how is our defensive scheme different from a regular 3-4 and are there any other college teams that run it? Are there NFL teams that run it? Also i cant remember the NFL team that runs a defensive scheme that is considered "mass chaos". I think it was the baltimore ravens? If i remember correctly i think they sometimes only used 2 lineman and everyone standing up. Is that scheme somewhat similar?
how is our defensive scheme different from a regular 3-4?
college: USC sometimes
"mass chaos": what you're thinking of is the "creep" and it's different, although we might use it now and then
The Steelers and Patriots use the 3-4 I think. We have Stevie Brown playing the hybrid role. So it could be a 3-4 or a 3-3-5, depending on where he is for a particular play.
i just thought about the coach that runs it. His name is rex ryan. I cant remember the team that he coordinated this past playoffs but their defensive scheme looked really crazy. I believe it was an interview with one of his players that said its like mass chaos trying to play in this scheme.
Rex Ryans been the DC at Baltimore for like the last 10 years. One of the best DCs in the modern era. He basically built and ran the Baltimore D.
Marvin Lewis was the Ravens DC when they won the Super Bowl. Technically, he should receive quite a bit of the credit for building that D originally.
The Patriots have lined up with 1 or 2 down lineman a few times in the Belichick era as well, but only once or twice a game, and usually not at all. Even then they'd be in a 4-3 type thing since two dudes would be lined up at the DE spot, just not in a stance.
I did an article for this for HTTV. The answer is: it's a 4-3 under, which is sort of midway between a 4-3 and 3-4. USC runs the same defense, as does Arizona in the NFL. Robinson and Carroll go way, way back, FWIW.
I was about to write something intelligent in this post, but this basically sums it up. Thanks Brian
1st time poster:
I found this cool article (actually written by Pete Carroll) describing the 4-3 under defense, how it works, its weaknesses, and how these can be overcome. It also shows how the 4-3 under can be used vs various formations.
"For a base defense to hold up you have to have some things that you can use to complement it. When you play USC every single one of my players is going to have a blitz pattern. The offense will have to account for every player on our side of the ball in their pass protection scheme."
see this defense in action this year....