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By Brian — June 16th, 2009 at 9:40 AM — 26 comments
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South Carolina quarterback Cornelius Jones, who runs 6'3" and 185, committed to Michigan after his first day at summer camp. Despite holding a Michigan offer since last June, he remains mysterious to… uh… everyone.

GURU RATINGS

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So, yeah. As mentioned: Jones is a near-complete mystery, totally unranked so far in an era when if you aren't ranked by mid-June you're probably a MAC-level prospect. There are good reasons for this. He has no highlight film and hasn't hit up any camps or combines I am aware of. And he spent his early high school years not playing football.

Despite this, Michigan saw fit to offer him when his varsity snap count stood at a robust zero:

Cornelius Jones hasn’t played a down for the Spartanburg Vikings varsity football team yet, but Michigan has seen enough to offer him a scholarship.

The junior quarterback received his first offer Tuesday, after Vikings coach Freddie Brown sent the Big Ten school a five-minute video of Jones from a scrimmage.

That Tuesday was last June. His coach, perhaps alone amongst all people, wasn't surprised:

“After I sent the tape, no, I wasn’t surprised at all,” Brown said. “I can see who he’s going to be in this offense in two years.”

There's another small bit from Brown on his commitment:

"I think it's a great decision," said Spartanburg coach Freddie Brown. "He looked in state first. He didn't receive an offer and he moved on. He's a great player and a good kid. He'll start out as a quarterback. He threw a lot of balls the last couple of days at camp. Their system is a lot like our system."

The only other free internet discussion of any variety about Jones comes from this local TV guy:

Spartanburg’s new quarterback Cornelius Jones could eventually remind longtime area fans of another player by that same last name.  A decade ago, Gaffney’s Kentrell Jones glided past opposing defenses and threw bombs when rolling out and that’s who this Jones reminds me of, in a much rawer form.

If you, like me, are not familiar with South Carolina high school football you're probably saying to yourself "who the hell is Kentrell Jones?" Well, he's apparently enough of a high school legend that people were comparing him favorably to five-star Willy Korn last year and has video of a 1997 state championship high school game on the YouTubes. After that game he disappeared and may have re-emerged as Drake's backup quarterback… or something.

So there you go. Or, rather, don't really.

OFFERS

As of April:

--Cornelius Jones (6-2, 185) of Spartanburg favors Michigan at this point. He has offers from the Wolverines, Duke, Wake Forest and Stanford. He's also hearing from North Carolina, Georgia Tech and Virginia. Jones went to junior day at USC and Clemson but hasn't heard from them since.

Did I mention Jones currently sports a 3.7 GPA? It's not quite Holmes Onwukaife's offer from Harvard, but dang that's a bunch of high profile academic schools.

Despite the high GPA there something unfortunate in Jones' past:

Jones hasn’t played football in the Spartanburg system for a couple of years after he got into some trouble, he said. He was one of the players that Brown went out into the community and got back in school during the spring.

“He’s given me another chance, and I want to make sure I make the most of it,” Jones said.

Since that article was published just after Jones' sophomore year of high school, the trouble must have happened in, like, middle school. I can't imagine what sort of trouble an eighth-grader can get in, but in any case that's well before my personal strike meter starts ticking. That may explain the instate schools' reticence to recruit him, I guess.

STATS

Jones had no stats until last year, of course, and what stats he had indicated he was still pretty rough:

As a junior QB, he completed 89 of 185 passes (48.1%) for 1,020 yards and 2 TDs and had 226 carries for 736 yards (3.3ypc) and 7 TDs

Raw.

FAKE 40 TIME

This man is so obscure he has no fake 40 time.

VIDEO

And neither does he have any video.

PREDICTION BASED ON FLIMSY EVIDENCE

Well… WTF, guys? I have no idea what to tell you here. Jones hasn't even been rated by a single scouting service. His stats are eh, his offers aren't great, and the in-state schools apparently had zero interest. None of these are good indicators.

Despite all that, I'm not too peeved. The super-early offer and continued pursuit implies that Jones was a guy Michigan was, for whatever reason, highly enthusiastic about. He's done pretty well so far at Michigan's camp. A QB offer from David Cutcliffe means something even if he's at Duke. And with Forcier, Robinson, and Gardner in front of Jones the fourth guy on the roster should ideally be a developmental prospect with a lot of athleticism, high upside, and the ability to play elsewhere. Check, check, check. There are plenty of reasons bigger schools would avoid a flier on Jones, and reason to believe Michigan got in on the ground floor of a diamond in the rough they can afford to spend some time on.

UPSHOT FOR THE REST OF THE CLASS

Jones fills the second QB slot in the class and shouldn't scare off Gardner any; unless there's a decommit—which I guarantee you is completely impossible and will never happen—Michigan looks done at quarterback. The only other quarterbacks on the board with offers are AJ Derby, who doesn't seem interested, Munchie Legaux, who is now talking like he is a huge longshot to depart the South, and Jeffery Godfrey, who Michigan may have some shot at but is talking up FSU.

So if Godfrey doesn't get recruited heavily, Michigan is done. And successfully: plan A was Gardner plus a developmental prospect who has the athleticism and willingness to move to another if QB doesn't work out.

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June 16th, 2009 at 9:49 AM | The Gun Show (Score:1)
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Maybe SC and Clemson didn't want him because the disparity between his right and left biceps was too great.

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June 16th, 2009 at 9:59 AM | Beat me to it (Score:1)
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Looks like someone had some fun with the photo-shop.

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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June 16th, 2009 at 11:37 AM | Rafa (Score:1)
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Looks like he has been on the Rafael Nadal workout plan.

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June 16th, 2009 at 9:59 AM | I like it. (Score:1)
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I like it.

Dude looks jacked.

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June 16th, 2009 at 10:05 AM | I look at our current QB (Score:1)
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I look at our current QB situation like this:

Tate starts this year, with Denard backing up. If he's as good as we hope, Tate plays 3 years and then checks out his NFL prospects. At his size, a 4th year probably won't raise his stock much. Meanwhile, Gardner comes in next year and redshirts.

2011 has the order Forcier/Robinson/Gardner. 2012 may see Forcier gone, in which case the order is Robinson/Gardner/next big recruit. Robinson starts one year, graduates, and Gardner starts 2013 and 2014, leaving after his 5th year and a string of 4 national titles.

Yeap. So this kid never has to play QB anyway.

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June 16th, 2009 at 10:15 AM | Or it's a crapshoot because (Score:1)
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Or it's a crapshoot because they're a.) incoming freshmen or b.) high school seniors.

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June 16th, 2009 at 10:16 AM | Nonsense. That is how it will (Score:1)
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Nonsense. That is how it will happen. It has been ordained in the stars! How dare you defy me?!? KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!

"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
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June 16th, 2009 at 12:14 PM | Um... (Score:1)
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Actually, he has no stars at all to ordain this. But it has been ordained by MGoCommunity and that's just as good.

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June 16th, 2009 at 10:34 AM | This doesn't make any sense... (Score:1)
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"At his size, a 4th year probably won't raise his stock much"

At Tate's size, his only hope of the NFL is to stay a 4th year and put up numbers. Look at Chase Daniel, Todd Reesing, etc.

Also, cosign crapshoot comment...but you are right, the depth chart is starting to look great in the next couple years.

EDIT: I said Graham Harrell originally, meant to say Todd Reesing

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June 16th, 2009 at 10:53 AM | It depends on how good he is (Score:1)
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It depends on how good he is the first three years.

I site Bruce Gradkowski, who stood 6-1 on the ruler approved by the National Association of Over Estimators, and was part of Heisman talks after his Junior season, considered a top 2 rounds draft pick, came back as a senior and went in the 6th.

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June 16th, 2009 at 10:36 AM | Tate will be here for 4 (Score:1)
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Tate will be here for 4 years. Denard will be 2nd string and may or may not move to another position. Gardner will redshirt and then start for two years, unless we get someone amazing next year, which is doubtful.

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June 16th, 2009 at 10:40 AM | QB kerfuffle (Score:1)
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At the risk of sounding like a prick, yes all of this certainly "will" come to pass.

I remember when Drew Henson was the bomb, when Matt Gutierrez was ready to take the reigns, and when the 5 star Ryan Mallet era was imminent.

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June 16th, 2009 at 12:08 PM | Henson was very good. The (Score:1)
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Henson was very good. The Mallett era is imminent at Arkansas and would have been here. If Gutierrez hadn't been injured, he may have been very good as well.

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June 16th, 2009 at 12:24 PM | That is not reality (Score:1)
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There are way too many if's in there. None of those guys (Henson, Mallett, Gutz) really did anything at M. The same may be true for the current guys. Who knows.

As far as a solid 4th QB who can play other positions, Jones is a great pickup. M offered him like a year ago, which says alot about what the coaches think.

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June 16th, 2009 at 12:30 PM | If I were you, I would revise (Score:1)
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If I were you, I would revise the inclusion of Henson in your "never really did anything at M" list.

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June 16th, 2009 at 1:06 PM | Wow, that is a ridiculously.... (Score:1)
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...stupid statement to make about Henson.

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June 16th, 2009 at 1:53 PM | Henson pretty much had the (Score:1)
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Henson pretty much had the most prolific single season passing of any QB in Michigan history.

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June 16th, 2009 at 2:00 PM | I should probably get over it... (Score:1)
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...but man do I wish Henson and David Terrell had stuck around to play one more year.

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June 16th, 2009 at 10:30 AM | hmmm... (Score:1)
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Tough to know what to make of this one. To add to what Brian said, though, this may be a decent addition of QB depth considering that a lot of top talent would probably look at Forcier, Robinson, and Gardner (assuming he stays committed) and think they won't have much of a chance to play...Also, at the risk of falling back on an old argument, Coach Rodriguez has had a hand in the success of Shaun King, Woody Danzler, and Pat White. Nobody on Scout or Rivals can claim that.

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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June 16th, 2009 at 10:44 AM | Rivals did rate Vince Young (Score:1)
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Rivals did rate Vince Young the #1 player in his class.

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June 16th, 2009 at 10:57 AM | don't get me wrong (Score:1)
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I'd be much happier of this guy was highly rated. I'm just looking for reasons to be optimistic.

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June 16th, 2009 at 10:51 AM | I am certain (Score:1)
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it is due to his grit factor, and his hip swivel and his pad level.

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June 16th, 2009 at 11:25 AM | Jones (Score:1)
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I've never seen any highlights of this guy at all, so I'm going to trust the Michigan coaches and hope the guy is a nice developmental player.

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June 16th, 2009 at 12:19 PM | 40 time... (Score:1)
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So, since he didn't even provide a 40, does that make it the most realistic of them all? If there's nothing to make it fake (i.e. since it doesn't exist it can't be fake) does that make it real? I like this kid's integrity, he doesn't even lie about how fast he is.

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June 16th, 2009 at 1:12 PM | If he doesn't pan out on the field... (Score:1)
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at least he will be Academic All B10.

I'm gonna take two weeks off, and then quit.

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June 16th, 2009 at 9:00 PM | OMG!!! Sleeveless! ??? (Score:1)
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Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 423

OMG Body-fat-less too.

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