Well... this one caught me by surprise. The Wolverine is reporting that OH CB Tamani Carter (a recent commit to Minnesota) has switched his commitment to the Wolverines. Carter hails from Pickerington Central, the Columbus suburb that gave us the likes of Justin Boren (who attended North).
|3*, #104 CB||3*, 5.5, NR CB||2*, 74, #151 CB|
The recruiting sites are in sliiiight disagreement on his height, with the majority coming to a consensus of about 5-11. All three sites list his weight as 175 pounds. We'll start with ESPN's evaluation:
Carter is a quick-footed skill prospect with very good athleticism... On defense, he transitions and closes the cushion quickly. Shows good underneath burst jumping routes in zone schemes... Has good extension, timing and leaping skills making him a very effective defender on the jump-ball. While fluid with good footwork, we do feel like he will be challenged in man-to-man coverage at the major college level. Appears quicker than fast and lacks great explosiveness and top-end speed needed to recover vertically. May struggle to press and set the edge on run support until he builds up his upper-body... Overall, Carter is a fluid athlete with great ball skills. Lacks game-changing attributes when projecting for major college level but will add good versatility and athleticism to a future roster.
They also evaluate him as a slot receiver on offense, but believe me, Michigan doesn't need more of those. Their overall evaluation seems to be "solid, BCS-level talent, but not a difference-maker at the BCS level." This is an odd evaluation considering their rankings of "hey, maybe this guy can play D-1 football." I imagine the lower end of their rankings are still being updated (the new 150 came out yesterday).
Scout has comments from the kid himself:
“I cover really well. I have great hips and closing speed. I also play offense and I’m very explosive. I want to improve my speed. And I’m still working on my feet. Overall, I’d like to get bigger and stronger.”
That's right in line with ESPN's evaluation, right down to saying he's quicker than he is fast.
Tamani also has his own website, praising mostly his work ethic, intensity, and academics. It also clips a few reviews of his game:
He's quick, changes directions well and showed good ball skills, making the breaks without drawing interference... He's a guy who we may have underrated some...
Carter may be one to watch in the future.
Yay for that. GopherHole's interview states that he also runs track.
Carter was committed to Minnesota before switching to Michigan, so he obviously held an offer from Jerry Kill's Gophers. Rivals also lists Air Force, Arizona, Iowa, Kent State, Stanford, and 1-AA Youngstown State.
A couple schools on that list (most notably Iowa and Stanford) have a recent history of developing under-the-radar prospects into stars, particularly in the defensive backfield in Iowa's case.
Scout has senior stats:
Tamani Carter finished his senior season (11-1) with 55 tackles and three interceptions. Two of those were returned for touchdowns (one of 96 yards and the other for 34 yards). He also caught 25 balls for over 300 yards.
Those are solid numbers, but it's hard to evaluate the stats of high school defensive backs, since there is such a wide variety of offenses faced.
ESPN says he had 5 picks, including one returned for a touchdown, as a junior.
FAKE 40 TIME
Rivals and Scout both list him with a precise 4.48 40-yard dash time. That's quite good, but not exceptional, for a defensive back. Considering the book on Carter (very quick) and the level of agreement between the sites, I'm forced to give a mere one FAKE out of five.
PREDICTION BASED ON FLIMSY EVIDENCE
Michigan started several freshman defensive backs last season, and Carter's scouting reports say that he needs to bulk up before being ready to contribute at the next level. That screams "redshirt," and I think that's a likely outcome for Carter's freshman year.
Even as a redshirt freshman, I think Michigan has enough athletic guys that even time on special teams will be hard to come by. As a redshirt sophomore, however, he might start getting serious special teams time, and as a redshirt junior and redshirt senior, he should work into the rotation on defense.
He's a solid player who will probably never be a star, but rather a role player.
UPSHOT FOR THE REST OF THE CLASS
As Tom tweeted, this is an odd commitment, considering Michigan has multiple DBs visiting in the next couple weeks. Those guys are more ready to contribute immediately, and unlike Carter, are not similar body types to several of Michigan's DBs already on the roster (Terrence Talbott and Courtney Avery are both average-to-small corners that are pretty thin).
This likely means that Michigan only feels good about their chances with, say, one of those defensive backs, and that somebody we haven't been expecting to play safety - either somebody on the roster (Cullen Christian) or a commit (Greg Brown) - will do so. Remaining DB commits in this class are likely to be looked at for safety as well.
Is this guy big enough to play safety? Let's keep the defensive commits coming.
let the google-stalking begin!
some snake oil!
Tamani has his own website...
It's no qbforce, but its got a little bit of info about our newest Wolverine
was frankly way more informative than your post Tim. You could have at least included what position and which school in your post (Yes, I am aware of a little site called Google, just holding you to the same standard you hold others to when posting).
I'm sure this isn't complete just yet.
Hey WolvinLA2 I believe you were still hopeful for Tanner McEvoy recently. Just an update. He's expected to committ to South Carolina later today. Sucks.
Thanks for the update.
In response to your pre-edit post - that is dumb. Everyone knows you keep the weed in your apartment somewhere.
My conscience got to me about airing his dirty laundry so I edited it out. But yeah what a dumbass.
Of the recruiting patience award for January 20, 2011. I could see your point if there was a "No" preceding the blockquote, but that's not the case.
Informative update forthcoming.
Tim is really busy writing Hello posts for guys like Kris Frost, Darian Cooper, Stefan McClure, Frank Clark, Aundrey Walker, and maybe Lamar Dawson. He is also trying to catch up on random prospects that are now appearing out of thin air. Mattison went straight to the recruiting trail and brought a case of Snake Oil.
The Fog of War is very dense right now.
LOL, Tim wrote 2 informative sentences and made you wait all of 30 minutes while he typed up the rest.
Methinks, you should have waited for a more opportune time to grind your axe.
You're just upset that you still need to change your username
Our first Hokemaniac! Welcome.
Love getting another DB. Hope we get Floyd Raven, too. Carter is clearly a safety. I believe Raven will be, also (6'2''!?). We could use two safeties, definitely.
That gives us Countess, Brown, and Hollowell for CBs - which we need, too.
If his play is as intimidating as his website's music, I'm hopeful for his future.
Hoke's First commit is a DB from Ohio. We seem to have a good track record with those guys.
Hoke's good reputation in Ohio is going to be a big benefit for the program. Let's hope the payoff continues in the next 2 weeks!
not recently. See Turner, Justin
That's been a problem for a long time now, seemingly ever since Sweater-vest came in. I remember from the Maple Street Press preview a long article about how Michigan recruiting almost gave up on Ohio under Lloyd. It's going to take time to rebuild those relationships as well as enough of a rep in Ohio to get those guys again.
was he being recruited by SDSU?
I'll believe it when I see it.*
This is like if Amani Toomer had a baby, and meanwhile Anthony Carter had a baby. And by some mircale those babies met, and fucked - this is the guy they'd birth.
If only he was a WR.
and I'M the one with the restraining orders.
+1 for the pineapple express reference.
I'm disturbed by this.
Cronologically this doesn't work. Just saying.
that this is what their baby would look like:
Apparently a very cute girl. I'm at a loss.
and I missed the chance to see coach Hoke. Pickerington Central is traitor Justin Boren's high school.
if a comment like this one (that I negged taking it to -2) ends up getting four posbangs.
Edit : Have at it and neg away at mine. No worries.
It's so nice to watch a DB who actually closes on a receiver and makes a hit. I'd like to see more fundamentally sound tackling, but he looks like he's going to be a solid player. Dynamic eye for the ball.
Congrats Tamani, and Go Blue!!
from his website makes him my new most favorite recruit: "Breaking up pass patterns and WR routes like a blow torch on butter"
Tamani Hall forever!
19th century new york political reference - anyone?
As a History major I approve (and get the reference).
That's Zach and Jacoby Boren's high school. Not Justin's high school (Pickerington North). Zach was pulled out of North, and enrolled at Central by psycho-dad Mike. (Remind anybody of anything?)
It might be fun to get Tamani Carter on campus and get some Boren "family values" stories.
With so many DB's, we might need 2 position coaches for the secondary.
Sam Webb was speculating that the reason we're going after DBs still is because on the roster we actually don't have very many true safeties. We have many hybrid, tweener types due to the 3-3-5 scheme. As far as true free safeties go, we have basically Vinopal. Carvin Johnson and M. Robinson are sort of hybrid types that might be strong safeties if we play a 4-3.
So basically, I think Hoke is recruiting free safeties because right now we only have 1, and he isn't very good at this point, no disrespect.
but I thought Vinopal showed more promise at Free Safety than anyone we've had in recent memory. He shouldn't have been playing as a true freshman, almost no one should. But he is fast, reads the ball in the air well and tackles with authority. He just needs a lot more muscle. Give him some time in the weight room and I think he will be quite good. I think he could be all big ten by his senior year.
hopefully a guy that pans out for the future. I like that Hoke is focusing on DBs that are bigger and not the pint size ones that RR had. Not necessarily saying that the small ones are good, just saying that you usually want bigger DBs with the size of WRs these days.
and also since this was a surprise I will surprise everyone too:
Dude what are you talking about? Do you get all your information from the Freep? This kid is listed at 5' 11" 175. That is big? Who cares how big your corners are they just need to play. Also, C. Christian and T. Talbott are both bigger than this kid and Avery was about the same size. Countess is bigger this year, Hollowell smaller. Yeah RR only brought in tiny db's.
Amazing how bad information continues to get passed along as truth.