I Expected This, Just Not So Much Of It Comment Count

Brian

11/2/2013 – Michigan 6, Michigan State 29 – 6-2, 2-2 Big Ten

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Bryan Fuller

You put a brave face on, but some point your jersey is so dirty and your ribs so inflamed that you have to take a moment as you exit the field to breathe. You suck in, and it fucking hurts. You breathe out, and it fucking hurts. Everything fucking hurts.

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You've looked like a coal miner after an explosion for the better part of four quarters and everything you do reminds your over-exerted nerves that in fact they have a job to do even if they really wanted to stop doing it two hours ago, and they raise their hand and say OH BY THE WAY THIS FEELS LIKE DEATH, and at some point you have to obey them. Space is infinite and cold and bereft of hope, and Devin Gardner is in it, waiting to die.

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I didn't need a half-dozen people to tell me that they'd talked to people or had met the guy. I knew it. They all said Devin Gardner was a cocky son-of-a-gun and they all had different opinions about whether this boded well or terribly; none of them needed to tell me. All you need to know is Gardner's sense of humor, how he bobs his head during his starting-lineup intro at Michigan Stadium when he says "I'm a Michigan grad."

I know that bob. I was 19, in Canada, ordering "whiskey on the rocks" with that head-bob. I'd never had anything to drink, ever, and the table exploded with laughter. The waitress checked our IDs, saw that we were all 19 year old Americans, and got me some whiskey on the rocks. I am a cocky son-of-a-gun. I know that head bob.

I do not know what it's like to have dozens of 250-to-300-pound people deposit their helmeted heads into my ribs over the course of a few hours. I played Quiz Bowl in high school. It was slightly less demanding, physically. I have a comeback victory story in the Michigan tournament that I could tell you if you wanted to hear about nerd triumph. But that's not important.

What is: Gardner has had that cockiness literally beaten out of him by this football season. It started with the insane interception against Notre Dame and steadily built through interception after interception; Michigan resorted to running him a lot to actually move the offense forward, and he started having moments where you wondered if he'd get up. He laid on the turf after he took one particular shot to the chest against Minnesota, and it was a surprise when he got up and continued playing football. By Penn State his coaches were so afraid of him that they curled up into a ball in overtime.

In this game Pat Narduzzi paid his five dollars to the carnie and whipped linebackers at him until he cracked. Pat Narduzzi is now the proud owner of a St. Bernard-sized Marvin the Martian. Devin Gardner is no longer bobbing his head, because doing so sends shooting pain down his right side. And his left side. And other sides that don't actually exist but still manage to send shooting pain signals to his brain. Cockiness has left the building.

Michigan fans have endured a similar trial, albeit without the helmets impacting us like bullets on kevlar and with the aid of sweet, sweet beer. Over the course of two months Michigan has gone from a program on a rapid upward sweep towards another Ten Year War, Jabrill Peppers in hand, to a shambles much worse than its 6-2 record and seemingly adrift. There's been no whisper of a program that seems as good as Michigan State is right now for seven years, and counting.

The nadir of nadirs was Taylor Lewan turning into Will Gholston, down to the helmet twist on a prone player. That's where this program is right now: talking tough, failing utterly, and taking out their anger on whoever happens to be around.

Anyone still deploying the "little brother" rhetoric should be hit on the head with an oversized mallet and mailed to Waziristan. That was definitive. We're going to need a bigger countdown clock.

Awards

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Eric Upchurch

 

brady-hoke-epic-double-point_thumb_31Brady Hoke Epic Double Point Of The Week. Dennis Norfleet was pretty good on punt coverage. But no points are awarded.

Honorable mention: LOL.

Epic Double Point Standings.

2.0: Jeremy Gallon (ND, Indiana)
1.0: Devin Gardner (ND), Desmond Morgan(UConn), Devin Funchess(Minnesota), Frank Clark(PSU)
0.5: Cam Gordon (CMU), Brennen Beyer (CMU)

Brady Hoke Epic Double Fist-Pump Of The Week. The clock expires to end the game.

Honorable mention: Raymon Taylor's interception gives Michigan a sliver of hope; Michigan completes some passes early, moving the ball-type object some distance-type measures.

Epic Double Fist-Pumps Past.

8/31/2013: Dymonte Thomas introduces himself by blocking a punt.
9/7/2013: Jeremy Gallon spins through four Notre Dame defenders for a 61-yard touchdown.
9/14/2013: Michigan does not lose to Akron. Thanks, Thomas Gordon.
9/21/2013: Desmond Morgan's leaping one-handed spear INT saves Michigan's bacon against UConn.
10/5/2013: Fitzgerald Toussaint runs for ten yards, gets touchdown rather easily.
10/12/2013: Devin Funchess shoots up the middle of the field to catch a 40 yard touchdown, staking Michigan to a ten-point lead they wouldn't relinquish. (Right?)
10/19/2013: Thomas Gordon picks off an Indiana pass to end the Hoosiers' last drive that could have taken the lead.
11/2/2013: Clock expires.

[After THE JUMP: brimstone.]

Offense

The pile. Brady Hoke has coached 34 games at Michigan. 27 of these have been against opponents from major conferences or Notre Dame. In eight of these games, Michigan has failed to acquire 300 yards of offense. The list:

  1. 2011 Michigan State: L 28-14
  2. 2012 Sugar Bowl: W 23-20 (OT)
  3. 2012 Alabama: L 41-14
  4. 2012 Notre Dame: L 13-6
  5. 2012 Nebraska: L 23-9
  6. 2012 Ohio State: L 26-21
  7. 2013 UConn: W 28-24
  8. 2013 MSU: L 29-6

I would like to add the 2011 Iowa game, in which Michigan had 166 yards of offense before they ended up down two scores in the fourth and went hurry up shotgun passing, to the pile. That makes it an even third of games against real opponents (or UConn) in which Michigan has been utterly incompetent in. The disturbing thing is that they are not getting less frequent as the years progress. There were 3 in 2011, four in 2012, and three and counting in 2013, one of which was against UConn.

Everyone has a plan until they get disemboweled and look down at their entrails burning. As for what the gameplan: yeah, that is what they had to attempt. Toussaint got eight carries, and that was about the right number of carries. Michigan tried to go deep to Chesson, Funchess, and Gallon because that was what they had to do to move the ball.

Good prepared teams beat Borges. That one drive where Michigan State snuffed out a throwback screen, was all over all-hitches, and ate an inverted veer alive was ballgame before it was officially ballgame. Michigan had a bye week and Narduzzi/Dantonio still ate Borges's lunch. The throwback screen was especially illuminating, as Toussaint's fake block attempt was read all the way by three(!!!) Michigan State defenders, forcing Gardner to start running around as he does.

The sack of Gardner after the Taylor interception was a perfect example. It's second and fifteen, and this is what Michigan does:

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note Bullough screaming up the pocket in the dead center without a blocker

Play action on which Gardner turns his back to everybody and Bullough rips up the pocket unblocked, leaving Toussaint one on one with the guy in no position to deal with him. Glasgow and Bosch both get owned on other blocks so when Gardner evades the first two attempts to tackle him he still gets sacked. Yes, OL disaster is disastrous; this was reminiscent of watching T'eo in last year's ND game on a similar budding disaster on play action. MSU had this dead to rights presnap, probably because Funchess on the LOS is a big flag waving "pass" and, oh, right, it's second and fifteen.

This continues a pattern: Michigan puts something nonsensical on tape one week against a weak defense, finds success with it, and then runs the same thing at a more competent outfit, which destroys it. Minnesota tackle over turned into PSU tackle over. Indiana twins play action that is never going to be a run turns into the above frame. MSU had a few issues, and then adjusted, and it was over.

It looked like Michigan State was the team that had a bye.

Offensive line debacles. Well, it's a tire fire. I provide this valuable analysis to you, person who cannot see with his own eyes that it is a tire fire. Everyone wants to fire Funk, and I guess okay you can want that and it's not insane. It's not happening, though. I bet you a dollar. You are left to hope that next year there will be more guys ready and some of them get a lot better at football.

Keep in mind that Funk is not only working with mostly freshmen and has two walk-ons competing seriously, or at least did until Burzynski tore his ACL, but has had to deal with GERG-RR level whiplash. Michigan wanted to run the stretch this year after not running the stretch at all the last two years, and then they wasted three weeks of practice screwing around with tackle over, and they're still doing that. Michigan's blitz pickups were completely broken in this game. While that may be because most of the guys making the pickups are young, flipping guys from one position to the other and constantly moving them not only week to week but during the damn game seems like a recipe for disaster no matter who the OL coach is. Erik Magnuson is a redshirt freshman already moved midseason to guard, and now sometimes he's a tackle with another tackle next to him, and well no shit sometimes those guys forget where they are.

We always hear about how unit chemistry is such a big deal with OL. Would Michigan's actions be any different if they were deliberately trying to destroy it?

I will admit that part of this comes from seeing Funk at a coaches clinic and being impressed by his level of detail, ability to answer questions cogently, and distinct lack of exasperated swearing. That latter separates him from every other offensive line coach in history. I feel that he is not bad at his job for squishy reasons.

Toussaint can't block. I mean no offense to Vincent Smith when I  say this, but I didn't expect that I'd be missing him deeply halfway through this year. I am, because Smith was a great pass blocker and Toussaint is at least below average and probably terrible. Derrick Green still doesn't know what he's doing in that department either and apparently no one else on the team is worth trying as a third down back, so we're stuck with Toussaint. MSU attacked that over and over, finding success.

NOBODY CAN BLOCK. NOBODY

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Eric Upchurch

Funchess still developing, still intimidating. He did not come down with a couple of balls that were something less than flat drops but were catches you want him to make; he came down with a couple others and wasn't targeted enough because Gardner was busy dodging missiles in the pocket. When he was targeted, he looked pretty good, especially on the post above that Gardner just missed. He sold a fade route to Waynes, chucked him outside once he'd started to turn upfield, and got a good couple yards of separation on what would have been a pretty badass play if Gardner just could have gotten it there.

I would like it if Michigan stopped pretending he was a tight end at all, though.

I have no comment on bubble screen. At this point talking about it is counterproductive. It is there sometimes and not there other times. It is a way to get yards that is pretty easy. I like easy yards. Any yards, really.

Defense

Par for the course. You thought "ballgame" when Michigan acquired –21 yards in the aftermath of the Raymon Taylor interception, and the defense apparently had similar thoughts.

10 DRIVES BEFORE –21 YARDS AFTER INT: 237 yards, INT, TD, 3 FG drives, one 26 yards, one fluky fullback throwback thing.
2 DRIVES AFTER INT: 56 yard TD drive, 97 yard TD drive.

That was a textbook "defense crumbles late in the face of utter offensive ineptitude" game. Five of those ten drives faced started at about midfield, and Michigan gave up three points on them. The opening field goal drive was one fluke cross-field throw to a fullback and then a three-and-out. MSU is a bad offense that is no longer a horrible offense; Michigan has a B defense. That's about what you would expect.

The late collapse sucks, sure, but I was expecting it. When you get in one of these games where the offense is totally incompetent but the defense is holding you in it, the moment where the offense blows the last best chance to get back in it is often followed by the defense giving up the ghost.

Fullback throwback. I don't even know man. I've never seen anything like that, OSU twitter blew up with jokes about how a Bollman offense is always at its best when it's pulling butt out of its butt, and the announcers were equally flabbergasted. It's just one of those things that can happen to anyone when the opposing quarterback is flushed to the left and decides to throw it—without even looking first—back to a fullback who cut a defensive end and then leaked out into the flat. Brilliant because it worked; a total fluke.

Crossing routes. Man does MSU love them some crossing routes short of the sticks on third down. This would cause me to set my hair on fire, except MSU fans probably enjoy punting at this point. That puts the defense on the field again. I remember that 1997 feeling.

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This was the result of rushing three: MSU dropping passes. [Fuller]

Rushing three on third and long. Like everyone else, this was my main complaint. I don't actually mind it so much when Michigan shows pressure and then backs out, but when they go nickel and don't even threaten with the linebackers and then rush three guys who all get doubled, argh argh argh. MSU whiffed on a couple of big plays; that has nothing to do with how Michigan executed.

At least Mattison adjusted, sending a variety of zone blitzes at Cook later, which he didn't do too well with. The general lack of mean okie blitzes and passivity of this year's defense is pretty odd given that they do pretty well when they load up on opponents. Is it just not having Kovacs around anymore? Are we imagining it? I don't know.

Jourdan Lewis curse watch. Connor Cook can't hit the broadside of a barn until a third and fifteen conversion that happens to be an NFL throw against a guy Jourdan Lewis is in the back pocket of. Apologize to the gypsy, Jourdan. I know it's not rational; just do it.

Lewis did have the recovery speed to get in on that fade to Fowler that ended up incomplete after getting burned, at least.

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I think he will be good once he APOLOGIZES TO THE GYPSY PLEASE.

(Stribling didn't appear to get any snaps, it was all Lewis.)

Raymon Taylor are you actually good watch. Well… I don't know man. On the one hand, another interception that was pretty badass. That's huge. On the other, led the team in tackles with 12, which is always a sign they're picking on you as a cornerback. I lean towards Taylor being pretty good when not getting tempoed.

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Fuller

Henry had a good day, probably. Judgment always reserved for linemen, but Henry kept popping up in spots after beating down-blocks and seemed to make a real impact. He has been coming on this year; next year he's probably your starting three-tech and an upgrade on Black on the ground. Pass rush is still pending.

The solution to the Jake Ryan thing. Michigan said screw it and played Brennen Beyer at SDE much of the day.

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Fuller

This, too, seemed to work out okay. MSU got two long runs, one on a reverse, the other that 40 yarder that effectively ended the game. Neither of those seemed to be Beyer's issue. Before the late collapse MSU was trundling along at two yards a carry.

Miscellaneous

As a feminist. I've always wanted to start as sentence "as a feminist." As a feminist, I find "little sister" chants disappointing. Tut tut. Tut tut tut tut. Also Blurred Lines enrages me. I am done being a feminist now. I find Blurred Lines annoying for having hashtags in the video again.

FIRE EVERYTHING, says the internet. Judging from boards around the internet, the aftermath of this game has started fire coach X talk in earnest. That is not happening. There's about a 90% chance this staff stays intact going into next year, for many reasons. Some of them are good—transition costs suck, wouldn't Jake Fisher be nice to have, recruiting is going very well, especially on the OL—and some are not so good, but it's not happening so it's pointless to talk about.

Next year is an obvious improve-or-die season, and it features road games against MSU, OSU, and Notre Dame. Uh.

Here

Best And Worst has bests, apparently, but I think we'll go with a worst here.

Worst:  Downs and Distances

Here are some downs and distances from this game:

3rd and 20

4th and 21

3rd and 18

4th and 24

2nd and 30

3rd and 29

4th and 48

3rd and 24

They had three drives of more than 50 yards, two of which ended in FGs and the third in Gardner’s interception.  For every other drive combined, UM ended with –7(!!!)yards of total offense.  That’s right; with two weeks of preparation and countless promises to adapt, UM produced the worst offensive performance any of us will probably ever see out of the Wolverines.  They punted or turned the ball over on downs with 4 or fewer plays 8 times this game.  After Raymon Taylor’s interception of Cook late in the 3rd quarter, UM’s subsequent drive resulted in –21 yards of offense and, according to ESPN’s official boxscore, was the end of the game despite there being a whole quarter to go.  And honestly, I don’t think that was a misprint.

Inside The Boxscore is a doozy, obviously:

Burst of Impetus
* For Michigan, there was one glimmer of hope. With Michigan trailing by 10 late in the 3rd quarter, Raymon Taylor intercepted a pass and returned it 17 yards to State's 41. The boxscore lists this as the "H41." This could refer to the "Home" team, but I'm going to call it the "hated one's" 41. This was our best starting field position by 24 yards. It's hard to score against the nation's top ranked defense or thereabouts, when you are always facing a long field. Five of our 13 positions started inside our 20, and all but one started from no better than our 35. Why is this important? Well, if you throw a 58 yard bomb to Chesson, you'd like to think that a TD might result, but not if you're starting well inside your own half of the field. After Taylor's INT, the next three plays went for -5, -9, and -7 yards. Impetus bursted.

Elsewhere

I will throw up game reactions later in a UV. It will not surprise you to hear that I have not ventured other places on the internet much yet.

Comments

Drbogue

November 4th, 2013 at 2:04 PM ^

So where are the O line jokes?

----- could start at offensive guard for Michigan.

Ugh. For what it's worth, Borges did switch to quick passing routes coming out of the half. Unfortunately by then nobody could catch anything.

charblue.

November 4th, 2013 at 2:05 PM ^

is now enjoying their's in the aftermath of Saturday's beatdown. But I would say this about certain team's preparation, such as UM's principal rivals: They know what to expect and they breakdown Michigan's tendencies well in advance, so that come game week they may have to spend a few more hours watching film, but the only thing they are checking is how to get the snap count and who they are taking advantage of. 

I don't think that this takes endless review. If you already know your victim, and your're pretty confident in knowing what it takes to win and beating your opponent, you enter that game with a great mindset. Counter that with Michigan vowing not be taken lightly in the physicality department, only to give the impression to most here that the team is weak and just an arrogant sand kicker with no balls or real commitment to fight.

All this, and the captain is being chastised by an announcer about his behavior and suggesting  that he might get tossed. MSU doesn't fear Michigan and never has. 

And we know that Michigan doesn't fear MSU --but until you kick Dantonio's ass, in EL, not Ann Arbor, this doesn't mean much. This team is soft in the message and lesson delivery department until that occurs. Dantonio, for all his sour demeanor, has successfully turned himself into the second coming of Tressel. And I think he's always modeled himself after him. 

Regardless of whether Michigan is a young team, and it is, it's not seasoning into a highly competitive machine this year. It just seems like one inconsistent hodge-podge of offense and bend-but-don't-break defensive performance week to week. I think the youngsters have failed our expectations for quick growth and the lack of Green's PT or any other back besides Toussaint, seals it. 

I think the coordinators are between players now in terms of their own expectations and plans for what they want to do, and while it seems like they've adjusted on certain things, they seem locked down on others. 

Again the difference between MSU and Michigan right now is clear: MSU knows what it is, what it wants to do and how to do it. Michigan on the other hand, doesn't, period. And when you are confused, you aren't confident, you make mistakes trying to compensate, and these make you look even worse. That's what happened on Saturday, in my opinion. 

So, the two major issues confronting this team before the season are still its biggest problem: blocking on offense and pass rush on defense. And everyone knows how to attack this team. 

 

UM Indy

November 4th, 2013 at 2:18 PM ^

How about suspending the Brady Hoke Epic Double Point of the Week and the Brady Hoke Epic Double Fist-Pump of the Week for the rest of the year?  It was cute a million years ago when we beat Notre Dame and we tricked ourselves (again) into thinking we were good.  Now you can't even find a player to give them to.

 

 

Hail-Storm

November 4th, 2013 at 2:22 PM ^

Michigan has a lot of talent

WR: Two elite talent recievers (Gallon and Funchess), decent 3rd options in Dileo and Chesson

QB: Gardner is a very talented QB who is mobile, and has a nice downfield throw. Is prone to turn the ball over

RB: Mediocre talent, but does contain a 1000 yard rusher.

TE: Butt is ok at pass catching and somewhat competent at blocking

OT: All american and big ten candidates

OG: Deep list of talented young players

FB: ok blockers, haven't shown much pass catching (low opportunities)

To me, this outfit is nowhere near the offensive tire fire that existed in 2008. I see plenty of opportunities to thrive (which it has proven to do).  I don't know a lot, but I feel like they should never go with less than 3 recievers, put 5 OL on the line, with Gardner in the shotgun, and put 2-3 backs in the backfield to pick up blitzes and missed assignments. This allows for simpler blocking, opens up draws, and gives gardner more time to find the talented open recievers.

 

Bill in Birmingham

November 4th, 2013 at 8:19 PM ^

The middle of the offensive line has been an unmitigated disaster this year. I happen to think it is mostly a function of youth, but that area has destroyed any ability to run the ball and has made pass protection something of an adventure. Blocking across the board, except most of the time with the two tackles, has stunk. Backs and tight ends cannot block either.

MidwesternSpeed

November 4th, 2013 at 2:25 PM ^

This season the mgoblogosphere has been collectively experiencing a classic grieving process.  What are we grieving?  The fall of our once great power and subsequent banishment to the land of mid-level Big 10 team,  a place virtually defined by MSU for the past 4 decades (until now) and a place Michigan hasn't visited since the 1960s.  Using the Kubler-Ross model I'll break it down like this:

1.  Akron/UConn:  Denial.   Wait, no, we're not actually this bad.

2.  Penn St:   Anger.  Duh.

3.  Indiana:  Bargaining.  Well...if our offense plays this well AND our defense can play like they did against Minnesota and Central, well, maybe....PLEASE?

4.  MSU:  Depression.  This is happening.  Fucking hell.

Let's just hope we can all get to Acceptance before November 30th.

 

 

 

 

 

Swayze Howell Sheen

November 4th, 2013 at 2:29 PM ^

Acceptance might come with a 50-14 blowout loss to OSU. Don't doubt that Urban will have his guys up for that game, and that he won't let off the gas pedal if given a chance. I bet he's been watching IU tape against us already. 

The sharks are circling in the waters (as someone said above) -- I do hope our guys find a way to get something together for the final push, or it could get ugly.

 

funkywolve

November 4th, 2013 at 3:12 PM ^

At least with Tressell you knew once he got up a few scores, he was going to pull back the reins on offense so they didn't commit any stupid turnovers.  Urban's going to stick the football so far down Hoke's throat he's going to poop leather for at least a week.

uncleFred

November 4th, 2013 at 3:25 PM ^

When a program has gone through two 180 degree shifts in philosophy in four years it suffers a lot of damage. I doubt very much that Brandon wanted to fire RichRod prior to his fourth year. He certainly knew that the whipsaw of that much change in that amount of time was going require quite a while to come back from. When he made the decision to fire RichRod, Brandon made the decision to ride out what had the potential to be a very ugly transition. 

Despite all the gloom and predictions of doom for the remaining season, I'd guess that Michigan is likely to win two of its four remaining games, with a reasonable shot at winning three. That's 8 or 9 wins, right where the vast majority of commentors here claimed to expect the team to be. Some ugly wins certainly, but when it comes to coaches keeping their jobs ugly wins count about the same as pretty wins.

Hoke may or may not decide to fire one or more assistant coaches in the off season. However this season ends, from 6-7 to 11-2, Hoke's job is completely safe and the jobs of his assistants are fully in his hands. Brandon made this decision in 2011, and Hoke's performance is far far above the level that would cause Brandon to pull the plug early.

imafreak1

November 4th, 2013 at 3:41 PM ^

Cook in the past has commented on his tendency towards confirmation bias so I would like to highlight the rather absurd demonstration of it in this post.

We've created a brand new stat, over 300 yards of offense against large conference opponents, the opposing defense and extenuating circumstances are not taken into account (except to include the Iowa game even though they did exceed 300 yards), winning the game is not even a mitigating circumstance. Then we are presented with this ratio of 1/3. Completely context free--except where context can be used to push the stat where he wants.

Does anyone have any idea how 1/3 falls relative to everyone else in this time period? I don't. I can't look it up because this stat was just made up today. If the author knows that information is not shared with us.

Not to worry. Borges is terrible.

MI Expat NY

November 4th, 2013 at 4:25 PM ^

So, pick a couple teams and look.  It's happened once to Ohio St. under Urban Meyer.  7 times in 28 qualifying games for Michigan St. for the last three seasons (and we know how bad their offense has been the last two seasons) and 4 times in 28 qualifying games for Notre Dame the last three seasons (who again, hasn't been an offensive dynomo).  So demonstrably worse than our three biggest rivals, running the gamut from good offense to mediocre to bad offense.  Is that enough context for you?

He didn't make up a stat.  He said to himself, "man we have had a lot of bad offensive football games under Borges.  I wonder if there's a way to quantify that?  Maybe anything under 300 yards is a bad game?  Sure, lets see how we do.  Wow, that looks bad."  But by all means, keep claiming all is well.    

imafreak1

November 4th, 2013 at 4:53 PM ^

First, I never said all was well. It seems there are only two choices now. All is well or fire everyone.

But answer me this, would Cook have posted this data if he hadn't found something he thought looked bad for Borges?

Again, this is a context free arbitrary cut off presented in a vacuum, something Cook would normally ridicule.

This season, Michigan is averaging 411 yds/gm and ND is at 398, MSU 379, and OSU 530. In 2012, Michigan was ahead of MSU but behind ND and OSU. In 2011, Michigan was behind ND but ahead of OSU and MSU.

So now what? My stat is at least an average and not arbitrary and clearly conceived to look one way.

Michigan has played some really good defenses in Alabama, ND, and MSU but going by the averages, Michigan looks OK.

InterM

November 4th, 2013 at 5:01 PM ^

Care to direct me to a recent post of yours that acknowledges a problem with the Borges-run offense and proposes what to do about it?  To suggest that Brian had to work hard to cherry-pick bad offensive stats during the Borges era, particularly after this weekend's effort, is laughable. 

InterM

November 5th, 2013 at 1:41 PM ^

Rodriguez left three senior interior offensive linemen (Barnum, Omameh, and Mealer) for Borges to work with last year, and by the end of the year they seemed incapable of blocking anyone.  So what makes you think Borges would do any better with another round of Rodriguez recruits left over for this year -- besides, of course, the two who actually are still here (Lewan and Schofield)?  More importantly, given what Borges has done, nearly three full years in, with the post-Rodriguez offensive line recruits, what makes you think he'll do better going forward once Rodriguez's poor OL recruiting is no longer a factor?

MI Expat NY

November 4th, 2013 at 5:02 PM ^

Brian has been pretty consistent in claiming that Borges lays 2-3 absolute duds a year.  He was merely trying to quantify that point.  Sure you can pull stats to average those duds out with games where we've destroyed really bad teams, but that doesn't undermine the main point that on offense, we've been very bad on not so infrequent occasions.  He doesn't need "confirmation bias" to prove that.  That section of the post was merely providing another way to show all the bad performances we've had the last three seasons.  

 

nappa18

November 4th, 2013 at 7:29 PM ^

Without any context (turnovers, penalties, field position, big plays, poor weather), I don t see this stat on its own as that meaningful. Sorry, Brian even though I really enjoy your thoughts and observations. I didn't check to see how many of those games we won but especially in college, 300 yards total offense is not an automatic loss, or close. Using that naked stat seems a bit like a certain unnamed former freep M hata. With all due respect.

fatbastard

November 4th, 2013 at 10:20 PM ^

I thought the same thing and appreciate that you took the time to poin that out here.  Just dumb, really.  if i wanted to compile the record of M under RR for games M gained over 400 yards, I feel the result would be abominable.   

Smash Lampjaw

November 4th, 2013 at 4:14 PM ^

I have long been amused by the pride MSU takes in not being racist- or their exaggerated offense at the racism they detect in others- while they are so appallingly sexist. I know, RCMB does not represent the cream of their crop, but sheesh.

funkywolve

November 4th, 2013 at 4:23 PM ^

That was a textbook "defense crumbles late in the face of utter offensive ineptitude" game. Five of those ten drives faced started at about midfield, and Michigan gave up three points on them. The opening field goal drive was one fluke cross-field throw to a fullback and then a three-and-out. MSU is a bad offense that is no longer a horrible offense; Michigan has a B defense. That's about what you would expect.  

The D did a good job of stopping MSU when MSU had good field position.  However, when MSU didn't have good field position the defense wasn't able to hold the field position battle.

MSU had 6 drives start inside their 40 yd line and on all but one, they gained at least 40 yds and scored on most of them.

Start on MSU 25 - 52 yd drive FG

Start on MSU 13 - 8 yds, punt

Start on MSU 25 - 75 yd drive, TD

Start on MSU 37 - 46 yd drive, FG

Start on MSU 17, 42 yds and punt

Start on MSU 32, 56 yd drive,  TD

Start on MSU 3, 97 yd drive, TD

CompleteLunacy

November 4th, 2013 at 5:18 PM ^

The defense is not being talked about enough...too much focus on the offense here. The team lost as a whole on Saturday. Defense was part of it. I keep harping on this...but only because I see very few people talking about it. It was a 6-6 game with like, 3 minutes (?) left in the 1st half. I can't say Michigan wins if it's tied at the half, but I do think the complexion of the 2nd half would be different. I mean, the next time Michigan got the ball back, it was 16-6. That wasn't the defense "mailing it in" after offensive failures. It also had nothing to do with field position battle. Because to get those 10 points, MSU drove 121 yards. And you give Sparty a multiscore lead in the 2nd half, with a #1 ranked defense, already knowing how your offense has struggled to block anything? Well, game set match. 

The offense was a major failure in the game, obviously. But let's not act like the D were heroes. They wilted too, and I don't just mean MSU's last two drives.

 

Some Call Me.... Tim

November 4th, 2013 at 4:30 PM ^

I think this game was a combination of our o-line not excecuting as well as MSU's defense just being rediculous.  And like i read earlier, they are peaking.  They do not have the talent to reload year after year, and they are mostly seniors.

CR7

November 4th, 2013 at 4:55 PM ^

This team is just so soft and pathetic. It's sad really, because the players are being let down by the coaches, badly. FWIW, Jack Miller is 4-0 as a starting O-Lineman at M. Perhaps they should bring him back in and move Glasgow back to guard. It's clear, to me at least following this game (and even the PSU game) that the best 5 was the 5 that started the season. The best D-Line they've faced up to this point was ND and they stalemated that bunch. RG is potentially the area where some change could come, whether it's Kalis or Bosch or Mags.

Ron Utah

November 4th, 2013 at 5:18 PM ^

Stalemated ND?  Not even close.  ND was in our backfield all game.  It took a heroic performance from DG to win that game.  He made throws with guys in his face, ran the ball well, and even made some pre-snap adjustments.

MSU was BY FAR the best defense we've faced, and one cannot reasonably argue that because the current line didn't fare well against MSU that they're any worse than the group that started the season.

FWIW, I like the current line because it signals a recognition that we're going to have win games with our passing attack; we just can't get it done on the ground.

It may be true that the original group was better, but beating one good opponent (ND)--who was in our backfield all game--and three craptastic teams does not exactly define success.

CR7

November 4th, 2013 at 6:39 PM ^

They did stalemate that DL. A lot of the pressure came from the backers, IIRC. The only pressure I really recall from the DL was when they ran PA off the stretch look which left the backside end unblocked. Now, say what you want about 5 stalemating 3 but that's the point of a 3-4 defense, first, and second there are 2 NFL prospects on that DL.

MSU may be the best defense M have played but not the best DL, which was my point. ND's defense is average at best but their DL is really good and all things considered, the OL did failry well in that game. One thing that OL didn't do was give up a lot of sacks. It was the same last year and the year before. Not a lot of sacks but not gonna maul anyone off the line either. Now, if you believe what you say about M passing more, don't you think the line that started the year would be ideal instead of the constant rotation?

I dunno. I feel like having Glasgow in at G instead of a true frosh or an undersized RS frosh is better than, well, that.

JTrain

November 4th, 2013 at 6:20 PM ^

My question is what happens when shane Morris or speight steps in and we still can't run the ball. The way our next few years could unfold if some of our oline talent doesn't pan out could spell the end of home and co.

PAproudtoGoBlue

November 4th, 2013 at 8:58 PM ^

Two years people we need two years. I've never seen a Michigan staff recruit like this current staff. Fer godsakes lets at least let them develop these linemen and RB's let alone the two above average pocket passers we already have in the fold.  We make changes now we might be hving this conversation for the next five flipping years. Look at the long line of coaches that said no or showed no interest in the lead up to Hoke. Who are we really going to end up with?