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Today's recruiting roundup addresses some disturbing Twitter-related news, the recruitments of Ty Isaac and Henry Poggi, a pair of new 2013 offers, and a way-too-early top 25 for the class of 2014.

On Twitter and Recruits

Prepare to be creeped out:

Ohio State has learned that a convicted sex offender from Kentucky has made contact with Buckeyes student-athletes both in-person and through social media websites.

The Lantern obtained a Friday email that was sent from OSU athletic director for compliance Doug Archie informing Buckeye student-athletes that the university is aware of photographs OSU players have taken with Charles Eric Waugh, 31, a man listed on Kentucky’s sex offender registry, Archie said in the email.

"The University has become aware that an individual who is listed on Kentucky's sex offender registry has recently been seen in pictures with our student-athletes," Archie said in the mail, which was preceded by a warning text to student athletes.

Land-Grant Holyland has further details, including screencaps of Waugh tweeting inspirational quotes to Ohio State players and recruits and a photograph of him with 2013 recruits Alex Anzalone, Joey Bosa, and Mike Heuerman (above). Waugh is a registered sex offender—and currently on probation—because he was convicted in 2007 of "five counts of possession of matter portraying sexual performances by minors." As Land-Grant Holyland points out, Waugh could be in deep trouble, as the terms of his probation explicitly prohibit him from using any social media platform that allows access to minors, which is obviously the case with Twitter.

What strikes me most about the whole ordeal, however, is that several people—including a pair of current Buckeye players—came to Waugh's defense when he was called out by LGH on Twitter for sending quotes to underage kids and "pandering for [retweets]." This happened prior to the revelation that he was a sex offender, but I still find it deeply worrisome. One of the most prevalent arguments I see when people defend interacting with high school recruits through social media is that many of the recruits enjoy those interactions, so they're justified. I can't agree with that logic—there's a reason most high school kids can't vote, and it has to do with gaining a proper understanding of the world around them.

I'm not saying people shouldn't ever follow recruits; given the nature of my job, that would be hypocritical. I honestly don't see why people want to do so—the amount of relevant news gained is dwarfed in comparison to the sheer volume of high school drama, tweets with far too much information, and life musings of high schoolers—but that's your prerogative. When the line is crossed to interacting with recruits, however, it becomes a problem; even if you can't see an issue with chatting with a high school kid you don't know, there is the fact that NCAA violations are being committed at an alarming rate. I've had people ask me to tweet at recruits and encourage them to go to Michigan, which not only violates NCAA rules and the principles of journalistic integrity, but is also asking me to insert myself into a life decision for which I have no business giving input.

I realize that I'm speaking to a small fraction of the blog's readership, and also that there are a large number of fans who won't see this. But things will change soon—this isn't the first or last time that recruits will unwittingly interact with a sex offender, to put it bluntly—and I can't foresee fans having such unfettered access to recruits remaining the norm. Get ahead of the curve, remember that you're dealing with high school kids, and understand that it isn't your job to tell these young men what they should do with their lives. Brady Hoke will handle recruiting just fine without you.

(As for Facebook, by the way: don't. Just don't. Please don't make me list the reasons why you shouldn't "friend" recruits.)

Isaac Visiting USC, More 2013 News

IL RB Ty Isaac will take his second trip to USC this weekend, and according to Sam Webb he'll be accompanied by his mother ($). While I still think Michigan has the edge in his recruitment—his mother indicated that another visit to Ann Arbor is likely—this does signal that USC is a legitimate contender, perhaps moreso than Notre Dame. Isaac does ask that people not read too much into the trip, however:

“At this point (people) are going to find out (about the visit) anyway,” he said.  “They’re going to have writers out there that hear that I’m out there, and they’re going to write about it.  I can’t control that.  I knew I had it set up for about two weeks and I kind of didn’t want to say right when I knew because you know how some of these guys on the internet are.  They go crazy… like two visits means a commitment.  But it’s tough… you have to get out and see these places.  Just because it’s far away doesn’t mean it should be a one visit type deal. I’ve been a lot of places multiple times, so we’re just checking it out again.”

Please don't let Isaac doing his due diligence cause panic(!) in the comments. Also, as he has said in the past, Isaac plans to make his decision before the fall.

Rivals caught up with MD DT Henry Poggi after his visit to Alabama, and he played things close to the vest, abstaining from naming any leaders ($). He's working on setting his first visit to Penn State, however, and also is considering trips to Texas A&M and Cal. Given that he's taken three trips each to Michigan and Alabama, I wouldn't expect those schools to become a threat unless he takes return visits.

According to TomVH, Michigan sent out offers to two new prospects ($) this week in Fort Lauderdale (FL) University School of Nova South teammates WR Jordan Cunningham and DT Maquedius Bain. Cunningham is strangely listed at either 6'1" or 6'3" and makes the top 150 on both Rivals and ESPN, though he garners three-star ratings from Scout and 247. MAQUEDIUS BAIN (yes, he gets the all-caps treatment) is currently a Florida State commit, but he could possibly open up his recruitment; he's in the top 100 on both Scout and ESPN, but also has three stars on two sites.

Neither offer should come as a surprise considering Michigan's needs, especially with how things are trending at wide receiver. While things look good for Laquon Treadwell, there's still along way to go before he decides. Meanwhile, TX WR Eldridge Massington just committed to USC this afternoon ($, info in header). Fellow TX WR Marcell Ateman committed to Oklahoma State on Wednesday. NC WR Uriah LeMay cut his list down to ten ($), and it doesn't include the Wolverines. With two more receivers a near-necessity for rounding out the class, don't be surprised if Michigan goes hard after some new names on the recruiting trail.

Quickly: Sam Webb's DetNews feature this week is on CA ATH Elijah Qualls, who's trimmed down his current list to Washington, Oregon State, Arizona, Nebraska, California, Michigan, Iowa State and UCLA, though USC, Oklahoma, and Oregon could just into the mix if they offer. He's considering using an official visit to check out Ann Arbor. Michigan added a quarterback for the 2012 class, picking up Detroit Jesuit's Brian Cleary as a preferred walk-on.

Camps! Plus 2014 Updates

It's a big weekend for Michigan commits, as Columbus will host an Elite11 regional today then the Nike Football Training Camp on Saturday. Shane Morris will try to earn a spot in the Elite11 finals after failing to do so at the Dallas regional last month, though he'll face stiff competition from Stanford commit Ryan Burns (ESPN's #17 overall recruit) and others.

The NFTC will play host to commits Jourdan Lewis, Taco Charlton, Khalid Hill, David Dawson, and Mike McCray, who will attempt to raise their stock with strong camp performances. Scout's Allen Trieu has an extensive free preview; uncommitted recruits of note include Cass Tech DT Kenton Gibbs (no M offer), IN DT Darius Latham (offer), and a host of 2014 prospects, including MI WR Damon Webb, OH WR Thaddeus Snodgrass, MI LB Deon Drake, MI LB Gary Hosey, MI LB William White, and MI RB Lorenzo Collins. I know TomVH and Chantel Jennings will be there, as will the guys from Tremendous, so there will be no shortage of coverage on the event next week.

247 released a (very) early top 25 for the class of 2014, and several players holding Michigan offers made the list, including top overall prospect VA DT Da'Shawn Hand. Other offerees: NJ CB Jabrill Peppers (#3), MD OT Damian Prince (#13), NC OT Bentley Spain (#17), DC CB Jalen Tabor (#20), and MI DE Malik McDowell (#23). [EDIT: Tim Sullivan just posted over on The Fort (and said I could pass this along) that Peppers doesn't yet hold a Michigan offer, despite statements Peppers has made to the contrary. His coach confirms that Peppers doesn't have an offer at the moment.]

Peppers named a top six this week that includes Michigan, and he revealed to 247 that he grew up as a fan of the Wolverines ($). Joining the Wolverines are Stanford, USC, Miami (YTM), Notre Dame, and Ohio State; Peppers said that Michigan will "definitely" be in his top five when he has one, and he's working on setting up an unofficial visit. Getting in early on Peppers would make for a fantastic start to the 2014 class.

Quickly: Kyle Turley and J.C. Shurburtt break down Logan Tuley Tillman's junior film—there's not much insight beyond what Turley wrote up last week, but it's interesting to see him go through tape. David Dawson is still getting visited by other schools, with Florida making a particularly strong push, though he remains committed and won't take visits elsewhere—he's well aware of Hoke's policy. Trieu breaks down the emerging 2014 prospects in the Midwest, including recently-offered Parrker Westphal.

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:05 PM | It's been a bad week for WR (Score:2)
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It's been a bad week for WR recruiting.

Starting to pessimistic about chances to get a top WR...

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:16 PM | Quick, get me Ty Isaac's Twitter handle . . . (Score:5 Normal)
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so I can tell him what a bad idea it would be to visit USC again!!!

Now, I'm sorry, Ace, what else were you saying?

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:20 PM | Has Massington ever visited (Score:1)
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Has Massington ever visited USC prior to his commitment?

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:43 PM | Not sure, but he told (Score:2)
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Not sure, but he told Tremendous on that same day that USC offered him that he was not going to commit to USC "on the spot" if they offered him that day and that he wanted to wait a while before commiting, including taking an official visit to Michigan.  I guess they gave him an offer he couldn't refuse.

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:44 PM | Nope. Wouldn't hold out hope (Score:2)
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Nope. Wouldn't hold out hope for Michigan, though—he jumped on that offer in a hurry.

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:25 PM | Darius Latham (Score:2)
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Has Latham shown any interest in Michigan?  I know, I know... it's only May, but I'm starting to worry about DT and WR for 2013.

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:47 PM | I don't believe he's visited (Score:2)
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I don't believe he's visited or said much about Michigan beyond the fact he held an offer. Personally, I think it's more likely Gibbs ends up in the class than Latham.

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May 5th, 2012 at 9:39 AM | From what I've heard, the (Score:2)
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From what I've heard, the coaches started recruiting Latham as a defensive tackle...and later informed him that they were looking at him more as an offensive lineman.  Since Michigan is full at offensive line, it seems that was kind of a polite way of saying that they're not interested in him anymore.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:29 PM | recruiting (Score:-1 Trolling)
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I really wish ace would come up with his own analysis instead of copying Steve wiltfong ,tom beaver and Sam Webb have to say. Seriously, I don't come to this site to reread what they have already said. There is zero new information here and zero of your own opinions

Hot girls we have problems too. We're just like you. Except we're hot.

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:33 PM | Then quit coming to this (Score:5 Normal)
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Then quit coming to this site. Problem solved. 

Those who stay will be champions!

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:37 PM | Maybe you need to worry about (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Maybe you need to worry about posting a little less. You need a girlfriend

Hot girls we have problems too. We're just like you. Except we're hot.

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:40 PM | Good god man, why do you have (Score:5 Normal)
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Good god man, why do you have to be such an asshole?

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:53 PM | A major function of ____day (Score:5 Normal)
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A major function of ____day recruiting is to be a link-dump of updates from all over.  This is a good thing.  I don't listen to Sam Webb much, I don't read the articles or forums at the previous sites, and I don't follow anyone on twitter.  So, Kyle, this post may not have been very useful for you, but it was for me. 

It sounds like you know everything already, so why come here in the first place?

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:53 PM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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May 4th, 2012 at 3:32 PM | "You need a girlfriend" (Score:5 Normal)
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...says the guy who read every Steve wiltfong ,tom beaver and Sam Webb recruiting article available and is now looking for another fix on MGB.  

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May 4th, 2012 at 4:51 PM | Well... (Score:1)
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Maybe "Kyle" needs to spend a little less time with Mr Hanky.

 

 

 

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May 5th, 2012 at 9:41 AM | You have 2,100 points.  He (Score:3 Normal)
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You have 2,100 points.  He has 2,900.  That's not a huge difference.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:39 PM | BTW...nice "hey look at me (Score:-1 Trolling)
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BTW...nice "hey look at me defend ace post" for more cyber credit for all these people that don't know you

Hot girls we have problems too. We're just like you. Except we're hot.

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:40 PM | Now you're just being a (Score:5 Normal)
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Now you're just being a douche.

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:57 PM | Now? (Score:5 Normal)
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Now?

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:41 PM | You're sending mixed messages (Score:5 Normal)
InterM
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Maybe all that "cyber credit" will help him get a girlfriend.

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:43 PM | Ha. I definitely do not need (Score:4 Normal)
GBOD79
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Ha. I definitely do not need a girlfriend. Married with a child. That keeps me plenty busy, except when the child is asleep and chores are done. 

Those who stay will be champions!

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May 4th, 2012 at 3:13 PM | Let's hook you up with a (Score:4 Normal)
a2_electricboogaloo
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Let's hook you up with a free ticket to La Paz!

USING GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF CAPS LOCK SINCE APRIL 2011

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May 4th, 2012 at 4:28 PM | Bolivian, party of one? (Score:4 Normal)
MGoneBlue
Joined: 05/30/2011
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Bolivian, party of one?

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May 5th, 2012 at 2:05 AM | I bet you make a great (Score:3 Normal)
brandanomano
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I bet you make a great drinking buddy. We should totally get some Appletinis sometime soon!

Special Teams means special times!

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:33 PM | There sure are some grouchy (Score:4 Normal)
RakeFight
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There sure are some grouchy people on the board today.

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May 4th, 2012 at 3:19 PM | I was just going to say (Score:5 Normal)
Bombadil
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I was just going to say between this and the Muskegon High School thread I see only two possibilities, either:

  1. The blog's been infected with Buzz Killingtons; or
  2. The sex offender Ace pointed out is upset and has taken up Mgoblog trolling in retaliation.

 

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May 4th, 2012 at 5:29 PM | Where have you been, fake (Score:2 Normal)
UMICH1606
Joined: 02/21/2010
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Where have you been, fake insider?

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:40 PM | I hate to be stereotypical (Score:5 Normal)
mmiicchhiiggaann
Joined: 01/31/2010
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I hate to be stereotypical but the guy in the photo looks exactly how I imagined a sex offender would.

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:41 PM | That look on his face does (Score:4 Normal)
74polSKA
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That look on his face does have a strange "it puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again" quality, no?

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:42 PM | I'm a firm believer that a (Score:1 Normal)
unWavering
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I'm a firm believer that a lot of (not all) stereotypes exist for good reason.

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:56 PM | Yeah, I'm praying that there (Score:5 Normal)
RakeFight
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Yeah, I'm praying that there will be something else posted on the front page soon.  If I have to look at that picture everytime I refresh mgoblog all weekend, I'm going to lose it.

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May 4th, 2012 at 5:33 PM | Seconded. Quick, frontpage (Score:3 Normal)
Needs
Joined: 08/05/2008
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Seconded.

Quick, frontpage that BISB diary, even if the math is questionable and the picture of Delta Burke remains up.

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May 4th, 2012 at 6:18 PM | How can we be sure which one (Score:-1 Flamebait)
coastal blue
Joined: 11/13/2010
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How can we be sure which one is the sex offender when Ace didn't identify him...?

 

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May 4th, 2012 at 2:39 PM | Very creepy. (Score:2)
74polSKA
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I am glad that OSU's compliance has put this guy on the authority's radar.  If he is blatantly violating the conditions of his probation regarding recruits, chances are he may still be dabbling in what got him in trouble in the first place.  I don't mean to judge, this just hits close to home.  Anyone else find it strange that Doug Archie can find registered sex offenders stalking recruits but he can't find his football players at tattoo parlors or used car lots?

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May 4th, 2012 at 7:37 PM | Each situation requires its own response. (Score:2)
Yeoman
Joined: 06/08/2011
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I don't think a call to Atty. Cicero would work this time. This one can't be swept under the rug.

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May 4th, 2012 at 3:20 PM | Is Thaddeus Snodgrass a (Score:1)
bacon1431
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Is Thaddeus Snodgrass a priority for 2014? If not, he should be.

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
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May 4th, 2012 at 10:21 PM | Thaddeus Snodgrass (Score:4 Normal)
WoodleyIsBeast
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Sounds like a character from Harry Potter

Hail To The Victors!

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May 4th, 2012 at 3:26 PM | MAQUEDIUS BAIN (Score:5 Normal)
Yinka Double Dare
Joined: 06/30/2008
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Shall be known as MaqBain and accompanied by this image.  THAT'S THE JOKE.

Boom Simpsoned

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May 4th, 2012 at 3:40 PM | Brilliant (Score:5 Normal)
Ace
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I'm pissed I didn't think of that first. I guess I should expect nothing less from the poster with arguably the best username on the board.

"Recruiting Ninja" | Email | Twitter

 

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May 4th, 2012 at 3:28 PM | In that picture (Score:1)
Other Andrew
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Which one is the sex offender? I mean, there's no captiion or anything. Oh, he's the one that's too tubby to pick up shoulder pads off the floor? Ah, ok, got it.

Road Games is another blog

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May 4th, 2012 at 3:29 PM | Forgiveness please (Score:2 Redundant)
Other Andrew
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I swear this was funnier in my head. Need moar sleep.

Road Games is another blog

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May 4th, 2012 at 3:39 PM | Just blame (Score:4 Normal)
ChuckieWoodson
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it on the other Andrew.

Apology accepted, as I was thinking about putting something similar and then thought better of it. 

"In 1923, Babe Ruth broke the record for most home runs in a season. That same year, he also broke the record for highest batting average.

There is a third record he broke that year that most people don't know about. In 1923, Babe Ruth struck out more times than any other player in Major League Baseball."

So you keep trying buddy, you'll hit your home run soon enough.

"Touchdown... No flags!!"

Founder and current Commisioner of the ITGPD - Internet Tough Guy Police Department, est. 2012

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May 5th, 2012 at 12:11 AM | except... (Score:1 Flamebait)
ChopBlock
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that he didn't set the home run record OR the batting average record (although his .393 mark is a Yankee record). He did strike out the most of any season in his career though. 

/boombaseballreferenced

"The straightest line from A to B is straight: From A to B"

"When you have Denard Robinson, you can have everything"

~George Walden

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May 4th, 2012 at 6:37 PM | I'm not sure about the other (Score:1 Overrated)
Victor Hale II
Joined: 12/28/2011
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I'm not sure about the other 3 guys, but I am guessing the guy from Florida is the one wearing the fleece.  Pffft...what a pussy.

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May 4th, 2012 at 3:31 PM | So, (Score:2)
ChuckieWoodson
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I will say given the context of the article it is a bit weird one of them is pointing to the guy like "he's the man".  

Bring out the gimp!... Zed's dead baby... Zed's dead...

"Touchdown... No flags!!"

Founder and current Commisioner of the ITGPD - Internet Tough Guy Police Department, est. 2012

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May 4th, 2012 at 3:38 PM | Something to keep an eye on (Score:3 Normal)
Center Ice
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There is a rumor Alex Anzalone has decommitted.

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May 4th, 2012 at 3:46 PM | Rumor confirmed. Tough not to (Score:5 Normal)
Ace
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Rumor confirmed. Tough not to wonder about the timing.

"Recruiting Ninja" | Email | Twitter

 

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May 4th, 2012 at 7:24 PM | Alex @11W confirms that it's not a coincidence (Score:2)
dnak438
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"Can't go into too many details but this is 100% about the BdubsCreeper" (link)

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May 4th, 2012 at 3:58 PM | Hopefully Mattison is on the (Score:3 Normal)
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Hopefully Mattison is on the phone to Bosa right now.

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