I really dont care.
that makes one of us
NONDESCRIPT SOLAR SYSTEM IN MILKY WAY
AN OPEN LETTER TO THE PEOPLE OF EARTH
Citizens of the planet, I come before you today to make an announcement. That announcement is: I do not give a microdamn about the things 1) Rich Rodriguez or 2) Michigan alumni such as Desmond Howard have to say about Michigan and Rich Rodriguez, respectively.
My interest levels are declining into femtodamn levels. On message boards I now flip past entire threads in which the same tired debates are brought forth with the speed and determination I ignore threads about politics on the internet. Let that sink in. Yeah. That's right. I have as much interest in this topic as I do Herman Cain.
So I don't want to dedicate yet more time to a guy who was fired a year ago except to talk about the things that made his offense very effective and his defense very ineffective. Those things affect Michigan's fortunes on the field and are interesting examples of the ever-evolving college football metagame. Also interesting, if slightly depressing, is the pickle Rodriguez's last couple recruiting classes have left Michigan in, especially on both lines.
Talking about other aspects of Rich Rodriguez's tenure makes me want to claw at my face. But I will do this for you, like I will eat a lemon if Yuri Wright picks Colorado over Michigan. So here is a handy chart for you to follow.
1. Is it about Michigan? If yes, go to 2. If no, go to 3.
2. Is it really about Michigan or is it a paranoid delusion? If paranoid delusion, go to 3. If still about Michigan, go to 4.
3. Don't care.
4. Still don't care. However, this incident is further evidence that Rodriguez is deservedly bitter about his three year tenure at Michigan and impolitic about discussing it.
Yes, it is further evidence that Rodriguez's maturity level and ability to play "the game" are low. Yes, it reminds me how nice it is to have a guy like Brady Hoke, who says all the correct things in all the generic ways possible. Yes—
What? Where am I? Why am I upside down in some sort of river valley? Why is there a bridge above/below me?
I was probably bungee jumping at the time in an effort to prevent the inevitable—this is the level of my dedication to you, reader—but this topic was still massively boring enough to result in nappy times. I apologize. I'm so, so happy to be talking about this, no, serious—
1. Is it about Rich Rodriguez? If yes, go to 2. If no, go to 3.
2. Is it really about Rich Rodriguez or is it more of a rapturous thing about Brady Hoke that sets the lack of support given during the Rodriguez tenure in stark relief? If rapturous thing, go to 3. If actually about Rodriguez, go to 4.
3. Yes, that is annoying but let's just suck it up because it's in the best interests of the program.
4. Yes, it is extremely disappointing that certain program alumni appear to be jerks. What can you do, though?
To take one example, when you're so dim and callous as to deride Rodriguez as "Cherry Coke"—probably meant "New Coke"—in front of 60-70 players who were recruited by Rodriguez, are the living embodiment of that change, and went 10-2 and reached the Sugar Bowl, well… that's hopeless. Anyone who would trash-talk Denard, even indirectly, is never going to Get It.
It's further evidence that several recent program alums' maturity levels are low. It reminds me of how nice it was to have Bo around. There's nothing to do about it but wait. Eventually the Rodriguez recruits will be out of the program and the Rodriguez years far enough in the—
Right, this again. Upside down in a river valley.
If I can remain conscious long enough to respond to these things in the future, all future events will be filed "3" or "4". This, people of Earth, is my sacrifice for your well-being. Let it not be in vain. File these things 3 or 4 and live your lives without Rodriguez-Michigan-induced narcolepsy. You, too, can live—
An upside-down Brian Cook who would greatly appreciate being reeled in now
PS. Many of you have passed out in front of your computers and are in danger of entering an infinite loop wherein you wake up, forget what you were reading, begin reading again, and fall asleep. In an effort to prevent the thousands of deaths that may result, here is an animated GIF of some levitating cats.
Hopefully this will catch the newly-awakened reader's eye sufficiently to prevent them from entering a fatal boredom loop.
I really dont care.
I asked the same thing, Chitown.
So I don't want to dedicate yet more time to a guy who was fired a year ago except to talk about the things that made his offense very effective and his defense very ineffective.
Given that new information obtained from the Q&A with Bacon would be very relevant to "things that made [Rodriguez's] offense very effective and [Rodriguez's] defense very ineffective," I think that answers your question. Or proves this was a poor attempt at snark, whichever is more relevant.
That horse has been beat to death. I agree that RR was shafted. I agree that Hoke is a great coach and the right fit for Michigan. I agree that my eyes glaze over with debating the relationship between the two.
I'd love to see additional topics added to this list. Possible topics to consider:
Ok, I realize all these will be discussed. But at least, let the subject line be correct. I rarely go to "who was your favorite player?" or "what was your favorite team?" or "what would have happened if?" threads. When they are labeled correctly, I can just move on.
Man, being a moderator has got to be a pain in the rear sometimes. Thanks for putting an end to the RR nonsense.
p.s. I think you are too hard on DB, and aren't giving him enough credit where due. Obviously, he is relevant, so can't be on the banned discussion list, but even if he has idiot ideas, don't all of us on occasion? I certainly have posted and thought stupid things.
I think there is a slight air of hypocrisy there. To me, a 230+ comment front-page thread about a uniform with TWO FRICKING BLUE STRIPES is not much better than discussing what RR is doing at Arizona or howsome alums may have said not nice, stupid things about his time here.
See, I get it. We're afraid of how fast things are changing under DB. I understand it. It concerns me to. But it's gotten to the point where that argument gets rehashed (like all the RR stuff) when even the slightest change comes, even a change that actually is pretty cool. That's starting to get me bored into a sleep like Brian is with the RR stuff.
Just imagine the blue stripes are an "11" rotated 90 degrees, and everyone wears the same number. Wow, that is so earthshatteringly different than the other dozens of white away uni's Michigan has had over the last 50 years.
The problem, though, is that since Brian passionately opposes stuff like the new uniforms, choosing to remain silent probably seems a lot like tacitly endorsing the shit.
I totally just decribed my own rationale for posting shit that bitches about Brandon even when the stuff has been discussed before, but I think it applies to Mr. Cook, too.
OK, but if Desmond says something about RR talking about Charlie Weis, surely *that* would be thread worthy...
Of course, now I'll actually have to read through entire threads instead of going through the first 10-20 posts, encountering the inevitable beating of the RR dead horse, and then moving on to a new thread. Made it a fast process to keep up to date on the blog.
I'm supposed to be working, but all I can do is stare at the levitating cats
There's something about this that's so black, it's like how much more black could this be? And the answer is none. None more black.
YOU! FIGHT! NOW!
Michigan LB Jerry Meter (46), DT Curt Greer (95) zero in on Arizona QB Jim Krohn....
FINAL: Michigan 21, Arizona 17
This picture makes it seem that Krohn is so terrified of an early and painful demise at the hands of the Mich D that he's pitching the ball to Greer in hope that this sacrifice will somehow appease his attackers. Ah, good times.
Well if you avoided the political Craig James for senate thread then you missed out...
There is no evidence that Craig James killed 5 hookers while at SMU. Although, rumor also has it Craig James sold five whore bone wind chimes around the time of their deaths at a garage sale.
Never heard of him.
Inquiring minds want to know why we have two beloved MGOBLOG animals....
and how are they related????
My dear friend, Where are your lit analysis skills?
Henri the Otter == RR
Wolverine == Hoke
Henri the Otter is gone, vanished, no more. We need no more Henri discussions. We have returned to tradition, to the Wolverines. Hoke gets it, and he understands our history, and our history is Wolverines. Why do people keep on bringing Henri up? Can't they let it go? We wish Henri well, we hope he has great success, except when he is directly fighting Hoke the Wolverine.
Henri was cute, was different. But he was always swimming upstream, and didn't have a CHANCE against the wolverines. Heck, Henri could PRETEND to be a Wolverine, but it was a fake, it wasn't real, it wouldn't work and didn't work. Henri's DNA is different, and no matter he tried, Henri could never become a true Wolverine.
I thought Henri was the Otter of Ennui, which represented a feeling of utter weariness and discontent resulting from satiety or lack of interest (a very high level of boredom).
He predated RR, and his existance was discovered around 7:30 pm on Nov 18th, 2006 in the streets of Columbus, Ohio just outside the Snakepit.....so Henri predates the Horror, the Aftermath, and all of RR......
They are both mustelids....
The wolverine is genus Gulo, & the otter is genus Lutrinae. They are both members of the mustelid family, a group of carnivorous mammals. They are linked by virtue of them both being scientifically kick-ass.
Face clawing thoughts are reserved for chicken legs, not talking about other aspects of Rich Rodriguez's tenure:
Somebody please please photoshop brian's face into this with a bubble thought showing Rich Rodriguez. Where is LSU Freek when you need him/her?
Upside down up a tree? Don't give a femtodamn? There's only one solution...
9. 9. 9.
Thank you Brian, for saying what I have been thinking for so long. I can't understand all of the michigan alumn who refuse to let it go, much like I can't understand the West Virginia fans who couldn't let it go while he was here. His tenure is over and has been for a year, let's all move on.
If you want us to never discuss the man again, I am fine with that. But then I don't understand why you want to keep holding Q&A sessions with Bacon about his RR-oriented book. Maybe you should let the book run its course.
Ding ding ding
you post on every single RR topic multiple times, the same things over and over again and are almost always incorrect.
The anti-RR crowd proclaims to hate him, but is the group most singularly obsessed with the guy.
If this is the last thread that ever appears where people...
1) Thank RR for all he has done
2) Wish him the best of luck wherever he goes
3) Talk about how many wins he would have
...then Christmas has come early this year (as in, the Christmas that contains no red)
Can someone explain to me a couple of these memes/ongoing discussions/imponderables since we're talking about general things here and none of these is important to post as a thread without getting negged to Bolivian?
Where did the Michigan State "We recruit nationally" meme originate? Was there something specific that Mark Dantonio said?
What's the deal with Rita Rodriguez's nachos/baked goods/whatever and why do people keep posting about them?
Why do some people spell Rodriguez's name Rodriquez?
Does anybody actually like Drew Sharp? Isn't he basically a professional troll? How does that even work?
Does anybody here read Every Day Should Be Saturday and feel like nearly all of the humor goes over your head? Does Every Day Should Be Saturday ever post without irony? I've seen some hilarious stuff on there (Denard Robinson twittergate had me in tears) but I feel like I don't get most of it.
What the hell happened to Maize 'n' Brew? They haven't posted any football content since the Ohio win even though it's the first win in like seven years.
Why did Bo do so poorly in bowl games?
1. When Michigan started getting all the recruits from the state of Michigan under Hoke, MSU partisans said it was because MSU recruited nationally.
2. RichRod frequently makes jokes about Rita's nacho dip and how good it is.
3. Some people cannot spell. Whether this is due to cultural illiteracy or general stupidity is anyone's guess.
4. No one likes Drew Sharp.
5. Most of what is on EDSBS makes little sense to me. I think it is because I am teh old.
6. They died celebrating.
7. Because Michigan was not forced to go outside their comfort zone to win until the Rose Bowl. Then it was too late.
I blame ohio
makes me go to sleep, can we get a break on that?
and "determination I ignore threads about politics on the internet" is a little disingenuous, given the diary bumped this morning pretty much vomited politics all over the front page. The only thing missing was calling Brandon and Brandstatter racists (because it certainly called them homophobes, based on nothing)
I saw it once Star Trek once. Really sad ending.
Kirk: "Bones!...these cats...they.... don't-have-legs!"
McCoy: "Dammit Jim! I'm a doctor not a podiatrist!...oh, and they're all dead Jim."
Spock: "Levitating cats. Fascinating".
that's no fun
Anyone ever notice the dudes standing behind Henri??
(Looks like former Michigan football coaches who are boring him)
Well, after reading Desmond's comments, I have now officially lost my Michigan childhood. First Harbaugh opens his ignorant mouth and now Desmond has come down with a case of diarhhea of the mouth. What next? Our pets heads start falling off??
I'll never understand why people can't just keep their mouths shut. I'll never watch/listen to Desmond the same. Bummer.
I think a big part of the whole thing is that, as fans, we bestow onto our gridiron heroes a certain amount of class/intellect/style, and then they go and show that they aren't much different than you, me, Section 1, mgrowold, dah or Brian. They get emotional, they politick, they whine, they grouse, they name-call, they insult elements of the program, the administration. And where the JUB selection of a Fielding Yost quote as to what a Michigan Man is...well, that should be required memorization material. Right after "132 Seasons, 42 Big Ten Championships, Beat Ohio!" should be the Fielding quote.
RVB showed his Michigan Man-ness by sticking around, leading by example to the younger teammates and even calling out the churlish, childish elements of Michigan football alums who preceded Team 132.
(FTR, I as well had my "lost Michigan childhood" moment with Harbaugh's comments, and Brian's subsequent fisking of his petulant crying about his major, Stanford's course requirements for athletics, etc...)
In Desmond's support, I think we all should consider where he's coming from. I'm sure a lot of his personal identity is tied up with being a Michigan football player. he feels betrayed by the administration that turned away from the history he helped write when they went outside the program for RR. He feels betrayed by RR who talked a lot about rebuilding. And I'm willing to bet the NCAA investigation hurt him personally, as all alums take great pride in winning the right way. I still think it was a bad move (and I completely hate RR). He shouldn't do it publicly and he shouldn't do it in front of the players. But I (think I) know how he felt for those 3 years and it hurt on a personal level not just on a fandom level.
Harbaugh is a little different. He wasn't talking about individuals, he was bashing the whole program. And it came out of nowhere.
I agree with all that you wrote as applied to every comment Desmond made EXCEPT when he referred to Brandon as "brilliant." It was at that point that I questioned Desmond's sanity and whether or not he was drunk. Brandon is a good business man (?) but he is clearly not brilliant.
I was only referencing Desmond's "Cherry Coke" comments.
I think Brandon has made some mistakes (the jerseys are killing me), but his primary goal was to right the ship by getting the head coach right. He has done that.
But as an alumni and speaker, he also has a responsibility. Before he said anything, he should have run it through a 2,500 year-old rubric:
1) Is it true? (in this case, it's his opinion, but I'll give him it);
2) Is it helpful? (in this case, definitely not); and
3) Is it the right time? (again, very much not).
Unless the answer to all 3 is yes, a mature person should just not say anything.
Nothing good can come of it. We all have our disappointments from those three years. Some are legit, some are manufactured, some are fleeting, and some are deeply personal. But while jumping up and down on RichRod might seem cathartic, it isn't that simple.
You can laugh about how bad the defense was, but in doing so you belittle the blood and sweat of Brandon Graham and Ryan Van Bergen and Mike Martin. You can mock the slot ninjas, but it's tough to say that when there's a tough-as-nails Billy Goat sitting right next to you. And when you suggest that the last few years weren't "Michigan Football," in a room with the Dilithium-clad embodiment of Those Who Stay, it makes me really, really sad.
I wonder if the current team felt slighted by Howard's remarks.
On one hand, I certainly think they have a right to feel slighted. But I kind of think that being the good soldiers that they are, they have bought into the new coaching staff's belief in what Michigan football is. And if they have, they must realize that the last 3 years haven't been Michigan football, at least by the new (old) standards. I've read a lot of quotes from Roh, Martin, and RVB about how Michigan defense is all about excellence, etc. If they really believe this, I don't think they should feel slighted. Rather, they probably feel proud of their accomplishments.
This is all conjecture, mind you, but I have a little knowledge on the psychology of collegiate athletes, so it seems reasonable (to me anyways). Most likely, however, are mixed emotions about Howard's comments. Pride of being accepted as Michigan Men by the Michigan Men they sought to emulate, but a lingering sense of resentment towards the same Michigan Men for abandoning them during their time of need.
They say winning heals all wounds, and I hope that is the case here. Hopefully, the new and the old teams can all come together around the 132's success.
I think the "Michigan Man" and "Michigan Football" terms are sometimes misused or misunderstood. RR wasn't perfect, but I consider him a Michigan Man. He did some stupid things, but I think he put the athletes first and did his best. He acted honorably. The Mad Magicians played Michigan football, long before Bo and 3-yards. Michigan football isn't inconsistent with a Spread offense. Respecting RR and appreciating his efforts is in no way inconsistent with respecting Hoke and being immensely grateful for what he's done. I think that's one more thing Howard missed.
I don't think Howard (or anyone else, really) has a problem with Rodriguez's tactics. Sure, there are a few people that don't like the spread at all, but to put it plainly, they are stupid. I really don't think the spread is the issue here. I think, plainly and simply, that the losing is the issue. Going 15-22 (6-18 in B1G) is what got Rodriguez fired, and what got people to turn on him. Hoke has run the spread this year, and no one has complained. He's won.
As for the terms "Michigan Man" and "Michigan Football" being misused, I disagree, insofar as when we are talking about former players. They are the people who made those terms mean what they mean, and, if nothing else, they know what the words mean when talking amongst themselves. The rest of us are just outsiders trying to decipher some kind of jargon.
I think you are right when you say that respecting Rodriguez is not incompatible with respecting Hoke. I do think Rodriguez'z efforts should be commended. But in his business, effort means far less than results. And because he fell short in that department, I think you've gone too far in saying Howard (or anyone) should be "immensely grateful". Respectful, certainly; grateful, probably; immensely grateful, almost certainly not.
I know I'm kind of an asshole for talking about Rodriguez in a thread about a moratorium on discussions about him, but it seems apropos in light of Howard's comments and my fascination with what the players of the 132 must be feeling while we argue over "Michigan Man".
I'd mock this thread but the challenge is gone.
Hopefully moderators will show no mercy towards those that want to rehash old Rodriguez-related arguments... including me.
Though it's probably a good time to update the MGoBoard FAQ with this information, along with revised information regarding the new moderation system. ( bringing back the points system would accomplish the same thing... wishful thinking I know)
I think Rodriguez has changed the tide on the rivalry. Hell people in Arizona are starting to believe him. Never since 2010 I would have thought that. Selling different Michigan road jerseys is a good start.
Just ignore and move on?
I have never thanked Rich Rod so here it is. Thank you.
Now on to better things. Recruiting and Sugar Bowl.
I feel like Frankenstein just pimp slapped his creation.
If it is any consolation, I snickered when he did.