I can stop refreshing, welcome Kaleb!
this week in unintentionally grim-sounding recruiting headlines
Though the news has been out since Tuesday thanks to an overzealous Dayton Daily News reporter, OH LB Kaleb Ringer made it official tonight (or will very soon): he wants to be a Wolverine.
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When I first wrote this post a few weeks ago, all four premium sites had Ringer listed at 6-1. Now Rivals and ESPN have downgraded him to 6-0, which is probably the more accurate number. I'll give him a shade under 6-1. Scout and 24/7 Sports (the two who list him at the taller height) say he's 225 pounds, whereas Rivals and ESPN are right around 220.
He may not wow you with the eye test, but put on the film and he's all over the field making plays. He's very solidly built, has a nose for the football and has legitimate sideline to sideline speed. He's also physical and can take on blocks. I have to see more of him in coverage, but he's a kid who could end up leading a team in tackles for several years in college.
They list his strengths as hitting ability, block shedding, and speed, while calling size an "area for improvement," which... dude probably ain't growin' a whole lot more. For the record, UMGoBlog's analysts actually say that his speed is only OK.
Per a local fluff article, he certainly has the attitude for a linebacker:
Ringer often does get a backfield call on goal-line situations, but otherwise creates havoc as a speedy, hard-hitting linebacker... “It’s the only sport that you can beat up somebody and not get in trouble for it,” he said. “I really appreciate that.”
In the same article, the Talbott brothers' former head coach talks about Ringer's abilities:
Wayne coach Jay Minton is sold on Ringer. Minton helped groom former Wayne and OSU standout linebacker Marcus Freeman and sees Ringer as having a similar impact. “If there’s a better (linebacker) in the state, I want to see him,” Minton said. “Whenever they can run out of Ringers is fine by me. There’s a lot of them. It’s got to be really neat for that family to see the success that they’re all having. Kaleb could be one of the best of the bunch.”
"As good as an NFL Draft pick" is pretty high praise (though note those words were the author's, not Minton's).
Ohio recruiting guru Duane Long:
Kaleb Ringer, 6-2, 225, Clayton Northmont. I become more impressed with Ringer as time goes along. I have always been concerned about his size. He was about this same size when he first popped up on the radar screen so I was concerned about him outgrowing the position. We have seen it happen with other top linebacker prospects, most recently with Glenvilles Andre Sturdivant. Ringer is even more athletic than Sturdivant and has that same nose for the ball and for making big plays.
He lists Ringer as the #1 linebacker in the state of Ohio. From another breakdown:
I thought he would outgrow linebacker. He has not done that. Ringer is a classic Mike linebacker. Hashmark to hashmark it is hard to not pick Ringer. He is physical and a physical specimen. He is going to carry another 20 lbs on that frame... I have seen his complete highlight film. Not one play of Ringer in space.
Playing in space (and speed in general) are the main questions on Ringer coming out of high school. I won't accuse Long of changing his tune once it became clear that Ringer would become a Wolverine, but he had this to say earlier in the week:
I think he is slightly overrated because the way the game is played linebackers must be able to cover and I have not seen it out of him but if you want a middle linebacker to run from tackle to tackle and stuff the run then this is an awfully good football player. He committed to Michigan without an offer from the Buckeyes. I did not see a Buckeye linebacker in Ringer but this is definitely an upgrade in talent for Michigan.
Judge for yourself, though it seems to me to be a radical change in a short span.
As a Southwest Ohio guy, it's no surprise to see a Cincinnati offer for Kaleb. Syracuse and West Virginia had also offered, along with a host of MAC schools. In the Big Ten, Illinois and Iowa were his other offers.
Notably absent from that offer list are Ohio State and Michigan State. The Buckeyes told him that his lack of an offer had nothing to do with his ability, which might raise a flag. The Spartans (where is older nephew Javon starred a few years back) may have had similar reasons for not offering.
Posted 35 solo tackles and 50 assists
He was also an occasional running back (primarily on the goal line) and punched in a couple touchdowns on the season.
FAKE 40 TIME
Scout, Rivals, and ESPN are all sorely lacking in 40 times. That means I get to accuse them of being very FAKE indeed, dishing out five out of five. Between his freshman and sophomore years in high school, he ran a 4.85 at a camp, which does not sound FAKE at all (his 4.13 shuttle time was a much more respectable number).
His sophomore highlights are on Youtube, along with an abbreviated junior highlight reel:
PREDICTION BASED ON FLIMSY EVIDENCE
Ringer is a classic middle linebacker, and a perfect example of one difference between the current coaching staff and Rich Rodriguez's staff. He's a big, stocky, smashmouth-type football player, and doesn't have elite speed or the flexibility to project to several different positions. YMRMFSPA some like Jarrett Irons.
With Michigan's linebacker haul in the class of 2010, Kaleb should have the opportunity to redshirt as a freshman. However, starter Kenny Demens will graduate following the 2012 season, and Kaleb will get every opportunity to win the starting position himself. I would assume he doesn't earn that starting position (Desmond Morgan and Kellen Jones will have a year of experience on him), but he'll be a member of the rotation, earning situational playing time and getting plenty of experience in blowouts.
With two years of separation from at least one of the linebackers in the class of 2011 (I assume one or both will see the field instead of redshirting), he should be a solid starter as an upperclassman. He seems to me like the type of guy who can rack up all-conference honors without drawing a ton of interest from the NFL.
UPSHOT FOR THE REST OF THE CLASS
As noted above, Michigan took several linebackers in last year's class. That means they don't need many in 2012, and getting a commitment from a high-profile guy like Ringer means they can focus only on the guys they really want, such as James Ross, Royce Jenkins-Stone, and Joe Bolden. Crazy though it may seem, there's a chance that Michigan will have to say no to one of those guys.
Ringer is the first of many defensive players to commit to the class, joining a pair of offensive linemen. Michigan's main needs for the rest of the class are an elite quarterback, and millions of players on both sides of the line. A couple tight ends and a wide receiver are probably in the cards as well.
I can stop refreshing, welcome Kaleb!
My F5 key was getting worn down as well.
I'm really sxcited for this kid. Msu people are already saying that he is not good enough to get an offer. At least he can now prove those people wrong.
Since when are their standards for recruits so high? "#1 lb in Ohio? I think we'll pass."
That is what pisses me off about sparty. I can understand osu saying something like that, but sparty saying that is pure crap.
We must put sparty in their place this year. I'm getting sick of their crap.
They didn't. They said they were going to, but they never did.
Me thinks Mr. Long is bothered that the kid is heading up north to AA.....kinda sad by a local reporter but again this is Ohio we are talking about.
I'll take any LB who can actually you know stop a LB dead in his tracks...will be a nice change of pace from hitting a RB and waching him carrying our LB's another 3 or 4 yds.
Welcome Kaleb. How nice is it to pull good players from ohio.Great job Coach Hoke and staff.Go Blue.
Agreed. This is great news, Welcome Kaleb!
Welcome to Michigan Kaleb! Now the focus shifts even more to RJS and Ross. Go Blue!
If he plays to his potential, I see Greg Jones.
Seen a couple Sparty fans say the same thing. And they weren't pleased about the fact he was coming here.
But how quickly does that turn into, "he is not worthy of a msu offer." They will have multiple excuses to why they never offered him.
they'll have remembered how much they suck
At no point should the words "he wasn't deserving of an MSU offer" be taken seriously. MSU will send an offer to your dog's chew toy if there is a chance that it can beat UM and then wind up in jail.
This is a direct quote from a friend of mine from MSU. I asked why State hasn't been reeling in any recruits and also asked if Ringer had an offer. His response was "you gotta work for that sparty offer, you gotta be worthy." The conversation was over at that point.
Maybe I'm just being a homer, but I'd rather his full potential be compared to the likes of Irons, Gold, or Foote, and not someone who had to play 4 years to get his 1st INT
Please tell me you don't evaluate linebackers by their INT total
That would be great if he were as good and productive as Jones. His speed and pass-coverage ability are the questions -- I think he's slower than Jones was.
But if he has a chip on his shoulder and wants to prove top rivals wrong by working hard and the toughness to stop inside running he'll fit in.
I like that fact that we know exactly what position he is projected to play. It brings me peace knowing that we have several MLB prospects to compete for the spot in the coming years.
sparty is going to regret not offering Kaleb and who cares what tOSU does? screw them
It could just be that Ringer never showed any interest in MSU, so they never offered. I don't think Kaleb every visited MSU or sent video to the coaching staff, so that could be why he wasn't offered. Usually a player needs to show a little interest to get an offer, and it's likely that once Kaleb got his UM offer he knew he didn't need MSU.
I wish that was the way all recruits acted. I got my Michigan offer so screw the rest.
or is there something behind it? OSU took Josh Perry, with he, Ringer, and Bolden generally recognized as the 3 best LBs in OH. They picked, and I assume will go after one other 'backer from out of state. MSU probably knew he was a M or Iowa lean for a while. What's with the "flag" stuff?
Look at Bolden - PSU and Arkansas offered him literally in the last few days (I believe). Who's to say the same wouldn't be said of Ringer? Perry had almost no offers at all - why would you, when he's clearly going to OSU?
OSU told Bolden they were looking for outside backers this year. OSU is at the point where they can isolate positions of need. Such is their depth. When two of the top three, possibly four instate backers are not offered, I would have to believe there is truth to the fact that OSU's lbing targets are indeed not slanted toward the MIKE position this recruiting season.
Ringer camped at MSU, and went on at least one tour of the campus. He was definitely interested in MSU. I didn't wanna embed, but here's a picture at MSU camp
his top five along with OSU, and was at MSU's camp in 2010 with his Uncle Javon.
It seems to me that with us only taking one or two of the three linebackers left...(RJS, Bolden, Ross) who do you all think will be the one left out? It seems as though it is going to come simply come down to who doesnt pull the trigger as fast as the others.
I think this particular problem will solve itself. All 3 of these guys have multiple offers from big-time schools. At least one is going to choose to go elsewhere, so I doubt it's a matter of pulling the trigger in time.
Is UM even in good shape with Ross and RJS?
To me, Ross always seemed like a very long shot to end up at UM, while RJS has seen his recruitment blow up to a national level and I fear that the "Cass Tech pipeline" principle will not be enough to get him (or Richardson) to commit to UM.
I hope I am being overly pessimistic.
I'd say you're being over pessimistic about RJS...probably right on for Ross, though.
I just met him and he's a really nice kid. He'll represent Michigan well. By the way, his uncle Javon was there. He's a lot bigger than he was in college.
Clarification: is Javon is uncle or nephew?
I've heard both from different sources.
you know this is possible right?
My mom's oldest nephew is a couple year younger than her. My mom's sister is 18 years older so that can explain the age difference.
My aunt had her first child when she is 20 year old(she got married at 18 yr old which is around the same year that my mom was born). Technically my mom's nephew and nieces are my cousins but I call them uncle and aunt. Their children are at around the same age as me.
Javon is Kalen's nephew, per all the local news sources.
In his interview with Sam Webb, he directly referred to Javon as his uncle
...is a Buckeye sloppy. Disregard his BS.
Great to have you Kaleb! It is a good feeling to again have confidence that great defensive players will have a strong desire to play for us. I want to start punching people in the face again.
Ringer is a top class player, definitely a top 10-20 guy in Ohio. And his Blue. That is all I care about.
I live down here in Cbus...and never heard any red flags about Ringer. I assume Hoke has covered his bases. Iowa and Illinois weren't scared away. I think with OSU, they simply made their choice, and with their limited spots, it was just the way things came about.
By the way....Long talked up Bolden a lot too...I am sure he will say he sucks if he commits.
Ohio recruits. Bring them all
I hope you do well on the field and in the classroom. I like getting OH kids! Most seem to play so well for us! I'm sure he cannot wait for the UM vs OSU game. Would love to see him stuff an OSU RB on 4th and goal in the future!
hall of fame prescient posts so: This kid's gonna be a star.
to have a Ringer on your team,as long as the rules permit.
Javon was pretty fun to watch when he wasn't playing us...
What about fullback? Played RB and likes to "beat people up legally"
First off Very happy about the new "Hello", now secondly Im in a tuff spot, I live in Cali and just find out (yesterday) I no longer have the BTN on my plan. I know usually anything of slight interest about Michigan Football makes its way to the internet with a link. However, I've missed all the spring practice episodes, which were on FS Detroit and can't find any links to them, and I don't want to miss the Scrimmage (not just the highlights) on Sat. So...... Is there anyone out there who can assure me with 100% confidence that the Whole Scrimmage will be up online somewhere relatively soon or do I need to call Direct TV tonight and pay a ton to pick it up by tomorrow. Someone help me out, Go Blue!!
Most of the playoff stuff doesn't start till 1 pm. Might be able to snag a tv in the corner.
But if your provider doesn't carry BTN, sounds like you're going to have to make the change by fall anyway.