We're back baby!
the season has truly begun now
Though there's still plenty of time to recruit for the 2012 class, Michigan's coaches are continuing their in-state recruiting dominance into the future. 2013 MI QB Shane Morris has become Michigan's first commit in the sophomore(!) class, he told Tom tonight.
First, the size. The sites (except ESPN, which - big shocker - doesn't have any 2013 prospects in their database) agree he's 6-3, and though 24/7 Sports estimates his weight at 190, Rivals and ESPN are within a pound of each other at 183 and 182, respectively. So, 6-3, 183 it is.
The HALOLs you see above are not due to the presence - or lack - of any particular talent, but rather because the recruiting sites are about a year (almost exactly in Rivals' case) from ranking 2013 prospects. We'll start the evaluations in chronological order, starting with a Detroit National Underclassmen Combine following Morris's freshman year:
Morris, 6'1.5 174, won the 9th grade MVP. He had a 28 inch vertical, 8'7 broad jump, ran a 4.60 shuttle...
QB Shane Morris (Warren, Mich./De La Salle) was in a class of his own. The 6-1, 174-pounder has a sensational arm, great vision, moves his feet well and carries himself like a pro. Talent wise, he is far beyond his age group and already has top-notch abilities.
Prepseer took a 1-game sample size and made it big:
Morris wasn’t the stud quarterback that I expected. It was the first time I’ve seen him. He has a decent arm and he runs the offense well–particularly for a sophomore. I don’t think he’s the Div. 1 lock that many fans are proclaiming. He’s not even the best in the CHSL Central. But, he’s only a sophomore and he will get better.
Though Prepseer is a hilariously biased Michigan State slappy, that report was long before Morris committed, so there's no bias present.
Fortunately, the kid's already been featured in a Sam Webb column. First, Scout's Allen Trieu:
"Shane, for a young kid, has a really great arm," said Scout.com Midwest regional manager Allen Trieu. "I saw him as a freshman and that ball came out of his hand with great spin and velocity then... There's still a ways to go, but he has a lot of talent. He'll be a kid that gets attention from all over, not just the schools within a close proximity."
And his high school coach:
[De La Salle Coach Paul] Verska added: "He makes great decisions with the football, he has a very strong arm, and he is learning and getting better every day. As long as he continues to do that I think great things will keep happening for him."
Sound Mind, Sound Body Foundation's program director weighs in, primarily on how experienced he is for such a young guy:
"He has really been exposed to a lot more than your average 10th grader has," said program director and founder Curtis Blackwell. "He plays in one of the toughest leagues in the state in the Catholic League and he has a great coaching staff at DeLaSalle. At the same time he comes from a very strong family background where his mom is very influential and his dad is a middle school coach that coached him in football. He has had a great foundation. Then since the ninth grade he has been working out and a part of all of our programming here in the inner-city."
So what has Shane gotten out of the SMSB camps?
"I felt like it helped me out tremendously," he said. "It helped me out with my confidence. I feel I am a leader and so I'm going to lead everyone. That's what you're supposed to do as a quarterback, supposed to be the main leader on the field, and that's what I feel like I'm doing with this team."
At the Badgersport 7-on-7 in Pittsburgh, he was named "Best Young Arm:"
Not only was Morris an effective passer over the weekend, but he exudes the confidence and leadership you look for out of the quarterback position.
He also impressed Scout's Scott Kennedy in New Jersey ($):
"[I]t was obvious he had a big arm to go with his frame. He has good mechanics as well, and I was doubly surprised to find out that the biggest kid on the field was only a member of the Class of 2013."
"He reminded me a little of how it was with Gunner Kiel and Zeke Pike at these events last year... Gunner and Zeke are going to be Top 5 quarterbacks this year, and while I’m not ready to say Morris is going to be there next year, he certainly has all of the tools to be."
Morris grew up a Michigan fan and modeled his game after Tom Brady (I'm sure most Michigan fans approve). It's so early that it's tough to know a whole lot about him, but "arm strength," "size," and "potential" are clearly going to be in his corner. Also, he's a lefty, so I'm fully in support (before all you evil righties wipe us out).
Michigan offered Shane on March 28th. He also held offers from Bowling Green, Central Michigan, Cincinnati, Michigan State, Syracuse, and Toledo. If that sounds light on the offers, keep in mind this kid can't sign with a school for almost two years. Waiting to commit would have seen plenty of top schools with pro-style offenses jump into the fray. He had interest but no offers from Stanford and Tennessee.
If you're into Mark Dantonio schadenfreude (and you really should be), there's a story on Rivals's Michigan State affiliate about how Shane is at the top of MSU's list for 2013 ($, info in header).
Rivals provides sophomore numbers in convenient table form:
Passing Year PA PC Yds TD Int 2010 (So.) 180 102 1,150 14 5
Scout says 1139 yards. That's good-not-great, but... dude's a sophomore, and almost certainly a first-year starter. It would be a 130.44 passer efficiency by the NCAA calculation.
FAKE 40 TIME
Rivals is the premium site providing the time, and it's a good one for a pocket passer: 4.63. They also credit him with a 4.6 shuttle time. For a kid who's not expected to be much of a runner in college, that seems a little FAKE, to the tune of three out of five.
There are also 7-on-7 highlights.
PREDICTION BASED ON FLIMSY EVIDENCE
Shane Morris is going to be a really good football player. However, he's got plenty of time to develop into his potential.
When he's a freshman, Denard Robinson will be a senior, and Devin Gardner will be a junior (or redshirt sophomore). Russell Bellomy will be a sophomore (or redshirt junior). With three QBs with at least a year in the system before Morris, he's got a chance to take a redshirt year. Following that redshirt year, Devin Gardner will likely take over for Denard as the starter. Following Devin's graduation (he could even leave school after his redshirt junior year and still graduate), there will be a hot competition between Bellomy and Morris for the job, and I predict Morris will win it.
Let's try this again. When he's a freshman, Devin Gardner will be a senior or redshirt junior. Russell Bellomy will be a junior or redshirt sophomore. With two capable QBs on the roster (and likely another a year ahead in the class of 2012 - see below), Morris will redshirt, then either compete with Bellomy and 2012 Prospect X to take over for a Gardner that leaves early for the NFL, or gets another year of seasoning to do the same with Gardner's swan song in maize-and-blue.
He has NFL size, he has an NFL arm, and he'll be playing in an NFL offense. I think there's no question that Morris is the next in a long line (briefly interrupted) of successful pocket slingers at Michigan. All-American honors are not out of the question, and an NFL future is likely.
UPSHOT FOR THE REST OF THE CLASS
More than what it means for the 2013 class (about which we currently know very little), is what Morris's commitment means for the 2012 class. He probably committed to Michigan with the knowledge that the coaching staff will not pursue a highly-rated passer for next February.
The coaching staff could take a lesser-rated guy, but it almost makes sense - with a numbers crunch already looming in May the year before Signing Day - to not take one at all, opening a slot for other positions. Shane told Tom that the coaches are thinking otherwise, but his commitment certainly opens that door down the road.
We're back baby!
Denard would like to talk to you about your definition of back but...Wwwwoooooo! Awesome for Shane Morris to go blue!
I'm glad the days of raw first-year starters at QB (Navarre, Henne, Threet/Sheridan, Tate/Denard) will be no longer.
Let's not Beano/Paulus him yet. How can you project a sophomore in High School to be an NFL QB?
The alternatives are predicting he's going to suck, or not making a prediction at all. Since it's my job to make the prediction, the latter is off the table, and I'd much rather put my faith in not having to predict the former.
I would have been content with a projection of All-American, but tonight, I'll drink the Kool-Aid. Cheers!!!
To be fair, Navarre and Henne were backup plans who were forced into duty earlier than expected due to unforeseen circumstances (damn yankees, preseason injury) with the presumptive starters.
Hells to the Yeah. Let the Kellen Moore comparisons begin
i was about to say that!
morris has so much better potential than moore. but it will be interesting to see if he can manage the tight game situations like moore does again and again.
different conferences yes, but I think I'd be OK with Moore's production...
All Hail Coach Hoke!!!!
I wonder if Brady Hoke called him at his gf's place.
That obviously means an Ohio QB will commit soon
But it's definitely a QB, right?
This is unreal. Since I have been following recruiting this has been by far the most amazing run I have seen. Congrats Shane and way to go coaching staff.
Hmmm. So what do you all think, do we only go for a blue chip qb this year or none at all? Or if we don't land a blue chip still take a lower rated one? Or none at all?
-Personally, I feel we should go hard after the blue chip prospects, and if we dont' land one, then don't take a QB.
Honestly, there aren't a ton of blue-chip QBs this year and Pike was the only one we appeared to have a legit shot at. I say we grab a lower-rated one, develop him while Denard/Devin finish out their eligibility and have a free-for-all between Bellomy/2012 QB/Morris.
If we don't take a QB this year then we're looking at another year of only 3 QBs and recent history tells us that can be a painful prospect at times.
A preferred walk-on qb as being very likely, a la brian greise (which worked out pretty well).
I was thinking kiel, mauty(sp?), or pike. If not one of those 3, then a preffered walk- on but no scholarship qb.
Well, I think it's going to be the other way around, now that we've secured a good* prospect we can look for a project QB to develop, if we're lucky, we can find the next Tom Brady, if not we have Shane Morris and a more seasoned backup when the time comes
*Good, because I don't want to overhype him, he has the tools to be great
If I remember correctly, it wasn't like Tom Brady was a project QB coming out of high school. He was a highly recruited QB from California, and had many big offers. I am not sure you could compare him to the likes of Bellomy or other QB's that may be considered projects. I would think possibly taking Devin Fuller from NJ, who is listed as an ATH but the staff has said they would give him the chance to play QB, or someone along the lines of Conelius Jones, where we took him to give him the chance to play QB, but would move him if it didn't work. Brady wasn't this type of player, and was a solid QB prospect.
Well maybe I have that perception because i saw the Brady 6 documentary recently, and they said he wasn't a heralded QB coming out of highschool and 5th or 6th string when he arrived to Michigan
They were altering the truth to make for a more interesting story.
I'd go preferred walk-on unless Kiel commits or Pike changes his mind and goes Blue.
Barring major jinxage, I can't see us getting Nick Sheridan'd by a 2012 walk-on because he'd be fourth on a healthy depth chart at all times...right?
Gardner>Bellomy or Morris>walk-on
etc...Denard can be expected to stay for his senior season, Devin likely won't transfer and still could be granted that extra year, and Bellomy knew what he's getting into and would be silly to leave the program.
lol, I agree, it's good to see that leadership this early ^^
And I lost it.
Over/under for the first 2014 commitment. Two weeks.
Denard: Heisman - 2012-2013
Shane: Heisman - 2014-2017
MSU semi-meltdown thread:
The name calling and backstabbing of fellow fans has already begun. Whenever someone actually has a rational comment about a subject everyone jumps on them and assumes they're "trolling", its quite sad haha.
Edit: Someone beat me to it, sorry
They've resorted to Brady Hoke fat jokes. Not cool lil bro...
Were not on this board for Charlie weis week vs ND.
It bugs me how they always lock their threads. I enjoy reading those.
I like that they locked that down; after reading the posts about how all of our recruits will "jump ship" when Dantonio and Sparty win repeatedly I grew tired of such drivel. Dammit Sparty, just accept that the old boss is the new boss.
Come basketball season they sometimes have rationale discussions, but man that place is a cesspool during any other season/off-season. I get that it is a message board and the Internet, but the level of idiocy on display there is terrifying considering some of those people are actually employed and productive members of society.
I'm doing my happy dance right now. This is going to be an amazing month of football recruting.
He has NFL size, he has an NFL arm, and he'll be playing in an NFL offense. I think there's no question that Morris is the next in a long line (briefly interrupted) of successful pocket slingers at Michigan.
Hoke is bringing balance back to the force.
"Once more the Wolverines will rule the Galaxy. And... we shall have... peace."
This is crazy-early news, and I'm impressed the post was up so quickly. Congrats to Shane and wish him the best in his next two years before coming to UM. I too am an alum of the CHSL (though not De La Salle), so that's, um, nice.
I know that Tim is high on a 2012 QB being brought in, but does this likely signing (b/c you can never be sure how this will play out over the next two years) push the coaching staff away from getting a 2012 QB unless he is a top-5-type guy?
in the eye right here and now, whether this wunderkind pans out or not. Having come to know the rhythms of this board a little, I expect that many here will be high on him, low on him, then high on him again before he starts his senior year. . . in high school. He's making a big gesture to the program, too, and giving Brady Hoke a nice boost here in the state by committing so early; we should be grateful.
P.S. Is it just me or is Tim's diary kind of cautious in the first half then throw-caution-to-the-winds exuberant in his high hopes in the second?
Holy shit. This is freakin awesome. It's still a long way from his signing day, but still. Holy shit.
Of course, Borges is gonna have to go old time catholic school on him to get rid of that evil left-handedness, but I have confidence in him. (yes, sarcasm)
Michigan's first commit that's in a lower class than me. Weirdddd
Wait until the entire team is younger than you; then again when professional athletes are all younger than you. That's when I felt weird in an old kind of way.
I can't wait...
Just wait 'til the day when we're recruiting kids that weren't born in the same century (millennium!) as us. That's going to be very, very weird.
autograph I went after from a guy younger than me. Even though my intentions were pure, it made me feel, well, almost pervy.
I'm sorry if I took any of your innocence, Chris Perry. But hey, we'll always have the 51 carries earlier that day against Sparty, right?
Joining the team made me feel old. I remember when he couldn't walk. But at least Fred's no kid. Seeing guy's you saw play have kids playing is rough. I mean, Dumars was older at least, but Glenn Robinson's kid is going to be rough. (I don't even want to think about seeing Howard's kid play us...)
My old age revealed itself in the form of a prescription for blood pressure medication at the ripeness of 24.
For me, it was the first playboy playmate younger than me (Julia Schultz, Feb '98) that made me feel old.
=S, that's when the issue came out right?? If not that's a very, very young playmate