Home
we had subs it was crazy

Primary links

  • About
    • $upport (lol)
    • Ethics
    • FAQ
    • Privacy Policy
  • Contact
  • MGoStore
  • MGoBoard
    • MGoBoard FAQ
    • Ticket spreadsheet
    • Michigan bar locator
    • Moderator Action Sticky
  • Useful Stuff
    • Depth Chart By Class
    • Unofficial Two Deep
    • 2013 Offer Board
    • Crude Bug Tracking System
    • Third Down Stats
    • Diaries, Windows Live Writer, And You
    • Michigan Future Schedules
    • User-Curated HOF
    • 2013 Recruiting Board
    • Where To Eat In Ann Arbor
Home

Navigation

  • Forums
  • Recent posts

User login

  • Create new account
  • Request new password

MGoElsewhere

  • @MGoBlog (Brian)
  • @aceanbender
  • @TomVH (Tom)
  • RSS Feed
  • iPhone App
  • Facebook profile
  • MGoKindle Store
  • mgo.licio.us
  • Brian @ TSB [Archive]
  • Brian @ AOL [Archive]
  • Sour Salty Bitter Sweet

Michigan Blogs

  • Big House Blog
  • Burgeoning Wolverine Star
  • Genuinely Sarcastic
  • Go Blue Michigan Wolverine
  • Holdin' The Rope
  • MGoFootball
  • MVictors
  • Maize 'n' Blue Nation
  • Maize 'n' Brew
  • Maize And Go Blue
  • Michigan Hockey Net
  • The Blog That Yost Built
  • The Hoover Street Rag
  • The M Block
  • The M Zone
  • The Wolverine Blog
  • Touch The Banner
  • UMGoBlog
  • UMHoops
  • UMTailgate
  • Wolverine Liberation Army

M On The Net

  • mgovideo
  • MGoBlue.com
  • Mike DeSimone
  • Recruiting Planet
  • The Wolverine
  • Go Blue Wolverine
  • Winged Helmet
  • UMGoBlue.com
  • MaizeRage.org
  • Puckhead
  • The M Den
  • True Blue Fan Forum

Big Ten Blogs

  • Illinois
    • A Lion Eye
    • Hail To The Orange
    • Illinois Baseball Report
    • Illinois Loyalty
  • Indiana
    • Inside The Hall
    • The Crimson Quarry
  • Iowa
    • Black Heart, Gold Pants
    • Fight For Iowa
  • Michigan State
    • The Only Colors
  • Minnesota
    • GopherHole.com
    • The Daily Gopher
    • I'm In Love With A Fringe Bowl Team
    • TNABACG
  • Nebraska
    • Big Red Network
    • Corn Nation
    • Husker Mike's Blasphemy
    • Husker Gameday
  • Northwestern
    • Sippin' On Purple
    • Lake The Posts
  • Notre Dame
    • The House Rock Built
    • One Foot Down
  • Ohio State
    • Eleven Warriors
    • Buckeye Commentary
    • Men of the Scarlet and Gray
    • Our Honor Defend
    • The Buckeye Nine
  • Penn State
    • Slow States
    • Black Shoe Diaries
    • Happy Valley Hardball
    • Penn State Clips
    • Linebacker U
    • Nittany White Out
  • Purdue
    • Boiled Sports
    • Hammer and Rails
  • Wisconsin
    • Bruce Ciskie

Links of Note

  • Baseball
    • Big Ten Hardball
    • College Baseball Today
    • The Baseball Zealot
    • The College Baseball Blog
  • Basketball
    • Ken Pomeroy
    • Basketball Prospectus
    • Midmajority
  • College Hockey
    • Chris Heisenberg
    • College Hockey Stats
    • Inside College Hockey
    • Michigan College Hockey
    • Hockey's Future
    • Sioux Sports
    • USCHO
    • Western College Hockey
    • CCHA
      • LSSU Hockey
      • Bronco Hockey Blog
  • Football
    • Smart Football
    • Every Day Should Be Saturday
    • Doctor Saturday
    • CFB Stats
    • Harold Stassen
    • NCAA D-I Stats Page
    • The Wizard Of Odds
  • General
    • Sports Central
  • Local Interest
    • The Ann Arbor Chronicle
    • Arborwiki
    • Arbor Update
    • Teeter Talk
    • Vacuum
  • Teams Of The D
    • Lions
      • Pride of Detroit
      • Fire Millen
    • Pistons
      • Detroit Bad Boys
      • Need4Sheed
    • Tigers
      • Roar Of The Tigers
      • The Detroit Tigers Weblog
      • The Daily Fungo
    • Red Wings
      • On The Wings
      • Behind The Jersey
      • Winging It In Motown
    • Michigan Sports Forum

Archive

  • May 2013 (55)
  • April 2013 (94)
  • March 2013 (104)
  • February 2013 (81)
  • January 2013 (93)
  • December 2012 (74)
  • November 2012 (142)
  • October 2012 (143)
  • September 2012 (107)
  • August 2012 (103)
  •  
  • 1 of 11
  • ››

Get Yer Tickets

Football Display Case

NFL Watches

Follow your favorite team with localtv-satellite.com: Click Here.

Site Search

Diaries

  • New
  • Popular
  • Hot
  • Does Expansion Actually Lead to More Recruits From a Certain Region?
    maizeonblueaction - 14 hours ago
  • Raiding the B1G-er Big Ten: Recruiting Prospects in Maryland and Rutgers Territory
    The Mathlete - 1 day ago
  • A Cynical Take on Why Expansion May be Dead for the Forseeable Future
    maizeonblueaction - 3 days ago
  • LIGHT IT UP, AGAIN. WALLPAPER
    jonvalk - 3 days ago
  • Using Rivals' Star Ratings To Look At Big Ten Football Recruiting: 2002-2013
    LSAClassOf2000 - 4 days ago
  •  
  • 1 of 4
  • ››
more
  • Using Rivals' Star Ratings To Look At Big Ten Football Recruiting: 2002-2013
    LSAClassOf2000 - 900 views
  • More Milford Men Than Michigan Men: Comparing the 11-12 and 12-13 Hockey Teams
    MGoBlueline - 792 views
  • UMich NFL draft history, Part III
    blueheron - 769 views
  • LIGHT IT UP, AGAIN. WALLPAPER
    jonvalk - 708 views
  • A Cynical Take on Why Expansion May be Dead for the Forseeable Future
    maizeonblueaction - 596 views
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more
  • Big Ten Recruiting Rankings 4-30-13
    Ace - 81 comments
  • Using Rivals' Star Ratings To Look At Big Ten Football Recruiting: 2002-2013
    LSAClassOf2000 - 19 comments
  • LIGHT IT UP, AGAIN. WALLPAPER
    jonvalk - 17 comments
  • A Cynical Take on Why Expansion May be Dead for the Forseeable Future
    maizeonblueaction - 17 comments
  • Raiding the B1G-er Big Ten: Recruiting Prospects in Maryland and Rutgers Territory
    The Mathlete - 13 comments
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more

MGoBoard

  • New
  • Recent
  • Hot
  • LB Dante Booker to OSU
    7 replies
  • Memorial Day Weekend (here for the) posbang thread
    72 replies
  • The Official SIAP Alan Branch Photoshop Thread
    15 replies
  • Which Pay Site Is Best?
    43 replies
  • OT: Star Trek + Dilithium = Esplode…. Esplode clarity
    25 replies
  • OT - ND paid Charlie more than Brian Kelly in 2012
    31 replies
  • Softball SuperRegionals Open Thread
    24 replies
  • OT: ESPN hires Paul Finebaum
    36 replies
  • OT: Red Wings vs Hawks Game 4 Open Thread
    193 replies
  • Mark May Trolls Ohio State Again, Buckeyes Fans Let Him Have It On Twitter
    37 replies
  • Who should replace ND in a long-term series?
    138 replies
  • Baseball Eliminated from B1G
    20 replies
  • Denard, other rookies discuss Star Trek
    56 replies
  • Urbs and his obsession with butts
    52 replies
  • Very OT: The Hangover 3 *Thread May Contain Spoilers*
    59 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 6
  • ››
  • Memorial Day Weekend (here for the) posbang thread
    72 replies
  • Softball SuperRegionals Open Thread
    24 replies
  • Which Pay Site Is Best?
    43 replies
  • LB Dante Booker to OSU
    7 replies
  • Denard, other rookies discuss Star Trek
    56 replies
  • Mark May Trolls Ohio State Again, Buckeyes Fans Let Him Have It On Twitter
    37 replies
  • Who should replace ND in a long-term series?
    136 replies
  • OT: Star Trek + Dilithium = Esplode…. Esplode clarity
    25 replies
  • The Official SIAP Alan Branch Photoshop Thread
    15 replies
  • OT: ESPN hires Paul Finebaum
    36 replies
  • 5 star 2013 DT may not be enrolling at Notre Dame
    92 replies
  • OT: Red Wings vs Hawks Game 4 Open Thread
    193 replies
  • OT - Official MGoBaby Thread (you got 'em, we want to see 'em)
    151 replies
  • ESPN's Luginbill Predicts Top 5 Impact Freshmen, includes Derrick Green
    73 replies
  • OT - ND paid Charlie more than Brian Kelly in 2012
    31 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 6
  • ››
  • OT: Red Wings vs Hawks Game 3 Open Thread
    203 replies
  • OT: Red Wings vs Hawks Game 4 Open Thread
    193 replies
  • OT - Official MGoBaby Thread (you got 'em, we want to see 'em)
    151 replies
  • Scouting Report: Jabrill Peppers
    151 replies
  • How much do you really hate ohio?
    145 replies
  • OT? Graduatin' Season. Who had the Worst Commencement Speaker?
    141 replies
  • Who should replace ND in a long-term series?
    136 replies
  • Speight and TomVH on Peppers
    116 replies
  • OT: Red Wings @ Hawks Game 2 Open Thread
    114 replies
  • Prayers for Moore, Oklahoma
    112 replies
  • Alex Bars to Notre Dame
    96 replies
  • 5 star 2013 DT may not be enrolling at Notre Dame
    92 replies
  • OT: NBA Draft Lottery
    78 replies
  • ESPN 30 for 30 on the Bad Boys
    77 replies
  • Michigan Softball vs. Cal Open Thread
    75 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 6
  • ››

mgo.licio.us

  • Burke says Michigan can be 'just as good' next year with McGary, Robinson III leading

    yes plz

    0 comments
  • SEC coaches with tiny faces

    I don't think they changed Les at all actually

    0 comments
  • This college baseball team is the best at postgame interviews

    national champs baby

    1 comments
  • Rounding up the latest in NCAA absurdities.

    Patrick Hruby is doing God's work.

    0 comments
  • Cornell wrestler tops Michigan's Trey Burke for Sports Illustrated award | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com

    first comment: "EVERY ATHLETE HAS ASPIRATIONS OF WINNING AND WE HAVE OUR FAVORITES BUT IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO OTHER STUDENTS ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS, TOO!"

    0 comments
  • Burke hearing he'll go two through six in NBA draft

    stupid Pistons and their refusal to tank properly

    0 comments
  • 2013 NHL Draft Prospect: Andrew Copp

    rundown of Michigan's riser

    0 comments
  • Michigan's key returnee: Glenn Robinson

    needs moar usage

    0 comments
  • Former Arkansas QB Brandon Mitchell transferring to NC State

    so much for that

    0 comments
  • The B1G List: Ranking the State Fossils of the Big Ten

    This list is completely arbitrary and not a genuine analysis of the relative merits of state fossils.

    0 comments
  • Trey Burke turns to inner circle to prepare for NBA draft

    will be michigan's highest pick in a while

    2 comments
  • B1G assistant coach salaries on the rise

    money has to go somewhere

    0 comments
  • Tim Hardaway Jr. is motivated by his critics and doubters, and supremely confident in his ability

    I am only motivated by people who have no opinion about me.

    0 comments
  • Big Ten football procrastinates on parity-based scheduling, and nothing ever changes

    the just released schedules were a flat-out statement that the B10 doesn't believe SOS will matter in playoff selection

    1 comments
  • Michigan's Glenn Robinson III, Mitch McGary ranked inside top 20 on ESPN's 2014 draft board

    but I thought that draft was supposed to be incredibly loaded?

    1 comments
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more

Friday Recruitin' Has Its Own Luginbill Watch Joke

  • View
  • Revisions
By Ace — July 20th, 2012 at 2:25 PM — 26 comments
Filed under:
  • 2013 recruiting
  • 2014 recruiting
  • casey tucker
  • csont'e york
  • damon webb
  • javon harrison
  • jordan wilkins
  • kc crosby
  • khalid hill
  • michael ferns
  • nick watkins
  • recruiting roundup
  • scott pagano
  • shane morris

Today's recruiting roundup discusses early returns on Shane Morris at the Elite 11 finals, 7-on-7 highlights of Khalid Hill and Csont'e York, and a few happy trails in both the '13 and '14 classes. Also included is an interview with 2014 TX CB Nick Watkins.

Arm Cannon: Engaged

Embedded again, both for informative purposes and so I can make a "Tom Luginbill got his watch from a Happy Meal" joke.

The Elite 11 finals are under way in California, and naturally they feature Shane Morris throwing a football a very long distance:

So the QBs are throwing 55 yards at a target, Shane Morris dropped back to the 35 and hit the End line, 75 yards

— Scott Kennedy (@ScoutKennedy) July 19, 2012

Morris also won the Golden Gun Accuracy Challenge yesterday, so those rapidly-moving projectiles are hitting home. His performance on Day 1 impressed Rivals's Mike Farrell:

Shane Morris, Warren (Mich.) De La Salle: Morris clearly has the biggest arm at the event and loves to show it off. But this is even more encouraging: He is improving his touch and the ball didn't sail on him nearly as frequently as it has in past showcases. His long ball wobbled a bit, but it wasn't too concerning. Morris' ceiling is very, very high.

And his Day 2 performance even moreso, as he landed atop Farrell's list of standouts ($):

1. Shane Morris, Warren (Mich.) De La Salle - Morris earned the gold jersey for the afternoon after winning the accuracy contest in the morning and he continued his fine play in 7-on-7 situations. While all of the quarterbacks have been encouraged to check down quickly, Morris keeps his eyes downfield more than others, has a cannon arm and fit the ball into some tight windows. He still clearly prefers to throw to his left so he needs to work on field vision, but he has shown the most overall tools through two days.

The lefty's tendency to focus on only half of the field appears to be the area he must work on the most, as it also cropped up in Scout's rundown of the second day's top performers ($):

4. Shane Morris - There shouldn't be much question of who has the strongest arm any more. Including the college players acting as counselors, the strongest arm at the Elite 11 Finals belongs to Morris. When push comes to shove, Morris has a laser-like focus on the left side of the field. That's a habit he'll need to outgrow.

That arm, though; counselors at the event include Georgia's Aaron Murray and Clemson's Tajh Boyd, and if Scout is to be believed Morris already has more arm strength than those two.

With the event still ongoing, I'll have more on Morris's Elite 11 performance in Tuesday's roundup. Other early standouts include Miami commit Kevin Olsen, USC commit Max Browne, and Notre Dame commit Malik Zaire.

Khalid Hill And Csont'e York 7-on-7 Highlights

GBW's Josh Newkirk recently uploaded Maximum Exposure player highlights from the IMG 7-on-7 National Championships, giving us a close look at tight end commit Khalid Hill...

...as well as wide receiver commit Csont'e York:

Hill's more extensive highlight reel suggests that he was a more frequent target of Morris at the event, and you can see why: he does a nice job working underneath the coverage as well as finding space up the seam. York gives defenders trouble with his length, but the brief clip doesn't tell us a whole lot more about him as you can't see him run most of the routes.

Speaking of MaxEx, 247's Steve Wiltfong recapped their summer performances thus far, including blurbs on Morris, York, Hill, Jourdan Lewis, Damon Webb, and Malik McDowell.

Happy Trails

Not much news on the 2013 recruiting front this week, but we do have a few happy trails, unfortunately.

It should come as no surprise that TN RB Jordan Wilkins pledged to Auburn after previously eliminating the Wolverines from contention. VA RB Derrick Green is now the lone remaining running back target in the class.

There had been some talk of five-star FL CB Vernon Hargreaves III putting Michigan back into the mix in his recruitment, but he tweeted yesterday that he won't be able to visit Ann Arbor; he's releasing a top five momentarily, and the Wolverines won't be on it.

HI DT Scott Pagano named a top four of LSU, Alabama, Florida, and Clemson, and will name his choice on August 10th ($). He hasn't visited Michigan and I don't believe the coaches are taking another defensive tackle regardless.

2014 Updates

OH LB Michael Ferns has already narrowed his list down to a final three of Michigan, Penn State, and Notre Dame. ESPN's Jared Shanker reveals he's also ahead of the game when it comes to academics:

Ferns will return to the Red Devils basketball team after taking his sophomore year off. His head coach at St. Clairsville, Brett McLean, said Ferns will be in the running for valedictorian in 2014, and to top it off the imposing, hard-hitting linebacker is preparing to go pre-med when he gets to college.

"As soon as I got into high school science and math stuck out for me," Ferns said. "From a social aspect, I feel like I could make (football and pre-med) work. Every college at this level is going to have a great education. I'm focusing on going to school but also the opportunities I'll have after my four years and what it takes to finish up pre-med."

[ed-S: Med School rankings by USN&WR, just sayin': Michigan-10th; Penn State-unranked, at least worse than 110th; Notre Dame-doesn't have one]

Matt Pargoff recently caught up with Ferns, who says he's looking to make a decision by the end of his junior year, and he plans on graduating early. Ferns made trips with his whole family to Notre Dame and Penn State, but on his prior visit to Ann Arbor was accompanied only by his father; he plans to rectify that situation for next weekend's BBQ at the Big House.

Those hoping Cass Tech CB Damon Webb would make an early decision to Michigan might want to temper those expectations after Webb camped at LSU and came away with an offer ($). Webb's father told Allen Trieu that a decision won't come until "probably this time next year," and they'll make a return trip to Baton Rouge before then. He's also quoted by Steve Wiltfong($) as saying that "LSU is right up there with Michigan." Webb is looking like a top-100 player who will garner attention from a who's-who list of national powers, which gives me the feeling his recruitment is far from over, even though Michigan holds home-field advantage.

Here's a fun example of why I don't often post links here when recruits say they want to visit a school but don't set a date. Two days ago, 247's Todd Worly posted an article on FL ATH Javon Harrison containing this quote($):

“I’ll try to visit [Michigan],” Harrison said. “I’ll try to go this fall during the week, and I probably could make it for a game. Probably both.”

On the same day as the article was posted, Harrison announced his commitment to Virginia Tech. It's always a good idea to take any quote like the above with a grain of salt when it's given to a reporter from a team-specific site.

Joining Harrison in the happy trails category are AZ OT Casey Tucker, who pledged to USC this week, and SC LB K.C. Crosby, who will choose on Sunday between a final five that doesn't include Michigan ($).

An Interview With Nick Watkins

TX CB Nick Watkins has already garnered offers from Michigan, Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, LSU, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, and Texas A&M. He's also ranked as the #36 overall prospect in the class of 2014 by 247. At 6'0", 180 pounds, he has frame to be an elite cornerback, and with those early offers it's easy to see him maintaining his blue-chip status through the recruiting process. I had the chance to briefly chat with Nick earlier this week, and here's the transcript of our interview:

ACE: First of all, which schools have been in contact with you the most so far, and how many offers are you up to?

NICK: I am up to I think 13, and all of the schools have been in contact with my coaches about me.

ACE: Do you have any favorites or a top list right now?

NICK: Nah, not really, all of them are at the top right now.

ACE: What do you know about Michigan, and what was your reaction to getting an offer from them?

NICK: I know that they're a winning program, with great tradition. My reaction was surprised because they hadn't sent me any mail or been in contact with my coaches until the last week of spring football.

ACE: Now that they've offered have you been in touch with the coaches more? If so, which coach or coaches do you talk to?

NICK: Yes, I have been. I talk to Coach Mallory and Coach Funk.

ACE: What schools have you visited so far, and do you have plans to take any visits during the rest of the summer?

NICK: I only visited Texas. And nah, not right now.

ACE: I know it's a long way away, but what factors will determine where you want to go to school?

NICK: The education [is] first. So a good business major! Also, where I can compete and get on the field early, a good school atmosphere and a good coaching staff!

ACE: If you had to scout yourself, what would you say is your biggest strength and what do you want to improve before you get to the next level?

NICK: My biggest strength would be my length. I have great hips for a tall corner, and I can make plays! I want to improve my strength right now.

  • Login or register to post comments

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
July 20th, 2012 at 3:12 PM | Hey! (Score:2)
MaizeMN
MaizeMN's picture
Joined: 01/28/2012
MGoPoints: 962

How come I didn't get a watch in my Happymeal?

L.S.A. '88

  • Login or register to post comments
July 20th, 2012 at 3:25 PM | Khalid Hill looks legit, it's (Score:3 Normal)
WolvinLA2
WolvinLA2's picture
Joined: 11/13/2009
MGoPoints: 17706

Khalid Hill looks legit, it's surprising he gets so little recruiting site love.  Yeah, he's not 6'6".  But he has the bulk, athleticism and hands to make up for it.  And he runs really good routes.  Dustin Keller and Aaron Hernandez are about Hill's height, and we know they're very good TEs. 

He seems like a guy who could be an Aaron Shea type of players, which is exciting.  I'm not sure if Hill hits like Shea did, but I also think he has athleticism that Shea didn't.  Either way, he's a guy to get excited about, for sure.

  • Login or register to post comments
July 20th, 2012 at 3:59 PM | You've been around long (Score:2)
robbyt003
robbyt003's picture
Joined: 10/25/2010
MGoPoints: 2592

You've been around long enough to know how much they value size > ability.  Oh well, it's not like his jersey is going to have 3 stars on it or anything.  

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

  • Login or register to post comments
July 20th, 2012 at 4:13 PM | I get that, and I'm not any (Score:3 Normal)
WolvinLA2
WolvinLA2's picture
Joined: 11/13/2009
MGoPoints: 17706

I get that, and I'm not any less excited about him because of it, it's just a talking point.  But it has to be more than that.  He's listed at 6'2", and the #28 TE according to Rivals.  Ahead of him, there are 3 dudes listed at 6'3" (including the #7 guy) and 6 dudes who are 6'4" (including the #3 guy, and two others in the top 10). 

So although I don't expect him to be a top-10, unanimous 4-star recruit, I also don't think he should be #28, behind guys going to Cincinnati, Air Force and Rice.  Funny thing is, the guy going to Air Force, Pete Cender, is also from Michigan and ranked #23.  His other offers are BGSU and Western - that's it.  That does not jive with me.   

  • Login or register to post comments
July 20th, 2012 at 4:19 PM | Hill only had offers from us (Score:2)
robbyt003
robbyt003's picture
Joined: 10/25/2010
MGoPoints: 2592

Hill only had offers from us and CMU though.  Not trying to argue with ya, but his size/lack of offers doesn't help his case for a higher rating.    

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

  • Login or register to post comments
July 20th, 2012 at 4:34 PM | He has an offer from (Score:2)
WolvinLA2
WolvinLA2's picture
Joined: 11/13/2009
MGoPoints: 17706

He has an offer from Michigan, which he jumped on the second he got it.  That totally changes things.  Shane's lack of offers hasn't hurt him. 

When a kid has an elite offer, it far outweighs a number of MAC and MAC-ish offers.  Especially when that kid shuts down his recruiting the moment he gets said elite offer. 

  • Login or register to post comments
July 20th, 2012 at 4:40 PM | Shane Morris committed like 9 (Score:2)
robbyt003
robbyt003's picture
Joined: 10/25/2010
MGoPoints: 2592

Shane Morris committed like 9 months before Hill, so a little different situation as far as receiving offers.   Regardless, his film looks pretty good so I'm happy.  

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

  • Login or register to post comments
July 20th, 2012 at 4:48 PM | I give K Hill 5 Zoltans! (Score:4 Normal)
gordie bell
gordie bell's picture
Joined: 03/15/2009
MGoPoints: 7970

I give K Hill 5 Zoltans! 4128455980_9d72f36b6b_o4128455980_9d72f36b6b_o4128455980_9d72f36b6b_o4128455980_9d72f36b6b_o4128455980_9d72f36b6b_o

  • Login or register to post comments
July 20th, 2012 at 6:20 PM | I don't think it's that (Score:2)
WolvinLA2
WolvinLA2's picture
Joined: 11/13/2009
MGoPoints: 17706

I don't think it's that different, considering both players committed before most teams send out the bulk of their offers.  The fact remains that Hill's offer list means little since he got an early UM offer and accepted it right away. 

  • Login or register to post comments
July 20th, 2012 at 11:43 PM | Didn't Shane say a while back (Score:2)
denardogasm
Joined: 09/11/2011
MGoPoints: 1861

Didn't Shane say a while back that he has a lot more offers than are listed but he doesn't report them because they dont matter to him?

"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.

-Craig Roh 10/29/2011

  • Login or register to post comments
July 20th, 2012 at 4:21 PM | Plus I'm glad we have the #28 (Score:2)
robbyt003
robbyt003's picture
Joined: 10/25/2010
MGoPoints: 2592

Plus I'm glad we have the #28 TE over the #29 TE.  How would you like to say this name over the next 4 years?

 

SIALE FAKAILOATONGA

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

  • Login or register to post comments
July 20th, 2012 at 10:20 PM | Maybe Pete Cender is a better (Score:2)
Magnus
Magnus's picture
Joined: 07/17/2008
MGoPoints: 27476

Maybe Pete Cender is a better football player.  Hill's only other offer was from CMU, and when Michigan swooped in with an offer, he ended it right there.  We have no idea how many other offers Hill would have received in the meantime.  For all we know, he could still be sitting on a CMU offer while Cender grabbed those other offers and leaped "ahead" of him in the offer category.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

  • Login or register to post comments
July 20th, 2012 at 10:15 PM | I don't know about Dustin (Score:2)
Magnus
Magnus's picture
Joined: 07/17/2008
MGoPoints: 27476

I don't know about Dustin Keller, but I've seen Aaron Hernandez's high school film.  Hill's doesn't compare.  Hill should be an adequate H-back, but not every Michigan recruit deserves a high 4-star rating.  

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

  • Login or register to post comments
July 23rd, 2012 at 2:04 AM | "I wish I was little bit (Score:3 Normal)
Tongdakfiend
Joined: 07/13/2012
MGoPoints: 55

"I wish I was little bit taller, I wish I was a baller..."  Other than for his height, Khalid Hill looks good on tape.  Hope for the best with him.  I don't really care about what offers he did or didn't get.  Proof will be in the pudding hopefully.

  • Login or register to post comments
July 20th, 2012 at 4:07 PM | What the hell does being (Score:1)
cbuswolverine
Joined: 08/14/2008
MGoPoints: 1767

What the hell does being lefthanded have to do with the length of a QBs delivery?

  • Login or register to post comments
July 20th, 2012 at 4:47 PM | Mechanics (Score:1 Normal)
goblue1213
Joined: 01/09/2011
MGoPoints: 222

It has more to do with mechanics than righty/lefty. A lot of lefty's just have poor mechanics from not having the high level coaching. It seems like a lot of lefty QBs also play baseball, so the pitching motion used in baseball lengthens the delivery of the football. Most lefty's that have big arms are, at the bare minimum, given a look on the baseball diamond. Big arm + lefty = baseball scouts drooling. That's my personal view of it anyway.

Flying the Maize and Blue in the heart of Dixie

  • Login or register to post comments
July 20th, 2012 at 6:07 PM | I recall analysis done here (Score:2)
Farnn
Joined: 07/07/2008
MGoPoints: 2347

I recall analysis done here or linked to that showed that due to the higher chance of success for a lefty in baseball and the lack of any advantage in football, most lefties with big arms ended up in baseball.

  • Login or register to post comments
July 21st, 2012 at 3:05 AM | Re: Ferns (Score:2)
M Wolve
Joined: 09/04/2011
MGoPoints: 732

For what it's worth, I played college football, and I didn't get into my alma mater's medical school. I know that it's only one example and Ace may have been joking, but I'm just trying to illustrate that where you go to undergrad doesn't necessarily increase your likelihood of getting into the same college's med school/other grad program. Also, if I had been rated on rivals, I may have been granted a tenth of one star, which likely holds less weight when it comes to applications than one who actually contributes to a team.

Bring back Keith Jackson

  • Login or register to post comments
July 21st, 2012 at 11:43 PM | hmmm...going to a school with (Score:1)
caliblue
Joined: 11/02/2008
MGoPoints: 371

hmmm...going to a school with a medical school always trumps a school without. may i ask which school we are talking about ? hopefully you did go to med school. i did undergrad at the U

Upholding maize and blue honor in a warm climate

  • Login or register to post comments
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:10 AM | Ooh, yeah. Um, I'm going to (Score:1)
Abe Froman
Abe Froman's picture
Joined: 09/20/2010
MGoPoints: 1170

Ooh, yeah. Um, I'm going to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there...

 

I know a bunch of prince's and domers who became MD's.  And I know a bunch of WSU undergrad's who weren't accepted to med while others from small liberal arts colleges were.

 

Not to mention,even if you have a med school:

the quality of undergrad ed =/= quality of med school

case in point -- us at the University of Michigan.

 

  • Login or register to post comments
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:27 PM | But you're taking the extreme (Score:2)
WolvinLA2
WolvinLA2's picture
Joined: 11/13/2009
MGoPoints: 17706

But you're taking the extreme example - comparing a mediocore undergrad with a med school (such as Wayne State) to a very good to elite undergrad school without one (ND or other top liberal arts schools). 

There are exceptions, but if you compare two schools that are close to equal, it's better to have the undergrad with a med school.  Is that fair? 

  • Login or register to post comments
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:47 PM | I'm with Abe here.  In my (Score:2)
denardogasm
Joined: 09/11/2011
MGoPoints: 1861

I'm with Abe here.  In my experience it has no bearing on your likelihood of getting in.  Why would it?  Think about how much involvement you have with the med school when you're in undergrad.  I'd say roundabout zero.  You're actually probably able to get more meaningful experiences at a local hospital without a med school than if there is one because you don't have to compete with a thousand other students for volunteer/shadowing/work experiences.  The med schools aren't even going to look at the supposed quality of the school that closely in most cases, because there are so many other variables surrounding each individual applicant.  Having or not having a med school at the undergrad institution will naturally be even lower on the checklist than that.  I don't think it's even on the check list actually.

"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.

-Craig Roh 10/29/2011

  • Login or register to post comments
July 22nd, 2012 at 9:44 PM | the only advantage having a (Score:1)
Abe Froman
Abe Froman's picture
Joined: 09/20/2010
MGoPoints: 1170

the only advantage having a medical school has upon your undergraduate education is the guaranteed close proximity of a hospital and biomedical research.  given that every community has a hospital and most universities and colleges have biomedical research, students can achieve the benefits of patient care and research experience despite not having a local med school.

that being said, if you attend a university without a med school, it is very likely that university is a lower-tier school, and your chances of getting accepted to med school will be hindered due to the universy's lack of academic rigor.  that's notable, but ultimately it is the academic rigor of the undergraduate instituion and the individual's course of study that has the greatest bearing on evaluating the academic credentials of prospective students (aside from the obvious GPA and MCAT).

keep in mind, the purpose of the MCAT is to normalize applicants across a spectrum of schools and programs of study so that this all becomes moot (although it never really is).

  • Login or register to post comments
July 21st, 2012 at 10:43 AM | Hill - 4* (Score:1)
quiverfull
Joined: 12/21/2011
MGoPoints: 531

Excellent, soft hands.  Very good vision and tracking of the ball.  Pretty good movement for a thick guy.  Did notice he was enjoying 7-on-7 without being hit, as his stance at the line of scrimmage was rather slack.  Don't know enough about him to comment too much more, but would say also that if he is a high-character and football IQ guy, then he will fit in well. 

Quiverfull

  • Login or register to post comments
July 21st, 2012 at 4:07 PM | Hill (Score:1 Normal)
speedkills16
speedkills16's picture
Joined: 04/27/2011
MGoPoints: 8

Pete Cender is 6'4" 230 lbs and runs a 4.65 40 yard dash. Khalid Hill is 6"2' 230lbs and is probably slower than 4.65. To my knowledge a good part of the rankings is based on upside and the players ceiling and Cender probably has a higher ceiling thus the higher ranking

  • Login or register to post comments
Powered by Pressflow, an open source content management system
Theme provided by Roopletheme; sidebars adapted from Chris Murphy.