Hello: Ben Mason Comment Count

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This poor kid. [Photo: Danbury News-Times]

In a ceremony where the decor took away what little suspense there may have been heading into the announcement, three-star Newtown (CT) Sandy Hook ILB/FB Ben Mason committed to Michigan. Mason picked up a scholarship offer while on an unofficial visit in April, and a subsequent offer from Wisconsin didn't sway him from the Wolverines.

Mason projects to either inside linebacker or fullback at the next level; after his Michigan visit, he told TMI's Brice Marich he was open to either:

“(My parents) loved the college town feel of Ann Arbor and impressed with the academics. They also loved the opportunity I have defensively at linebacker or offensively at fullback with Coach Wheatley. I just want to play football. I really don’t care what position.”

Mason and Chase Lasater give Michigan two ILB/FB types in the class. Of the pair, Mason seems more likely to stick on defense—it's worth noting Don Brown saw fit to offer him when Brown was at Boston College. Michigan now has 12 commits in the 2017 class, including another linebacker prospect in four-star Josh Ross.

GURU RATINGS

Scout Rivals ESPN 247 247 Comp
3*, #32 ILB 3* ILB NR OLB 3*, 85, #28 ILB,
#765 Ovr
3*, #35 ILB,
#883 Ovr

Mason is a middle-of-the-pack three-star to Scout and 247, while Rivals hasn't given him a position ranking and ESPN hasn't bothered to scout him at all. Mason plays two positions that don't generate many four-star prospects (ILB and FB) and he comes from a state that doesn't produce much in the way of football talent; he's likely to stay a three-star.

Mason's size has some suggesting he could grow into a defensive end role down the road. 247 has the most updated figures: Mason checked in a 6'2.5", 247 pounds at last weekend's Opening regional. That's big enough to step in immediately at either inside linebacker or fullback.

[Hit THE JUMP for the rest of the commitment post.]

SCOUTING

Scout has a full evaluation posted to Mason's profile:

Evaluation

Mason brings versatility because he can play middle linebacker, or add weight and move to defensive end. He could also shed some weight and play outside linebacker. But his best spot is middle linebacker because he reads plays quickly and can accelerate to the ball carrier. He is built to be a run stopper. He needs to improve his acceleration at the start of a play, but he possesses closing speed. He moves his feet properly when dropping into pass coverage, where he is comfortable. Mason reads his keys and can get through the gaps to blitz. He is rugged and strong. -- Brian Dohn

Strengths

  • Athleticism
  • Blitzing Ability
  • Closing Speed
  • Run Stopping
  • Size
  • Strength

Areas to Improve

  • Agility
  • Change of Direction
  • Foot Quickness
  • Speed

Having "athleticism" as a strength with the weaknesses listed makes little sense; the tape backs up that Mason isn't particularly fast or quick, but he closes on runners in a hurry because of short-range acceleration and quick reads. If he sticks on defense, it's going to be as a MIKE, where his run-stopping ability can be put to good use without exposing him too much in coverage.

The other scouting report out there on Mason comes from last weekend, when 247 named him the #2 defensive performer at the Opening regional in New Jersey:

Sandy Hook (Conn.) Newton linebacker Ben Mason won MVP honors for his position group, doing well in drills, the Cat and Mouse setting and also moving well in coverage in 1-on-1s and 7-on-7s. It’s easy to call the 6-foot-2 ½, 247-pound Mason a throwback, and one wouldn’t think this would be a setting he’d shine in, but Mason did his thing and left with hardware.

That performance provides hope that Mason can hold up against the pass. Stout, run-stuffing MIKE-types don't tend to do well in camp settings.

Mason has a solid football pedigree. His father, Bob Mason, was a D-III All-American defensive end at Ithaca in the mid-80s who got a quick look in the NFL; the family has regular film sessions:

“After every game we watch film together and go over what I’ve done wrong so I can correct it for the next game,” Mason said. “He gives me a lot of feedback.”

All Patriot fans, the three have spent countless hours watching college and pro football together over the years.

“It’s literally all we ever do on weekends,” Mason said. “We’re always hanging out watching football. The best advice he’s ever given me is just play as hard as I can because that’s really all you can do.”

If Mason doesn't stay on defense, he should be a very physical, coachable guy at fullback, and he could be more than just a blocker: he had an increased role in the offense as a junior and showed potential as both a short-yardage runner and receiver out of the backfield.

OFFERS

Mason holds offers from Army, Boston College, Cal, Columbia, UConn, Dartmouth, Duke, Harvard, Kansas, UMass, Navy, Pitt, Rutgers, Syracuse, Temple, Wisconsin, and Yale. While that list lacks high-end football powers, it's great to see so many Ivy League schools and a couple service academies; academics shouldn't be a worry here.

HIGH SCHOOL

Connecticut isn't known as a major football state, and Newtown isn't much of an exception; according to the Rivals database, Mason is the first three-star to come out of the program. Newtown fell in the semifinals of last year's state playoffs.

STATS

Mason has been a remarkably productive high school player. He had 113 tackles (66 solo) with 11 TFLs, four sacks, and four interceptions (three returned for TDs) at linebacker in 2015, adding 231 yards on 43 rushes (5.4 YPC) and 416 yards on 24 receptions (16.2 YPC) with 15 combined offensive touchdowns.

As a sophomore, Mason tallied 110 tackles (76 solo) with 6.0 TFLs, 5.5 sacks, an interception, and a fumble return for a score.

FAKE 40 TIME

Mason recorded a 4.88 electronic-timed 40-yard dash, which gets zero FAKEs. As mentioned above, he doesn't have great straight-line speed.

VIDEO

Junior highlights:

Sophomore highlights and single-game reels can be found on his Hudl page.

PREDICTION BASED ON FLIMSY EVIDENCE

Mason is the type of player who Harbaugh will happily deploy on both sides of the ball by the time he's done at Michigan. He could be a day-one starter at fullback, as Khalid Hill, Henry Poggi, and Bobby Henderson all are set to depart after this season. In that case, Mason, Chase Lasater, and a walk-on or two—most likely current junior Nate Volk—will compete for snaps.

Down the road, Mason can also compete at inside linebacker, where there's also set to be a lot of competition for open starting spots in the next couple seasons. His first opportunity to crack the two-deep should come after Mike McCray graduates following the 2018 season.

UPSHOT FOR THE REST OF THE CLASS

Michigan is definitely set at fullback, and with three players capable of playing inside linebacker in the class (Mason, Lasater, and Ross), that position group may be settled as well. M is up to 12 commits in a class that the coaching staff apparently expects to reach the mid-to-high 20s. Top priorities going forward include outside receiver, tight end, and linemen on both sides of the ball.

Here's the 2017 class as it currently stands: 

Comments

Sopwith

May 3rd, 2016 at 10:49 PM ^

He would have been a nose tackle on our h.s. team. Jeebus. Physically the guy he reminds me of is Andy Katzenmoyer. No where near as fast but man is he imposing when he arrives.

Larry Appleton

May 4th, 2016 at 12:20 AM ^

I'm starting to dread Hello posts. Too many losers coming on here with "OMG 3-STARZZZ!!! WAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!"

Losers. You are losers, losers.



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Matte Kudasai

May 4th, 2016 at 1:18 AM ^

Because if we have a good season as expected, the 4 & 5 * kids are going to want to come and that means a potential mess and telling some kids no.

I love Harbaugh, just not crazy about his recruiting strategy.

The Sat camps will surely add a few more commits and most likely lower rated kids.

Also, this kid seems to be the same player as Lasater - FB/LB hybrid.  How many of these kids do we need?

I see the appeal of this type of player, but it sure seems like we could be getting higher rated kids later on in the process - and by higher rated, I mean better.

Magnus

May 4th, 2016 at 6:36 AM ^

I see what you're saying about FB prospects, but I also think some people are missing the appeal of these players because they play an "undesirable" position. Fullback isn't a sexy spot because they don't make big headlines, won't get drafted high, etc.

But Michigan has very, very few options at fullback beyond 2017. I think we can all agree it's an important position for Harbaugh, even more so than it was under Lloyd Carr. However, Bobby Henderson graduates after this year, and the other options are all going to be redshirt juniors this year (Poggi, Hill, Shallman). When Lasater/Mason arrive, they might redshirt for a year while those upperclassmen play out their eligibility; or they might allow guys like Hill (TE) and Poggi (DL) to move back to their more natural positions.

If we look at the position of FB for what it's intended to be, I don't think it's a 6'3", 270 lb. guy like Hill or a 6'4", 260 lb. guy like Poggi (heights/weights are off the top of my head but you get the point). They do have some upside (Hill is a good receiver out of the backfield, Poggi improved significantly as a blocker throughout last season), but neither one is Sione Houma or Owen Marecic. 

Players like Mason/Lasater *do* have the potential to be those prototypical fullbacks, and they're both more open to it than someone like, say, Kingston Davis. Meanwhile, you're not going to find many 4- and 5-star fullbacks, so this is how you have to go about getting guys at that position from a recruiting perspective. It's not sexy and doesn't help the star rating average, but it's necessary.

ScruffyTheJanitor

May 4th, 2016 at 8:10 AM ^

I can either trust Jim Harbaugh-- an excellent coach who knows what he wants at fullback-- or I can trust a bunch of internet posters who are mainly downgrading a kid based on the observations of other people?

The Fullback in Harbaughs offense isn't just a sledgehammer in cleats. An intelligent fullback that can make reads, pick up blitzes, and generally knows what the hell he is doing can be a dangerous weapon in the Harbaugh's offense (Harbaughffense?). If Jim Harbaugh looks at this kid and says, "He knows what he's doing," then I am going to trust him, stars be damned.

WestQuad

May 4th, 2016 at 8:29 AM ^

Seems like a high quality kid who can play football.  Welcome to Michigan.

It's funny how positive or negative the board is on players depending upon the momentum of the program.   When Michigan goes 11-2 or 10-3 we trust the coaches.  When the program is doing poorly we all look at the .84 from 247 and ask why are we recruiting a B- player?  We've seen the correlations between starz and national championships and NFL draft stock. It was hard watching 11  4-5* OSU guys go in the first 3 rounds of the NFL draft.  

I think our football coaches can identify talent and underrated guys just like Beilein can, but it is nice when the recruiting services validate with lots of stars so that trust isn't necessary.

Kid was recognized at the opening camp and is a big thumper.  An electronically timed 4.88 doesn't seem that slow to me.  We just need to get the kid a headband and there will be more love.

AZBlue

May 4th, 2016 at 9:57 AM ^

For comparison purposes I think the 4.88 is similar or faster than Bolden and Morgan pre-draft. I don't think you ideally want an entire LB corps in that speed range, but it isn't huge red flag IME. Both Ross and (hopefully) Singleton are faster.

bronxblue

May 4th, 2016 at 10:09 AM ^

For once, I wish a hello post about a non-4* kid could just be full of "welcome aboard", not a bunch of internet complaining about whether or not Harbaugh is doing his job right because people are too lazy to look beyond a number. Jim Harbaugh has won eveywhere he's been with an assortment of talent. If there is one thing I'm going to trust him on, it's talent identification and development. Welcome Ben!

ak47

May 4th, 2016 at 10:30 AM ^

If he winds up at FB I'm happy.  If he is an ILB I don't think its great.  Stopping spread teams means having athleticisim all over the field but especially at LB.  

74polSKA

May 4th, 2016 at 10:51 AM ^

I'm not sure where this idea that Mason is unathletic originated. I'm not a film expert, but if you look at his measurables, he stacks up against any of the ILB's in the ESPN 300. I don't love their recruiting rankings, but they have a tab on some recruits with the camp verified numbers and SPARQ scores. Mason has the fastest 20yd shuttle time and is faster than many in the 40 as well. He also has comparable measurable scores to the other 5 ILB's with "testing results" in their top 300 (which include their #2 ILB Leonard Warner from GA). 

Wolfman

May 4th, 2016 at 1:35 PM ^

If Butkus were to make a highlight tape and supply his measureables they would, more-than-likely be behind Ben's. And that would not be of that much importance to me because what Coach Harbaugh does that many of you don't, is decide how a young man best helps this team, not whether or not he matches up with the number of stars required to be considered by Michigan. Oh, you say there isn't any. Now you're catching on.

My point is and this was shortly after Dick retired one of the good rags, probably Sport because SI was going south long before it hid permanently. At least to my knowledge. But they did a piece on this, and it touched on what Magnus had to say about how seldom, especially those  initiating the play via Brown's attack, should he play lber, do players, after the snap, run in a straight line. And even then, his time is not bad. Does it bother you he's too big? He may be a DE when all is said and done, but I guarantee Jim has an immediate plan and a secondary plan if he is not able to get the young man at optimum weight. He also might just let him find his weight, with an idea in mind, of course, via the S&C and he'll use him accordingly. Some people are just football players and this takes me back to Butkus. The writer, interviewing many people for the article, brought up the fact that Dick did not have good time at all when under the stop watch, but when he was chasing down a RB, he seemed somehow to get there. If he were to be measured against these players today, he might  be a high 3*, but Harbaugh would know if he were the best player in IL, and that's all you need to know. He, Brown, Mattison, Partridge, everyone concerned - and that's a damn fine brain trust, has their say. Hell, his teammate and fellow rookie in the '65 class never broke 4.7 in the forty. Is there any doubt in your minds either of these two could play today? Sayers, for those few wondering.

And even if Ben doesn't get the bump that often accompanies a MI offer, it does not matter. JH makes the young men aware when he offers what's expected, what they like, dislike, etc. But no one gets an offer if they are not liked. How much more do you have to know?

I don't know so I won't make a statement, but I'll hazard a guess his measureables were on par - probably better than Kerridge and Souma. Would you want to throw either of those back? And they were taken by  a lesser evaluator. Welcome the young man. He's a wolverine.

 

74polSKA

May 4th, 2016 at 2:20 PM ^

I appreciate your thoughts, but I'm not sure you understood the intent of my post. I agree that measurables aren't the best way to evaluate a player. My point was just that Mason's measurables actually show more athleticism than people want to admit. Given his ability to read plays, I'm not that worried about his straight line speed. You can be fast as hell and take one step in the wrong direction and never be able to make up for it.

Wolfman

May 4th, 2016 at 8:13 PM ^

But that was not really my point on Butkus anyway, was it?  I don't think you're confused at all. Football, more than any game i've ever played - never played hockey - can be affected by that intangible Butkus played with, that focus, intensity, sheer desire, a will to win that makes  a select few far more valuable than even those that possess far more athleticism than they. My point is Harbaugh knows the difference between a highly skilled athlete that might fit well into his team and a football player that he has equal confidence in. That is all. Nothing to be confused about. Thank you. And in the end, when they become a wolverine, we accept them, regardless.

kehnonymous

May 4th, 2016 at 12:06 PM ^

Honestly, this might be a bit draconian but I'm personally fine with banhammering posters who complain about a recruit's star-rating in his "Hello:" post - the one MGoPost he's most likely to read.  There's zero upside to us as a program in seeing a kid we recruit reading the yammerings of keyboard warriors crapping over him.  We've banned people for less and, no, the 1st amendment doesn't apply to this forum.

Matte Kudasai

May 4th, 2016 at 1:34 PM ^

Mason was an MVP at LB which is ironic, because in the film they show him getting beat on some 1 on 1 drills.

Definitely looks like a FB in those clips.

gobluerebirth

May 4th, 2016 at 4:37 PM ^

He's a football player. This is a football team..what's the issue? 3 TD's on 4 picks. I'd rather have a smart player(Kovacs) over an athletic one. Of course it helps if it's both.

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