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Brian

9/20/2014 – Michigan 10, Utah 26 – 2-2

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We have a grainy screenshot that symbolizes the demise of the Carr era. It's a zone stretch against Ohio State on which every Buckeye has slashed through the Michigan line.

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Michigan would trundle to fewer than 100 yards of total offense. Chad Henne's shoulder was separated and he was still the best available option because the only other was a freshman version of Ryan Mallett who fumbled 20% of the under-center snaps he took and got in screaming matches on the sideline. That's because the quarterbacks recruited after Chad Henne were Jason Forcier and David Cone.

By the time that Ohio State game rolled around Michigan had desperately talked Alex Mitchell out of retirement so they could start him. In that context that shot is barely surprising. And then Carr went out and beat Tim Tebow, because nobody got off the mat like Lloyd Carr.

We have just received the grainy screenshot that will symbolize the demise of the Hoke era.

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As you've no doubt screamed into a pillow about already, there are ten men on the field as Utah returns a punt for a touchdown. I'm not sure that even matters since two of them are within 30 yards of the guy when he catches the ball.

This site has been complaining about the punting since Hoke's hire, and it has cost Michigan dearly in two losses—Ace Sanders also returned a punt for a touchdown in South Carolina's last-gasp Outback win—and seen Michigan dawdle at the bottom of punt return yards ceded the last two years.

Worse than the yards given up has been Brady Hoke's approach when challenged about it. Never has he given a justification that's even remotely plausible. Once he said he wasn't comfortable with it. At the time I said this was a crappy answer, and it remains a crappy answer:

MGoFollowup: What’s your opinion of the spread punt formation vs. the traditional punt formation?

“Uh, we don’t use it.”

MGoFollowup: Is there a rationale for that?

“I think, you know … I’m more comfortable with what we use. That’s the rationale.”

When pressed a couple weeks ago he said "I don't want to talk about it."

As we get more data about Brady Hoke's tenure that seems less like an isolated crappy answer than the whole damn thing. Anybody with a spreadsheet and an ability to tell up from down could have put compelling evidence of the spread punt's efficacy in front of Hoke's face. Maybe they did.

It wouldn't have mattered. Brady Hoke isn't defending it, so you can't argue back. "We don't do it because we don't do it" is an unassailable position. It is not a rationale.

So it goes. Michigan has settled into a pattern of doing nonsense things, from everything on offense last year to the punting to their continuing, shocking inability to go faster than a waddle. That stat from last week about how Michigan was faster than only Army amongst D-I teams is astounding. Michigan had spent an entire half down three scores, and their tempo was still nationally worst. These things all come from the head coach.

When Michigan goes down by ten, it's over. Lloyd Carr isn't walking through that door. You want to talk leadership and toughness? Leadership turns a mob into an army. And Michigan is no army.

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The worst thing is I don't really feel that bad. My main problem at the moment is the fact that I have to write this column, and then somehow eight more, and analyze a team that is unlikely to go anywhere and talk about a coach who is 95% dead man walking. I bet you can't wait for "Yup, Almost Certainly Still Fired: Episode VI". Here is the otter.

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HENRI THE OTTER OF ENNUI: this does not break the record for earliest appearance

I fired off some hot takes in the stands, as did large numbers of the people around me, but once I was out of the stadium it was like "okay, now I can go do something else."

I even watched football after! A Michigan loss is supposed to be a weekend-ruining event that makes the idea of watching more football an impossibility. Now it's not a big deal, possibly because I don't recognize whatever Michigan is doing as football. I cannot be reminded of Michigan when turning on Clemson-FSU because Clemson and FSU aren't playing sludgefart.

I know this isn't an aging and maturing thing because 1) obviously and 2) I almost died just a few months ago when Kentucky hit that three-pointer. There's just nothing there to care about. So you show up, and you shrug, and you get annoyed, and then you go home. Sometimes you get wet. Meh.

It was appropriate that Hoke's downfall came amidst a biblical deluge. The Hoke era started with one against Western Michigan. The game was over when the lightning came, but I stayed. A bunch of students did, too, roaring and chanting. When the game was over the stadium was still half-full.

There was no thought of that Saturday. Everyone except the players' parents, Utah fans, and the clinically insane cleared out as soon as the stoppage was announced. Maybe half of them had already exited before the lightning hit.

When Michigan returned to play in front of the obligated and deranged, it looked like the future had finally been created.

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[Bryan Fuller]

Take the cosmic hint.

When Can We Fire This Guy Section

There is still a small (very small) chance that Michigan pulls its collective head from its collective rear and gets to 9-3, at which point a transition is probably not happening. Anything short of that and it's goodbye. Hoke is at the point where you extend or fire him and you can't extend a guy who went 8-4 in the worst Big Ten ever, presumably went 0-3 against major rivals, had at least two humiliating blowouts starring coaching incompetence.

But please don't bring up a midseason canning. Those are reserved for severe breakdowns of authority. Most importantly, firing Hoke now erases any chance there's a new athletic director by the time Michigan embarks on a coaching search.

Awards

10566201464_87532d4f9c_zJohn Beilein Being Good At Coaching Points Of The Week.

#1 Jourdan Lewis had an outstanding game, chasing things down that other people screwed up and hunting Utah wide receivers like they were weakened alpacas.

#2 Willie Henry scored Michigan's only touchdown and was part of a forceful Michigan defensive line.

#3 Devin Funchess powered through an obvious injury to bring in a number of spectacular catches and would have had an even more impactful game if Gardner was not having one of the worst games of his career.

Honorable mention: Ryan Glasgow, Frank Clark, Brennen Beyer.

Epic Double Point Standings.

7: Devin Funchess (#1, APP, #1 ND, #3 UT)
5: Jourdan Lewis (#2 MIA, #1 UT)
4: Willie Henry(#2 ND, #2 UT)
3: Derrick Green(#1 MIA)
2: Devin Gardner (#2, APP)
1: Ryan Glasgow (#3, ND), Brennen Beyer(#3 MIA)
0.5: Kyle Kalis (T3, APP), Ben Braden (T3, APP)

Trey Burke Against Kansas Of The Week.

For the single individual best moment.

FAT GUY TOUCHDOWN

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mr henry this is an internet meme it's not my fault please don't destroy me [Fuller]

For all the good it did. ESPN briefly gave Michigan 12 points they were so astounded, which should be the FAT GUY TD rule.

Honorable mention: Nope!

Epic Double Fist-Pumps Past.

AppSt: Derrick Green rumbles for 60 yards.
ND: Nothing.
MIA: Derrick Green scores a goal line touchdown without being so much as touched.
Utah: Willie Henry FAT GUY TOUCHDOWN.

imageMARCUS HALL EPIC DOUBLE BIRD OF THE WEEK.

Worst. Event. Ever. This Week.

Miami takes back a punt 66 yards after Michigan obliges with a line drive punt and two gunners. Oh, and they only put ten guys on the field.

Honorable mention: Interceptions. Fumbles. Hellacious rain. Everything.

PREVIOUS EPBs

AppSt: Devin Gardner dares to throw an incomplete pass.
ND: Countess nowhere to be found on fourth and three.
Miami: You did what to Funchess now when?
Utah: lol ask Brady about punt formations again

[After the JUMP: woo! naw just kiddin'.]

Offense

Thing you'll remember not very fondly about the Hoke Era #1: Quarterback handling. Denard Robinson regressed. Devin Gardner appears to be regressing. Their random guess at a quarterback their first year turned out to be a bad idea, and then they skipped a quarterback the next year. Shane Morris is still just a sophomore but early returns are alarming, and he's not a redshirt freshman because of the baffling decision to not take a QB the year before him.

The most important position on the field was fobbed off to a guy with a negative track record, who proceeded to do what his track record always said he would.

Thing you'll remember not very fondly about the Hoke Era #2: "trying" to come back into a game by huddling with ten minutes left. Michigan literally huddled with ten minutes left down 16 points, twice in a row. On plays where they did not huddle, Morris was still snapping the ball with 8 or 10 seconds on the playclock. Tempo has always been a disaster under Hoke, and always will be. This goes well beyond run of the mill dinosaur ball into Ferentz-level clock atrocity.

But they can sneak it now. Wave your tiny flags.

Thing you'll remember not very fondly about the Hoke Era #3: the f-ing punting. But I already addressed that and this is the offense section.

Thing you'll remember not very fondly about the Hoke Era #4: allergy to sense. Michigan kept checking whether Denard Robinson was a pro-style quarterback, found out the answer was still GOD NO WHY EVEN ASK THIS, and then resumed grudgingly deploying him on the ground for ludicrous efficiency. Presented with even the vaguest semblance of a pro-style guy they have just about completely excised the idea of a quarterback run. When they have Devin Gardner.

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juuuuuust a bit outside [Fuller]

No defense this time. Gardner was terrible. This throw to Funchess got criticized because he was "triple covered" but the play was there to be made; Funchess caught a ball way behind him only to see a defensive back a couple yards out of position rake it out. That was typical. Gardner missed, and kept missing, and continued to miss.

Sometimes he made bad decisions, like on the interception that sealed his benching. Mostly was just missing his guys. I know that some folks on twitter and Spielman took shots at Funchess on the slant interception that he tried to grab with one hand, but even if you think his effort there was substandard the fact remains that a slant was well outside of the comfortable catching radius of the biggest wide receiver in the country. A slant. That is a simple throw to put on the guy's numbers and it was botched.

Ace and Nick Baumgardner have both suggested that he was so short and wobbly with his throws that they wouldn't be surprised if Gardner was hurt in some way. I'll have to take a look myself. In the absence of evidence that will not be forthcoming the obvious conclusion is that Gardner just sucked. I don't know man. You expect people to progress, and they certainly do on the defensive line. Other places not so much. The Peter Principle is real.

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[Fuller]

Not the answer. Shane Morris came in and looked like a true sophomore who missed his senior year of high school and spent his freshman year getting anti-coaching. He is not the answer right now; he's going to have to be next year but one of the reasons we have been downplaying the idea that Morris would replace Gardner is that he is even more turnover-prone. He's your only backup QB who's even vaguely viable this year. Good planning.

Offensive line: a step back. This game felt a lot different than the Notre Dame game, where holes were there to be had. In this one it seemed like there was a winged helmet chasing a Ute back to the backs or QB, and that when Michigan was getting pounded at the line it was because there wasn't anything there.

Defense

WELP. They had one bad drive to start the second half and were otherwise somewhere between great and very good, again holding an opponent under 300 yards only to end up on the wrong side of a blowout.

You could argue that the defensive performance in the Notre Dame game was deceptive because the game got out of hand by halftime; that is not an argument you can apply here. The defense gave up a net 12 points, and three of those came on a 14-yard drive. That is an outstanding performance.

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[Fuller]

Hello Mr. Lewis. Jourdan Lewis had a breakout game, tracking down the Utah screen that was the large bulk of their first-half production and single-handedly saving four points. He was over the top of all attempted fade routes even though he was going up against a couple of good wideouts, and he had a couple of pass breakups. It was a statement outing. He should be a starter until that proves to be a mirage, if in fact it ever does.

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Glasgow jammin' things up real good [Fuller]

Ryan Glasgow's probably just good. Utah returned their lead back, QB, and three OL from a high-quality rushing offense that averaged 5 yards an attempt last year; Michigan held them to 3.3 even after you remove sacks. This is a team effort of course but it all starts with the nose tackle and there is a reason Glasgow is fending off all challengers.

Safety issues. Michigan's sole touchdown ceded came on a mesh route on which no one was particularly close to Utah's best receiver. That felt like a safety issue with the corners bailing deep, and Michigan was down to Jeremy Clark and Dymonte Thomas at that point—the only scholarship safeties on the roster. Thomas has supposedly been erratic in practice and I wonder if forcing him into action was the cause of some of those problems.

But yes also factor that in to the defensive performance: Michigan is down their best safety while giving up 12 net points.

Ross reclaims his job. Have to wonder what the coaching staff saw in Royce Jenkins-Stone that caused them to make a switch at the SAM spot; RJS blew a couple plays against Miami in his first extended playing time and Ross made a couple against Utah.

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[Fuller]

They were a little fortunate. Michigan got RPSed hard on the above wheel route that featured Mario Ojemudia making a valiant but futile attempt to cover a 30-yard wheel route. The ball would zip through the receivers' hands. That'll happen.

SIDE NOTE: check the attendance in the upper section above. There's another three sections to the left of your picture that were similarly empty.

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Best And Worst:

Worst-est:  This is Michigan Football

For Dave Brandon and Brady Hoke, this is the perfect embodiment of football.  No, not the losses, but that's secondary.  To both of them, this brand of Michigan football is a perverse homage to a bygone era in football when men were men and you won because of grit and heart and having institutional advantages over smaller programs due to years of recruiting tactics, demographics, and inertia.  It's stupid punting formations, always huddling without any sense of urgency, the 100k attendance record, and wringing every last possible dollar out of a fanbase that for decades was all too happy to do so if you stroked its ego and won 8 or more games a year.  The Michigan that we all see on the field isn't what most of us want, but it's what the hive mind in Schembechler Hall thinks is good for business in Ann Arbor, and so nobody with the power to change it wants to right the boat.  And that's a f'ing tragedy, because the lights are going out and Jack ain't coming to put UM on a door until the rescue party arrives.

Michigan isn't what it was, and "what it was" was never how a certain subset of the fanbase, including apparently this administration, remembers it.  I know it is blasphemy to question the "fabled" history of UM football, but since the 1940s Michigan has been the definition of a high-level "plugger", the type of team that won games by showing up and beating the teams they should and losing to the teams they should by following a simple script.  And yet as the game kept changing, Michigan remained its anachronistic self, buffered somewhat by this conference's stupidity-sealed bubble that talks about competing nationally while the University of Kentucky out-recruits everyone not named Michigan, OSU, or Nebraska and hiring every mediocre MAC coach with a pulse while the rest of college football laughs and points.

Inside The Box Score relates things a nine year old said during the game:

"That doesn't help at all."
* Referring to Nussmeier's decision to run the ball on 2nd and 22. The play gained zero yards. BRING BACK BORGES! (/ducks for cover.)

"Another huddle? Really?"
* Seriously, my son actually said that. I don't think he reads MGoBlog, and I hadn't said anything about tempo or huddling. So if a 9-year old can watch Utah succeeding with pace, watch Michigan plodding along, and gets exasperated at the huddling, why can't Brady figure this out?

jhackney has a column as well:

Tonight, The Utes brought a thorough spiritual cleansing to Ann Arbor in unusual style.

Instead of arid air or peep stones, They brought a torrential downpour that cleaned out the already depopulated Big House and a long moment of clarity for Michigan, its coaches, and fans. Shortly after Hoke and Mattison got done arguing over who executed getting off the field least, the team was in the locker room for over an hour to sit there and realized that they were down 16 points to a vastly mediocre team.

Elsewhere

Need a pick-me-up?

HSR on the Mandate of Heaven:


I think it's very hard to see positives in a loss when you're soaking wet.  It's even harder when you misplace your keys for 45 minutes in the Liberty Square parking structure*.  But, at some point, when in the cold and the wet, you realize that the team you love is in a treadmill of despair and ineptitude, and what's worse, you don't see a way out.

The graphic above is a simplified version of the dynastic cycle as understood in ancient China.  When you teach World History, you become very familiar with imperial decline.  Football empires are not that different.  You change a few words in that graphic, and well, it's very clear that it can apply to college football programs as well.

Nussmeter didn't go so well. MVictors with a timely Bump Elliott interview. Sap's Decals:

Devin Funchess – There is an old Canadian Hockey saying about getting or giving a “Hotel Dieu Pass” to or from one of your teammates. That means your inaccurate pass caused one of your teammates to get laid out and lit up, to the point where they have to be taken off on a stretcher and taken to the local hospital. (Hotel Dieu is a common Canadian Hospital name.)

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What that pass did, aside from Funchess taking a wicked shot, was jack up Utah even more. When you get a freebie to lay out one of the stars from the other team, you have just incited the feeding-frenzy to begin. So while it was just one incomplete pass, it was MUCH more than that. It was Utah’s cue to come after Michigan for more. I commend Funchess for staying in the game and making two huge catches after that hit. Devin Gardner, you owe Funchess a dinner, and an apology.

Compare and contrast Nebraska enthusiasm to Michigan.

Kickoff at Michigan:

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Those are not students above the concourse, those are the ex-student tickets that Brandon is trying to sell for any price.

MGoVideo:

The saddest thing on Saturday wasn’t anything that happened on the field. It was the Michigan sideline. I didn’t mind Hoke and Mattison going at it. I was glad to see them both fired up. But the players on the sideline all looked like they just wanted to go home. They looked like they’d quit. Then the rain came and 100,000-ish quit. In the end, some say the band played their full postgame show in an empty stadium, but nobody knows for sure.

It wasn’t that long ago that the chance of getting struck by lightning while watching Michigan football seemed, well, fair enough. Lately, it isn’t worth the risk.

Touch The Banner:

Are injuries a problem? I feel like injuries are a problem. I know every team goes through injuries, but it seems that Michigan's star player(s) get hurt every year. Devin Funchess got hurt in the second game and was still limping around in this one with an ankle injury that may linger for a while. Starting tight end Jake Butt is playing less than the ideal number of snaps because of his ACL recovery. Jabrill Peppers got hurt in week one, missed the Notre Dame game, and seemed to disappear for a stretch this game. Starting cornerback Raymon Taylor got hurt against the Fighting Irish and has yet to return. Both guys who were presumed to start at safety - Jarrod Wilson and Delano Hill - have missed extended time due to injuries. "Starting" linebacker Desmond Morgan has missed the last couple games, too. I would not say that the Wolverines have been devastated by injuries, but they aren't at full speed, either.

Mattison and Hoke had it out late in the first half. The issue:

There stood Brady Hoke, his arms folded and nearly 10 yards away from defensive coordinator Greg Mattison. They both looked away as if they were high school students who wanted nothing to do with each other.

The Michigan head coach had pulled Mattison back before he yelled, “get off the f-----g field” and the pair argued with each other.

He called it a “discussion,” but that’s probably not what having dinner looks like.

Cumong man:

Numbers: Michigan now 4-8 in last 12 games, outscored by 50 points in first half of 8 losses

Little things.

Comments

ann.arbor.lover

September 22nd, 2014 at 4:05 PM ^

It is almost poetic that Hoke's tenure would begin with a giant thunderstorm, and then end in an even more massive deluge. Already a great script for a saga, a historic epic, or whatever.

Thanks, Brian, for nailing this.

ish

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:26 PM ^

if we miraculously go 9-3, i would still fire hoke.  i hope there's a behind the scenes search for a new AD going on now.  so we can fire brandon and hoke, immediately have a new AD and start the head coach search without delay. 

one point re a midseason fire - i disagree with you, brian, under certain circumstances.  for instance, if they're not going to fire brandon and they can get lloyd to be the interim coach for the remainder of the year, i would fire hoke now.  that way we would get a head start on all other teams looking for coaches. 

Elwood

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:27 PM ^

If the players have given up then you should fire midseason.

The recruiting damage would be minimal due to the small class and the AD can start the search early. Also, this team is loaded with talent for the next coach.

Hoke should be fired regardless of our final record. The punt ignorance, the tempo ignorance, poor offensive coaching decisions, poor personal handling (countess on KO, Funchess at TE for too long, Gardener at WR, no backup QB when denard went down), conditioning/injury issues and the lack of energy from the players are on him. Not firing midseason is a waste of a season.

GoBLUinTX

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:44 PM ^

Hoke may make coaching decisions such as scheme, tempo, and positions, but that isn't the problem and never has been.  The problem is far more fundemental than that, still Hoke is at the center of the problem.  For whatever reason, Hoke is not demanding and receiving the attention to detail he keeps espousing.  He keeps telling us, the other coaches keep telling us, and the players keep telling us, that it is the little things that are preventing them from excelling.  Little things like only 10 players on the field for the punt...that's a symptom of the real problem, not because he choses to run a style of punting contrary to the MGOBLOG intelligentsia.  Only having 10 players on the field is a symptom of not taking care of the little things.  

Wiser men than I have said, "Take care of the little things and the big things will take of themselves."  The little things aren't being taken care of, so say them all, therefore the big things don't have a chance to take care of themselves.

Hoke's a good guy, Hokes a "father figure", and it is also now readily apparent that he's not a disciplinarian, he's not a head coach.

umumum

September 22nd, 2014 at 1:43 PM ^

as a manager--leaving the position coaches and coordinators to do their thing.  And that can work.  But the consistent disorganization and lack of player (or coach) urgency are manager responsibilities.  Hoke is not a good manager.  He is a position coach--where he'll likely succeed again.

BlueLikeJazz

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:47 PM ^

The only hope I have is that the small recruiting class means there won't be too much recruiting damage, and the loads of talent on this team would have to be attractive to a decent coach.

Of course, that hope is counterbalanced by my lack of faith in Dave Brandon to conduct a competent coaching search.

I Like Burgers

September 22nd, 2014 at 1:37 PM ^

I hoenstly don't think there would be much of a difference between a Hoke coached team this season and an interim coached team.  Say you tag Mattison as interim.  The defense is still the best part of the team and will play lights out for him.  So that part doesn't change.

And given a little more freedom and some fire under their ass, maybe the offense gets it together.  A firing would mitigate some of the remaining loses, and if they win it would give some positive momentum heading into next season.

ijohnb

September 22nd, 2014 at 1:56 PM ^

he will be fired this week.  I don't think the decision has been made yet but I think it will be.  It would be an act of mercy at this point and would probably get some people in the stands for the remainder of the season.  It would also take some pressure off the players.  They all look like they are individually playing "for his job" right now and they are overwhelmed by it.  I think he will resign or be fired by the time the team takes the field against Minnesota.

Tozmo

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:28 PM ^

Brian and the brain trust for AD.

Bring back the stadium experience I remember.

As for the coach/team/stuff: third time's a charm, right? RR -> Hoke -> Bo 2.0

Dubs

September 22nd, 2014 at 2:10 PM ^

Not to be a dick, but I think that mindset is part of the issue:  we shouldn't be looking to find our next Bo.  We can never replace Bo, and we will never replace Bo.  That era has passed, and college football's landscape is nothing what it used to be.  I think our beloved AD and coach have become so captivated by the rear-view mirror, that they're completely ignoring the fact that we are going 35 mph in a 70.

What we should be looking for is the next great coach...not just the next great "Michigan Man," whatever definition you want to put next to that.  I want someone who is going to bring that modern edge back to the program.  Say what you will about RichRod, but I always got pretty damn excited when the offense took the field, because it was going to be a show and put up 30-40.  The problem was, the defense gave up 40-50.

But where do we go?  Where are the exciting new minds/coaches/coordinators?  Many want Harbaugh (and I would be one of them), but would we simply be looking for that "Relic of Bo?"  

If and when this transition does happen, we will have done nothing but rev our engine, only to see that we're still in the garage choking on our own exhaust because we are too proud of our vintage [insert American muscle car here] that has taken us literally nowhere.

Dubs

September 22nd, 2014 at 6:12 PM ^

Sure, I probably did.  But after listening to fans gripe and complain since Lloyd stepped down about finding the "next Bo" and "getting a Michigan Man," I worry whether Michigan will take that next step in becoming a 21st century program.  They're likely the same folks who constantly call/called for Denard/Gardner to be replaced, because they want the big ol gunslinger under center...but that's another debate/issue.

It's not a coincidence that we have our own little self depreciating quips like "get off my lawn" and "A Michigan Man [fill in the blank]."  It's because they're largely true: that much of the fan base has a vision of the program of what it USED to be, and anything that departs from that notion is greeted with "rabble rabble rabble!"  Does EVERYTHING need to change?  No (see uniforms).  But you got to throw some innovation in there somewhere.

Perhaps it's apples and oranges, but look at the elite programs and recent title contenders over the past decade:  USC, OSU, Alabama, LSU, Oregon, Auburn, Florida St., Florida, or hell, even Texas...and you could argue that all have undergone some sort of facelift or program modernization during that time period, mostly coaching philosophy and/or gameday experience.  Did those programs have a legendary coach like Bo?  Woody, Bear, Bowden are just a few.  But I never recall their fanbases conducting coaching searches based on a candidates' similarity to a legend.  Being from Columbus, and witnessing two coaching searches, I don't think I heard hardly any fans say "well, is he like Woody?" or "will he lead our program like Woody did?"  Sure it's a bad comparision, but ultimately OSU fans, as insane as rabid as their fanbase is, probably care more about on field results more than a coaches ability to throw a yard marker or punch an opposing player in the throat.

Yes, Michigan is unique because it is an exceptional academic university, and they take great pride in that, whereas the other programs mentioned above would gladly take a slap on the wrist from the NCAA or allow their APR to slip if that meant making it to a title or beating a hated rival.  When Michigan got in trouble with the NCAA years ago, the fanbase was largely embarrassed because they took pride in their squeaky clean reputation.  If other elite programs get in trouble, you hear the "everyone does it!" excuse, instead.

In short, I guess I'm just too damn tired of hearing the "but this is Michigan" retort to any new ideas or changes.  And it depresses the shit out of me that I am becoming numb to this mediocrity.  I want to wake up on Saturdays like a kid on Christmas, again.  And I don't really mind how that happens (apart from making our uniforms look like they were designed by Lisa Frank).

Apologies for the rant...

msoccer10

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:28 PM ^

I am trying to figure out how much Hoke is involved in the offense. He has said "We want to be a play action team". 

Last year, Borges would run under center play action on 3rd and more than ten all the time. I thought it was because he was a fool. But now I see Nussmeir doing that same shit, and he is supposed to be a hotshot coordinator on his way to being a head coach. 

So, is that Hoke mandating the stupidity? No one thinks you are going to run it on 3rd and 22, so why go under center and play action. Its a waste time and motion that hurts the qb. 

I hope the offense improves as the year goes on because the best hire available to me seems to be Nussmeir. I want to blame Hoke because I can't believe that our players are that bad and the only other consistent presence is him.

Space Coyote

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:41 PM ^

Offenses do that all the time. They have plays that they rep, those plays have a timing to them and a drop to them and the routes break based on that timing. If the timing of the routes for the play they want to run (say a play that needs to pick up 15-20 yards) is attached to PA, they call that play. They don't call the play and then say "sans PA" because that would throw the timing off for the QB on his drop and when he makes it through his progressions and things of that nature.

Now, they probably won't be hard fakes. They aren't looking to move the defense with these fakes. They are looking to freeze the defense momentarily and maintain their timing. That should, theoretically, get the QB's head to the defense quicker while maintaining the timing of the play and should provide a little more space to hit receivers breaking on routes 15-20 yards down field between the safety and LB level.

GoBLUinTX

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:51 PM ^

Though I'd be the first to concede I could be totally off base, but it appears to me that Gardner is overselling the PA.  The plan is for a momentary freeze of the D, but it looks like Gardner is expending much more than a moment selling the run.  As said, I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like.

Preacher Mike

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:52 PM ^

Nobody is freezing or respecting in anywya a PA fake on 3rd and 22. It's just stupid. If you need time to set up a 20 yard play downfield, you can use lots of other options to buy time: shtogun, an effective pump fake, a rollout (especially good seeing as Gardner is your QB) A PA fake on 3rd and 22 is simply a distraction for Gardner that takes his eys off what is developing down field. It is worthless.

Preacher Mike

September 22nd, 2014 at 1:46 PM ^

The question remains, though, why don't we have any better downfield plays that use rollouts or shotgun, or something that would let Gardner keep his eyes downfield and give him the time he needs to make a play. He is not a pocket passer, and he does not process information quickly. We have no plays that play to his strengths, or the O-lines strengths for that matter, when we need big yardage.

evenyoubrutus

September 22nd, 2014 at 1:57 PM ^

Thank you.  I have felt for a while like Hoke lets his assistants do the X's & O's, but tries to add in his own little "personal touch."  Like slamming Toussaint into a brick wall time after time against PSU last year.  These little personal touches throw off the whole show.  Hoke is so hell-bent on resurrecting the 1990's that he loses sight of how to win in today's game.  

NoVaWolverine

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:33 PM ^

Just asking for the sake of completing the historical record for the last crappy 8 years of Michigan football. I'd nominate J.T. Floyd looking totally lost in coverage in the 2010 Penn St. game, with Roy Roundtree fumbling just short of the goal-line after that long catch-and-run in 2009 a distant second.

BIGBLUEWORLD

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:34 PM ^

Thanks for laying it on the line.

Postmortem: Coach Hoke came on board at a rough time, and righted the ship.  His passion, integrity and conviction set the foundation for Michigan to once again become a winning football program.  I appreciate and respect that.

When our new coach arrives, and there is a progression of events trending towards John Harbaugh, we're ready to make good things happen. 

jabberwock

September 22nd, 2014 at 1:53 PM ^

Does this ship feel fucking "righted" right now?

Hoke came in, coasted to a great record with the previous coaches players and has been trending downhill ever since.  I do give full credit to him & Mattison (with DB's $$$ hand) for helping improve the defense.

Hokes recruiting has been off-charts-impressive (particularly given the W-L record) but what has he developed them into yet other than the current train wreck. . .

Sure, I can see Dave Brandon press releasing that garbage , but I don't know anyone who'd actually beleive it.

Brian's Titanic imagery is a far better ship analogy.  Hoke did safely steer us away from the shallow reef . . . directly into the iceberg.

Michighen

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:33 PM ^

I just hate the thought that when Hoke gets fired it will at least another 3-4 years until we are any good and that is only if the right guy is hired.  There is no guarantee of that........

Yinka Double Dare

September 22nd, 2014 at 1:40 PM ^

These two changes have been such big changes in style that I thought 3 or 4 years was warranted. RR had a pretty sizeable talent deficit to try to dig out of along with a wholesale change of the offense. Hoke's staff had some talent issues to deal with in certain important spots and again, a big change in offense. Talent issues take time, because recruiting can take a few years. You can't magically make upper class offensive lineman just appear.

However, there's no reason if Michigan hires a guy who can use the talent on hand on offense (be it pro-style or passing spread, I think either can work with what we've got with the right guy) that this team can't be good in a hurry. There's depth and there's talent. Even if Hoke and his staff hasn't been able to get coach it up, he's really done a good job bringing the talent level back up. 

Shop Smart Sho…

September 22nd, 2014 at 1:51 PM ^

I fail to understand why people think that the talent on hand can only run the system that Hoke wants when it comes to a coaching change.  The only thing they couldn't run is a spread to run system.  A passing spread and a "pro-style" offense are not all that different.  The skill position players should be easily adaptable, aside from the FBs and some of the TEs.  But honestly, is anyone going to be upset if Houma, Heitzman, and Williams don't see the field on offense anymore?

Unless they switch to a 3-4 on defense, they've got all of the pieces on that side of the ball to continue and even possibly improve. (Please hire a CB/S coach who knows the position.)

evenyoubrutus

September 22nd, 2014 at 2:02 PM ^

That doesn't have to be the case.  Next year, assuming there is little-to-no attrition, this is a Big Ten caliber roster (plus having OSU/MSU at home helps a lot).  Meyer walked into a loadded roster and started 24-0.  I think we have been psychologically damaged by what happened after Carr retired. the Rodriguez thing was a combination of unusual circumstances that were all negative, that resulted in

J.Madrox

September 22nd, 2014 at 2:06 PM ^

I am not opposed to making fun of other teams when it is warranted. I laughed when I saw USC lose to Boston College and when Texas got trucked at home by BYU. I am also all for making fun of Urban Meyer's impending "health issues" if OSU continues to struggle. But if you are going to do it, lets come up with something a little better than Suckeye, that term is just as bad as all the OSU and MSU fans who insist on calling us scUM. Lets try to be better than that around here.

mjf34g

September 22nd, 2014 at 3:58 PM ^

Auburn was 3-9 overall and 0-8 in the SEC in 2012. They hired Gus Malzahn and in 2013 they were 12-2 overall and 7-1 in the SEC.

Right coach and good personall and thats what happens. Talent is here but develpoing that talent and putting them in a position to succeed is not.

Just a question in light of this debacle and more or less laying the Hoke hire at Brandons and Carrs feet. If you were the AD and were recieving the resumes of potential coaching hires at M what exactly stood out from BH's resume? He had TWO winning seasons at minor programs in I believe 12 years as an HC. Maybe the fact that he was a DL ine coach at M but that the ONLY thing that was in his favor to get this job. And if in fact as a lot of people try to rationalize that this is one of the premier jobs in the country why in the hell would he be the choice and then on top of everthing pay him $4.5 mil like hes one of the top ten coaches in the country! If that fact alone isn't enough to get Brandons head on a spike then the whole administration at M is incompentent. I'll ask one other thing to the Hoke apologists. Where would you rank BH amongist the other Big 10 coaches?

Yinka Double Dare

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:34 PM ^

Well if the team isn't going to be great, at least they can sell the classic, timeless, Michigan gameday atmosphere... wait, nope, the department has fucked that up too, and expects you to pay more for the privilege.