I hate ohio state more then I hate anything else. It also happens that my roomate is a buckeye fan, his dad an alum and his grandpa played for them. Every year when the new ncaa comes out we sim through a season just so see how the game thinks it will all play out. Last year doing this michigan went 2-10, which i laughed at and thought could never happen. Im bringing this all up because when we did this today michigan went 4-8 but beat ohio state. That made me wonder, would you rather be 4-8 with a win over ohio state, or 11-2 with a loss. Also would you still want rich rod around if we had a losing season but a win in "the game"?
you can't have one without the other without this one