The only thing I understood was "dudes a burner." Sounds awesome though.
Hello: Raymon Taylor
Highland Park's Raymon Taylor made no secret early in the process that he was a Michigan fan, but when an offer from the Wolverines never materialized, he committed to Indiana. He received a Michigan offer in December, and on his official visit this weekend, committed to the Wolverines (per fellow commit Justice Hayes), for the third commitment in the last three days.
|3*, #49 CB||4*, 5.8, #14 Ath||3*, 77, #93 Ath|
The big recruiting sites have a wide, wide range of opinion on how good a player Taylor is, and even what position he'll play. The consensus had been that he's a corner, but running back is an option as well. With Michigan's options at slot receiver, I doubt that's where he's been recruited.
Rivals and ESPN say he's 5-10, while Scout gives him the extra inch at 5-11. They're pretty much in agreement on his weight, ranging from 167 to 175, so I'd say he's right in the 170-pound ballpark. Rivals's numbers (5-10, 167) are over a year old - from last year's Army Combine - so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he's grown a bit.
We'll start the evaluations with ESPN:
He is a feisty, tough prospect that we feel has the most upside to be a cornerback at the next level with experience as a return specialist as well. Is slightly undersized, but plays big. Likes to get up in the face of the DB [sic: they mean WR] and alter routes and releases. He has adequate hips, can mirror most receivers on double moves and shows good body control and balance. Can turn and run with speedy receivers. Shows burst out of his back pedal and shows very good closing quickness when driving on the ball in front of him. Has sound catch up speed and shows good acceleration when the ball is in the air. Has good leaping ability which helps compensate for his lack of ideal height, adjusts well to the ball in the air and has excellent ball skills. Is a playmaker with the ball in his hands and will get his fair share of picks and pass break-ups. Plays with a mean streak and great enthusiasm and is surprisingly effective in run support considering his size. Attacks the line when he reads run, generally wraps up when tackling and rarely misses open field tackles he should make. Has shown he will mix it up. Plays with a good motor and always seems to be around the ball. He shows a little stiffness through the hips when on offense more so that on defense. His size may limit his effectiveness to match-up versus bigger, stronger wide receivers. Taylor is a good prospect overall and his versatility provides value.
Scout gets information from the horse's mouth:
“I’m very aggressive and have great ball skills. I make plays and change games. But I want to get bigger and add more bulk and muscle.”
Despite his lack of size, he's described as a physical player with excellent ability to play the ball in the air. That could mean that bulking up a bit and playing free safety is an option.
As an Indiana decommit, he held a Hoosier offer - and in fact was one of the headliners of their class. According to Scout, he also held offers from Illinois, Pitt, and Iowa - where under-the-radar DBs become All-Americans.
An early commitment prevented him from racking up a huge offer list, but Rivals also credits him with a Wisconsin offer, in addition to Cincinnati and Toledo.
Scout lists his senior stats:
Raymon Taylor finished his senior season (4-3) with 48 tackles and five interceptions. He also played running back and wide receiver had around 1,000 yards and 14 touchdowns on offense.
ESPN also has junior and senior stats:
2010: Rushed for 879 yards and 13 touchdowns. Intercepted five passes. Division IV All-State selection... 2009: Caught 50 passes for 600 yards and six touchdowns. Intercepted seven passes (two returned for touchdowns)...
Yay for Raymon.
FAKE 40 TIME
Scout is the only recruiting site listing a 40 time for Taylor, crediting him with a 4.43. Although he's known as a very athletic defensive back, that's a truly elite time. I'll give it three FAKEs out of five. He's a sprinter as well, with a 6.94 60m dash.
PREDICTION BASED ON FLIMSY EVIDENCE
It's hard to even project a position for Taylor, much less how he'll perform once he gets on the field. With Michigan's recent avalanche of defensive backs, I think there's a good chance he ends up playing safety.
Since that's the case, a redshirt is mandatory, as he's pretty slight no matter what position he'll play, and Michigan now has enough players available to have the luxury of redshirting freshmen in the defensive backfield. After his redshirt year, he'll have a couple years to work into the lineup on special teams - including as a return man, where ESPN notes he has great ability.
By the time he leaves Ann Arbor, Taylor has the athleticism to be an NFL Draft pick and an All-Big Ten player if he's developed properly.
UPSHOT FOR THE REST OF THE CLASS
Michigan needs MOAR DBs apparently. As noted above, I think Taylor could end up playing safety, which is a position of need for the class.
Since the class of 2011 is unlikely to completely fill up, Taylor's commitment isn't going to put a serious crunch on remaining players available. The only focus is filling the remaining positions of need, including the defensive line, quarterback, tight end, and linebacker.
FAT means Fully Automatic Timing. It's starts and stops automatically instead of having someone do it by hand. It takes away the delay that a person has from when they see something to when they move their finger.
For what it's worth he ran a 4.66 at the US Army Combine this year. Now, before people freak out, consider that that this is considered a notoriously slow surface. He was the 5th fastest time there (!!!) and Damiere Byrd, widely considered one of the fastest recruits in the 2010 class, ran a 4.55 there. (For other examples, he outran Glenville speedster Shane Wynn (4.68)).
"Dude's a burner" is a very good way of putting it.
Does this mean we still have a shot with Thomas, Zettel, and Arnett?
Great play at 2:55 - he jams the WR to the ground and then gets back up to hit the QB. He looks like a Big Ten corner.
Looks like the Hokester just tagged Razor Raymon. It's a Royal Rumble weekend!
I was out all morning/afternoon and I come home to find not 1, but 2 commits! Thats what Im talking about. I think there will be a few more commits either tonight or tomorrow. I guess Justice Hayes wasnt messing around on his twitter page when he said recruits were pleased. More recruits are expected to come. Way to do work Brady and company. Go Blue!
Yay recruiting class is coming back to life!
The guy really accelerates. I like how we are creating lots of competition at DB for the future.
What a concept.
Notice how quickly he got ahead of the others in that sprint video. In football it's generally the first few yards that are the most important.
This is preposterous! Everyone whose ever read the Detroit News or Free Press KNOWS Misdemeanor State has a stranglehold on in-state recruiting.
Thank God RT was able to escape Alcatraz (and Bloomington).
Welcome and GO BLUE!
It's nice to be on the positive end of coaching-change fallout for once. This guy should be a good contributor once he bulks up a little.
Raymon,Another top instate kid is on board.GO BLUE!!!
Like RR used to say, you really don't know how good a recruiting class is for 4 or 5 years. Unfortunately for RR he found out in 3 years his classes weren't good enough, at least not good enough for him to keep his job.
Some DB retention from the '09 classes (and the snake oil '08 portion) would have been nice, but I wouldn't say that RichRod was done in by poor recruiting classes. I'd shift my focus to management on the defensive side on the ball, for starters. His first full recruiting class was only in its second year (true sophomore / redshirt freshman) last year.
Related: Next year the naysayers will, oddly, feel justified in taking shots at three different coaches.
* Lousy upperclass talent pool? Look partly at the '07 and '08 (Carr portion) of the recruiting classes.
* Generally lousy talent pool on defense? Look partly at the '09 class on that side. That's on Rodriguez.
* Unmistakable black cloud over the program? That would be RichRod, too. :)
* Poor management on the field? Brady.
Drew Sharp's head must be spinning.
Didn't say RR was done in by poor recruiting classes, I was just relating what RR said on the subject. I agree with RR. While it is nice to spekalate how awesome these guys are gonna be, we really won't know for awhile in most cases
You always tell me to let it go....we have no idea how RR's classes will turn out. All we know is that RR was unable to field an actual defense with Carr's previous 2 classes and he turned his 3 recruiting classes plus D. Molk into what should be one of the best offenses in the country this year.
For the record, I like/liked RR and wish he had gotten a 4th year and said so on this very blog. Again, unfortunately RR classes were not good enough to get him a 4th season, that doesn't mean they are bums. The jury is still out on most of those kids concerning football, as far as overall people, they are great kids and it's been a pleasure getting to know them from this distance.
Welcome to the Maize and Blue family Raymon Taylor!
Justice Hayes did say go blue nation will be pleased. So just maybe Posada stays blue as well. As for the rest, on Monday Mr. Tom VH will shed some more great news.
We are officially one spot ahead of MSUcks on Rivals in team recruiting rankings. Not that it matters that much but would just really like to not be out-recruited by them. I think it would be a testament to our program that we finish higher than despite us going through a coaching change and them winning a B1G championship.
Please don't say MSUcks. Its as stupid as scUM and demeans us all. I do hope we out-recruit them through a coaching change when they've had one of their best seasons of all time.
First time i've ever said it, and it will be the last time. Wasn't sure on the view of that around here so I tried it out, but thank you clarifying. I always laughed when they would make fun of us because we didn't call them a stupid nickname,
Well I guess that means Misdemeanor State is out too
Seconded. "MSUcks" is just as dumb as "scUM"
I understand, the point has been made.
I went through a large part of my life wanting to beat MSU but cheering for them in all their other games, even after "THE VOTE".
Then the website Bitter Rivals came online and I realized how much they hated UM. We focused on Ohio State and MSU focused on us.
After a couple of years of reading the vitriol I was bitter too. I hope we return to dominating them in all sports during my lifetime.
However, when you look at AVERAGE STARS, we're #18--well ahead of tsiel.
as MC of the class. Keep that party rockin, J!
Seriously! Love his enthusiasm.
Welcome to the party pal. Love it. Keep the commitments coming coach.
We are quickly moving from hoping to salvage a decent recruiting class to now wondering just how good it can be? Don't want to get ahead of ourselves, but in two weeks Michigan football has come a long way from what it would have looked like headed into next season.
I like the kinds of guys Hoke is going after -- and landing.
If we can get Stefan McClure, Jake Fisher (again), Tony Posada, Leilon Willingham, Frank Clark and Matt Wile -- and a QB (as in, switch the kid who pledged to BC), a D tackle and Chris Bryant, that is one helluva class and might even finish as a top 25 class (of course,the rankings never turn out to be right four years later). And it would be nice to get a WR, whether it is Hakeem Flowers or someone else. It also sounds like RB Thomas Rawls, who is visiting next weekend, will commit just as soon as U-M offers (Rawls may be an academic question). That would give us in the neighborhood of 19-21 recruits and we're off to a nice start in the Brady Hoke era.
"We gotta kicker"
Great to have him in the class. The more DBs the better.
Based on his 60-meter time, a more realistic 40-yard dash time is 4.55 seconds. Not indicative of anything, but interesting.
Everybody loves Raymon. If we can get guys that will be able to contribute in 2-3 years and keep most of the talent already on the team we should be fine. I want to see us fielding experienced teams as opposed to true and red shirt freshmen.
Seriously! Love his enthusiasm.
My favorite part of his description was:
"Rarely misses open field tackles he should make"
If that were only the case for our defensive backfield for 2010 we wouldn't have a new coach!!!
He is a feisty, tough prospect. . .Plays with a mean streak and great enthusiasm
How close is that to Hoke's projections of what kind of team he's going to lead? Michigan football is on its way back.
So glad we got Raymon. I hope he stays at corner because he's so physical and I like that. If he moves to safety that's alright too. Seems like a great player, hopefully he'll do special things in Ann Arbor.
I'll take 3 stars who want to play here any day. I'm glad BH is going after solid recruits to fill the needs of this class. Many of these kids will become good solid players with the right coaching and development. If BH can pull in some more recruits, may be we won't see that drop off in 3 years and keep good depth, unlike 2009 and 2010.
BOOM, SNAKE OILED.
...about telling the world that Michigan is going to get tougher, run the ball, and play defense. In fact, that IS Michigan football. Anything else, as we have learned with great suffering the last three years, is like mixing (snake) oil and water. Just like the State of Michigan, Michigan Football was built on muscle, not the deception of a gimmick offense that required a once in a decade talent at QB to make it work, an offense that left an under-manned defense on the field far too long. RichRod, my friend, is snake oil. Brady Hoke is meat and potatoes, and maybe a punch in the face for dessert.
Yeah, I hated watching those two "gimmick offenses" in the national championship game.
And I hate how Oregon is never good because they need a once-in-a-decade QB to run their "gimmick offense." Especially when their starting QB is kicked out of school and their backup has to take over to start the season. No way they ever go anywhere with that type of "gimmick offense."
Oh, and Pat White and Denard played in the same decade.
Get a clue or get out.
Is an invitation to leave or get a clue part of the MGoBlog welcome kit? I have read a few of your other posts and generally think you are smart enough not to label someone as clueless merely because you disagree with them. But perhaps the urge was irresistible this time.
It will be another decade before we find another Denard. He is special. If you think that there are plenty of Denards out there, then you must not think he is unique.
And I don't want to tell you how to think, but Auburn just won its first National Championship in fifty years. Not exactly a juggernaut. And Oregon has never won a Rose Bowl, let alone a National Championship, and is 2-6 in its last eight bowl games. This year's BCS title game featured as many turnovers as their were touchdowns: 4. And Oregon only had 75 yards rushing. So I hope you will understand why I do not share your awe at these teams and their offenses.
And Rich Rod's West Virginia teams played in a very weak conference and never finished ranked higher than sixth, while his Michigan teams averaged a 5-7 record.
So why does my questioning the efficacy of Rich Rod's spread (not Auburn's or Oregon's, which are quite different) render me clueless? It doesn't. Neither do my three Big Ten Championship and Rose Bowl Championship rings, M-Club ring or varsity letter.
Wait, wait, wait. You come into a thread to bash Rodriguez's recruiting...
...and part of your argument is that he landed a "once in a decade talent."
I was actually saying that I don't love his offense and that it takes an incredibly rare player to run it.
I jumped into this thread to take exception with the suggestion that Brady Hoke is selling snake oil.
Calling the spread and the spread option a "gimmick offense" is the reason I lashed out. Maybe it was a bit drastic, but it's ridiculous in my mind to call that offense "a gimmick."
A few comments:
- "Auburn one it's first championship in fifty years" - yes... that "gimmick" offense was installed when Chizik and Malzahn came to Auburn in 2009. So... it brought them their first championship in 50 years? I'm not seeing the problem here. If anything that would seem to favor my argument.
- Oregon didn't win the national championship game, but they got there. Yes, they didn't have a great rushing game against the #1 team in the country (there's also the thought that Thomas simply blew a few reads on the zone read which would have gone for large gains), but I'll take an offense that was one of the best in the nation even if it didn't win a national championship with the thought that it could down the line.
- I'd gladly take being ranked #6 running a "gimmick" spread option.
I'm trying to understand the point: The version of the spread option that Rodriguez runs is a "gimmick" but the version that Oregon runs, or the variations on it that Aurbun runs (or Florida for that matter when Meyer and Mullen were tehre) are not gimmicks? Instead of asking you to leave, I'd gladly love to understand how Rodriguez' version is a "gimmick" but these other forms aren't.