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Brian

9/20/2014 – Michigan 10, Utah 26 – 2-2

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We have a grainy screenshot that symbolizes the demise of the Carr era. It's a zone stretch against Ohio State on which every Buckeye has slashed through the Michigan line.

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Michigan would trundle to fewer than 100 yards of total offense. Chad Henne's shoulder was separated and he was still the best available option because the only other was a freshman version of Ryan Mallett who fumbled 20% of the under-center snaps he took and got in screaming matches on the sideline. That's because the quarterbacks recruited after Chad Henne were Jason Forcier and David Cone.

By the time that Ohio State game rolled around Michigan had desperately talked Alex Mitchell out of retirement so they could start him. In that context that shot is barely surprising. And then Carr went out and beat Tim Tebow, because nobody got off the mat like Lloyd Carr.

We have just received the grainy screenshot that will symbolize the demise of the Hoke era.

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As you've no doubt screamed into a pillow about already, there are ten men on the field as Utah returns a punt for a touchdown. I'm not sure that even matters since two of them are within 30 yards of the guy when he catches the ball.

This site has been complaining about the punting since Hoke's hire, and it has cost Michigan dearly in two losses—Ace Sanders also returned a punt for a touchdown in South Carolina's last-gasp Outback win—and seen Michigan dawdle at the bottom of punt return yards ceded the last two years.

Worse than the yards given up has been Brady Hoke's approach when challenged about it. Never has he given a justification that's even remotely plausible. Once he said he wasn't comfortable with it. At the time I said this was a crappy answer, and it remains a crappy answer:

MGoFollowup: What’s your opinion of the spread punt formation vs. the traditional punt formation?

“Uh, we don’t use it.”

MGoFollowup: Is there a rationale for that?

“I think, you know … I’m more comfortable with what we use. That’s the rationale.”

When pressed a couple weeks ago he said "I don't want to talk about it."

As we get more data about Brady Hoke's tenure that seems less like an isolated crappy answer than the whole damn thing. Anybody with a spreadsheet and an ability to tell up from down could have put compelling evidence of the spread punt's efficacy in front of Hoke's face. Maybe they did.

It wouldn't have mattered. Brady Hoke isn't defending it, so you can't argue back. "We don't do it because we don't do it" is an unassailable position. It is not a rationale.

So it goes. Michigan has settled into a pattern of doing nonsense things, from everything on offense last year to the punting to their continuing, shocking inability to go faster than a waddle. That stat from last week about how Michigan was faster than only Army amongst D-I teams is astounding. Michigan had spent an entire half down three scores, and their tempo was still nationally worst. These things all come from the head coach.

When Michigan goes down by ten, it's over. Lloyd Carr isn't walking through that door. You want to talk leadership and toughness? Leadership turns a mob into an army. And Michigan is no army.

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The worst thing is I don't really feel that bad. My main problem at the moment is the fact that I have to write this column, and then somehow eight more, and analyze a team that is unlikely to go anywhere and talk about a coach who is 95% dead man walking. I bet you can't wait for "Yup, Almost Certainly Still Fired: Episode VI". Here is the otter.

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HENRI THE OTTER OF ENNUI: this does not break the record for earliest appearance

I fired off some hot takes in the stands, as did large numbers of the people around me, but once I was out of the stadium it was like "okay, now I can go do something else."

I even watched football after! A Michigan loss is supposed to be a weekend-ruining event that makes the idea of watching more football an impossibility. Now it's not a big deal, possibly because I don't recognize whatever Michigan is doing as football. I cannot be reminded of Michigan when turning on Clemson-FSU because Clemson and FSU aren't playing sludgefart.

I know this isn't an aging and maturing thing because 1) obviously and 2) I almost died just a few months ago when Kentucky hit that three-pointer. There's just nothing there to care about. So you show up, and you shrug, and you get annoyed, and then you go home. Sometimes you get wet. Meh.

It was appropriate that Hoke's downfall came amidst a biblical deluge. The Hoke era started with one against Western Michigan. The game was over when the lightning came, but I stayed. A bunch of students did, too, roaring and chanting. When the game was over the stadium was still half-full.

There was no thought of that Saturday. Everyone except the players' parents, Utah fans, and the clinically insane cleared out as soon as the stoppage was announced. Maybe half of them had already exited before the lightning hit.

When Michigan returned to play in front of the obligated and deranged, it looked like the future had finally been created.

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[Bryan Fuller]

Take the cosmic hint.

When Can We Fire This Guy Section

There is still a small (very small) chance that Michigan pulls its collective head from its collective rear and gets to 9-3, at which point a transition is probably not happening. Anything short of that and it's goodbye. Hoke is at the point where you extend or fire him and you can't extend a guy who went 8-4 in the worst Big Ten ever, presumably went 0-3 against major rivals, had at least two humiliating blowouts starring coaching incompetence.

But please don't bring up a midseason canning. Those are reserved for severe breakdowns of authority. Most importantly, firing Hoke now erases any chance there's a new athletic director by the time Michigan embarks on a coaching search.

Awards

10566201464_87532d4f9c_zJohn Beilein Being Good At Coaching Points Of The Week.

#1 Jourdan Lewis had an outstanding game, chasing things down that other people screwed up and hunting Utah wide receivers like they were weakened alpacas.

#2 Willie Henry scored Michigan's only touchdown and was part of a forceful Michigan defensive line.

#3 Devin Funchess powered through an obvious injury to bring in a number of spectacular catches and would have had an even more impactful game if Gardner was not having one of the worst games of his career.

Honorable mention: Ryan Glasgow, Frank Clark, Brennen Beyer.

Epic Double Point Standings.

7: Devin Funchess (#1, APP, #1 ND, #3 UT)
5: Jourdan Lewis (#2 MIA, #1 UT)
4: Willie Henry(#2 ND, #2 UT)
3: Derrick Green(#1 MIA)
2: Devin Gardner (#2, APP)
1: Ryan Glasgow (#3, ND), Brennen Beyer(#3 MIA)
0.5: Kyle Kalis (T3, APP), Ben Braden (T3, APP)

Trey Burke Against Kansas Of The Week.

For the single individual best moment.

FAT GUY TOUCHDOWN

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mr henry this is an internet meme it's not my fault please don't destroy me [Fuller]

For all the good it did. ESPN briefly gave Michigan 12 points they were so astounded, which should be the FAT GUY TD rule.

Honorable mention: Nope!

Epic Double Fist-Pumps Past.

AppSt: Derrick Green rumbles for 60 yards.
ND: Nothing.
MIA: Derrick Green scores a goal line touchdown without being so much as touched.
Utah: Willie Henry FAT GUY TOUCHDOWN.

imageMARCUS HALL EPIC DOUBLE BIRD OF THE WEEK.

Worst. Event. Ever. This Week.

Miami takes back a punt 66 yards after Michigan obliges with a line drive punt and two gunners. Oh, and they only put ten guys on the field.

Honorable mention: Interceptions. Fumbles. Hellacious rain. Everything.

PREVIOUS EPBs

AppSt: Devin Gardner dares to throw an incomplete pass.
ND: Countess nowhere to be found on fourth and three.
Miami: You did what to Funchess now when?
Utah: lol ask Brady about punt formations again

[After the JUMP: woo! naw just kiddin'.]

Offense

Thing you'll remember not very fondly about the Hoke Era #1: Quarterback handling. Denard Robinson regressed. Devin Gardner appears to be regressing. Their random guess at a quarterback their first year turned out to be a bad idea, and then they skipped a quarterback the next year. Shane Morris is still just a sophomore but early returns are alarming, and he's not a redshirt freshman because of the baffling decision to not take a QB the year before him.

The most important position on the field was fobbed off to a guy with a negative track record, who proceeded to do what his track record always said he would.

Thing you'll remember not very fondly about the Hoke Era #2: "trying" to come back into a game by huddling with ten minutes left. Michigan literally huddled with ten minutes left down 16 points, twice in a row. On plays where they did not huddle, Morris was still snapping the ball with 8 or 10 seconds on the playclock. Tempo has always been a disaster under Hoke, and always will be. This goes well beyond run of the mill dinosaur ball into Ferentz-level clock atrocity.

But they can sneak it now. Wave your tiny flags.

Thing you'll remember not very fondly about the Hoke Era #3: the f-ing punting. But I already addressed that and this is the offense section.

Thing you'll remember not very fondly about the Hoke Era #4: allergy to sense. Michigan kept checking whether Denard Robinson was a pro-style quarterback, found out the answer was still GOD NO WHY EVEN ASK THIS, and then resumed grudgingly deploying him on the ground for ludicrous efficiency. Presented with even the vaguest semblance of a pro-style guy they have just about completely excised the idea of a quarterback run. When they have Devin Gardner.

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juuuuuust a bit outside [Fuller]

No defense this time. Gardner was terrible. This throw to Funchess got criticized because he was "triple covered" but the play was there to be made; Funchess caught a ball way behind him only to see a defensive back a couple yards out of position rake it out. That was typical. Gardner missed, and kept missing, and continued to miss.

Sometimes he made bad decisions, like on the interception that sealed his benching. Mostly was just missing his guys. I know that some folks on twitter and Spielman took shots at Funchess on the slant interception that he tried to grab with one hand, but even if you think his effort there was substandard the fact remains that a slant was well outside of the comfortable catching radius of the biggest wide receiver in the country. A slant. That is a simple throw to put on the guy's numbers and it was botched.

Ace and Nick Baumgardner have both suggested that he was so short and wobbly with his throws that they wouldn't be surprised if Gardner was hurt in some way. I'll have to take a look myself. In the absence of evidence that will not be forthcoming the obvious conclusion is that Gardner just sucked. I don't know man. You expect people to progress, and they certainly do on the defensive line. Other places not so much. The Peter Principle is real.

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[Fuller]

Not the answer. Shane Morris came in and looked like a true sophomore who missed his senior year of high school and spent his freshman year getting anti-coaching. He is not the answer right now; he's going to have to be next year but one of the reasons we have been downplaying the idea that Morris would replace Gardner is that he is even more turnover-prone. He's your only backup QB who's even vaguely viable this year. Good planning.

Offensive line: a step back. This game felt a lot different than the Notre Dame game, where holes were there to be had. In this one it seemed like there was a winged helmet chasing a Ute back to the backs or QB, and that when Michigan was getting pounded at the line it was because there wasn't anything there.

Defense

WELP. They had one bad drive to start the second half and were otherwise somewhere between great and very good, again holding an opponent under 300 yards only to end up on the wrong side of a blowout.

You could argue that the defensive performance in the Notre Dame game was deceptive because the game got out of hand by halftime; that is not an argument you can apply here. The defense gave up a net 12 points, and three of those came on a 14-yard drive. That is an outstanding performance.

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[Fuller]

Hello Mr. Lewis. Jourdan Lewis had a breakout game, tracking down the Utah screen that was the large bulk of their first-half production and single-handedly saving four points. He was over the top of all attempted fade routes even though he was going up against a couple of good wideouts, and he had a couple of pass breakups. It was a statement outing. He should be a starter until that proves to be a mirage, if in fact it ever does.

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Glasgow jammin' things up real good [Fuller]

Ryan Glasgow's probably just good. Utah returned their lead back, QB, and three OL from a high-quality rushing offense that averaged 5 yards an attempt last year; Michigan held them to 3.3 even after you remove sacks. This is a team effort of course but it all starts with the nose tackle and there is a reason Glasgow is fending off all challengers.

Safety issues. Michigan's sole touchdown ceded came on a mesh route on which no one was particularly close to Utah's best receiver. That felt like a safety issue with the corners bailing deep, and Michigan was down to Jeremy Clark and Dymonte Thomas at that point—the only scholarship safeties on the roster. Thomas has supposedly been erratic in practice and I wonder if forcing him into action was the cause of some of those problems.

But yes also factor that in to the defensive performance: Michigan is down their best safety while giving up 12 net points.

Ross reclaims his job. Have to wonder what the coaching staff saw in Royce Jenkins-Stone that caused them to make a switch at the SAM spot; RJS blew a couple plays against Miami in his first extended playing time and Ross made a couple against Utah.

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[Fuller]

They were a little fortunate. Michigan got RPSed hard on the above wheel route that featured Mario Ojemudia making a valiant but futile attempt to cover a 30-yard wheel route. The ball would zip through the receivers' hands. That'll happen.

SIDE NOTE: check the attendance in the upper section above. There's another three sections to the left of your picture that were similarly empty.

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Best And Worst:

Worst-est:  This is Michigan Football

For Dave Brandon and Brady Hoke, this is the perfect embodiment of football.  No, not the losses, but that's secondary.  To both of them, this brand of Michigan football is a perverse homage to a bygone era in football when men were men and you won because of grit and heart and having institutional advantages over smaller programs due to years of recruiting tactics, demographics, and inertia.  It's stupid punting formations, always huddling without any sense of urgency, the 100k attendance record, and wringing every last possible dollar out of a fanbase that for decades was all too happy to do so if you stroked its ego and won 8 or more games a year.  The Michigan that we all see on the field isn't what most of us want, but it's what the hive mind in Schembechler Hall thinks is good for business in Ann Arbor, and so nobody with the power to change it wants to right the boat.  And that's a f'ing tragedy, because the lights are going out and Jack ain't coming to put UM on a door until the rescue party arrives.

Michigan isn't what it was, and "what it was" was never how a certain subset of the fanbase, including apparently this administration, remembers it.  I know it is blasphemy to question the "fabled" history of UM football, but since the 1940s Michigan has been the definition of a high-level "plugger", the type of team that won games by showing up and beating the teams they should and losing to the teams they should by following a simple script.  And yet as the game kept changing, Michigan remained its anachronistic self, buffered somewhat by this conference's stupidity-sealed bubble that talks about competing nationally while the University of Kentucky out-recruits everyone not named Michigan, OSU, or Nebraska and hiring every mediocre MAC coach with a pulse while the rest of college football laughs and points.

Inside The Box Score relates things a nine year old said during the game:

"That doesn't help at all."
* Referring to Nussmeier's decision to run the ball on 2nd and 22. The play gained zero yards. BRING BACK BORGES! (/ducks for cover.)

"Another huddle? Really?"
* Seriously, my son actually said that. I don't think he reads MGoBlog, and I hadn't said anything about tempo or huddling. So if a 9-year old can watch Utah succeeding with pace, watch Michigan plodding along, and gets exasperated at the huddling, why can't Brady figure this out?

jhackney has a column as well:

Tonight, The Utes brought a thorough spiritual cleansing to Ann Arbor in unusual style.

Instead of arid air or peep stones, They brought a torrential downpour that cleaned out the already depopulated Big House and a long moment of clarity for Michigan, its coaches, and fans. Shortly after Hoke and Mattison got done arguing over who executed getting off the field least, the team was in the locker room for over an hour to sit there and realized that they were down 16 points to a vastly mediocre team.

Elsewhere

Need a pick-me-up?

HSR on the Mandate of Heaven:


I think it's very hard to see positives in a loss when you're soaking wet.  It's even harder when you misplace your keys for 45 minutes in the Liberty Square parking structure*.  But, at some point, when in the cold and the wet, you realize that the team you love is in a treadmill of despair and ineptitude, and what's worse, you don't see a way out.

The graphic above is a simplified version of the dynastic cycle as understood in ancient China.  When you teach World History, you become very familiar with imperial decline.  Football empires are not that different.  You change a few words in that graphic, and well, it's very clear that it can apply to college football programs as well.

Nussmeter didn't go so well. MVictors with a timely Bump Elliott interview. Sap's Decals:

Devin Funchess – There is an old Canadian Hockey saying about getting or giving a “Hotel Dieu Pass” to or from one of your teammates. That means your inaccurate pass caused one of your teammates to get laid out and lit up, to the point where they have to be taken off on a stretcher and taken to the local hospital. (Hotel Dieu is a common Canadian Hospital name.)

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What that pass did, aside from Funchess taking a wicked shot, was jack up Utah even more. When you get a freebie to lay out one of the stars from the other team, you have just incited the feeding-frenzy to begin. So while it was just one incomplete pass, it was MUCH more than that. It was Utah’s cue to come after Michigan for more. I commend Funchess for staying in the game and making two huge catches after that hit. Devin Gardner, you owe Funchess a dinner, and an apology.

Compare and contrast Nebraska enthusiasm to Michigan.

Kickoff at Michigan:

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Those are not students above the concourse, those are the ex-student tickets that Brandon is trying to sell for any price.

MGoVideo:

The saddest thing on Saturday wasn’t anything that happened on the field. It was the Michigan sideline. I didn’t mind Hoke and Mattison going at it. I was glad to see them both fired up. But the players on the sideline all looked like they just wanted to go home. They looked like they’d quit. Then the rain came and 100,000-ish quit. In the end, some say the band played their full postgame show in an empty stadium, but nobody knows for sure.

It wasn’t that long ago that the chance of getting struck by lightning while watching Michigan football seemed, well, fair enough. Lately, it isn’t worth the risk.

Touch The Banner:

Are injuries a problem? I feel like injuries are a problem. I know every team goes through injuries, but it seems that Michigan's star player(s) get hurt every year. Devin Funchess got hurt in the second game and was still limping around in this one with an ankle injury that may linger for a while. Starting tight end Jake Butt is playing less than the ideal number of snaps because of his ACL recovery. Jabrill Peppers got hurt in week one, missed the Notre Dame game, and seemed to disappear for a stretch this game. Starting cornerback Raymon Taylor got hurt against the Fighting Irish and has yet to return. Both guys who were presumed to start at safety - Jarrod Wilson and Delano Hill - have missed extended time due to injuries. "Starting" linebacker Desmond Morgan has missed the last couple games, too. I would not say that the Wolverines have been devastated by injuries, but they aren't at full speed, either.

Mattison and Hoke had it out late in the first half. The issue:

There stood Brady Hoke, his arms folded and nearly 10 yards away from defensive coordinator Greg Mattison. They both looked away as if they were high school students who wanted nothing to do with each other.

The Michigan head coach had pulled Mattison back before he yelled, “get off the f-----g field” and the pair argued with each other.

He called it a “discussion,” but that’s probably not what having dinner looks like.

Cumong man:

Numbers: Michigan now 4-8 in last 12 games, outscored by 50 points in first half of 8 losses

Little things.

Comments

Mpfnfu Ford

September 22nd, 2014 at 6:04 PM ^

But money tends to talk, as the saying goes. If you open up your checkbook, assistant coaches will put certain things aside. And again, they could have had Casteel after the Shafer thing if they just ponied up the cashola. They didn't.

I just don't like the idea that "such and such philosophy or scheme can't work." Anything can work if you know how to teach it, know how to spot talent for it and know how to develop that talent towards the system you've chosen. Hoke's offense isn't failing because manball doesn't work, any more than Rich Rod's defense failed because the 3-3-5 can't work. Hoke's failed because his coaching staff can't teach what they want to do. Stanford has been what Hoke wanted to be for a long time with inferior talent, because they know what they're doing.

It just seems like a cop out to blame a formation or a philosophy instead of going, "these coaches don't know how to do what they want to do" which is a pretty damning criticism imo.

PurpleStuff

September 22nd, 2014 at 7:33 PM ^

Michigan ran a 3-3-5 for one game in Rich Rodriguez's first two seasons here.  Shafer ran a 4-3 for all but the Purdue game and Greg Robinson ran a 4-3 for all of 2009.  The defense still sucked because the depth chart was a complete shambles, especially in the back seven.

The fact that you would even mention things that happened in those first two years further indicate to me that you weren't interested in objectively evaluating where the program was headed in the future, but were rather just mad that when Rich Rodriguez showed up the team started losing and you needed somebody to blame.

mGrowOld

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:16 PM ^

This is all so sad really.  Sad that fans have been turned-off and stopped caring through years of losing & mediocre play coupled with ridiculous ticket and PSL pricing.  Sad that a team that freaking owned the 70's - 90's cant even win a home non-conference game against a very middle of the road PAC12 team.  Sad that our highly ranked recruits seem to get worse instead of better every year.  Sad that Michigan seems stuck in a style of play that was outdated a decade ago yet we cling to the idea that if we're somehow 'pure" to a vision our glory will return.

And, at least for me personally, sad that i don't care as much as I used to about it.  I gave up my tickets this year and thought I would miss going to the games - I don't.  And Saturday night, after watching Michigan get pummelled for the second time in three weeks, and having my phone lit up with texts from my OSU friends all saying basically "What the fuck is WRONG with you guys????" I watched a movie with my wife and son and didnt think a single thing about ithe game anymore.

Tulip Time

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:32 PM ^

It's sad for Brady Hoke too. He loves the program more than any of us do. He worked his whole life and got his dream job, and once he achieved it he simply couldn't handle it.  That's not an easy thing for a man to go through.

It's sad for the players. They love this guy and would do anything for him, but for whatever reason something isn't clicking and what he's doing simply isn't working. That's not easy for a college kid to go through.

The whole thing just sucks. There are no two ways about it.

Ali G Bomaye

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:51 PM ^

I really like Brady Hoke as a person.  I wish that next year we could have a flashback to 1996, keep Mattison as DC and Hoke as defensive line coach, and hire a new coach who can be a good CEO and promote offensive strategies that have been used in the last 20 years.  Hoke has some really useful coaching skills, but not the ones we need at head coach.

Blue in Yarmouth

September 22nd, 2014 at 1:39 PM ^

I really like Brady as a person and respect him for the father figure he has become for these young men. He has a lot of traits you want associated with a program like Michigan, but not of the head coaching variety. 

If he loves UM as much as he says he does perhaps he stays on as dline coach and allows UM to hire an new HC. He's probably under contract for at least another year after this one anyway, so get something out of him for it. That may keep recruits and current players from bailing and allow for some continuity within the program while also addressing the need of a new HC.

Of course all that would be contingent on the new HC not wanting to bring in his own guys. If he did, maybe Brady could be recruiting coordinator. 

/s, but it would be nice.

Mpfnfu Ford

September 22nd, 2014 at 5:55 PM ^

That wonders what Michigan football with this exact coaching staff would look like with a different AD. One who doesn't hire and fire coordinators and sit in on coach meetings. One who gets that he's not particularly qualified to do certain things and sticks to the things he is qualified to do. 

I'm not advocating for Hoke, but I wonder if things might have been different if Brandon wasn't a meddlesome dipshit who caused failure with everything he touches.

caliblue

September 22nd, 2014 at 11:07 PM ^

than MSU fans. At some point there's at least pity. The RCMB had 30+ pages during the game calling us scUM and calling Gardner yakity sax, Hoke the fat boy, etc. Didn't even give real names most of the time. No analysis, no thought other than F%^^ You ! And I do not ever expect there to be any wishes for us to improve or play well for the B1G . My God there were only 10 pages about their game, 1/3 as much as our game. I wonder if any of them even knew they HAD a game ( granted it was not much of one ). I cannot remember any time where a MSU game got its own thread on here ! Stay classy OSU ( never thought I'd say that )

Year of Revenge II

September 22nd, 2014 at 3:42 PM ^

It is sad, but it is not over.  Sometimes thing or person needs to be torn apart before you can rebuild a better version.  

If it were me, I would start at the very top (DB), certainly BH seems to be history unless he can beat MSU or OSU, maybe both.  And that's a good thing, because he just is not  up to the task of being a head coach at a major program, the evidence is overwhelming, as it should be even to a beancounter like DB.

Until the main players on the stage are competent, no excellent; and until someone cares more about the people who are paying their salaries, more and more people will feel like you.  But it's far from over...

dipshit moron

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:17 PM ^

the losses used to hurt because it was unusual to lose. it was easy to see what caused the loss and there was a real sense of coming back and winning the next one. i was the same way i used to be almost stunned when mich lost because i always really believed they would win, not hope they would win. i dont know i am just numb to it all now, and i am wondering if people inside the program are getting the same way.

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M-Dog

September 22nd, 2014 at 4:32 PM ^

It's not the losing.  Every top team has had losing streaks.

It's the not caring enough to make the changes necessary to win.  Either bcause you just don't know how, or because you are too comfortable and secure in your position and don't feel the urgency.  Neither is a good place to be.

 

gwkrlghl

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:18 PM ^

 

MARCUS HALL EPIC DOUBLE BIRD OF THE WEEK.

Worst. Event. Ever. This Week.

Miami takes back a punt 66 yards after Michigan obliges with a line drive punt and two gunners. Oh, and they only put ten guys on the field.

 

...and then strikes the Heisman pose which would normally be stupid but was super annoying in this case

UM Fan in Nashville

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:18 PM ^

Frustrating....

There are moments where the players show the reasons they were ranked so high by recruiting professionals, but at the same time, they show the consistency of a 2-3* recruit more than their 4-5* moments.  To me, there's only way direction to point the finger, at coaching.   And the hardest thing about that is, we have 2 of the 'better' coordinators at the top of the Offense and Defense.  Is the head coach that inept that he's preventing success for 2 coordinators that have had such great success elsewhere (and previously here)?  Is that in the specialty coaches (Line, Special teams, Secondary, etc)?  Is he preventing them from putting their schemes together?     I don't understand it at all.    And to think we have 2 back to back 5* QBs and nothing to show from it.   
At what point did the Michigan Wolverines become the Detroit Lions?  So much talent and nothing to show for it.    

Frustrating....doesn't even describe it.

NoVaWolverine

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:27 PM ^

This is one of the many, many frustrating things about this team. Greg Mattison and Doug Nussmeier didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday; these guys are proven coordinators. Yes they've had some favorable circumstances at various points in their careers, but they've still proved over time that they know what the heck they're doing. I wasn't expecting miracles from Nuss this year given the shaky OL situation and Gardner being perhaps mentally broken after last year, but I sure did expect better than this.  

I wrote after the Notre Dame game that the most frustrating thing about this team under Hoke is that it always seems to be less than the sum of its parts, and the underperformance with two proven (and well-paid) coordinators is another perfect example.

UM Fan in Nashville

September 22nd, 2014 at 2:04 PM ^

I had the opposite though with Nuss.  I thought for sure we'd see an immediate improvement in Gardner, almost instantly (similar to GMatt).  This is what Nuss has done at EVERY LEVEL.  He turned QBs into all-stars nearly everywhere, and this includes the NFL.   This is why I was expecting to see an immediate turnaround.   And I'm sitting here wondering where to point the finger.  It has to be at the top and it pains me to say that.   I want Hoke to succeed, but at this point, I think he's shown you can succeed, just not as head coach at The University of Michigan.  

 

Maddogrdt

September 22nd, 2014 at 2:59 PM ^

Is accuracy, Gardner and Robinson before him, both showed lack of accuracy and never grew into it. I used to think arm strengeth, but clearly accuracy can be more important as long as you are serviceable in arm strength. 

Just a shame too, as any mobile QB that can keep defense honest with accurate tosses, would be great in College. I'm starting to miss the days of immobile pocket QB's that can keep 8-9 men off line of scrimmage. So tired of watching our QB stare at Defenses that walk 8-9th guy up to LOS before snap and know, he won't be able to throw a simple 8 yard out even with CB 10 yards off WR...

maizevanblue

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:18 PM ^

They were a little fortunate...if that's the play I'm thinking of, with 2:14 to go in the half, Michigan only had 10 guys out on defense. Which is inexcusable after the punt debacle, but even more so because it was the first play after a Michigan timeout.

mgolund

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:19 PM ^

I thought I had just matured - losses don't ruin my day/weekend anymore - but Brian, you might have hit the nail on the head. We have battered fan syndrome.

Is this what it feels like to be a MAC program?

stephenrjking

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:24 PM ^

MAC fans know what they are. Many have loyalties to bigger teams as well as to their MAC school. FWIW losing doesn't affect me as it used to; but the possibility of a long, un-ending decline that guts a tradition that has always been important to my family is still very frustrating.

MileHighWolverine

September 22nd, 2014 at 1:38 PM ^

"MAC fans know what they are. Many have loyalties to bigger teams as well as to their MAC school."

Not going to lie, I've been far more interested in what other teams are doing that I ever have before in my life. So does my interest in watching USC/Arizona/SEC games mean that we are now a MAC level program?

Or have I been driven to watch other teams because we've become a MAC level program?

I think it's the latter.

 

stephenrjking

September 22nd, 2014 at 12:21 PM ^

I went to a wedding. Saw a few minutes on my WatchESPN app. Was kinda glad that I spent more time listening to the a Tigers game, though I briefly found myself throwing Joe Nathan and Brady Hoke into the same sentences with words like "fire." I am saddened. I want to care. I want to be excited for football on Saturday. I want to enjoy the sounds and the memories. Right now we face a season of emptiness. There is a chance I will make it to Michigan in November. Work usually keeps me from traveling in the fall, but I could be in A2 the Saturday of the Maryland game. I used to attend every home game; I haven't attended in 10 years. I could take my two oldest girls, continue a longtime family tradition. Sing the Victors. Show them the commemorative brick my Dad and I got. Talk about how Dad (passed away for some time now) used to take me to games, show them where we used to sit. Watch the drum major do his backbend during the fanfare. See the team take the field. With my children for the first time. And I'm afraid that much of the experience will be gutted. Morose fans watching a dead-man coach play out the string with players who have nothing left to play for. It's awful. Fix it or fire it.