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Incompetence on a level that Michigan unlocked against Michigan State and Nebraska cannot be achieved by one man or even one team (MSU is good at defense, and hey, Nebraska did some good things). There's still the possibility that Borges and his charges are sabotaging themselves, but since that's impossible to prove let's permit that they do in fact wish to progress the ball forward, and parse out how much responsibility lies in the various inadvertent factors.
I thought I'd take us back through a timeline of the events that led to the state of the offensive roster, picking up blame on the way.
I wish we could blame this whole thing on the old coach. Wouldn't it be the most ironic thing if the great guru of offense was really at fault for Michigan's offensive woes? There are really three things I think we can lay at his feet, in order of importance:
|Michigan's 2009-2011 tight end recruits.|
Tight End, Briefly
We've had #1 out, and #3 is debatable: Y U NO RECRUIT THE BREAD AND BUTTER OF BORGES'S OFFENSE, GUY WHO INVENTED THE OFFENSE THAT MADE BORGES'S OFFENSE OBSOLETE? I can't blame him for skipping fullbacks or running backs who can block since he had a track record of developing fullbacks from the walk-on program, while his backs, e.g. Toussaint, were recruited to operate in space. I wish he'd redshirted Vincent Smith, or gotten a medical for him.
But I do think he could have seen the need for tight ends even before the abilities of Koger and Webb opened his eyes to that. Rodriguez ignored the position for two years, and when he started looking again it was for the 2011 class that was devastated by Rosenberg and The Process: Hoke and Borges went on the hunt for last-minute TEs in 2011 and came back with Chris Barnett, a vagabond of the type that Michigan typically stays away from. Barnett transferred almost right away; I put that on having just a few weeks.
Tight end is another position that typically requires a lot of development, but Michigan knew by mid-2011 that its 2013 starters would be, at most, true sophomores, and knew a year later that neither of their 2012 recruits were much for blocking. At this point any sane human would not have made the ability of their tight ends to block a key component of their offense.
Offensive Line, Longly
|Rodriguez put all of his eggs in the 2011 OL recruiting basket, and Michigan ended up with all their eggs in a project recruit's basket.|
As for the OL, the failure to recruit just one offensive lineman in 2010 is the centerpiece of modern bitching. Is that fair? Here's a line from Brian in Mike Schofield's recruiting post, dated June 2009:
"Michigan didn't need a huge offensive line class one year after taking six big uglies and graduating zero, but you never want fewer than three and you always want quality."
So yes it is established MGoPrecedent that fewer than three OL in a class no matter how much meat you have stacked for the meat god is not cutting it.
Offensive line recruiting happens a bit earlier than most other positions. Since they're unlikely to be starting for several years (even redshirt freshmen are pretty rare) OL recruits rightly look for coaching stability more than early opportunity. The 2009 class was narrowing down their lists before the 2008 season, and so on. With that said here's a timeline of Michigan offensive line recruiting:
2009 (recruited in early 2008): Tackles Taylor Lewan and Michael Schofield, and guard Quinton Washington. This despite a huge/mixed haul from 2008, when RR added Barnum and Omameh to Carr's class of O'Neill, Mealer, Wermers and Khoury. For the record O'Neill left the team in June 2009, and Wermers was gone in July (though his World of Warcraft account was presumably active), so the coaches wouldn't have adjusted to either of those departures at that time. Meat for 2013 Meat God: three redshirt seniors, one a potential Jake Long 2.0, can't do more because there's still six guys from the previous class.
[Fail leaps atop fail, after the jump]
2010 (recruited in 2008-'09): Center Christian Pace and air. Of all Michigan's injuries over the last four years the one to Pace is probably the least talked about yet the most damaging—yes even more than Molk's knee and Denard's elbow, and there's a case to be made for Woolfolk's ankle. The coaches wound up with a proto-Molk who went from zero to ludicrous off the ball. And…nobody. NOBODY! The feeling at the time, just so we're not deluding ourselves into thinking we were content then to rest on the 2008 class and get the 2013 kids in 2011:
Needs: Moderate. Michigan will have nine freshmen on campus this fall, but Moosman, Ortmann, and McAvoy graduate and Michigan should endeavor to keep the numbers on the line at about the current level. Two or three are likely; only one tackle is needed so there might be a slight emphasis on the interior.
Translation: need three, got one. That the one lost his career to injury is the No. 1 reason that center has been Mealer/Miller-or-Bust the last two years. Note that QWash didn't make the move to DL until 2010 but Meat for 2013 Meat God: just four dudes—Lewan, Schofield, Washington and Pace. Even if they all work out you're expecting the 2011 haul to net you the starting guard and all of your depth.
Michael Rosenberg and The Process Murdered the 2011 Class
Having pulled in just four players in the last two classes, Michigan was expected to get a good five quality options, the carrot being a clear path to a starting job by 2012 or '13, when the RR machine should be humming. Here's where that gamble met the instability of the program to produce a black hole.
|Ultimately the biggest effect of Rosenberg's vendetta was a year of negative publicity for Michigan, and a recruiting down year that stemmed from it.|
Few schools can point to an alum in the media who did so much damage to their program with so little. Practicegate calculatedly began with the 2009 season, and the threat of "major violations" atop the mounting losses as the year progressed helped to kill off the Rodriguez program's momentum.
Its most tangible effect was on recruiting the 2010 and 2011 classes, since it made sure the phrase "major violations" could be tacked on to any mention of Michigan to a recruit for that whole year. Recruiting is a world where kids are shown 10-30 different heavens and end up choosing one on factors as marginal as the color of the angels' (or helmets') wings, so a little thing like "their coach is under investigation" can matter a great deal, no matter how tiny the a molehill it started with.
Before that, Rich Rod was in on several 5-star types who'd wind up in the SEC, as well as Aundrey Walker (four-star from Glenville), James Elliott (went to Kentucky), and Andre Yruretagoyena, a spread-tastic OL from Roh/Lewan's school. They were also recruiting Zettel as a guard, and looked in good position for Tony Posada, provided Miami (YTM) didn't get too involved. Jordan Walsh was that year's annual Chicago-Guy-Who-Likes-Michigan-Then-Commits-Elsewhere except he chose Iowa instead of Michigan or OSU or ND. At least in-state spread-tackle Jake Fisher was in the fold, and they reeled in Ohio developmental project Jake Miller, who was rated by everybody as a DE at the time.
Other than Fisher, Practicegate killed off any chance of any Plan A targets coming this way. By this point they were also looking at Tyler Moore (went to Nebraska), Ryan Nowicki (went to Penn State), and various other names that would pop up in TomVH posts then disappear as quickly. Chris Bryant first showed up on radar as a guy fishing for an offer.
By the time the investigation concluded in fall 2010 there were only a few months left to 2011 signing day, and the appearance of program instability was replaced with the real program instability of the 2010 win-or-die-and-oh-yeah-do-it-without-a-defensive-backfield season. During the season Pace's career was lost to injury and Washington was swapped with Will Campbell—no they couldn't tack a redshirt on him then so hypothetical Will Campbell: 2013 guard was never going to happen.
The Process finished the job, since nobody was going to commit to Rodriguez if he could be fired, and Michigan spent the last few crucial months of the 2011 recruiting cycle leaving that completely in the air. The final firing chased Fisher off to Oregon. Bryant got his offer from the new staff and committed, and Posada committed but lasted all of a few months. The new staff focused their few weeks of recruiting on a few defensive prospects—the more immediate fire—and didn't add any last-minute Omameh-types. Meat for the 2013 Meat God: Schofield and Lewan, and two fliers in Miller and Bryant.
The Lizard Brain Strikes
You have to give tremendous credit to Hoke and Borges and Funk for the offensive line recruiting they pulled off in 2012 and 2013. They inherited a major problem and addressed it on the recruiting trail exactly as well as you could hope for. Imagine if Rich Rod had brought in ten four-star-or-better defensive backs in the 2009 and 2010 classes, and held on to all of them. Most programs would have supplemented that with some JUCOs but Michigan's transfer requirements make that not an option in Ann Arbor. Anyway as long as they can get these guys to stick around (hardly guaranteed) Michigan ought to have five good linemen going into 2015 and '16.
With those guys so young it's hard to evaluate their development. They've had Kyle Kalis and Ben Braden and Erik Magnusson and Blake Bars for a year and change, and you'd expect only Kalis, probably, to be better at this point than we've seen. Jack Miller's lack of development under this staff is more worrisome, but it's hardly unheard of for a project recruit to not pan out. I give Bryant a total pass since he was a project and he's been too injured to practice. And while we're we're hardly the only school to be starting a true freshman mid-way through the season (Notre Dame is already playing onetime Michigan target Steve Elmer) I treat any contribution from 2013 guys as a bonus.
Where I find Hoke and Borges and Funk culpable is:
1. Changing up/not knowing their personnel. Schools do this, but it comes with a cost. When you see players missing assignments and doing a terrible job on combo blocks this year, a big part of that I bet is they're not used to playing with each other. Brian wishes they'd just kept rolling with Miller, whatever his problems with blocking, because Glasgow's snapping deficiency is costing them a drive per game, and you're not getting much better blocking out of the guard replacements, and meanwhile you've thrown out any experience they gained by playing together since spring. I tend to agree, with the caveat that I completely understand at least one shuffle after Akron and UConn.
|We did see plenty of problems with Miller and Kalis early on, and there's little guarantee that they would have fared any better than their replacements. But OL do tend to improve the more time they spend next to one another.|
This goes doubly for the non-OL positions. It took them half the season to stop pretending Funchess is a TE on most plays, and they still go back to that at times. They also keep going back to A.J. Williams as a key blocker. And Toussaint or Green. It's unfortunate that the backs can't block, but neither should their coaches be making their blocks the only thing between Denicos Allen and Devin Gardner's midsection. Sacks caused by non-OL still make the OL look bad.
2. Changing up/not knowing their offense. We still don't know who they are or what they're trying to accomplish. They burned a bye week on the tackle-over gimmick that's so dead now the fans boo it when they see it, and so scouted that opponents immediately jam nine in the box when they do. They went to an almost Tiller-level passing spread for Notre Dame, and they broke out the run-from-the-gun/PA max protect passing offense against Indiana which worked against Indiana, but once that was scouted and opponents realized how much this puts on the backs and young OL to pick up complex blocking assignments we went two games in a row with negative rushing yards. No matter what they're good at, they won't commit to anything long enough to get good at it.
3. Giving up the offense's advantages. You've heard the complaints about how the play-calling isn't cohesive, and the last two games have demonstrated just how much of an easy scout this makes them. The one thing offense has on defense is they get to dictate the play. Defenses will do unsound things to mitigate that—for example Michigan State's deep coverage was weak by alignment—but when Michigan's only got one or two plays they run from a given look, they just hand this right over.
The result is the offense practices a lot of plays but gets good at none of them, and few things are ever simple, even for the guys you need to make things simple for.
4. WTF. Schofield is a 5th year senior and three-year starter who missed a slide protection. On an offense that's doing well that could be chalked up as a fluke, but people are talking about it because it's not the only time this year that one of the offense's working parts inexplicably broke down. Here's Space Coyote in that thread:
Those two plays were the most angry I've been at the OL this year, FWIW. So that explains how bad both missed assignments were. Michigan's staff is simplifying the pass protectin scheme to a high school level and the players still aren't executing. That screams coaching issue at the position level to me, because you can't dumb down the pass pro anymore.
Never been Laid.
his reporting sure the hell is, so why not everything else?
Great, just a punched a hole in my work computer screen.
By the way, if you're looking for you daily dose of karmic retribution, go read the reviews of Rosenberg's book on Amazon.
that pic of Rosenberg sure is annoying
As the post clearly mentions, it's UM's transfer requirements that limit our ability to get JUCOs, not Hoke's policy.
- Is in good academic and social standing at his/her prior institution.
- Has a distinguished record of college work, earning a cumulative GPA of at least a B (3.0 on a 4.0 scale) or better.
- Has earned sophomore or junior standing (preferably) with transferable credit earned at a community college or another two or four -year college or university
If not, coming out of a junior college, they don't seem exactly insurmountable.
My understanding is that the "transferabe credit" line is generally the sticking point. The university simply doesn't let a lot of credits transfer in.
At least not from the sort of JUCOs that field good football teams.
In the SEC, the JUCO transfers are mostly guys who couldn't make the academic eligibility requirements for D1. They go to "school" for a couple years to meet the transfer requirements and get good enough a football to make it worth the risk to take them.
which I imagine is the situation for many transfer candidates. A 101 course at JuCo college is going to count for a 101 class at Michigan, or that's how I read the "Equivalent Credit" statement below. Perhaps they are more strict than the way they make it seem on the website.
Courses you’ve completed at other colleges and universities that closely match courses taught at U-M will usually transfer as “equivalent credit.” These courses will appear on your University of Michigan transcript with a U-M course number assigned.
Courses you’ve taken at other colleges and universities that do not match courses in the same departments on our campus may transfer as “departmental credit.” (Please note that departmental credit, while transferable and usually applicable as elective credit, may only be used toward meeting distribution or concentration requirements with the permission of an academic or concentration advisor.)
Courses that cover a broad range of topics within a general area of study are considered “interdepartmental credit.” These are courses that, because of the scope of their subject material, cannot be assigned to any individual academic department. Like departmental credit, interdepartmental credit is usually applicable as elective credit. (It also must be approved by an academic or major advisor if it is to be used toward distribution* or major requirements.)
I've been through the process (as of 2001, so...) and been told it was different elsewhere (as of Michigan State 2002, so...), and I've used that as my basis--plus that Michigan doesn't get transfers and JUCOs--to justify the theory that Michigan's transfer system sucks for athletes.
What happened to me is I dropped out of my pre-approved study abroad program (which placed me in a grammar class with a bunch of Chinese kids) and got accepted for a semester into the actual school, which was awesome but created all sorts of hassles for me once I came back with a transcript in French, grades on a 20-point scale that never awards higher than 16, and classes that translated as "Looked at Buildings."
First you submit your transcripts from your other school, as well as the course descriptions (this was a pain in the ass before they put that sort of thing online and publicly available.)
Then they take FOREVER to review them. Like months. They come back with a decision on each class, where they've matched it up to the closest course description they can find among Michigan courses.
Then they send you a letter saying you got X amount of credit from them, without a breakdown. Most of your credit is elective X credit, and it is about half of the amount of credit hours that you actually took.
Then you call them and ask for a breakdown of their decisions and they schedule you with an academic advisor.
Then the academic advisor goes through the transcripts you brought with you and the letter you brought with you and asks where you see the discrepency? I DIDN'T GET TO SEE ONE BECAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THE HELL YOU CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER!!!
Then you circle various classes like a 400-level history course taught at the University of Paris IV, i.e. the Sorbonne, i.e. the Francophone Oxford, which classwas taught in French to French students from France, and you say that should count as a high-level French course toward a French minor. And that one on French grammar should...
And then you don't hear from them in awhile until you go in to meet with your academic advisor because you want to graduate soon and these credits are still up in the air.
And then they tell you that the comparable courses you suggested in your review with an advisor were not comparable so they denied your appeal and you get what they gave you.
Then they suggest if you want to finish your degree you should come back for an summer courses and an extra semester, and they offer to make an appointment with financial aid, because what's another 20% of debt on top of your four years of University of Michigan debt?
I don't know how it is for football players--it would seem to behoove them to have a different advisor than they gave me for my study abroad credit kerfluffle. But given all the options and how easy most schools make it, if a transfer ever came across one of the idiots I did--and I'm sure a few are still around--that would be the end of transferring to Michigan.
Anyway, seriously, it's about the level of school--Michigan thinks their credits are worth more than almost anywhere, so I would guess most of the players who go the junior college route because their grades aren't Division I-worthy are not going to be getting the kind of credit that transfers well to Michigan. Grant Mason transferred successfully...from Stanford. Spencer Brinton went to San Diego State and had a two-year Mormon mission. Steve Threet went to Georgia Tech for a year. Their last JUCO was Austin Panter, who came from Butler and was studying to be a chiropractor. Jonathan Goodwin went to OHIO! for a season before transferring--since he was a 5th year guy it's plausible he started from near scratch.
To find JUCOs before Panter you have to go back to Tyrone Butterfield and Russell Shaw.
What might be more infuriating is transferring within the IU system. I was enrolled at the Bloomington campus nearly a decade ago. I left school due to a lack of funds. A few years ago I decided to go back to school to become a social studies teacher. While at Bloomington, I was working towards a History degree. I assumed that many of those credits would simply transfer directly, thus removing the need for the majority of my content classes. I currently have five different 400 level courses from the History department at Bloomington that only count as general electives at the regional campus. I've been told that if I switch to a History degree at the regional campus that they will count as a direct replacement for upper-level courses in that degree program.
Now I have to decide which is better for my ultimate goal of coaching tennis at a small to moderate sized college/university. Sadly, no one on my campus has ANY idea what I should do to achieve that goal.
First, Michigan does permit transfers from Jucos, without any problem at all. If, you take the right classes.
Second, Michigan football has long frowned on jucos because we can recruit so well, it makes senst to have a player for four (or five) years than only two, and the payoff of a juco immediately doesn't pay off.
Third, my experience with juco players, is the reason they are in juco in the first place is because they were not academically eligble to go to a major school. Yes there is some talent. However, far and away, it is dumb talent (okay, there are certainly exceptions).
Fourth, transfers from non juco must sit out a year before playing.
It's understandable, then, why the staff didn't look around for transfers too hard in bulk. They did look for a graduated qb, rightfully so, though.
The ability to get transfer players (not necessarily from a JUCO) is somewhat limited - but it isn't impossible.
Brinton wasn't a JUCO. He transferred from San Diego State after a 2 year Mormon mission. Threet transferred from Georgia Tech to Michigan to Arizona State.
The ability to get transfer players (not necessarily from a JUCO) is somewhat limited - but it isn't impossible.
UM just doesn't do JUCO in football. You can say it's academics, but we get a few in basketball. I am not sure the reasons why, but UM has just never really taken many JUCO transfers in football.
Hoke doesn't get to decide whether the program can accept JUCO players, that comes from higher up.
Notre Dame has a similar policy, which Charlie Weis said in an interview that he was told he wasn't allowed to recruit JUCO players when he took the job.
I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.
I would s%$@t on him though
Five letter words starting with S and ending in T
I see that Spain got off light this week.
Lizard brain. I almost forgot about you. Welcome to the new pain version 2.5.
I don't know man. We have two 5th year tackles, a 2nd year starting 265lb blocking TE, a 5th year tailback, a record setting wide receiver, a freak in Funchess, and the top rated dual threat QB from the 2010 class. If the staff can't take those components and make the offense successful, it's on them. OL recruiting is obviously an issue, but it's not the reason we've rushed for -69 yards the past two games.
Most of the rationalizations about why our offense/OL suck so hard seem to include legitimate reasons for mediocrity or a step below.
I have yet to hear a legitimate reason for total deathpocalypse. Someone is failing HARD at their job.
UMs fail in the run game and pass protect has been historically bad in 3 of the last 4 games. Upgrade those areas to poor or below average and we're ridiculously sitting at 8-1 right now. Go big or go home I guess.
but I am not sure you will like them. QB competency and wide receiver depth, and they both involve the same person. We are a little over a year removed from Devin Gardner being moved from quarterback to wide receiver, and not a soft move, but a move in which Bellomy was named the backup and Gardner ceased taking snaps. This tells me two things, one, there was a point in time in which Gardner's quarterbacking days at Michigan were considered over, and two, the coaching staff was very concerned about vertical passing options. Little did they know, 1) Denard Robinson would sustain a season ending arm injury, 2) Bellomy would, well, ya know, and 3) Morris gets fricking mono and barely plays a down for his entire senior season. So, Garnder back to QB, there goes one vertical threat at wide receiver, Bellomy ACL (or whatever), Morris not the least bif of an option. So it is Garnder with no other options, and then as if the above were not enough, down goes Darboh, taking away the next planned deep threat after Garnder. So in short, our quarterback was considered done quarterbacking a little over a year ago, we don't have a backup that can play, and we lost both our expected vertical passing threats from one year ago.
The add in a dash of youth on the offensive line, and a half cup of coaching inadequacies, and let it sit for two hours. Hmmm, that is some tasty Deathpocalyse.
Most of those issues involve the staff putting themselves in situations that are absolutely BEGGING Murphy's Law to pull out the rug. Furthermore, even the best (realistic) scenarios are rather leery.
If your intent is to blame Devin Gardner, then you're almost entirely wrong. I think the coaches shat the bed when they stopped giving Gardner snaps in practice. And Bellomy is yet another data point in the tenuous track record of Al Borges as a QB coach.
blaming Devin Gardner personally any more than I blame "the Flu" for getting me sick or the power from going out during a wind storm. I do think there was a reason that he was moved to wide receiver when all logic would have indicated that was a shoe-in back up and eventual two year starter after Robinson's departure. An inventory was taken of Gardner's potential at QB at one point in time and that inventory resulted in a hard move to wide receiver. That tells me something. A little pub from a QB camp in the off-season and the #98 does not change that.
What it tells ME is that the coaches blew it hardcore and this is a major black mark on their records. Look no further than Gardner's numbers. Coaches are not immune from doing stupid things that bite them in the ass later.
How was Devin at WR before he switched last year? Do you think he had any role in the switch, as in wanting to get on the field? What position do you think he will play in the NFL? Were there any other deep threats on the field last year? Other than Funchess was there a single WR that could catch a ball above the 6'2" mark last year (other than Devin)? What position was Funchess recruited at, and what did he play last year?
This, completely. The coaches assessed their personnel and made a calculated gamble. They ended up losing the bet, but that doesn't mean it was a wrong decision to take the gamble. They saw deficiencies and did what they could to get the best players on the field (with requisite risk).
Gardner as an NFL QB right now?
But even there, we see possibilities missed - we continue to pretend Funchess is a TE and not Megatron-lite, Norfleet sits on the bench, and Dileo gets few targets. Yeah, the last two aren't downfield threats but they could at least occupy a linebacker /hybrid in coverage and serve as a dump off when Gallon an Funchess are bracketed.
Funchess should have gone full time WR as soon as Darboh got hurt, if not earlier.
of Norfleet confuses the hell out of me. I liked what we were doing with Denard last year against Iowa, Ohio, and South Carolina. I understand that Norfleet is no Denard but we were running some really nice stuff out of what almost look liked a triple option for stretches last year. I am stunned that Norfleet has not been used in the slot and out of the backfield this year. I get the sense that he is very frustrated as well just based on body language, etc.
I want to clarify that I don't think Norfleet would cure all our woes, and it's entirely possible he's a poor route runner and blocker and that's keeping him benched.
But we know he's got the quickness to be dangerous in space. Even Borges must think so, since he used him as the designated totally surprising jet sweep guy for awhile.
Is it really plausible that Norfleet is worse at being a 3rd/4th WR than AJ Williams is at being a blocking TE?
At this point having fewer than 3 receivers on the field is just asking to get blitzed to death. Max protect really just seems to be providing more opportunities to let a defender through while simultaneously providing fewer outlet targets for Devin.
that jet sweep is tricky. I am all, "Whoa, that just blew my mind."
Of course, at least it averaged more than 1YPC.
it's entirely possible he's a poor route runner and blocker and that's keeping him benched
Poor blocking is obviously not a criteria used to keep someone off the field.
That is a very insightful comment. The lack of WR depth has been palpable. and with Bellomy's injury, we've got nothing in reserve at qb. Gardner is tentative. He got that way, perhaps, from being pressured so often, but he also did a lot of it last year (though to be fair you can't blame him for that last after being thrown into the cauldron mid-season). I like Chesson, a lot, but losing Darboh (a position that can be played as a freshman) and no other depth recruited by Rodriguez is a real problem.
1) The inability of the offensive line to implement even high school-level blocking schemes, and
2) The refusal (or inability) of Borges to call plays that minimize the stress on the line.
If I saw any effort to address either of those issues, I would feel a lot better about the situation.