Just curious, but do you know him personally? We could probabyl start with how do we know he's really some millionaire wasting his time on college football boards, and not just some kid in his mom's basement?
Friday Recruitin' Clones RVB
Hey, kids. Ace is off for the next week and I return to recruiting roundup duties.
Poggi: I don't care that it's not pronounced like that, I'll get nostalgic for slammers anyway
I never played pogs so I may be off on the lingo. Anyway.
Anyway… MD DT Henry Poggi jumped on a Michigan offer recently, sending the usual folks to scouts to tell us what we've won. Mike Farrell makes it sound like we've won Ryan Van Bergen 2.0($):
There's not an ounce of baby fat left on him, and he's got a frame to hold 285 pounds without losing a step. The player Gilman assistant Henry Russell once said played with a "ridiculous" motor never came off the field between tight end and defensive tackle, but he never slowed down, either, "a tribute to his character." …
"Henry is athletic and quick, but he's very technically sound, too. He does a really good job with his arms and gets off the snap, doesn't lose balance. If you try to cut him or go low in traffic, he's very good at keeping his feet."
RVB barely came off the field in his last three years and always—always—kept his feet. Poggi is a bit shorter and may be more of a quick-twitch guy; otherwise that's a tight comparison.
I hear your Opening has an… opening
Nike's high-falutin' big time big timer camp with the artsy name continues to issue invitations to Michigan recruits. IL OL Kyle Bosch is the eighth Michigan commit to get a trip to Oregon paid for, joining Logan Tuley-Tillman, Shane Morris, David Dawson, Jourdan Lewis, Mike McCray, Taco Charlton, and Jake Butt. Serious targets Laquon Treadwell, Leon McQuay III, and Joe Mathis (hey, top three at this instant) are also scheduled to attend. That is a lot of names I would normally bold if they weren't crammed together so tightly.
I'll be most interested in how McCray, Butt, and LTT show up. By this point we know what Morris and Dawson and Lewis and Charlton are (probably) going to do; the previous three haven't been making as much noise on the camp scene or, in LTT's case, are working their way back into healthy shape.
Joe Mathis knows how to plan a visit
Tim Sullivan catches up with CA DE Joe Mathis, who backs off his stated top three of Washington, Nebraska, and Michigan a little bit in favor of a broader top ten, declares he'll officially visit Hawaii—a team not in his top ten—and says Michigan sees the 6'3", 245 pound end as (surprise!) a Baltimore Raven($):
"When they've talked to me, they want me to play like a Terrell Suggs of the Baltimore Ravens," he said. "That's kind of the defensive player they'd want me to be at Michigan, a standup defensive end."
That would make him a WDE, which is plausible. He also mentions probable officials to Arizona State and Michigan. If those come off like that you might begin to feel cautiously good about landing Mathis—an official to sort of stated leader but not other sort of stated leaders would seem to bode well. Except this is one of those shapeshifting recruits, so… yeah. In an article just a day later($), Mathis says he'll visit Michigan and Washington officially but isn't sure about going back to Nebraska because he was there for four days and thus risks death by boredom if he ever returns*. In an article a day after that one($), Mathis says he is "definitely" visiting Michigan for the OSU game—which is in Columbus—and may go to LSU for their game against Alabama.
Next week: Mathis declares Miami his leader and that he is a peanut butterfly.
*[this may not be an exact quote]
2014 Caremeter: incrementing
The pool of 2014 players who are not random names to be googled if they become relevant at a future date incremented by one after the Sound Mind, Sound Body camp when Cass Tech CB/WR Damon Webb picked up a Michigan offer. He joins DE Malik McDowell as an in-state kid with an offer widely regarded to be a Michigan lean; add in Todd Howard protégé Parrker Westphal—still not a typo—and those are your contenders for first 2014 commit. Ace covered Webb's impressive performance at the SMSB camp yesterday…
Webb turned heads a couple weeks ago when he blanketed Laquon Treadwell at the IMG 7-on-7 and he built on that with an MVP-worthy performance yesterday. Despite being a year younger, Webb has more bulk on his 5'11" frame than his teammate Jourdan Lewis, and like Lewis he's an outstanding athlete.
Also like Lewis, Webb can play either wide receiver or cornerback at the next level, though his size suggests that corner is his optimal position. He was fantastic playing corner in the one-on-one drills, staying step-for-step with Lewis—though Jourdan managed to bring in a diving catch—and 2013 Notre Dame commit James Onwualu, who was torching the less-heralded prospects. Webb faced Onwualu three times, and aside from slipping on a hitch route, he came out on top.
…and someone asked Allen Trieu for a instate top ten($) on the Scout message board that featured Webb #3 behind McDowell and Grand Rapids dual-sport star Drake Harris, who will play wideout if he picks football for college. Those three players were a cut above a trailing group of nine including all three Cass linebackers and yet another Bullough from Traverse City who will be an early commit to Michigan State. This one's named Byron.
Webb looks like he'll extend Cass Tech's streak of sending a corner recruit to a BCS school to a remarkable six straight years. They're even growing them a little bigger these days.
As for where Webb might end up…
“It would play a factor,” he explained. “I’d be comfortable there. I’d know that. And that’s a main factor - feeling comfortable.”
“I’m looking for comfortablity in a college and I would like my parents to come see me and play. That’s a big factor too. If I’m comfortable there, and then the education – if they have my major and what I plan to study.”
…Michigan's in decent shape.
As for McDowell, Matt Pargoff caught up with him. He's playing it cool these days:
“I went for the spring game … Michigan was real fun. All the coaches had their attention on me. I got to talk to all the coaches besides Brady Hoke. He was stuck talking to reporters.
“It was real fun. The crowd was real hyped. It wasn’t as big as a normal Big House game, but it was still fun.”
He says a decision won't come until he's in the midst of his senior year. I bet that timeline changes.
Elsewhere in 2014 recruits to maybe care about some, early five-star OL Damian Prince tells 247 he's "really interested($)" in Michigan and Tremendous catches up with FL OL Mason Cole, who claims offers from M, OSU, and Florida amongst others. Cole moved from Chicago when he was eight and still has a ton of family in the area; he's also planning a visit in early August. He'll be one to keep an eye on.
Other SMSB Takes
You've read Ace's take on things from the camp unless you're a bad person. Others are also saying things about activities. 247's Clint Brewster($) on Shane Morris's showing:
Morris dropped-jaws with his impeccable footwork and ultra-quick release. Morris is so smooth and sound in his mechanics and can effortlessly fire the ball down field with just a quick flick of his wrist. Morris has also bulked up to over 200 pounds of solid muscle. The future couldn’t look any brighter for Michigan with Morris under center.
I'll take it. The rest of the article continues in that vein about Michigan recruits, though, so you may want to take that with a grain of salt.
Maize and Blue News has takes on the relevant folks in attendance, and the evaluations are on the more credible end of things. Pargoff's take on LTT:
OL Logan Tuley-Tillman – Peoria (Ill.)
Tuley-Tillman noted that he has lost a fair amount of weight recently, but still has some pounds to drop. The latter part of that statement was evident, though the improved conditioning appeared to help his game. He wasn’t as impressive as Dawson, but had a solid showing overall. There were some good reps and some not so good ones.
The biggest area for improvement right now remains conditioning. He has the feet and the athleticism to play at the Big Ten level, but he still needs to drop some fat and replace it with muscle.
Webb, Dawson, York, and Morris also feature.
Josh Helmholdt also breaks down the OL and DL. David Dawson:
Dawson only attended the first day of the camp, but was the standout of the offensive line group as he has been at several of the recent camps he has attended in the last few months. Physically, Dawson is starting to develop his upper body, which was an area that was lacking earlier in his career. His strength, as a result, has also improved and he is unbeatable once he locks on to defenders. Dawson always brings a passion to compete and shows good leadership skills as well.
Malik McDowell, meanwhile, arrived at the camp looking "noticeably thicker" and is now a strapping 280 pounds. LTT "did a good job handling a very capable group of speed rushers and was much lighter on his feet than his last performance."
Allen Trieu's defensive recap says McDowell was possibly the best player there despite being a rising junior($) and has the usual level of praise for Jourdan Lewis:
Michigan commit Jourdan Lewis again locked up nearly everyone he went up against. He has great feet, change of direction and excellent ball skills. His long arms allow him to play a little bigger than his listed size too.
OH WR Jaron Dukes is committed to Michigan, and Michigan is committed to him. This is news because one of the Ohio State insiders ("Nevadabuck," if you follow things closely enough to have heard of random internet insiders with occasionally-accurate information and a massively inflated view of themselves) claimed that Michigan was dropping the kid. A flurry of worried phone calls later and there's the usual array of clearing-the-air-type articles($).
Nothing to see here, etc. Michigan loves them some oversized WRs with large catching radii, and Dukes is that in spades.
CA WR Darren Carrington, a new offeree from Hoke's old stomping grounds in San Diego, is tentatively planning on camping($). 2014 IL LB Clifton Garrett plans a visit to Michigan($) for the BBQ. GRIII's younger brother, 2014 IN LB Gelen Robinson, will attend Michigan's camp($). Here's an article on… guh… a class of 2015 QB from Canada. Already 6'5", though. 2014 OH QB DeShone Kizer on a recent Illinois offer($): ""Being from Ohio, I really don't know a lot about Illinois yet." Ouch.
Two OL Michigan would normally be in on but for having all the OL already: Cass Tech OL Dennis Finley has just blown up, getting offers from Wisconsin, MSU, and OSU after his SMSB showing, and Eleven Warriors talks with OH OL Matt Miller, the younger brother of center heir apparent Jack Miller, after his appearance at OSU's camp.
I know who he is. You can figure it out on Google pretty easily. I think his wealth comes primarily from his father, but he's got a few ventures of his own. Supposedly, he's also friends with Colin Cowherd, since he gave him his first job in the industry.
His father has donated quite a bit of money to the OSU athletic department. I assume nevadabuck is no different. With money, comes connections and access.
I'm not sure how being wealthy affects anything. It's not like people with money are more honest. The only thing anyone gets from posting that stuff is ego related. Wallet doesn't come into it.
And I'm not sure how his money gets him info, unless he's pating people off for tips. Most of that groundwork is laid by time, not money. The way TomVH got it done. If you have a real job, it would hurt more than it helped.
You don't think money gets people access and information? If this weren't the internet, I'd pinch your cheeks and pat you on the head.
Have you ever donated money to a museum? I have, and you get all sorts of "extra" access. Early invites to exhibits, private showings, chance to talk to experts, etc. Donating to the athletic department is no different. To take things to an extreme, don't you think that Phil Knight has more access to the Oregon staff than the average fan?
I know you don't want to believe the rumor. That's fine. I'm just laying out the facts. Nevadabuck is a legit source with access.
Does he have more access to Ohio athletics? Probably. But as his family isn't a donor (as far as anyone knows) the the Unversity of Michigan, every high school program in the tri-state area, the major recruiting services, or every recruit out there directly (though you never know on the last one with Ohio State) he's not gaining any access to the main areas of knowledge in this particular situation. If he says "Meyer's staff is really high on this guy", or "they don't think so and so is a Big Ten prospect", or whatever, than yeah, sure, he can hear those things with access. Is money a magic mirror that makes you know everything, even about those you're not giving any money to? Then no. And if coaches and players are telling recruiting guys and such that they're going after a player and he likes a school I don't think they're suddenly going to tell the son of a guy "yeah, we took his commitment, but we're yanking it now" no matter what his dad built on campus. You donating to the museum gets you a tour....but they're not going to tell you what painting they're in negotiation to acquire, in case it falls through. Unless you're giving them the money to get it.
So you're not really laying out any "facts". You have no idea what he has access to, and who's feeding him information. And the few things he has "facts" about most likely directly relate to Ohio State. His reach outside of that isn't really any greater than anyone else. Because if TomVH donates $0 to U-M and Nevedabuck donates $0 to U-M (or X high school, or Y recruiting service), they have the same standing. None. So yes, I'll go with the people who do the leg work, because that money is not getting him any more access than anyone else. He's effectively the poor guy anywhere that's not in Columbus. Unless he's donating to every football organization in the Midwest, in which case he won't be a rich guy for very long.
Great post Ace!
It was posted by Brian which is why it was actually good.
I take it some people don't want to admit that Ace is just horrible at this. No more excuses for being new, been on the job for a while and the kid is just terrible.
What exactly are you looking for then? Gold laced recruiting write ups? Do you even READ Ace's interviews with these kids? He does a great job finding out what they're all about without pushing an obvious Michigan agenda. His style is without question his own, and not the same as Brian's, but that's what makes the Blog great. Plenty of inputs from different styles.
And as far as style goes, you...you have none.
In other recruiting news, former Michigan recruit and current OSU decommit Alex Anzalone rubbed salt in the wounds of all OSU fans who continue to suffer the realization that Urban Meyer cannot, in fact, "get them if he wants them." After weeks of insisting that he is still interested in OSU, he stated earlier this week that he would do his best to stop by Columbus on his way home from ND today to "talk to the OSU coaches personally," and subsequently drove right by.
Honk if you're about to commit to ND!
Not worthy of a separate thread and I couldn't start one if I wanted to anyway, but Adam Brenneman (5* PSU commit) tore his ACL. Hate to see that, but a good reason for committing early - AFAIK, PSU will honor the scholarship.
I was really hoping Dukes Kerfuffle was the name of a new recruit. NOTY 2014 contender