Trust the gut?
in re: is GRIII on a tear
You think we'd let one of the more controversial Wolverines in recent history go without getting the full treatment? Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to meet speed-demon, head-hunter, swag-dancer Demar Dorsey.
|4*, #19 S, #203 overall||4*, #13 S, #162 Overall||5*, 85, #2 S, #12 Overall|
Dorsey burst onto the scene when he blew up as a junior at the Under Armor combine:
Despite being committed to Florida for more than two months, little else was known about the 6-foot-1, 175-pound prospect.
That all changed with his appearance at the combine. Dorsey wowed observers by first running a 4.31-second 40-yard dash before bettering that on his second attempt with an unbelievable 4.25. The ultra-athletic junior also vertical jumped 39.5 inches, recorded a 4.1-second shuttle and broad jumped 10 feet 1 inch to show that his abilities stretch far beyond just speed.
Those testing numbers are très impressionnant, and Dorsey was tabbed as a future star. The Palm Beach Post certainly thought so:
Rivals and Scout have not yet released their 2010 prospect rankings, but expect Matt Elam, Demar Dorsey and Dowling to be five-star prospects.
Miami Herald ranked him #9 in Broward County before the summer of his senior year, and bestowed some praise upon him:
Having watched this gifted athlete play a number of times, you continue to see why some schools like him as a safety, while others love his speed and cover skills enough to put him at the corner position.
Same thing as everyone else.
In case you were wondering why ESPN thinks he's the #12 player - at any position - in the country, check out their evaluation of Dorsey, which is positively glowing:
Dorsey is a remarkable athlete that has a great combination of athleticism and toughness.
As a defensive back he is the entire package; a great blend of skill and natural talent. Very fast on run support with excellent closing speed. Gets to the ball carrier in a hurry and delivers the wood when he hits. Really explodes on contact and drives the legs throughout he tackle; really punishes the ball carrier.
So, yeah, it's fair to see, with an evaluation like this, why ESPN considered him the #12 prospect in the nation. They love the kid, and can't say enough positive things about him. They even mention that he'd be an excellent player on the other side of the ball, as well.
For those questioning his speed, he ran a 10.60-second 100m dash at a track meet as a junior, finishing second only to some guy you may have heard of, who just so happens to be his cousin*:
"I was kind of disappointed in myself to run a 10.44, but I will accept that,'' [Denard] Robinson said. "Running the No. 2 time in the nation is pretty good. I was trying to run a 10.3, but there was strong wind. I'm working harder on it and expect to hit a 10.3 by states.''
Boyd Anderson's Demar Dorsey finished second in 10.60.
That's speed to burn, folks, and he's shown it translates to the football field. He would go on to run a 10.55 time later in the year.
Early in the process (and apparently late in it as well, according to Rich Rodriguez), Dorsey was thought of primarily as a corner, who may be able to move to safety in the future.
Dorsey’s speed has coaches everywhere drooling. His coverage skills may be a little raw, but scouts believe he has the ability to play safety if he bulks up a little. Dorsey also had offers from FSU, Miami, UNC, and Wisconsin.
SoFlaFootball took in some 7-on-7 action by Dorsey's Boyd Anderson team, and came away impressed with his ability to play the deep safety role:
Dorsey is flanked by one of the best cornerback tandems in South Florida with Cliff Coleman (2010) and Harmon Brown (2011), and Dorsey is able to roam the middle of the field and make plays. He came away with two interceptions that were tipped by teammates as he came swooping in.
...and you bet your ass I added Harmon Brown to my 2011 watch list. What does Dorsey say of his own abilities?
"I can cover very well and I like to come up and hit," said Dorsey. "I am a very aggressive corner. I'm long and tall so I like to be aggressive jamming."
In addition to having all of the physical attribute required to be an elite player, Dorsey also hates losing and works hard to avoid it.
"Whenever we lose I try to come back harder and practice harder," said Dorsey. "I just try to better myself and help carry the team."
That second part speaks to something that Rich Rodriguez has talk about over and over again. He wants guys on his Michigan team to love football and love winning, and they have to be willing to put in the work to achieve their goals.
*(Maybe? It's unclear whether or not Robinson and Dorsey are actually related even though Dorsey has claimed so.)
Dorsey originally committed to Florida during his junior football season, and his final selection was between Michigan, Florida State, and USC. That's basically a who's-who of programs who have excellent secondaries (coughcough and Michigan coughcough), so this kid had the best offers you can possibly get. I could run down some of the other programs who really wanted the kid, but don't the Florida and USC offers say it all, really?
Dorsey's teammate Cliff Coleman, on the Boyd Anderson secondary going into last season:
"We call ourselves the no-fly zone,'' said Coleman, an electric kick returner who took back three punts and two kickoffs for touchdowns last year. "Teams are not going to get anything through the air. All of us can cover and we can tackle. We believe we have the best secondary in the state. Now we have to go out and prove it.''
Despite all the hooplah, Boyd Anderson struggled in the 2009 season, going 6-6 with a loss in the second round of the Florida 5A State Playoffs. So that didn't work out, but "No Fly Zone" seems to be an emerging nickname for Dorsey.
As far as individual stats, this site is incomplete, but credits Demar with the following:
31 rushing attempts for 203 yards (6.55 ypc) and 1 touchdown (add at least 1 carry, 65 yards, and another touchdown), 8 receptions for 142 yards (17.75 ypc) and two touchdowns, 5 punts for 124 yards, and no stats defensively or in the return game.
The Detroit News says he racked up 75 tackles and 4 interceptions, to go along with 540 receiving yards.
FAKE 40 TIME
Brian said on the radio yesterday that Dorsey's reported times automatically get five FAKES out of five, with a 4.35 on Scout and an Under Armour Combine-verified 4.25 to ESPN (as noted above).
I take issue with Mr. Cook here. but this kid was the fastest at every combine he went to, and was anointed the "Fastest 2010 Football Recruit in the Country" by one source. I'll bump it down a notch, and give him merely four FAKES out of five.
[ed: sub-4.3s are 5/5 FAKES guaranteed.]
There's as much video of Dorsey dancing and singing things that I think white people aren't supposed to understand as there is of him playing football:
PREDICTION BASED ON FLIMSY EVIDENCE
This kid is one hell of a player. He will get extensive special teams duty as a true freshman (including as a potential return man), and even has the opportunity to challenge for a starting position in his first year on campus. He has elite speed, something that Michigan is really lacking on defense outside of Troy Woolfolk.
If Dorsey can keep his nose clean at Michigan, and progresses with the mental aspects of the game to compliment his physical talent, he should be able to challenge for All-American honors in his final year or two on campus.
UPSHOT FOR THE REST OF THE CLASS
This class is completed, and Dorsey was the last person to join. As the 2010 class had 6 DBs in it, including Dorsey, the 2011 class doesn't have as much of a pressing need, and Greg Brown and Delonte Hollowell have both already signed up. Any secondary positions left in the 2011 crop will probably be reserved for elite talents with the needs at linebacker, nose tackle, and offensive line.
Trust the gut?
Dorsey has chosen wisely.
better than the cullen one ... i couldnt be more pleased to have a little more florida speed
for double penetration.
I don't know if how he knew or if he was just tempting fate but the man was right.
Props to him.
Got a text around 7 PM the night before signing day from a source saying Dorsey's on board. I followed up to confirm, and that was that.
Not a prediction, I don't make bold predictions unless it's against Ohio State (we're gonna beat them at the horseshoe for the Big Ten title)
It's amazing, you have doubled your Mgopoints in less than a week!
So much for the pundits, who were off base on this one.
Dorsey will have instant impact...a great pickup, and nice end to the day.
Sounds like Dorsey was telling a lot of people what they wanted to hear.
In my experience, that's not exactly unheard of for kids from Florida. Maybe it's all kids, but Devin Hester told three coaches he was coming there. Devin Aromashadu committed to three schools before signing with Auburn. J.R. Bryant was a "silent" commitment for two schools before signing with Miami.
There was a WR from Miami named William Johnson who originally committed to Ohio State, got hurt, failed to qualify, committed to NCSU, failed to qualify, went to community college, tried to commit again to both schools, failed to qualify, went to JUCO and tried AGAIN to commit...and by that point, no one was offering him a scholarship.
Brent Schaeffer went to bed the night before NSD right after telling Doc Holliday that he was going to commit to him. Then he woke up and committed to Tennessee. Then he got thrown out of Tennessee and went to JUCO...and told Holiday again that he was coming...only to end up at Ole Miss and then quit and try and transfer. I have no idea where that guy ended up.
Something about South Florida kids...maybe it's the INTENSE scrutiny and the fact that they just so young and in the limelight for the first time...
Well we're the only ones who got a legally binding contract from him so enjoy it.
In Raback We Trust!
Alright...the pain of the Parker loss is eased.
But, anyone know what the wide difference between ESPN and Rivals/Scout on Dorsey's ranking? I guess it doesn't really matter. I have my own system whereby the highest ranking of the three is the most accurate. Go Blue!
None of our commits have been Rivals friendly.
but who cares.
it could be partly U of Florida bias on ESPN's part -- DD was a solid commit for them for a year. So that may have influenced ESPN. Indeed, I have to say it certainly influences my own view of him -- that Meyer and staff liked him enough to offer him early means more to me than whatever Rivals/Scout/ESPN thinks...
ESPN tends to rate Under Armor All Americans higher, as this is ESPN's all-star game. I assume this is why DG is also rated higher on ESPN.
Dorsey saved an otherwise disappointing day with the Parker loss. I can't believe he chose Washington (that Washington?) over USC after Kiffin took him to dinner at an ATM.
Don't be dissapointed. I always wanted Dorsey way more than I wanted Parker. Speed Kills!
Hope dude lives up to the billing, looking at his 40 time, wow..get him on the track team with Denard, and Woolfork
There is no Woolfork on the track team.
Troy WoolfoLk joins Jeron Stokes and Denard Robinson, among others, as football players who run track.
WoolfoRk is a Pam Ward & BTN C-team mistake.
you got the meaning
After seeing him play in the Under Armour Game this is a great get. Always great to get more south Florida speed.
I was losing it after Parker and Knight committed elsewhere. I am very much relieved now.
No fly zoneeeeeeeee!
I guess the Herald was so sure he was going to pick FSU that they had the headline all ready to go....then you read the article and of course it says he chooses Michigan over FSU. Nice work there Herald!
Boyd Anderson's Demar Dorsey to play for Florida State
Boyd Anderson star defensive back Demar Dorsey chose Michigan over Florida State during National Signing Day on Wednesday in front of a full auditorium at the school in Lauderdale Lakes.
Dorsey, one of the nation's top recruits, teased the crowd by initially grabbing an FSU hat but then set it aside, opting to sport Michigan apparel.
``No more pressure,'' Dorsey said. ``I feel great. That was the hardest decision I had to make. I'm glad everything is finally over. I was getting like 1,000 calls and texts a day.''
Dorsey said family and friends gathered to help him make his decision between Florida State and Michigan.
He felt more comfortable being farther away from home to concentrate more on football.
Dorsey Defeats Truman!
Demar Dorsey the destroyer?
A little long, but he seems to have an affinity towards it.
Not acquiring Parker and Knight was very disappointing. When I found out Michigan got Demar Dorsey, I screamed out loud. Then I had to explain what day it was (NSD) to the people I startled.
Rich Rod knows what he is doing. Give this guy the time he needs to build this team. Michigan will be one of the most agile and swiftest team in CFB.
The athletes we're getting are really something. I am very impressed with how recruiting has gone the last 2.5 classes.
Love this kid's swagger and confidence. Hopefully he will be a force to be reckoned with in the backfield.
Just to nit pick a little here Tim, but the class of 2010 has 7 DB's in it (Carvin, Marvin, Christian, Avery, Talbott, Dorsey, Vinopal).
Technically Marvin Robinson is a safety, but I think all the scouts and coaches evaluated him based on his ability to move down to OLB. I wouldn't count him in the secondary.
Then again, I don't follow this stuff closely, so maybe you're right.
I too wouldn't be surprised if he ends up at LB, but he was told explicitly that he is being brought in to play FS.
If you want to exclude MRob from the DB's because you think he'll end up elsewhere, then we should include Conelius, because I think he'll be moved TO the defensive backfield.
Considering all the players we have slotted as potential punt/kick returners, can we please kill off the Dileo was given a scholarship to be a return man meme?
I get your point, but I don't think the syllogism really works:
P: Various and sundry MGoBloggers have identified a bunch of potential kick returners.
C: Dileo was not given a scholarship primarily to be a kick returner.
Anyway, we all know Dileo was offered for his grit, work ethic, general gym ratness, and uncanny resemblance to Mr. Wesley Welker.
Who? Never heard of him. Must be some preferred walk on who didnt show up on anybody's radar.
another d. dorsey thread? maybe you should use the search function.
Richard Ash, Davion Rogers, Jake Ryan, Carvin Johnson, Jibreel Black, Demar Dorsey. Lots of guys who weren't even on the radar two months ago. All of them on defense. The snake oil was flowing by the gallons this year. Great finish to a class that was looking really shaky for a while.
As early as last summer I believe....just thought of that
Both Black and Ash had been on the radar for a long time. They were soft commits to other schools. Once they saw the light, they wised up and changed their commitments. I remember hearing about both of the receiving offers well longer then 2 months ago.
hahahahahahaha that little white kid at the end
"by the way-" "WE BALLIN BOOOOOOOOIII"
"singing things that I think white people aren't supposed to understand"
I think he was singing this (ps, I am white)
We won't know the answer to who has the greatest impact until everyone sees the field. We love Devin Gardner, and there are some other great players in the class. However, the secondary is by far Michigan's biggest area of need, where Dorsey can possibly make an immediate impact. QB, with Tate doing well, and Denard behind him, is not as critical, and there is a steeper learning curve for freshman QB's to learn the playbook. Most other position groups, there is more depth. The possible exception is LB, but we don't have a stud the level of Dorsey coming in there. So I give my prelim vote to Dorsey as the biggest immed impact player in this year's recruits. Dorsey puts the cherry on the top of a good class.