finding a quality QB to have ready to put in there, or not developing DG's decision making, but what I saw this weekend was missed opportunity after missed opportunitiy where the play call was there but bad throws / bad decisions killed us. Problem is I don't think putting Morris in there is going to be any better. If I'm Alex Malzone, I'm coming in here next year thinking I have a real shot to be the starting QB.

mGrowOld

November 10th, 2014 at 12:30 PM ^

I prepared but didnt post a thread yesterday postulating that Saturday was the ugliest win in the past 45 years.  The only games I could find perhaps uglier were the following:

1972 Michigan 7 - Northwestern 0

1977 Michigan 14 - Navy 0 (and we were #1 at the time)

1980 Michigan 17- Northwestern 10

1995 Michigan 5 - Purdue 0 (Ice bowl so not sure it counts)

Saturday may be recorded as a win but I can tell you it sure as Hell FEELS like a loss we played so poorly against a horrible team.  The exact opposite, IMO, of last year's OSU game that is recorded as a loss but kinda felt like a win cause we played so well against a very good team.

 

mGrowOld

November 10th, 2014 at 1:10 PM ^

Actually I did (thankfully) forget Akron but no, I wasnt just looking at low scoring games.  #6 on my list was the 2009 U Mass game where it became painfully obvious that Gerg's defenses couldnt stop any team with a pulse.

RJMAC

November 10th, 2014 at 1:58 PM ^

The 5-0 Purdue game comes close to the Moon game. One difference was the weather, but it contained its version of mishaps and comedy of errors. Does anyone remember that game? The play was brutal. Michigan's total offense was like 283 yards in 79 plays. Alstott was held to under 20 yards in 11 carries. http://articles.latimes.com/1995-11-12/sports/sp-2281_1_michigan-big-ten

westwardwolverine

November 10th, 2014 at 12:29 PM ^

I just wonder what is gained by playing Devin Gardner at this point. Wouldn't playing against NW and Indiana be the perfect situations for Shane Morris to get some reps? What is there to lose? A bid to some bowl that no one cares about*? He's just in there to be in there. At least Morris has some hope for the future. Games against those two might have given him some confidence going forward. 

 

*And before someone comes in and says that its for the players, remember there were players saying they didn't give a damn about last year's bowl game. And they played like it. 

umchicago

November 10th, 2014 at 12:38 PM ^

i know we don't talk about injuries but i would bet we find out that there is something wrong with DG's shoulder.  he has an INT each of the past two weeks on severly underthrown deep balls.  that signals injury to me.

so perhaps with another bye week, he can heal up a bit; shoulder and ankle.  a two-dimensional DG can be dangerous.  we know the game is in there somewhere, so i give him the chance to find it before his career is over.

also, morris hasn't shown me anything to prove he could be a better option.  so as a wise man once said, you play to win the game.

Wolverine In Exile

November 10th, 2014 at 12:42 PM ^

DG just doesn't have good footwork and his throwing mechanics are all over the place (looks to me like he's still shot putting most passes like he's in high school as opposed to throwing from a consistent release point). His deep passes are just lofted balls instead of missiles.. he should have the arm strength to throw those balls, but he keep "pushing" the throw instead of "throwing" the pass.