i find this extremely interesting
Hello: Shawn Conway
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GBW is reporting Michigan has commit #3, and per Jim Stefani's Twitter feed, it's instate sleeper WR Shawn Conway.
Informative update coming later. Discuss amongst yourselves in the meantime, while you take a look at his highlight.
February 20th, 2010 at 10:15 PM | 
40s
40s
February 20th, 2010 at 10:23 PM |
yes 40 times are useful
yes 40 times are useful
but 4.5 on this guy looks a little too faked. not necessarily "faked" but mistakes made due to human error(hand time, etc.) make it seem so. and ur assuming a little too much if ur gonna say their 40 times are faked the same way. say one coach stops time generally too early. another coach stops time generally too late. u can have the same kid run a 4.4 and a 4.6 compared to his actual 4.5. a 4.4 is a hell of a lot different than 4.6.
Hook 'em Horns
February 20th, 2010 at 10:56 PM |
I didn't see anyone add units
I didn't see anyone add units
I didn't see anyone add units in there...Maybe it's 4.5 sec, 40 3.8yd dash.
February 20th, 2010 at 11:03 PM |
-1 for the longhorns tag
-1 for the longhorns tag
this is a Michigan blog damn it
February 20th, 2010 at 11:13 PM |
thanks asshole
thanks asshole
my names "burntorange wit a lil maize." but really, -1 me because u dont like my name or my spelling. exactly the point of a forum based on sports. worry about names, ignore arguments. rather elitist dont u think? not letting/wanting a longhorn fan with a some love for michigan on ur forum. really good representation of UM fans? i dont think so and i hope u arent.
Hook 'em Horns
February 20th, 2010 at 11:32 PM |
I've been suspicious of you all night...
I've been suspicious of you all night...
But after this comment, I'm pretty sure you're Em0.
No caps, tons of comments on a recruiting topic and the occasional personal insult thrown in for good measure.
This fits EmO's M.O. to a tee.
Flush twice - it's a long way to Columbus.
February 20th, 2010 at 11:42 PM |
should i take that as a complement?
should i take that as a complement?
why would i capitalize shit...its a football blog not english homework. naw one of my friends told me to come post on here, and i love the recruiting process. plus there are some people who i disagree with and i love arguing. apparently they dont like my spelling cuz i went from like 30 points to 3 in about 15 minutes.
Hook 'em Horns
February 21st, 2010 at 2:00 AM |
A compliment?
A compliment?
Not exactly.
For the record, I really don't care if you're EmO or not, just keep it civil.
And just so you know, MGoBlog isn't your average football blog. People come here to get away from the mindless, text message type garbage that's on MLive, CBS and other football blogs.
Plus, this blog covers everything Michigan, not just football. (Thanks Brian, FA, Tim and others.)
Flush twice - it's a long way to Columbus.
February 20th, 2010 at 11:20 PM |
um....ok? -1 for the
um....ok? -1 for the
um....ok? -1 for the un-Michigan related name. This is a Michigan blog damn it.
February 20th, 2010 at 11:47 PM |
The hell
The hell
with Texas!--Bo
AJ Bluefan
February 20th, 2010 at 11:57 PM |
ummmm
ummmm
by "bo" do u mean bo schembechler or did u mean "boo" if u meant "boo" then screw u too. i highly doubt thats a bo quote. seriously can u get past my name(which is burntorange wit a lil MAIZE) and read my points instead?
Hook 'em Horns
February 21st, 2010 at 3:15 AM |
WTF?
WTF?
This guy should be banned.
February 20th, 2010 at 11:48 PM |
I see you weren't
I see you weren't
fazed...
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. ~Dan Birdwell
February 23rd, 2010 at 4:43 PM |
To everyone who worships at
To everyone who worships at
To everyone who worships at the alter of "elite speed," all I have to say in response is: Darius Hayword-Bay.
Cranky, long-time MGoBlogger, prone to shooting his mouth off from time-to-time, missing the days of the neg-bang and a proud member of the "06/30/2008 Club".
February 20th, 2010 at 9:22 PM |
Sleeper
Sleeper
I'm pretty sure it's because Scout and Rivals are slowly trying to rank kids all the way down to 5th grade. So, since he hasn't cracked the Top 300 yet it means that he just wasn't showing the football dedication necessary while also learning how to do long division. The kids obviously need to get their priorities straight.
February 20th, 2010 at 9:33 PM |
Is this to help USC and
Is this to help USC and
Is this to help USC and Kiffin out?
February 20th, 2010 at 10:13 PM |
Agree
Agree
These people must have watched a different video. Did anyone watch the kick return at the end?
I think people just need something to complain about after the basketball game.
February 21st, 2010 at 12:16 AM |
Maybe people are being a bit too negative
Maybe people are being a bit too negative
but the kid certainly looks on the slow side for a D1 receiver. The breakaway speed just isn't there.
What do you mean that the kid "catches everything"? That he had some nice grabs in his HIGHLIGHT video?
February 20th, 2010 at 9:29 PM |
I thought that they weren't
I thought that they weren't
I thought that they weren't going to accept that many early commits due to a smaller class. Oh well, if they think he's good, than he probably is, although I wonder if we will take another wide receiver for 2011, we have 5 coming in this year and so much depth that Gallon can barely play.
February 20th, 2010 at 9:33 PM |
He has the measurables of a
He has the measurables of a
He has the measurables of a DB... so linebacker?
I know from experience dude. If you know what I mean.
February 20th, 2010 at 9:32 PM |
Rule of thumb on sleepers
Rule of thumb on sleepers
The earlier they commit, the more likely it is that they pan out.
Why? Because such an early offer suggests that they are a priority for the staff, whereas the ones that suddenly commit late in the game are probably more of a desperate fill.
February 20th, 2010 at 10:59 PM |
another knock on a kid i know
another knock on a kid i know
another knock on a kid i know nothing about based on 2 difficult football seasons that have hurt me emotionally because i'm an insecure person and i base a lot of my pride on the michigan football team.
February 20th, 2010 at 11:15 PM |
Michigan has 3 commits for
Michigan has 3 commits for
Michigan has 3 commits for 2011, one of which was just named to the first-team at the Army All-American combine. Our last recruiting class was around 12th nationally and 2nd best in the Big Ten. It included top talent like Devin Gardner, Demar Dorsey, Cullen Christian, Marvin Robinson, Austin White, and Jibreel Black. We have three top-100 receivers on the roster currently in Stonum, Stokes, and Gallon, two of which were recruited by Rich Rodriguez.
In summary, you don't know what you're talking about
"I think you are my favorite poster. The polar bear avatar definitely helps." - ShockFX
February 20th, 2010 at 11:23 PM |
something about how i now
something about how i now
something about how i know more about recruiting then the staff of people that get paid to do so and have been doing so for many many years. basically talking out of my ass.
February 20th, 2010 at 11:31 PM |
he could project to play a
he could project to play a
safety to be honest. true ball hawker. cant tell from the film how good he is on defense with his tackling. if u didnt have such a good recruiting class of safeties coming in i would have pinned him as a safety at once. he plays CB in highschool but i dont think hes fast enuf to play CB at a d1 level.
Hook 'em Horns
February 20th, 2010 at 11:44 PM |
possibly... he could just end
possibly... he could just end
possibly... he could just end up a "utility" guy too, if never ends up being a starter-type guy. If he can be used in several areas (likely...special teams) he'll at worst be a decent WR backup and a defensive-convertible guy. I'd want to see some defense out of him first, though.
February 20th, 2010 at 11:30 PM |
You have the right to your
You have the right to your
You have the right to your opinion, but come on, "this program is so stagnant we only get sleepers" is not opinion, it is pure stupidity. You cannot claim that as an opinion because it absolutely is not true.
If you have a problem with this commitment, that's fine. But look at all of the posts you've made in this thread. Almost every one is just yelling at others for having faith in our head coach. Be a little more civil, and maybe then others will be more accepting of your opinion
"I think you are my favorite poster. The polar bear avatar definitely helps." - ShockFX
February 21st, 2010 at 12:59 AM |
Early is exactly the time to take a high quality sleeper.
Early is exactly the time to take a high quality sleeper.
Conelius was offered early and commited early. He rose throughout his recruitment.
This kid was a Cass Tech body. He is not an unknown to the coaching staff.
Yes Michigan is not Texas, and we didn't go to a bowl game...again. The recruit needs a good firm look post signing and in context to the entire class.
February 21st, 2010 at 1:12 AM |
exactly
exactly
take a sleeper now and see how he pans out in his senior year. obviously this kid has some great upside with the big frame, hands, and leaping ability. his intangibles: toughness, winning every jump ball possible are huge upside.ur not gonna find a guy late in the recruiting process who is a sleeper who still can pan out nicely.
Hook 'em Horns
February 20th, 2010 at 9:34 PM |
Some of you worry way too
Some of you worry way too
Some of you worry way too much about stars on a HS junior. He is big athletic, and the coaches think highly of him, what's not too like. I don't give a rats ass what rivals and scout think.
February 20th, 2010 at 9:34 PM |
Red zone
Red zone
I see some jump balls and fades in this kids future. Looks like he could be a good red zone reciever and he has a little bit of shiftyness. Its way too early to be beating the coaches up for sleepers lets wait this out.
Tressel: Pounding kids since April 2010.
February 20th, 2010 at 10:15 PM |
Tacopants has been used in more than just the red zone
Tacopants has been used in more than just the red zone
;)
February 20th, 2010 at 9:39 PM |
welcome
welcome
Shawn:
Welcome to the best years of your life.
We're a fan base desperate for wins.
Show us what you can do!
No radio. Nothing of value.
February 20th, 2010 at 9:59 PM |
yawnn
yawnn
ive given up trying to figure out what this staff is doing. all it does is leads to headaches and gives bouje the chance to neg me.
February 20th, 2010 at 10:04 PM |
I'm okay with this recruit
I'm okay with this recruit
and will be happy if he is truly in the fold and the coaches want him, but how do we know this isn't Travis Williams 2.0? Or Holmes Owunkaife? I suppose if that is the case we will find out in a few days.
February 20th, 2010 at 10:30 PM |
There is no confusion over
There is no confusion over
There is no confusion over whether he has committed.
February 20th, 2010 at 10:11 PM |
Looks good to me
Looks good to me
Is he going to be a 1st round pick? Probably not. But with his height, jumping ability, toughness, and outstanding hands, he could play day one on 3rd downs and in the red zone even with his average wheels.
And there's no way one of the top recievers (i.e. Arnett) will shy away because of this commitment, he's not an obvious threat. You need at least two WR's in each class, this is a nice solid signing and we still have room for the five star.
Giddy up.
February 20th, 2010 at 10:24 PM |
I know where both sides are coming from
I know where both sides are coming from
I can understand where everyone on this board is coming from and I can't decide which side I'm on yet
Side A: The coaches are the Pros at recruiting and obviously they know what's best for the future of Michigan football. They spend countless hours trying to find the best talent in the nation to come and play for the Wolverines. If they offered this kid and accepted his commitment, well obviously he must be good. From looking at the film he has great hands and is pretty good with the jump ball. He's still young and may have his coming out party during his Sr. year and we will see everyone offer him.
Side B: The University of Michigan is one of the most historic college football programs of all time. We should only be accepting commitments from the best recruits in the nation. We have a very limited number of spots this year and they should be reserved for the very best athletes in the nation. The coaches can't afford to be filling up valuable spaces so early in the game. Michigan shouldn't have a ton of 3 star talent and a few 4 star men.
Again, I'm torn between the two camps. I guess I just have to have faith in coach Rod.
February 20th, 2010 at 10:42 PM |
Side B assumes that they know
Side B assumes that they know
Side B assumes that they know this kid is a 3-star talent (at best), which they don't, Especially from a 4 minute highlight video.
The coaches thought this kid was worthy of a committable offer (more rare than it seems at this point in the year, with the number of "offers" out there), so they obviously think he's good enough to play.
February 20th, 2010 at 11:01 PM |
slightly racist comment to
slightly racist comment to
slightly racist comment to further denigrate a 17 year old i know nothing about
February 20th, 2010 at 11:06 PM |
Yeah, white kids are slow and unathletic
Yeah, white kids are slow and unathletic
Yeah, white kids are slow and unathletic
signed,
I routinely +1 myself in memory of em0, may he RIP
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February 20th, 2010 at 11:10 PM |
i will make fun of you for
i will make fun of you for
i will make fun of you for not being clever by being not so clever myself. strange tactic, but that's what i do.
February 20th, 2010 at 11:16 PM |
So...uhhh...what're you drinking tonight?
So...uhhh...what're you drinking tonight?
**slowly walking away from MichMike before lightning strikes him**
February 20th, 2010 at 11:27 PM |
What's
What's
What's your deal tonight, man?
10.44
February 20th, 2010 at 11:34 PM |
something about lent or
something about lent or
something about lent or something. who cares.
February 21st, 2010 at 12:04 AM |
Sounds like
Sounds like
your family has given you up for lent.
February 20th, 2010 at 11:39 PM |
Dude, that's enough!
Dude, that's enough!
Just eat it.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. ~Dan Birdwell
February 20th, 2010 at 10:26 PM |
Can he play MLB?
Can he play MLB?
That is what Michigan desperately needs
"Relax you panic monger" -Megatron
February 20th, 2010 at 10:29 PM |
Forget the tape
Forget the tape
Looking forward to seeing him in person - I live about 1/4 mile from Seaholm. As Stephani mentions, the team has not been that good lately, but they play in the second division of OAA, which is a pretty good football conference. Conway had 11 catches for 217 yards and 3 touchdowns in 5 games last year.
February 20th, 2010 at 10:39 PM |
Just doing some quick math in my head...
Just doing some quick math in my head...
11 catches + 217 yards + 3 TD's + 5 games = They need to throw him the damn ball more often.
Flush twice - it's a long way to Columbus.
I think that we can all agree that any prospect's reported 40 time is fake in an absolute sense. What I mean is, no Conway doesn't run the 40 in 4.5 seconds. But, 40 times are still somewhat useful to try to figure out what prospects are faster than other prospects.
If we can assume (and it's a big assumption) that in general, all 40 times are approximately as fake as any other 40 time, then we can say that a prospect with a 4.5 40 is faster than one with a 4.6 40.
Thus, I think that 40 times can be useful not to tell us absolute speed but relative speed.
As for your earlier posts, yes, you're right that as a DI prospect he should be getting better separation and that does worry me somewhat. Hopefully he can improve on that in the 1.5 years that he has left in high school.