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Hokepoints: O-Line Depth Chart, Spring Video, & More Roster Overanalysis

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Sorry to interrupt your day of madness with more football right now, but since the Spring rosters were recently published it's time for that annual MGo-Tradition of way overanalyzing weights and numbers and stuff...which Brian just informed me he's working on too [ED: this was written on Monday] after I got most of this written so figure this is Part II to that. By request the Depth Chart by Class received a major overhaul. Clicking on a name will bring up their MGoRecruiting profiles, hovering over a name gives you the current height, weight, and the player he'd most resemble if everything works out.

Before we get to the new faces, let's pick through that video. Non-bullets:

Offensive Line-Up: Miller seems to be the #1 center. The first clip shows him snapping the ball to Gardner, who hands off to Justice Hayes. Later while Lewan is talking we see two snaps (both of them pulls to Schofield's side) where the 1st team goes and the second team steps up in order behind them. Screen grab:

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Starters at the moment appear to be Schofield-Burzynski-Miller-Braden-Lewan. Second team is Gunderson-Kalis-Glasgow-Bars-Mateus. Magnuson (at RT), Ben Pliska (at C) and Bosch (at LG) are the guys walking up behind them. Chris Bryant appears to not be doing these things yet; I don't know where LTT is, nor preferred walk-on Dan Gibbs. I'm not so worried about Kalis since the coaches still love him and it's early enough in spring that you'd expect a freshman to be behind last year's first backup. That Braden's practicing with the ones ahead of the 5-star, and he's the guy pulling, seem to bode very nice things for him—like potential star things. I am worried that there may not be enough guys in the picture above to make two teams for a real spring game.

Thomas Gordon interview. He says this year's defense is much faster. Let's qualify that; here's our current expectations for new starters vs. the departures:

  • Kovacs to winner of safety free-for-all: Thomas Gordon appears to be sliding down to strong safety but the other spot could be any of Jarrod Wilson, Josh Furman, Marvin Robinson, Dymonte Thomas, Jeremy Clark, Allen Gant or Delano Hill, and if anything can be gleaned from Hoke's comments that list is a pick 'em through Thomas right now. Unless it's Clark or Gant the safeties are gaining a lot of speed, though that's overrated next to Kovac's intuitiveness.
  • Demens/Morgan/Ross/Bolden to Morgan/Ross/Bolden. Ross and Bolden are the faster dudes, though apparent speed at linebacker is more instinctual than athletic. We're trading Demens's underrated coverage and size for a sizeable jump in response time, which should work out to better run defense offsetting the loss in pass pro.
  • Roh/Campbell to Wormley/Heitzman/Black. But don't totally discount Godin, who's the guy in the video providing the requisite attack on a sled. I've got Wormley hype in my shopping cart and need just one more positive review to buy. It may seem weird that the coaches are still saying the 290-lb. redshirt freshman is an SDE while Jibreel Black, holding steady at 276, is the presumed DT, but remember they did the same with Heininger at 3T and RVB at 5T much of 2011. They're pretty interchangeable.
  • JT Floyd to Blake Countess. An upgrade.

A more accurate description would be the further you get from the line the greater the intensity of a general shift from greater experience to greater talent. It's hard to say if the net will be a better defense until we see what kind of sophomore leap we got out of the Class of 2011.

Welcome, early enrollees and your numbers:

Name No. Pos. Ht. Wt. (R/S/ESPN) # Previously worn by
Kyle Bosch 65 OL 6'5 307 (285/280/311) Patrick Omameh, Leo Henige
Jake Butt 88 TE 6'6 231 (230/220/231) Jim Mandich, Mark Campbell
Taco Charlton 33 DE 6'6 265 (240/235/249) Mike Taylor (LB), Carl Russ
Ross Douglas 7 DB 5'10 176 (180/180/181) Alfie Burch, Mark Jacoby
Dymonte Thomas 25 DB 6'2 187 (175/180/180) Ernest Shazor
Logan Tuley-Tillman 72 OL 6'7 285 (321/295/314) Dan Dierdorf, Jumbo Elliott

The one that stands out obviously is Taco Charlton, whose camp measurements had him at linebacker size while his spring weight puts him already well within the bell curve for starting WDEs. Woodley and Jibreel Black are the only rush ends in recent memory to arrive over 260 but they're a lot shorter guys. The closer comparison is Glen Steele, who was 6'5/255 as a freshman in '93, redshirted, and got into the rotation in '94 at about 270. Before we were thinking Taco would be either redshirted or deployed as a kind of situational Shawn Crable while the coaches waited for him to grow into a regular down player, but if he's large enough already to stand up to OTs, that puts him squarely in competition with Beyer/Clark/Ojemudia.

The other guy significantly off from the services' numbers is LTT, who's down 36 lbs. from what Rivals said. We were rooting for this! Scouts said he put on some bad weight last summer and he's a project recruit who like Long/Lewan before him needs a redshirt to learn technique no matter what the OT depth chart looks like right now.

Dymonte Thomas is also 1 or 2 inches taller than the sites pegged him.

Carl Russ ascendsSomebody's an early '70s fan. That 33 for Taco stands out; I'm sure he'll have an explanation that isn't "Let me give you a history lesson." But if you blinked at a non-back wearing that number, you could use a little refresher on early '70s linebackers. Michael Taylor (NNMT) survived Bo's weeding out process to become an All-American inside linebacker, tallying 132 tackles his senior year. The number was immediately inherited by Carl Russ (right), who walked on to the '71 team and starred on the '73 and '74 defenses, two of Bo's best. Both 33s had short NFL careers.

As for Rick Leach's digit going to a defensive back, considering all the recruiting profiles of 6'2" corners you'll be seeing here this summer you might as well read up now on Alfie Burch, the early '90s prototype for big boy boundary cornerbacks who can stand up to blocks on the edge and neutralize tall/rangy receivers. Course Ross Douglas isn't that—he's more of a nickel type. In the '70s it was worn by Mark Jacoby, Bo's "Wolf" who played kind of a Shawn Crable role from what's technically the same field position (SAM) that the nickel corner plays.

There is also a new crop of walk-ons. Hello new walk-ons!

Name No. Pos. Ht. Wt. Elig. Hometown (High School)
Brad Anlauf 49 WR 6'4 187 RS FR Hinsdale, Ill. (Hinsdale Central)
Shaun Austin 15 QB 6'1 204 RS FR Plymouth, MI (Plymouth)
Clark Grace 46 TE 6'3 228 RS FR Tecumseh, Ontario (L'essor)
Bobby Henderson 51 RB 5'11 226 RS FR Hopewell Junction, NY (John Jay)
Michael Jocz 95 TE 6'4 213 RS FR Novi, Mich. (Novi)
Dan Liesman 66 LB 6'2 220 RS FR Lansing, MI (Lansing Catholic)
AJ Pearson 36 DB 6'0 199 RS FR Johns Creek, Ga. (Northview)

Alex Mitropoulos-Rundus was on the roster last year as David. Internet search pulls up an interview with a really girlie site called Michigan: Her Campus where he's asked questions about what he looks for in a girl.

"I don't ever really think about a list of things that girls must have, I'm more of the type of guy that just knows when it's right or not.  We all have that gut feeling."

Gals don't even know when they've been Sam Webb'd.

Position Changes: Only ones of note are Wormley is listed as a "DL" (was a "DE" last year) and Matthew Godin was a "DT", is now a "DE". Safeties Allen Gant and Jeremy Clark are back to the nebulous "DB" which means nothing. Interestingly redshirt junior Anthony Capatina, listed as a kicker last year, is now a "DB". Matt Wile is listed as a "PK" and preferred walk-on Kenny Allen is a "K/P" so Hagerup remains the only designated punter on the roster. Read into that what you will.

Non-Returning Walk-ons: You've heard of some of them but from last year's roster we're missing receivers Steve Wilson and Devon Micou, tight ends Nate Allspach and Chris Eddins, safeties Charlie Zeller and Andrew Offerdahl, and cornerback Chris Maye. Walk-ons who didn't return for a 5th year are onetime rotation Seth Broekhuizen, injured Nate Brink, and long snapper Curt Graman.

Number changes: None so far that I've seen.

Weight Gain 2013: Brian covered on Tuesday.

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March 21st, 2013 at 10:05 AM | I love (Score:1 Overrated)
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that Dymonte has Shazor's number. I'm not really sure why, but I loved the way Shazor played and he seemed to be all over the field.

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March 21st, 2013 at 10:32 AM | Shazor (Score:3 Normal)
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was somewhat of a liability, other than the Purdont game of course. Feel bad for Shazor, i know his family needed the money but he made a very poor decision leaving early. Thomas will be a more well rounded safety IMHO...

"Once you've wrestled, everything else in life is easy"

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March 21st, 2013 at 11:32 AM | Shazor (Score:1)
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My memory may be off but I thought he was pretty solid in run support but not that great in passing situations.

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March 21st, 2013 at 12:00 PM | Concur totally (Score:2)
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I expected him to be great.  He wasn't.  Good run defender; clear liability in pass defense.  I felt that he would have been well served long term to have played college ball his senior year.

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March 21st, 2013 at 12:04 PM | Thomas is more athletic than (Score:3 Normal)
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Thomas is more athletic than Shazor was.

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March 21st, 2013 at 10:23 AM | Is LTT standing behind Kalis? (Score:2)
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Is LTT standing behind Kalis? It looks like it may be him. Really hard to tell though.

“What the mind can conceive, the mind can achieve and those who stay will be champions.” - Bo 

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March 21st, 2013 at 12:06 PM | It has to be either him or (Score:2)
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It has to be either him or Gibbs. I think it's Gibbs.

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March 21st, 2013 at 10:34 AM | OLB Jeff Akers also wore #33 (Score:2)
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OLB Jeff Akers also wore #33 in the early 80s

"the Spirit of Michigan...is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways....and a conviction that nowhere is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours" - Fielding Yost
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March 21st, 2013 at 10:53 AM | Thomas Gordon gave a nice (Score:2)
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Thomas Gordon gave a nice short interview! He seems like an interesting conversationalist hopefully he will be featured in more segments to come.

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March 21st, 2013 at 10:56 AM | Does anyone know (Score:2)
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if there's any diamonds in that rough of walk ons?  The two that stand out to me, based on that list, is a 6'4" WR (Anlauf) and a 6'0" DB (Pearson). 

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March 21st, 2013 at 11:20 AM | Michael Jocz highlights (Score:4 Normal)
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Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

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March 21st, 2013 at 11:23 AM | Dan Liesman highlights (Score:4 Normal)
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March 21st, 2013 at 11:25 AM | AJ Pearson highlights (Score:4 Normal)
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March 21st, 2013 at 3:19 PM | Thanks Magnus (Score:3 Normal)
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I do appreciate these...you da man.

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March 21st, 2013 at 10:57 AM | Same wavelength, different wording (Score:2 Normal)
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I say Kovacs was fast.  Baseball fans will relate; there are two types of center fielders -- the guys who use their raw speed to get to the ball, and the guys with the uncanny ability to be always standing under the spot the ball will go.  The latter is superior.

I'm nervous about the safeties.  Maybe I shouldn't be because Kovacs had a walk-on's athleticism, but I expect a downgrade in production because all the speed in the world doesn't matter without positioning and Kovacs was the best Wolverine I've seen at that.

 

D-line will be interesting with so many coming off redshirts.

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March 21st, 2013 at 11:00 AM | In other words, you need an (Score:2)
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In other words, you need an awful lot of elite speed to make up for poor reads.  

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March 21st, 2013 at 12:08 PM | It isn't that easy (Score:2)
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To stay with your comparison, I watched Kenny Lofton play CF for years.  He did not typically get a great read on the ball, but he typically caught everything because he not only had elite speed, he also had elite athleticism.  The instinctual CF will get to the stuff he should without fail, but he isn't going over the top of the fence to bring back HRs the way Lofton often did.  There is a trade-off there.  Hopefully, one of the safeties displays good instincts and has the elite athleticism and speed Kovacs lacked--and this isn't a knock on Kovacs, who was a superior college player.

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March 21st, 2013 at 12:12 PM | Gordon is as experienced as (Score:2)
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Gordon is as experienced as anyone on the defense, and he's always been fairly reliable even though he lacks raw talent and athleticism. I think the bigger question will be over who replaces him at FS. Wilson has a ton of talent and speed, he just needs the understanding of the game to click. Same with Thomas. Maybe he'll be ready right away, but that rarely happens with defensive backs.

I think having Countess back and having Raymon Taylor starting with a year of experience under his belt will do wonders for the secondary.

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March 21st, 2013 at 11:33 AM | Haha (Score:3 Normal)
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Haha

"Gals don't even know when they've been Sam Webb'd."

Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.

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March 21st, 2013 at 11:35 AM | Alfie Burch.  Thanks for (Score:2)
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Alfie Burch.  Thanks for bringing his name up, for I'd lost it in the archives of my brain.  Same thing happened not too long ago with Felman Malveaux (sp?).  Two names you'd think a person couldn't EVER forget, but I somehow did.

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March 21st, 2013 at 11:43 AM | #7 mark jacoby (Score:3 Normal)
jsimms
Joined: 07/14/2008
MGoPoints: 53

hey!  thanks for bringing up a real good guy #7 mark "jake" jacoby [or were you just throwing a bone to the older fans?]

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March 21st, 2013 at 10:36 PM | That guy was a beast. Had a (Score:1)
Deep Under Cover
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That guy was a beast. Had a forced fumble against Navy, if I remember correctly...

Deep under cover in THE enemy's territory

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March 21st, 2013 at 11:05 PM | The wolf position (Score:2)
wolfman7
Joined: 12/21/2011
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The wolf position was a strong safety who played more run than pass.

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March 21st, 2013 at 11:58 AM | Jeff Akers, No. 1985 OLB for Michigan. Today an NFL official (Score:2 Informative)
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I remember Jeff Akers who played LB on the great 1985 Michigan defense. Wore No. 33. He's now an NFL official.

Some interesting stuff on recruiting in the 1980s, Bo Schembechler, Nick Saban (OHIO LB coach at the time) and his team mate Jim Harbaugh:

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/football/2013/01/17/lynn-classical-grad-jeff-akers-top-his-game-college-football-official/1aNGFYb6PCVLuX8bZnzEzN/story.html

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March 21st, 2013 at 12:47 PM | The "wolf" position (Score:1)
CalifExile
Joined: 03/02/2010
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Your description of the position is different than my recollection of it. The greatest at the position was Don Dufek, Jr., who was named an All American safety. I think of the position as a combination LB-safety.

"After all was said and done, there was nothing left to do."

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March 22nd, 2013 at 8:02 AM | That's correct. It was a box (Score:2)
Seth
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That's correct. It was a box safety role, very similar to the 3-3-5's Spur. What I was pointing out is this is technically the same hole -- when you go to a nickel you typically pull the SAM for an extra DB. He still has to cover the slot, and in the run game he is a good tackler who has to take on some blocks but you try to let him flow free as much as possible.

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March 21st, 2013 at 1:53 PM | In the video if you look for (Score:2)
T4L
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Joined: 06/06/2010
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In the video if you look for it Dan Gibbs is the Right Guard and LTT is the Left Tackle with that third group, so that's where they are.

"Son tell me if I'm right, but its probably better without a big ugly rectum in front of you, and there are some big ugly rectums here. Am I right?"

-Mike Barwis

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