Hockey Hot Takes: Here We Go Again Comment Count

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In Michigan sports that weren't that, Michigan kicked off its hockey season with a shaky sweep of Mercyhurst. The Lakers were .500 in Atlantic Hockey last year and lost five of their top six scorers to graduation. They looked like they were in for a rough year; Michigan dominated attack time and shots. They did not so much dominate on the scoreboard, with one-goal wins Friday and Saturday. (Michigan got an empty-netter Friday.)

Hockey takes in addition to Adam's Goal By Goal:

  • Not seeing much difference in the team this year. A lot of individual talent, a lot of breakdowns. Michigan gave up a ton of odd-man rush goals and turned the puck over at or near the blueline far too much. Actual zone entry plays were rare; instead Michigan just tried to gain the zone with individual skill. They'll win their share of games, but I didn't see much that would indicate a turnaround from the last few frustrating years.
  • Example of the above. On Sunday Alex Kile was on a 3-on-2 on which he had two guys open and trailing; he chose to try to beat a defenseman around the corner and blasted the goalie for an interference penalty.
  • Werenski is up and down and frustrating. He stands out as a super talented even with a bunch of other NHL draft picks on the team. I expect his wrister to pick out a corner every time he gets an opportunity with it. But he was the D caught up ice on Mercyhurst's 2-on-1 goal Sunday and there were several other questionable defensive plays besides. He was iffy on D last year and should by rights be a freshman right now; I don't think that's a reason for long term concern but I was hoping he'd show a little better.
  • Nieves is still Nieves. Perimeter player. Not expecting a breakout year. He's centering the "top line" mostly for morale reasons, I think—Compher's line is the actual top line.
  • I don't have a feel for Connor yet. Sometimes takes me a while to figure out what I think of a player. Connor is currently in that boat.
  • The third line is pretty dang good. It was Calderone, Marody, and Warren. All of them are high effort, physical guys. Calderone had some trouble receiving passes, but other than that those guys dominated their opposite number. Michigan is going to get production out of them against opponents' bottom six.
  • Depth: questionable. Michigan skated seven defensemen on Sunday and elected to double-shift centers on the fourth line. I'm fine with this—one of my complaints over the last few years is that Michigan didn't seem to play its stars enough—but if there are injuries Michigan could be really thin at F.

This will be another season flirting with the tourney cutoff. Michigan's awful schedule hurts them significantly here. The Big Ten appears to be a tire fire again. These days RPI overcorrects for home games and Michigan loaded their schedule with them. And their nonconference schedule is mostly crap. I wouldn't be surprised if Michigan is the non-tourney team with the best record in April.

More Big Ten tire fire details. Alarmingly for the league and Michigan's schedule strength, Minnesota is 0-3 and has scored just one goal. Everyone expected the Gophers to take a step back after graduating huge chunks of their team; that much of a retreat is going to be yet another anchor for a league that is already carrying several around.

Meanwhile Wisconsin is coming off a BU/BC weekend in which they were outscored 10-1, OSU has been swept by Miami and BGSU, and Michigan State was just swept by Denver (total goals 7-2). Big Ten teams aren't just losing, they're getting crushed.

Penn State(!) is the only team with anything approximating an encouraging start after a competitive split with Notre Dame. Everything else points to a repeat of last year minus a good Minnesota team. Maybe the Big Ten could spend some of their filthy lucre on hiring non-incompetent hockey coaches next year? Could we try that maybe?  MSU and Wisconsin allowing Tom Anastos and Mike Eaves to return is bad for everybody.

Yost things. They have walked back a lot of the in-game commercials this year, so that's nice. IIRC the only thing still around is Find The Object Under The Corporate Logo. That's down from just under a dozen per game last year.

The folks in charge are still a bit off, though. Hockey Special K has limited opportunities to do his thing because of the nature of hockey but he's still jamming in a goal horn—completely unnecessary w/ the bad—and then playing pump-up music before the puck drop. Why Special K insists on playing 5 seconds of music before every kickoff/puck drop is always going to be a mystery.

Also the concession prices remain completely out of whack. When it's more expensive than Joe Louis I'm going to avoid buying things out of principle. I can't imagine the tiny incremental profit increase is worth the psychic damage to hockey fans who are already pretty beat up. I almost dropped my tickets this year because I could probably TiqIq the entire schedule for half of what my seats cost. Like, I decided not to and then two weeks after the deadline I relented.

Yost is not priced at all sensibly, especially when it comes to students. They're down to two sections and an overflow in the endzone, which is super depressing. I know we want the hockey program to break even but surely the atmosphere in the building is more important than X thousand dollars.

Comments

JeepinBen

October 20th, 2015 at 12:35 PM ^

Hiring non-incompetent coaches would be good, like most of the B1G has done in basketball now.

Also, the hoops success might be the problem with hockey $$. I know that as a student from 05-09 I had season football and hockey tickets. I went to one basketball game in 4 years. Amaker used to pay for the student tickets. Basketball is now a hot ticket. There may not be enough $$ (at least student $$) to cover season tickets for all 3 sports.

Team 101

October 20th, 2015 at 12:49 PM ^

The recent basketball success has something to do with the reduced student attendance for hockey as I assume the lack of recent success in hockey has.  In the 12-13 season the price of student hockey tickets was raised to over $200 for the season and I think some students had enough and moved to the Maize Rage. They also put in a GA for student hockey tickets.  They since lowered the prices but it takes more effort to bring students back after they left than it is to keep them.

Other problems.  The student section is interrupted by the band, the visiting parents and non-students behind the bench which takes away from some of the intensity.  The renovations also brought a huge handicap section in front of the students leaving only a handful of students with seats against the glass.  The band is also doing some stuff to distract and perform over the students which impacts some of the intensity of the cheering from the COY.

gwkrlghl

October 20th, 2015 at 1:07 PM ^

Hockey was on the upswing in the early ninties and basketball was peaking. Basketball got slammed with sanctions just as hockey was peaking so I imagine there was an exodus from Crisler over to Yost around then.

Since then, the hockey team has been gradually declining since the #1 year in 2008 right as Beilein was getting the basketball team back in shape. Hopefully we can nip this one in the bud and hire Mel next year and keep Yost alive. A bad hire will empty out Yost for X years.

South Bend Wolverine

October 20th, 2015 at 1:03 PM ^

The basketball point does carry some weight, I think.  You & I had a lot of overlap (04-08 for me), and not only did I never go to a Michigan basketball game, I don't remember ever hearing a friend say "I'm going down to the basketball game tonight" or anything like that.  I watched a couple games on TV just by happenstance, but that was it.  It just wasn't a central part of campus culture in those days like it is now.  By contrast, I knew a bunch of people who went to hockey games.  Combine the rise in b-ball with a dip in hockey's fortunes & price increases, and it's not too hard to see.  Plus, while nice in some ways, the Yost renovations did definitely take some of the old character out of the building.

As for this year's team, I only was able to listen on the radio, but my initial impression is similar to Brian's.  Sounds a lot like last year's team, which means bubble team, likely needing to win the B10 tourney to get a bid - but the B10 is weak enough that that's a realistic goal.

justingoblue

October 20th, 2015 at 12:49 PM ^

Alumni Field (and Yost, Crisler, Michigan Stadium) concessions are more expensive than concessions at Disney World. That gets more justifiable as you move to the right of that list, but to be pleasently surprised at the price of a bottle of water at Disney because of your experience watching amateur athletics is something else.

gwkrlghl

October 20th, 2015 at 1:01 PM ^

  • Lots of offense
  • Defense that periodically makes you want to punch a hole in the wall
  • Michigan has a nice record and a terrific offense and manages to just miss the tournament for the 4th straight year

Hopefully Red enjoys his last year here and we can hire Mel for next year

South Bend Wolverine

October 20th, 2015 at 1:09 PM ^

Amen regarding Mel.  It's not exactly "Operation Unicorn" all over again, but I hope Hackett is already gearing up some of that same magic to bring Mel back to Michigan where he belongs.  Pushing him out was one of Brandon's biggest blunders, and if Hackett can rectify this one too, it will just add to the legend.

matty blue

October 20th, 2015 at 1:03 PM ^

...okay, i've been around here for a long time.  i don't do much forum stuff but have probably read every front-page article since...well, since forever.  and i should know this, but can someone tell me the origin of the 'special k' name?  did one of brandon's nitwits refer to himself thusly at some point, and it stuck, or is is something even more obvious and i'm blanking on it?

 

skurnie

October 20th, 2015 at 1:10 PM ^

Pricing at Yost is infuriating. But if you think Yost is expensive, the prices (if I remember correctly) are the exact same as they are at the Soccer Stadium. They need serious attention. 

Alton

October 20th, 2015 at 1:23 PM ^

That's pretty strange.  Is it possible that it's Sodexo (or however you spell that) who is setting the prices, rather than Michigan?  And possibly they are pricing things to keep business down to the level they want to see, rather than to keep Michigan's customers happy?

In other words, they paid big money for the Michigan Stadium contract, and possibly see all of the other sports that came with it as a burden rather than a business opportunity.

 

skurnie

October 20th, 2015 at 2:29 PM ^

I'm guessing that's 100% correct. There are only 5-6 home football games so I'm guessing they use non-revenue sports for extra income throughout the year. I guess the other benefits include (for them) signage and easy accounting if everything is the same price all over. Popcorn, for example, is $5 at football, hockey and soccer (at least...can't remember bball now). It's frustrating.

SyracuseWolvrine

October 20th, 2015 at 2:40 PM ^

Sodexo took over running the employee cafeteria where I work.  As soon as they came in, food prices rose about $2 per item, with no appreciable increase in quality or quantity.  Doesn't surprise me at all that they jacked up the prices when they took over UM Athletics.

Blue in PA

October 20th, 2015 at 1:35 PM ^

'Hurst is local for me, what coach Gotkin has done with that program is phenominal.  They enroll about 4,000 students, smaller than several high schools.

'Hurst was div. III when he took over 28 years ago.  He is the only coach in NCAA history to take a team to the NCAA Tournament at all three levels, Div. III, Div. II and Div. I.

 

He gets a LOT out of much less talent than most.  Don't let last year's .500 record in Atlantic fool you.  They lost in the championship game to RIT.  

 

 

 

cheesheadwolverine

October 20th, 2015 at 1:57 PM ^

Students down to two sections is mind blowing for this 2011 graduate. It was only a few years ago that I was a student and we were upset if the entire East side that we were allotted wasn't packed.

But I wonder how much of this has to do with the rise of basketball. For students in the Pre-Lein Era, hockey was the default second sport. Now basketball is drawing off the limited pool of students who will buy season tickets to anything other than football.

Edit: missed the thread about this above. 

SI_Grad

October 20th, 2015 at 1:56 PM ^

I dropped our season tickets thanks to Special K, corporate invasion, and odd puck drop times/scheduling in general.  $700 for two seats plus whatever the consessions could milk out of me was too much.  While puck drop times are better this year from the looks of it, I can still remember 1/2 full Yost with 6:30 pm Friday night start times.  Thanks Big Ten Network!

Team 101

October 20th, 2015 at 2:01 PM ^

There were only two sections of students on Sunday afternoon but that isn't normal.  The band is Section 15 and students are also in Sections 14, 16, 17, 18 (above the visiting parents) and 19 (row 10 and above).  It is fall study break and I'm sure a lot of the students left town after the you know what.

It still isn't like it was.

trueblueintexas

October 20th, 2015 at 2:33 PM ^

Is anyone surprised by this? I appreciate the idea of high hopes and all, but the last couple of years (not just last year) should have been clear indication of what this team would be. 

jg2112

October 20th, 2015 at 3:12 PM ^

This is what happens when you allow a coach to decide when he's leaving. Red is great and all, he's done much for the program, but the things I've seen and read about Michigan hockey problems for years now are because of bad coaching.

The idea that such high level talent can come through this program and it misses the NCAA tourney is really beyond the pale. That is the result of bad coaching.

Team 101

October 20th, 2015 at 3:43 PM ^

I was at Michigan right before Red came to Michigan and Michigan Hockey back then was on life support.  Everything that is Michigan Hockey in the last 30 years is because Red came back to Ann Arbor and without him we probably would have to go to the Bentley Historical Library to see Michigan Hockey and Yost would have been converted into a volleyball court or gymnastics building.

I'm not happy that we missed out on the tourney the last three years but short of Red doing something like Woody or JoePa, I am OK with him setting the date for his departure.