I Thought Real Friends Would Have Stayed Comment Count

Brian

This is clearly not part of the 2011 football preview, except it is. It was not possible to write this year's "The Story" without closing the door on the Rodriguez era. Thus this.

rodriguez-robinson

I meant to, but never got around to, writing one of the Rich Rodriguez obituaries that sprouted across the Michigan blogosphere in the aftermath of his firing. At the time I was busy panicking about Les Miles, the lack of Jim Harbaugh, and the possibility someone with as thin a resume as Brady Hoke would get hired.

By the time I'd stopped railing about The Process and the hire it begat, Rodriguez's corpse was cool. People were already complaining about how I wouldn't let the last three years go. So I dropped it. They say things happen for a reason, though, and usually say so at press conferences.

A couple months later I was at show at the Magic Stick. We had no knowledge of any of the bands that were playing; we'd been encouraged to see the headliner by a friend of the MGoWife. Whatever talent the headliner had was overwhelmed by the impression she was the worst person ever*, but the second opener was this quirky trio from Ypsi called Lightning Love. Lightning Love is a twee indie band whose drummer (now) looks like he was acquired from the Megadeth surplus store. Most of their songs are about being a miserable discontented loser surrounded by people just like you**. MGoWife adored them, bought the album and all that, and eventually I came to think of one of their songs as The Ballad of Rich Rodriguez.

This is it. Yes, you're going to have to do this obit multimedia style:


Lightning Love - Friends

Thirty Josh Grobans agree this is more in the spirit of the Rodriguez era than Josh Groban songs. And that's hugely depressing, isn't it?

It's his kid that kills me. Scattered amongst shots of Rodriguez emoting like a mofo are pictures of his son Rhett doing the same. At this point he must wonder why the universe hates his dad. Three years ago Rodriguez was promising his son as a member of the class of 2017. A few months ago this was happening after the Illinois game…

…a few months later it was this…

sadcar2

…and some heretofore innocuous sports photographer got a terrifying glimpse into life as a paparazzi.

The universe's capper:

rich-rodriguez-brady-hoke

The universe has watched your gladiatorial antics, Rich Rodriguez, and it is not impressed. Thumbs down.

In retrospect the downed thumbs were inevitable. I mean… the Groban thing. Come on. It was always something. It was Groban or another fake controversy about how people need to "get a life" or his inability to "get it" about rivals. Rodriguez wasn't subsumed by the overwhelming Michigan-ness of Michigan. He either failed to understand the need to throw himself at the shoes of the Great Tradition or just couldn't be anyone other than the guy who grew up in the "holler" and married someone my mother would certainly refer to as "that woman." You know how mothers do.

So the legacy program and local media rejected the organ transplant. The program started throwing t-cells at Rodriguez on day one. Rodriguez chipped in with stormy sideline antics and pouting. When he swore it was weakness; when he choked up it was weakness.

All of that was unambiguously negative for a football coach, but an offshoot of that was having your kid with you in a genuinely touching way. For a human this is the definition of low expectations. You publicly express your affection for your son. You are not a grim military object; you are capable of squeezing emotions other than rage out of your gray heart. Congratulations for not being a one-dimensional character straight out of American Beauty.

But I can't recall ever seeing the kind of father and son shots Rhett and Rich Rodriguez feature in before. Coaches aren't humans. They are walking soundbites wrapped in great swirling cloaks of mythology. Rap on one of their chests. You will get a hollow clang and a statement about senior leadership. Kick sand in one of their faces. You will get a lecture from Peter the Great. Peter the Great will be confused and incensed that he cannot sentence you to hang. Tell one his aunt has been dismembered by bikers on PCP and you will get a statement about senior leadership. Seniors don't do PCP and rip aunts limb from limb, because they have leadership.

Rodriguez was human. He was just this guy. He wasn't supernatural or metallic. If you rapped his chest he would probably get a little weepy. He did not seem like a great leader of men, or a colossus astride anything, or even a dude fully in control of his shit. He, like most of us, was doing okay but sometimes—too often—he was not. When Michigan instituted "The Team The Team The Team" as its official pregame hype theme it drove the point home: there is God, and there is man, and Rich Rodriguez is not God.

There was no clearer evidence of that than his answer to a question posed days before the Wisconsin game. Michigan was 7-3 but a teetering 7-3. The question was something about "how he projected the third season at Michigan." A coach would have blustered something about senior leadership. Rodriguez told it like it was, and though it was already kinda over this seems like the moment when Rodriguez accepted his fate:

"I thought we'd be further ahead.

rich-rodriguez-stadium

stonum-doom

tate-forcier-rich-rodriguez-2009-9-12-20-11-5

gerg[5]

Fire-Rich-Rod

"I thought a lot of things when I got here."

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

*[The chorus of every song was functionally "I'm sorry I don't care about you or any of the things you care about, except I'm not sorry."]

**[Or they've been arranged for marimba by a Michigan State fan… which… wow, internet. Vast and deep are your reaches.]

Comments

stubob

August 25th, 2011 at 12:50 PM ^

I mean, if there was ever a reason to use the "i know it's over and oh it never really began but in my heart it was so real" tag, this is it.

And personally I wish nothing but the best for RichRod at where ever he winds up next.

GunnersApe

August 25th, 2011 at 12:50 PM ^

I was upset when he mentioned in one of the articles when he said that if he knew what he knew now he would of stayed in WVU. Hard lesson learned on the job in AA (to our misery) and should make him a better coach in the future. I guess we can sum it up to his own words at his P.C. quoting the Lion King "It's in the past". Good luck at Clemson/Georgia.

.

Stop pointing, that's our thing.

 

bronxblue

August 25th, 2011 at 6:44 PM ^

But part of the annoyance at Georgia with Richt (at least from what I gathered) was that the team wasted immense talent.  My sense is that RR (at least offensively) will maximize the players given to him, so he might be a suitable fit if he can turn them into an offensive juggernaut.  But yeah, RR is going to need to go to a "smaller" school, win a bunch of games, and then get another shot at a major BCS program.  That said, I certainly don't want to see him on the other side of the field at the helm of a Clemson or a Texas A&M with a decent DC.  

jackw8542

August 25th, 2011 at 2:34 PM ^

how much damage is typically done by egomaniacs who think they are far more than "just a guy", I thought it was great to have someone at Michigan who was "just a guy" and proud of it.  In terms of personalities, it seems to me as if we went from one "just a guy" to a second "just a guy" with Hoke.  That's one of the things I like best about Hoke; he does think that he puts his pants on one leg at a time.  To me, that's an admirable quality.

As to RR, I thought he had many admirable qualities, never got a fair chance (because of lack of support from a variety of quarters and outright attacks from places like the FREEP) and nonetheless had to go after the three straight embarrassing losses that ended our season.  After getting humiliated in our last two regular season games, I still had high hopes that the five weeks to prepare for the bowl game would enable RR to get a very young team ready to play like a more experienced team.  After all, even though our defensive backfield was populated largely by true freshmen, by the bowl game I thought they would be the functional equivalent of sophomores.  When the outcome of the bowl game was even worse than the last two regular season games, it seemed pretty clear that he had to go.

Because RR seemed like such a truly good guy, I was nonetheless saddened to see him go, felt bad about the way he was treated while at our school and wish him nothing but the best.

wolverine1987

August 25th, 2011 at 3:22 PM ^

Though I think Hoke, because he is credited with "getting it" and being a Michigan Man, has already elevated himself in the majority of fans impressions as more than "just a guy" because the Michigan Man persona is imbued with somewhat mystical qualities in the minds of some.

Ziff72

August 25th, 2011 at 12:51 PM ^

I like that song.

Listening to Brian on the radio today talking about RR's recruiting issues reminds me of my biggest regret.   We never really got to see what this guy could do.   I may be wrong you may be right, but the unfinished business will leave me wondering what if my whole life. 

He got 3 years but did he really?   His recruiting was hamstrung by the cloud swirling overhead, his offense was hamstrung by youth, his defense was hamstrung by unreal 5 star disasters, injuries, ill fated decisions etc.

I understand fans anger, I understand why they showed him the door, but I can't get this nagging feeling of what could have been.

Utopia- Imagine Oregon's offense at Michigan.   So RR is recriuting athletes to come to the most historic school, with great academics, the best offense, the best uniforms etc, etc.    Casteel leads the charge for a fast swarming defense.   We are the "IT" school in the country.  We take the pick of the litter.   The #1 dual threat QB is our guy every 2 years.   We are feared.  Teams hope not to be embarrassed as we regularly hang 50+ on em in the Big House.  Our defense playing with a lead just continues to assault teams with blitzes and pressure.   That dream was possible for us, but things could never get on track. 

Hoke's doing a great job and maybe he can do the same, but it doesn't feel like we are reaching for the stars like we did before.  I wanted to be the Duke of basketball and it felt like it was slowly turning, but there was too much uncertainty to let him keep trying.

 

 

Moleskyn

August 25th, 2011 at 1:12 PM ^

I will always wonder what could have been.

But the reality of reality right now is that Hoke is our leader and he's doing a great job. It's our job to get behind him and support him, just as we should have been doing with RR.

Ziff72

August 25th, 2011 at 1:38 PM ^

Not to be a downer but we've won 1 NC in the 41 years I've been alive.   Duke has won 4 or 5.    We've been very good and consistent, but we're not the top program in college football anymore and haven't been.   BO had a 3-5 year run where he probably had the top program but couldn't quite catch a break.   Other than that we've been a disappointment compared to expectations.

I thought with RR we had a chance to return to the days of Bo where we stomped teams 63-7 on a regular basis and did it cleanly.  Much like Duke appears to be doing.  They are the IT school.  They pick from the best talent and they appear to do it pretty cleanly.  

jmblue

August 25th, 2011 at 1:51 PM ^

Football and basketball use very different methods for determining a national champion.  That's worth pointing out.

As for the notion of us stomping teams 63-7 . . . while I could maybe see the "63" part of that score, I'm not sure how we were going to be holding teams to seven anytime soon.  

M-Wolverine

August 25th, 2011 at 2:22 PM ^

You have to win 6 games straight, whereas with football you've had to win 12-13, minimum. It's not the same animal at all.

And if you really thought Rich or anyone else was going to win 4 or 5 national championships without cheating, where no one else has (not Nebraska, Florida, USC, Alabama), you were kidding yourself.  Bo stomped people 63-7 because 9 of the 11 teams he played sucked back in the 70's.  The little 8 could have had a hard time winning the MAC. Wisconsin was worse than Indiana, Iowa was pre-Fry suck, Northwestern was...Northwestern, and we weren't playing Notre Dame yet.

We've won more games than anyone, and done it the right way.  If that's not Duke, then you've been playing NCAA '11 too much imaging what Rich could really make this program, if we had a defense. (We'll see how long Oregon's run lasts, with their 0 national titles with this offense...and upcoming probation).

M-Wolverine

August 26th, 2011 at 12:31 PM ^

Or even 3 in a short timeframe like USC or Nebraska, then my answer is no, I don't think we can.  Not in the college landscape as it is today. Heck, show me the team since Michigan that's done it cleanly once, no more over and over. (There's a reason the SEC has won so many in a row).

And I'm fine with that. I'm happy contending for a Title twice a decade, and trying to grab one doing it the right way than selling our souls to get the crystal trophy.  That's why people get upset over even minor infractions. Because we could always say yeah, we don't have a period of utter dominance, but we do it the right way. Do you?

dahblue

August 25th, 2011 at 1:32 PM ^

You wonder what could have been?

Putting aside your reality-ignoring pipe dream, let's look at what more likely would have been if RR had another year:

-We would not have commitments from a large chunk of our current stud commits
-We would not be in a position to invade Ohio
-MSU would be given a shot to actually build a legit football program (Izzo/Ellerbe style)
-The fanbase would be fractured nearly beyond repair
-Etc.

Maybe it's time to drop the "if he was only given a chance" nonsense and accept the reality that RR made choices as the coach; those choices didn't work out; and he is responsible for his record (wins/losses/violations/records) at Michigan.  Giving him another year would have been an epic disaster for the program.  It would have been the opposite of "reaching for the stars".

Ziff72

August 25th, 2011 at 1:49 PM ^

Come on if RR was given an extension the following "most likely" would have happened

We sign 5 stars D. Hart, K. Frost as well as many other 4 star players like Crawford etc. last year.  We keep J. Fischer for the line.  We would have had a very good class.

This current class would be going great as well.   RJS, Richardson, Ross were all heavy leans because of RR's staff.   We would have different guys but we would have a very good class going.

Our offense would be near the top in the country and RR would have his pick of offensive talent this year.

RR recruited Ohio heavily.  We have more Ohio kids on the roster than we have had in other years.   We would have been in perfect position.  Wormley was a Mich lean before RR was canned as well as other Ohio kids.  Hoke is benefitting from Tressel.  RR would have as well.

MSU-WTF are you talking about?

The fanbase would definitely still be fractured.   He would need a great class in recruiting as well as a great record this year to keep guys that hate the spread and RR in the back corner so they could not be heard, but they would still be there ready to strike.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dahblue

August 25th, 2011 at 2:23 PM ^

Wow...You don't like reality, do you?

I'll just touch on one of your funny notions - You said that RJS was a heavy lean because of RR.  So, in reality, RJS called him "DickRod" and said that Hoke was coming to "clean up the mess" and that he wouldn't have come to Michigan if RR were still the coach.  

Sorry to let reality get in the way of your fantasy.

 

Section 1

August 25th, 2011 at 1:49 PM ^

You don't know any of that.

There's another scenario, at least as likely.  That if Rodriguez had been retained, and his contract extended, we'd have a class that included Dee Hart at RB.  And that with the OSU implosion, we'd be looking at a class just as rich in talent as Hoke's '11 and '12 classes.  And that our current DC might well be Jeff Casteel, who has made a habit of running nationally top-tier defenses.  We'd be refining the nation's most exciting offense and getting ready for an incredible year of football.  Instead of a season of carefully-reduced expectations. 

Harballer

August 25th, 2011 at 2:07 PM ^

Wait why would his contract have been extended?  I could have gotten on board with keeping him another year for one last chance, but why would we extend his contract?  Extensions come from, not to be blunt, actually winning.

Section 1

August 25th, 2011 at 2:30 PM ^

...and open the checkbook, to attract a national-caliber Defensive staff.

You know, sort of what David Brandon did a few months ago, in offering a new extended contract to Brady Hoke, and opening the Department checkbook to pay Greg Mattison about 300% more than Greg Robinson.

jackw8542

August 25th, 2011 at 2:46 PM ^

even more than 300% more?  A fair question is why RR was not allowed to offer Casteel whatever it would have taken to get him to come to Ann Arbor with RR in 2008.

Regardless, we now have Hoke, and he has brought the entire Michigan family back together.  It does no good to do things that can do nothing beneficial and may rekindle the hostility that separated our fan base throughout RR's tenure.

Right now, I am content to wish RR well and give Hoke my full and complete support.

jmblue

August 25th, 2011 at 2:53 PM ^

A fair question is why RR was not allowed to offer Casteel whatever it would have taken to get him to come to Ann Arbor with RR in 2008.
Do you know this to be true? Section 1 repeats it ad nauseum, but has never offered any kind of evidence for it.

Harballer

August 25th, 2011 at 3:09 PM ^

Ok well first, Brandon didn't really extend Hoke's contract, he offered him his first here at Michigan.  So you are saying that we should have extended the contract of a coach who went 15-22, 6-18 in the Big Ten, in order to secure a good defensive coordinator for him?   And it's not like RR had a horrible coordinator his first year in Shafer. 

dahblue

August 25th, 2011 at 2:28 PM ^

Ok, no one thinks that RR was going to be retained.  No one.  (although some wild RR fans think he should have been).

Next, Hart wasn't coming here after the season we had.  Even if he were, RR did not have us in position to take advantage of the OSU implosion.  C'mon, Section1, aren't you the one demanding accuracy?  How many Ohio coaches have noted their love for Hoke?  How many times have we heard how RR didn't have the reach into Ohio that Hoke has.  Yes, RR brought a number of Ohio commits, but not the top dogs.

Then, onto the Casteel fantasy.  He didn't want to join Rich.  We had the job open TWICE and he didn't come.

No one "knows" what would have happened, but we can certainly say what wouldn't have happened.

Section 1

August 25th, 2011 at 1:50 PM ^

You don't know any of that.

There's another scenario, at least as likely.  That if Rodriguez had been retained, and his contract extended, we'd have a class that included Dee Hart at RB.  And that with the OSU implosion, we'd be looking at a class just as rich in talent as Hoke's '11 and '12 classes.  And that our current DC might well be Jeff Casteel, who has made a habit of running nationally top-tier defenses.  We'd be refining the nation's most exciting offense and getting ready for an incredible year of football.  Instead of a season of carefully-reduced expectations. 

echoWhiskey

August 25th, 2011 at 2:51 PM ^

I don't think he was arguing for more time, I think he was reminiscing on the craziness of the events that converged on his three years - most of which he had a hand in, but some that are just sheer coincedences that combined to seal his fate.  You're a fool if you think that every thing that went on during his tenure here was determined by his decisions.

I too imagine that fantasy world where shit works out and we're Michigan... but Michigan with a schematic advantage to go with our traditional talent advantage.  I think it could have and someday will happen.  Right now, I'll settle for being Michigan.

STW P. Brabbs

August 25th, 2011 at 3:41 PM ^

This was the conventional wisdom, wasn't it.  You saw what that offense looked like at WVU?  Imagine what it would be stocked with Michigan-caliber recruits! 

Then we all learned about The Leap, and the adjustments Rodriguez would make when people countered some of our plays.  After years of MDB, we were dead sure we had a certified offensive genius pulling the strings - all we needed was to get the defense sorted out. 

I don't know, though.  The proof will be on the field, but I think it will be more impressive if Borges comes in, evaluates his personnel, and crafts an offensive scheme that draws from his tried-and-true principles but takes advantage of the talent that's available. 

There were a lot of sour grapes/lunatic hillbilly wrath beams involved, but some of the more sentence-completin' types on the WVU boards put forth some pretty damning stuff about how thin Rodriguez's playbook really was.  When teams were able to anticipate those adjustments, the machine could grind to a halt.  Didn't happen often with White and Slaton, but even before White's thumb was hurt against Pitt, their offense had pretty much accomplished fuck-all. 

Anyway, looks like even Brian might be admitting that Rodriguez's system was not quite so foolproof as it first appeared.  I still think he's a good coach, but I wonder whether the inflexibility of his system (and the relative lack of sophistication of his passing game, as outlined in Smart Football, IIRC) may hold him back from ever leading a a truly elite program.

go16blue

August 25th, 2011 at 12:52 PM ^

I would agree that RR's emotion and 'realness' hurt him a lot during his time as coach. When you're asked as a coach "How do you feel about that loss? The secondary got torched out there." you don't answer "Well, they're a young group and probably aren't as good as we would like for them to be" (paraphrasing), you answer "It's a tough loss, and we need to do a better job as coaches, etc." Was RR right when he said this? Yes, but its not his place as coach to say that.

Is Hoke an unemotional man? Of course not. But he knows that buzz terms like "senior leadership" and "global education" are what people want to hear. When asked about his teams performance in fall camp, he raves about their effort, and says that while he expects more, they are improving. His comments about his team being like 110 sons shows that while he is of course emotional, he knows what to say, too. Brady Hoke gets it.

BigBlue02

August 25th, 2011 at 2:24 PM ^

You probably shouldn't paraphrase if you are going to leave out most of what he said. I hate it when people spout this Bullshit without any context. At all. RichRod took the blame quite often. Just because the media picked up on him using coach speak doesn't mean he was always blaming the kids. I remember a clip from hoke at SDSU where he said the team didn't execute. Did anyone give 2 shits about him blaming the kids? No. I also remember plenty of times RichRod said they needed to prepare the kids better. Amazing no one picked up on those and only pointed to when he states a fact that he didn't call a fake punt on their own 15 against MSU. "zoltan mesko has the option to take off on any punt" turned into "i can't believe RichRod threw zoltan under the bus like that." This only furthers the point that no matter what RichRod did or said from day 1, he wasn't going to be liked or accepted.

jmblue

August 25th, 2011 at 2:48 PM ^

I don't think RR "forgot how to coach."  I think it's likely that he never knew much about handling a defense in the first place, and that the good fortune of having Jeff Casteel as his DC (and perhaps, playing in a weaker conference) masked this problem before he got here.

HoldTheRope

August 25th, 2011 at 12:53 PM ^

Both sides played this poorly (i.e. RR and the Michigan establishment)...RR will probably be successful somewhere else, like Clemson, where there is not nearly as much to "get." In turn, Brady Hoke will be a fine coach for us, and we should stick by him even if the Hoke era starts poorly (which it could if we don't win 7+ this year, with the 2012 schedule being what it is). Let's just leave at that.

EQ RC Blue

August 25th, 2011 at 12:54 PM ^

Look, the personal stuff is there, and there is enough blame to go around, from members of the Michigan community not being all in to RR not caring enough to figure out Michigan traditions. 

In the end, RR went 3-9, which put him behind the 8-ball.  Going 5-7 made it so that he had to really show something last year.  He didn't.   Defense and ST were terrible.  He didn't do a good job here -- overall, not that he didn't have some success on the offensive side -- and he didn't sell himself as loving Michigan qua Michigan before it was too late.  

He seemed like an okay guy, but also not the kind of guy Michigan should have as a coach, between certain quotes, the wingless helmets, etc.  I'm sorry it didn't work out, but I'm glad we've moved on. 

Pea-Tear Gryphon

August 25th, 2011 at 12:54 PM ^

Good luck coach. Here's to hoping you land on your feet. I base this next quote from a line from the movie Face-Off (horrible movie, I know), "I'm happy to see you go, but I hate to watch you leave."