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By Tim — June 10th, 2011 at 5:44 PM — 35 comments

Brian already put up a placeholder post, but here's the whole deal. OH DE Tom Strobel has committed to Michigan. I was even beaten by a local paper ("smh," as the kids are saying these days):

"Like most people in Ohio, I was raised with a biased opinion against Michigan. However, it occurred to me that there was no justification for my prejudice, besides the fact that it was Michigan. I think it says something that despite my apprehension, Michigan still stood out above the rest. I am confident that I have made the right decision for my future, and I look forward to beginning my college career as a Wolverine."

Here we go:

GURU RATINGS

Scout Rivals ESPN 24/7 Sports
4*, #24 DE,
#211 Ovr
4*, 5.8, #36 DE
#231 Ovr
3*, 78,
#56 DE
4*, 93, #14 WDE,
#8 Ohio, #169 Ovr

ESPN is the outlier as far as Tom's quality as a player goes. While he's a solid 4-star to each of the other sites, the Worldwide Leader has him listed as a "meh" 3-star - though he's not far from four. As size goes, he's a consensus 6-6, with weights ranging from 240 (24/7 Sports) to 250 (Scout and ESPN).

Now that ESPN has some player evaluations up, we'll start there:

He is a tall kid with solid bulk and he displays the room to add more good size with time in a college weight program. He gets off the ball well. For a taller kid he displays the ability to play with some bend and keep solid pad level. He uses his hands and reach well to take on blockers and keep some separation. He displays good upper body strength to not only keep blockers from getting into him but to also shed. He is a solid wrap-up tackler.

He's listed as "tough against the run," but needing work becoming more effective playing the pass (though he can bat down the occasional ball). To me, that sounds more like a strongside end, rather than a weakside guy, but what do I know? On a similar note, Bucknuts has considered him as a 3-tech tackle:

Strobel is one I am having trouble with. I have no doubt about his talent. He was at one time a top ten kid on my list. What I am having trouble with is Strobel being a three-technique tackle. I have not seen him up close so I will defer to those who have, including the Buckeye staff which has offered him as a tackle.

If Ohio State's offer for him was indeed at tackle, than he certainly has plenty of room to grow, and it remains to be seen what position he'll play. He was the subject of a Sam Webb column in the Detroit News earlier this spring:

"The first thing that sticks out about him is that he passes the eye test easily," said [Scout Ohio Analyst] Greene. "He is a true 6-6, with long arms, and probably weighs 240 pounds. He could probably carry another 30-35 pounds easily on that frame. I think he has the chance to maybe be great someday. I think he's a guy who is kind of growing into his body right now. He is just 17 years old and has got another year of high school left. I think his best football is three to four years ahead of us."

That speak to his upside down the road, rather than the idea that he's some sort of finished product. Of course, that means he could be a low-floor, high-ceiling, boom-or-bust type, as well. Greene does say that in a non-crazy year, he'd be the best DE in Ohio. Strobel himself speaks on his game:

"I've got a really good work ethic," Strobel stated. "I'm always hustling to the ball no matter what. Even if it seems the play is already made, I'm always going to be there right behind the tackle or I'll be making the tackle. I'm always hustling to the ball. I think that's the biggest thing you'll notice -- hustle."

Sounds like a gritty grit gritterstein, and a hard worker who can be an asset to any program. From a Scout article ($):

Strobel, 6-foot-6, 240-pounds, certainly passes the look test with flying colors. Strobel stood out for Mentor as an intense, big, physical athlete, and one who plays with a high motor, never taking plays off.

TomStrobel-Hoops.pngThat confirms Strobel's own evaluation of his motor, and "passing the look test" generally equates with either a finished product, or a guy who has the frame to fill out well for the next level. Since it sounds like he's not polished yet, assume the latter. He definitely has the athleticism to dunk the basketball (and block fools, as pictured at right). He's also tough enough that he played through a cracked trachea(!) in a game last year.

He's an Army Game selection.

OFFERS

He was considered an Ohio State lock as recently as March, and held a Buckeye offer (joining MI LB James Ross MI CB Terry Richardson as players on Michigan's commit list with that distinction). For an Ohio prospect - particularly this long before signing day, that is a Big Deal.

Aside from MAC teams, he also held offers from Stanford and Vanderbilt, the entire Big Ten - there are conflicting reports on whether he'd earned one from Penn State - and some of the higher-end Big East teams (West Virginia, Cincinnati, Syracuse, et al.) Another big name on his list is the Fighting Irish of Notre Dame.

Though he didn't have many non-regional offers, his offer list within the region is about as good as it can get. In fact, it is as good as it can get.

STATS

The Scout profile has sophomore and junior stats:

As a sophomore, Strobel made 47 tackles including 10 for a loss and seven sacks.

As a junior, Strobel recorded 37 tackles including five for a loss and two sacks. He also recovered two fumbles.

ESPN points out that his junior stats were enough to earn him a Third-Team All-State selection, and he was first-team all-area. He missed a couple games with the aforementioned trachea injury.

strobelrecovery.jpg

FAKE 40 TIME

Rivals lists Tom with a 4.8-second 40-yard dash time, while 24/7 Sports says 4.90. For a guy whose pass-rushing abilities are dogged in evaluations, but seems to otherwise be an excellent athlete, that doesn't sound too bad. A mere two FAKEs out of five.

VIDEO

The official Mentor account has his Youtube highlights:

24/7 Sports also provides a highlight reel. MSR Ohio highlight.

PREDICTION BASED ON FLIMSY EVIDENCE

Strobel sounds like a guy who can be a big asset down the road, but isn't likely to contribute as a true freshman. Luckily, Brady Hoke has a defensive end obsession, and there will be plenty of guys ahead of him, allowing for a redshirt.

On that note, the defensive ends in Strobel's own class, and the classes in front of him, might make it difficult for him to see the field early on, unless (as predicted by Bucknuts and/or Ohio State's coaching staff) he's a 3-tech tackle in college. SOMEBODY in Michigan's class is going to have to move inside.

Strobel seems like the sort of guy who will burst onto the scene as a redshirt junior or senior, and turn in a surprising All-Big Ten campaign (maybe not first-team, but earning recognition nonetheless).

UPSHOT FOR THE REST OF THE CLASS

Dude, I have no idea. There are thousands of defensive ends on the roster and in this class, and Michigan is in good position for at least a couple more, including Chris Wormley. Somebody is going to have to move. I could see it being Strobel, maybe Matt Godin, or maybe even Wormley, should he end up in this class. Whether any of these guys could be offensive linemen remains to be seen.

At the end of the day, Michigan still needs a nose tackle-type (hopefully MO DT Ondre Pipkins), and sort out positions for all these other guys down the road. With the way this class is being filled out, I don't think it's possible for Hoke and Co. to fit in some of the positions we've been calling "optional," such as quarterback and running back. Without further attrition, there are 2 spots left in the class.

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June 10th, 2011 at 5:51 PM | Today is most certainly a (Score:1)
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Today is most certainly a Friday of Fridays ..... Two 4* kids going blue.......HAIL TO THEVICTORS!

fomerly known as "hailtothe"

hailing from Evansville, IN...

To hell with Notre Dame.
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June 10th, 2011 at 5:52 PM | Strobel is a hell of a (Score:2)
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Strobel is a hell of a player. I'm anxIous to see if we take one or two more DEs in this class.

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June 10th, 2011 at 6:05 PM | I predict Pittman....and (Score:1)
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I predict Pittman....and soon! Almost has too if he wants to beat Wormley

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June 10th, 2011 at 6:25 PM | I'm going to reach out on a (Score:1)
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I'm going to reach out on a limb and say no.  We need a WR for depth after this class graduates.  We need two true DT's at least.  We need at least one more OL.  Take a look at the depth chart and see how many DE's we already have.  And to say we're going to put a bunch of these 6-6 kids down to the 3 tech that seems a little aggressive.  Assuming they even put on the weight, you need leverage in the interior D Line, so I doubt we'll see them there.  We've got what, 5 spots left if we don't extend fifth years to Floyd, Robinson, and Cox? 

Sorry, but not sure how we can justify another DE.

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June 10th, 2011 at 6:40 PM | With normal attrition (Score:2 Normal)
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we'll have an extra 3-5 spots by next February.  All this anxiety over spots will seem pointless in 9 months. Nothing to worry about.

T

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June 10th, 2011 at 7:15 PM | wormley (Score:1)
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is coming?

History is written by the victors-Winston Churchill
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June 10th, 2011 at 5:54 PM | Welcome Tom! (Score:2 Insightful)
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You've made a great choice

The rest of the B1G: all of you DEs are belong to us

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June 10th, 2011 at 5:55 PM | Welcome Tom (Score:2)
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Mentor rocks scarlet & grey, so we're looking forward to seeing you in BLUE!

Welcome to Michigan. . . . .

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June 10th, 2011 at 5:55 PM | Strobel's quote (Score:4 Normal)
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Quote of the century right there.

"[T]here were a lot of people predicting glorious heights for Rich; mostly the same people who are predicting doom and gloom [for Hoke]. Excuse me if I doubt their prognostication skills." -- M-Wolverine

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June 10th, 2011 at 6:39 PM | "Like most people in Ohio, I (Score:2 Normal)
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"Like most people in Ohio, I was raised with a biased opinion against Michigan. However, it occurred to me that there was no justification for my prejudice . . . "

The light is starting to come on for these top OH recriuts. 

Thank you Mr Tressel and Mr Pryor - XOXOXO.

 

M'Dog

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June 10th, 2011 at 6:55 PM | So much for not being able (Score:0 Flamebait)
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To get anyone to commit who Ohio State wanted out of Ohio....

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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June 10th, 2011 at 5:56 PM | I'm gonna say (Score:-1 Overrated)
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Tom does well with the ladies.

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June 10th, 2011 at 5:56 PM | this is a good day... (Score:1)
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...so far. and hopefully it will continue with the uniforms?

"This is an elite job, and will continue to be an elite job. This is Michigan ferodsakes!"

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June 10th, 2011 at 6:15 PM | Welcome to the family, Tom!  (Score:2)
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Welcome to the family, Tom!  Michigan makes a great first impression even on those not ready for it.

Denard has spent the offseason working really hard and smiling at people.

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June 10th, 2011 at 6:25 PM | Tim underestimates.. (Score:2 Normal)
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...the number of spots.  

At minimum, I see 21, and up to 25 depending on future events.  That means at least five spots remaining. I think my assessment bears out considering how Hoke and company are recruiting...they are not recruiting like there are only 2 spots left. 

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June 10th, 2011 at 6:45 PM | We'll sign 28 (Score:0 Flamebait)
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There will be attrition between now and Feb and few seniors will be granted fifth years. There's also a good chance someone in the 2011 class doesn't make it to Ann arbor

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June 10th, 2011 at 6:30 PM | I never comment on recruit posts, (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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But -- this guy looks like a definite beast, and I'm glad we got him.  Where's he gonna play though?  Is he going to get too big to play LB?

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June 10th, 2011 at 6:40 PM | What? (Score:2)
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Reread.

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June 10th, 2011 at 6:48 PM | Reread (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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I just see him as a linebacker, not a DL or OL -- why, I don't know.  (And that's why I don't coach or evaluate football players).

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June 10th, 2011 at 6:34 PM | Just got home from work, (Score:2 Funny)
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Just got home from work, poured a drink and enjoyed it while reading a "Hello post".  It was so good I think I'll have another and read another Hello post.  If Hoke and co. keep this up I'll have a serious hangover.....

Congrats to both. 

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June 10th, 2011 at 6:43 PM | Absolutely knows... (Score:3 Normal)
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...how to set the tone with the fanbase. Smart kid.

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June 11th, 2011 at 10:27 AM | yeah (Score:1)
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Also probably book smart with those Stanford and Vandy offers.

To me he seems similar to Van Bergen, a strongside DE unless a shortage at weakside DE or 3-tech forces him to move. Good pickup in any case.

 

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June 10th, 2011 at 6:55 PM | Food (Score:3 Normal)
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Remember his quote to TVH about wanting to check out each team's food?  Guess our grub passed the test, LOLz.

GO BLUE!

All In Worldwide

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June 10th, 2011 at 7:03 PM | (Score:1)
vegasmaize
Joined: 09/19/2009
MGoPoints: 138

good food won me over

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June 10th, 2011 at 7:06 PM | I'm confused. What do these (Score:2)
fat_wilhelm
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Joined: 12/26/2009
MGoPoints: 100

I'm confused. What do these "Hello" posts have to do with uniforms?

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June 10th, 2011 at 7:13 PM | Offical Lock Threads. (Score:3 Funny)
GunnersApe
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Joined: 11/19/2009
MGoPoints: 3926

MSU:

http://michiganstate.247sports.com/Board/93/Hoke-is-a-god-2631803/1 

 

AgainAnd Again, Friday Primates.

 funny frog gif animation

 

 

 

Deserve's got nothin' to do with it.

 

 

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June 10th, 2011 at 8:14 PM | Woot (Score:1)
BlueMars24
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Joined: 03/28/2011
MGoPoints: 127

Welcome Tom. Great News.

Those who stay will be champions

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June 10th, 2011 at 9:18 PM | Coaches (Score:1)
ILL_Legel
Joined: 08/13/2010
MGoPoints: 755

The coaches execution of recruiting continues to amaze me.  These guys are ridiculously good.  It's not as easy as they are making it look.

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June 10th, 2011 at 9:27 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
Rabbit21
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Joined: 11/12/2009
MGoPoints: 1304

Not at all, which is why I think they're going for the blowout now in terms of commits so they can shift emphasis during the season to 2013 and maintaining their hold on the commits. Hopefully this will make their job easier in the long run.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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June 10th, 2011 at 9:26 PM | Hopefully we can get (Score:1)
big10football
Joined: 01/03/2009
MGoPoints: 699

Hopefully we can get Washington on campus soon. He, Pipkins/Jones and Wilson would round out this defensive class nicely. Thenwe can  turn exclusively to offense.

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June 10th, 2011 at 9:28 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
Rabbit21
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Joined: 11/12/2009
MGoPoints: 1304

Lest I forget welcome aboard Tom! Happy to have you join the long Maize line.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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June 10th, 2011 at 11:52 PM | So, I don't know if it adds (Score:2 Normal)
ryebreadboy
Joined: 12/02/2010
MGoPoints: 1136

So, I don't know if it adds anything or not, but Strobel is friends with Kalis and plans to discuss the decision with him (although he says "it's his decision"). Having a Blue friend in his ear can only help if and when the hammer hits OSU.

I got that from a paywalled Scout article here.

Denard has spent the offseason working really hard and smiling at people.

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June 11th, 2011 at 7:50 PM | Good old Mentor, OH (Score:1)
BlueDragon
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Joined: 11/14/2010
MGoPoints: 14156

Good place to live, close to the beach, lot of shopping in the area.  Plus Cleveland's nearby.

Land of the free market

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June 12th, 2011 at 9:52 AM | This is fantastic. (Score:1 Normal)
ND Sux
Joined: 10/01/2009
MGoPoints: 2567

For this kid to grow up a big Buck fan and be open minded enough to choose blue, well that's maturity.  Obviously OSU's current woes play in, but put yourself in his shoes...could you ever have chosen Ohio State? 

Welcome aboard, Tom.  You won't regret it. 

"Michigan defense is just...dominating everything, and every aspect of life." Craig Roh

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