Hokepoints: The Hoke Successor Matrix Comment Count

Seth

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You're going to see plenty on these pages about guys we think might coach at Michigan next year, since it's pretty much a sure thing at this point that Hoke will not. I thought it would be as good a time as any to build some sort of consensus of what we're looking for and how much of it we want relative to other factors. Other than, you know. "Jim Harbaugh."

Last week one of the diarists put together a matrix for evaluating the coaching candidates. I didn't like how he weighted the things, so at the time I put together a draft version of a more detailed "what we're looking for" system. I have since overhauled and updated it to be a more accurate reflection of my feelingsball:

The last five Michigan hires are given at the time of their selection to establish a baseline. Some things may seem wonky, like Bo being rather low, but remember his resume was that of an assistant (not coordinator) who'd been successful in the MAC. Some candidates in short:

Category: Jim Harbaugh Dan Mullen Gary P'son Les Miles Mike Gundy Tom Herman Bob Stitt Pat Narduzzi
Success (25 max) 43* 24 23 42* 28* 12 12 12
Offense (20) 9 14 2 6 12 19 15 0
Defense (20) 10 6 13 9 3 0 3 20
Teambuilding (15) 11 7 7 11 7 12 5 7
Long-Term (13) 7 0 2 -5 -2 3 11 1
Short-Term (7) 6 3 4 4 3 1 0 3
Attractiveness 68 54 51 50 48 47 47 43

* I calculated success but maxed it out at 25, at which point the guy's proven he can coach.

We can change things around but I figured one matrix would be useful for our discussions going forward. At least it passes the eye exam. Kinda. I don't know how to make it stop rating Les Miles so high unless I need to raise the importance of long-term success.

Why the matrix?

Usefulness is in discussing the particular pros and cons of these guys in context, because things like "is he a culture fit" otherwise tend to outweigh "can he coach football." A brief explanation of my scoring system after the jump.

1. Previous Coaching Success (25 points possible)

This metric is about straight-up previous success. If he's been winning, building programs, and collecting hardware and rings he is already a quarter of the way to a sure thing. I counted accomplishments as a coordinator at 25%; there was a diary in the long long ago that suggested this was a good relative measure for a coordinator who's actually in charge of the side of the ball he's in charge of. Components:

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Number of Gatorade baths should be a metric; number of times the coach then lapped up the spilled Gatorade should not.

1a. Winning percentage. I love winning man. You know? Like it's better than losing? This is a 10-scale. The formula is all wins as a head coach plus .25 times all wins as a coordinator, divided by wins+losses+1/4 coordinator wins+losses. I take the resulting winning percentage, add a tenth (because winning 90% of your games gets a 10/10) and multiply by 10, rounding up. Winning at a Bo clip gets you an 8/10. Yost would be a 10.

1b. Power 5 bonus. +1 for each winning team, win over 9 in a season, conference title/title game, and BCS bowl.

1c. Builder bonus. For each team he rebuilt, max 10, where zero is he didn't change the team's success rate from when he took over and 10 is turning Indiana into a national power.

1d. NFL bonus. +1 for each playoff win, +1 for each win over 10

1e. Other accomplishments. Like coaching hardware, major upsets, winning the FCS national championship.

It's possible to get over 25 points but this is about whether he'll win at Michigan, not Hall of Fame credentials, so I've capped it at 25. At that point the answer is "yes, the guy can coach."

2. Offense and 3. Defense

This is less of a reward for how good his units have been and more of a way to project how good of an offense he would be able to build at Michigan given past performance. Components:

2a. Expertise. Maximum is 10, which is the league follows whatever he's doing. A 5 is an offense that gets what you'd expect from its talent. Head coaches who haven't coached it are graded on their hires at half rate.

2b. Position. Maximum 3 points for being a whisperer of a certain position, e.g. Brady Hoke with defensive linemen. Certainty principles are good.

2c. Innovation. Max 4 = Inventor. 3 = Early adopter. 2 = Keeps up. 1 = Has heard of it.

2d. Execution. Max 3 = Bo-like rep master who keeps things simple and only plays dudes who get it right. 2 = generally plug & play, 1 = don't notice it, 0 = not a priority. I probably should have allowed for negative points, but only someone who's seen Michigan's current coaching staff would ever believe in it.

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You get more points for winning national recruiter of the year awards while owning the Midwest than for being raised here.

4. Team Building

Mostly recruiting, but a third of it is development. Recruiting is split into midwest and nationally. Components:

4a. Midwest Recruiting. How well does he know the home front, especially Michigan and Ohio coaches. 5 = Local HS coaches will mention his name unbidden. 3 = Has good ties. 1 = Has only pulled a few recruits from the B1G footprint.

4b. National Recruiting. The corollary to the above. 5 = HS kids mention his name with reverence. 3 = Regularly extends footprint and brings in national blue chips.

4c. Development. A catch-all for whether players tend to play up to/meet their potential. Tendency to redshirt and retain players, and plays a lot of upperclassmen. 5 = Mentally add a star, 4 = Add half a star, 3 = Lots of outperformers, 2 = Regular outperformers, 1 = Some successes.

5. Long Term Program Health

Things are definitely desperate enough that Michigan would take a stop-gap solution and expect to be looking for a successor in a few years; that's a few years of not this. But ultimately coaching transitions are bad, and should be avoided at all costs, as should the things that tend to initiate coaching searches or damage programs down the road. Like…

5a. Will he last? I put this on a scale of +4 to –4, based on age and where he's at in his career (e.g. if he may use success to move on to the NFL). A –4 is a guy already on his downswing; a +4 is a guy not yet 40.

5b. Not a dick? Fuzzy wuzzies win you points at Michigan. A 3 is a loveable bear who walks in saying "Michigan fergodsakes," a 2 is a genial dude, a 1 is a dick but only in a good way, and a 0 is a typical football coach.

5c. Culture fit? Again I'm tempted to include a minus level here because Rodriguez, but I gave nobody negs. A +3 is a guy who knows all the factions already and can walk in and placate them, a 2 is a good fit, a 1 has only some small natural enemies, and a 0 is a stranger who'd have to make his own good will.

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Is Mullen's Rodriguezity a concern? What's good for the future only matters if he can get there without the self-appointed caretakers of "Michigan Man" ripping it from him first.

5d. Ethics. This one is a scale of dirtiness or cleanliness. A +3 is Beilein, +2 = good guy, +1 is no problems, 0 = typical, -1 = occasional whiff of a violation, -2 = so what?, and -3 = a concern.

6. Short Term Program Health

Can he save the recruiting class, tack on some late great pickups, keep the team together, and win with what's on hand? Because we'd like to win sooner rather than later.

6a. Hotness. Picking up a big name will stir the positive feelings for the school, lead to big donations, and create an atmosphere of general not like now.

6b. Fit for current talent. Michigan's been running zone this year so they can probably do either that or man blocking; the greater concern is quarterback. Rich Rod wouldn't be a great fit for the guys on the roster now because of that. This is a 4 scale but I was pretty lenient on all but super-spread-to-run guys because of the versatility of the current roster.

6c. Attrition. This is a guess based on feelings and stuff but a legit concern. I only gave out at worst a –2 on a scale of zero to –4. Zero means the hire solidifies the guys with a foot out the door, a –2 means the loose threads snap, and –4 is a mass exodus.

Comments

Seth

October 29th, 2014 at 11:21 AM ^

-2 is a "So what." I probably should have had a better title for it. I was trying to capture the zeitgeist of the fanbase at the time of his hire. RR recruited a lot of guys to WVa that he couldn't have to Michigan. Rodriguez wasn't a Beilein and we knew it. I wanted to beat my biases on this.

Only a -3 is a problem.

ak47

October 29th, 2014 at 12:41 PM ^

He also had a habit of suspending guys who violated rules for a half of important games or not at all.  His punishment record at wvu was similar to what we get on Dantanio for so if that rubs you the wrong way then rich rod should have a minus for ethics.  I'm also confused how narduzzi has as high of a score for program builder as mullen.  They both are coaching at schools currently in the midst of their greatest 4 year stretch of all time but one is doing at as a head coach in the sec and the other is an assitant in down big ten.

raleighwood

October 29th, 2014 at 12:42 PM ^

I'm trying to figure out how RR got 19 Power 5 "bonus points".  He coached in the Big East which isn't part of the Power 5.  Three of the teams (UConn, Cincy and USF) didn't land in Power 5 Conferences.  The ones that did (outside of Louisville), are middle of the road at best (Pitt, 'Cuse and Rutgers).  It was a league full of Purdues.  The whole reason that the Big East imploded is that it wasn't good enough to be viable on its own.  I'm not sure how that merits bonus points.......and we know that he's not getting bonus points for what he accomplished at Michigan (or Arizona to this point).  

Gameboy

October 29th, 2014 at 11:05 AM ^

There is nothing objective about a method if you modify the method to better reflect your feelingball after the results are tabulated.

You might as well just list your feelingball list to begin with.

ehatch

October 29th, 2014 at 11:14 AM ^

I feel like there should be a penalty for being an assistant under a HC that is on the same side of the ball.  I'm looking at Herman and Narduzzi getting nearly perfect scores in their discipline despite being under Meyer and Dantonio, respectively.  I would expect an innovator like Stitt to get a higher score for offense than Herman (still zero or nearly so for defense).  

MI Expat NY

October 29th, 2014 at 12:32 PM ^

I'm less worried about Herman.  I think Meyer relies on his OC a lot more than your typical guru head coach.  His offense had a noticeable decline at Florida after Mullen left.  I think Urban Meyer is definitely a thinker on offense and has an idea of what he wants his offense to look like in a given year, but his OC is largely responsible for making it work.  

Ron Utah

October 29th, 2014 at 11:16 AM ^

Seth...this is awesome.  I think you've put together good metrics for a quantitative rating system.  Thanks for the work.

Stitt is probably overrated by a couple of points, since his success is the most difficult to translate to top-tier football, but I'm picking nits.

This is great stuff, and I appreciate it.

dragonchild

October 29th, 2014 at 12:23 PM ^

OK I'm exaggerating.  My point is, he's getting phenomenal results given what he's got to work with.  Frankly I think Stitt would make a great assistant, but HC?  It's one thing to win any football games at all at CSM, but it's entirely another to make the most of four-star talent.  Now, that fly sweep tweak was genius, but the biggest question mark with Stitt is how well he can scale his program to the sort of resource mountain that is Michigan.  Hoke obviously had problems with it and Stitt's challenge is even more immense.

Ron Utah

October 29th, 2014 at 12:20 PM ^

No, his players are not engineers first.  I live near CSM and can tell you that Stitt actively recruits football players in Texas and tries to convince them to become engineers.

Believe me, he's not out recruiting engineers to play football.  It's the other way around.

LJ

October 29th, 2014 at 1:30 PM ^

There's definitely something wrong with the system if Stitt is just 1 point less attractive than Gundy.  I mean, I think there's a possibility that Stitt is a very good coach, but who in their right mind would even briefly consider Stitt as on par with Gundy?

kehnonymous

October 29th, 2014 at 11:19 AM ^

Not that I'd consider either man a bonafide possiblity as the new head coach, but what is the basis in fact for Pat Narduzzi and Tom Herman being negative 2 in the ethics column?  I wasn't aware of any major issues for either of those two guys.

Unless you're factoring in that they accepted jobs at MSU and OSU in the first place, which is a valid answer :)

Seth

October 29th, 2014 at 11:34 AM ^

I gave that to RR so I'd better be as tough on guys I suspect a lot more dirt from.

Herman is Urban Meyer's recruiting superstar, and Urban Meyer is perhaps the dirtiest recruiter in the game other than Freese. Meyer is the master of the well-timed fib.Also, Ohio State escaped the Tressel stuff, but the cars and the apartments that come fully loaded, and the blatant lies have to trickle down to a guy on Herman's level.

MSU's problems are of a different nature. They recruit a lot of guys (not all of their guys) who have problems respecting fellow human beings. The result is a lot of violent and negative behaviors both on and off the field that the football staff ignore or even tacitly encourage. Dantonio, like Tressel, bases his moral code on obedience and loyalty, not right and wrong. He's a damn good coach but not a coach Michigan would have been able to tolerate, and Narduzzi has been there every step of the way.

If either of these guys were to be hired at Michigan, there would be a real fear of either of those program cultures being transmitted here, where you can't get away with that kind of stuff. If we're importing a rival's program by hiring a rival's assistant, we should recognize the bad parts of that program could come too.

TdK71

October 30th, 2014 at 7:48 AM ^

Our Richard and that work make it OK. I remember when Chelios came to the Wings, a friend of mine was pissed.. I asked him why? He said that guy  Chelios is a dick! 

My response was 'Yeah, but he's our dick now.. and that's a good thing.

That's how I feel about Harbaugh, if he's our coach Marky D, and Urban better setup truckload deliveries of antacids. 

 

west2

October 29th, 2014 at 1:58 PM ^

I understand the Michigan tradition of integrity and rising above the dirty business of recruiting and certain other activities of the current college football game.  But nowadays trying to maintain this is ultimately a losing battle as recruiting is like raising pigs-you are going to get dirty one way or the other.  If M wants to compete for the NC then they have to play these games to compete for talent don't they?  What Dantonio is doing is within the rules but takes advantage of the gray areas.  This Bertha-better-than-you attitude is where some of the SEC sentiment against the stodgy arrogant BgTn.comes from.  Is it time to do whatever it takes to get top players on the field and win?  What do you think?

Mr Miggle

October 29th, 2014 at 3:50 PM ^

Basketball recruiting is generally considered dirtier than football and Michigan is an easier school to recruit for in football anyhow, We're already getting very highly ranked recruiting classes. We just need to pair them with a first rate coach.

Michigan isn't going to sacrifice its principles and it never should. The football program represents the school. It dosn't drive it.

Ron Utah

October 29th, 2014 at 11:35 AM ^

Was the best possible candidate at the time.  He was known as THE innovator of the zone read/spread to run offense and had turned around one of the worst programs in college football.

There was no better choice.

RR's failure is a combination of factors--his arrogance/obsessiveness about his offense put the defense on the back burner, and when he finally realized he needed to fix it he never hired a guy who knew how or who fit with his philosophy.  Just as significant, the university and the alumni never supported him fully.

RR is one of the best coaches in college football, and anyone who says otherwise is just not paying attention to facts.