Free Speech Repealed Until Monday (Again)
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Henri the Otter of Ennui is the new mascot of posting restrictions.
Post-Illinois restrictions back: 20 to comment, 500 to start new threads/diaries. Will be in effect until Monday morning.
Justification I probably don't need to provide: seriously dislike new registrants who sign up just to flame and would rather proactively cut them off than have to read it. Criticism is fine from people who have established themselves as part of the community.
No problem with the ban.
But please note that seeing a big problem with the program does not mean that one is "flaming" or an "idiot" or "douchebag", etc. It's just a disagreement.
If the goal is to have a good exchange of ideas, maybe the groupthink isn't so great. You can have 28343767 points, but that won't make the team any better. We all love the program. not all have to agree that RR is the answer.
Enhance your calm, mgoblog people. Projections were for this team to go 6-6 or 5-7. Try not to let the 4-0 start fool you. It was exciting and fooled me a bit, too. :)
Should UM have beat Purdue? Probably.
Should they have beat ND? Probably not.
UW is a better team - this year. I'm assuming that the defense will be better next year.
However, nothing matters if the NCAA violations come through. Then we'll be shopping for a new coach. Yikes.
However......... Win or Loose I'm MAZE and BLUE !!!! This Team needs FAN support more than EVER!
Forcier isn't the issue. He played well early in the season, hit a rough patch in the middle, and now he's playing pretty well again. You can't expect much more from a true freshman.
The offense is producing. Perhaps not as well as we would like, but we scored 36 points last week and 24 this week. Thirty-six points should be enough to win; twenty-four should be enough to at least have a chance at the end.
This team's weakness is its defensive back seven.
And it's not conditioning. It's mental. These guys have the strength and speed to contend in the second half. But opposing coaches figure out our weaknesses, and frankly, we don't adjust very well. I don't know if that's on the coaches or the players.
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It's better to be silent and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
Totally agree that Tate's not the issue this year, but the defense, and that it's not conditioning, but lack of coaching adjustments. I'm also looking past the obvious defensive disaster we put out there each week. I'm just trying to picture Tate running a nationally competetive offense, and I can't see it. Now, if we had the '97 defense with this offense maybe that would be different. I'd love for him to prove me wrong, though.
He is one of the bright spots this year. He did miss two long touchdown passes though. One to Stonum and one to Matthews which could have made a big difference at the time.
Also, our offense only scored 17 points and was shut down in the red zone twice. The offense did not play very well, especially in the second half. We had to go for it on 4th down to keep one drive going. Vincent Smith looked decent but our offensive line is struggling.
And finally special teams is a disaster. Missed field goal and roughing the kicker kept our team from being up at halftime.
I love Michigan, and think Rodriguez will make it work eventually. I think we are giving too much blame for our problems to the defense though. While they are bad, our offense and special teams play have made costly mistakes over the last four games.
MOVED
We're there, until the 2nd half. That means coaching or conditioning. I'd hate to question conditioning or Barwis would track me down and make me run steps. These losses are knife-twisting stab in the heart gut-wrenching kicks in the soul dong. We're there in these damn games. I watched this one again with my dad, and pointed out the obvious turning point in this game (the B.S. roughing the kicker call). He cried a little. These kids are better than their record. Ugghhhh. I drove 4 hours to watch the game with my dad, my little girl made sick in the car (McDonald's pancakes in case you were wondering), and after all that, the defense smelled worse than recycled A/C returned pancakes. Tate can't be a 4 year starter. Period. It's not like he's 6'5" with a cannon and just making bad choices. He'll never get us where we want us.
Tate'll be alright. He's a freshman; he's making freshman mistakes.
All I know is that Michigan is my team and I'm going to cheer my heart out for them this Saturday and I'm looking forward to the future of this team.
Are about the only things I like about um football at this pernt. Thank you Brian for the one joy I have in connection to this gut wrenching season, further proof if I ever needed any, that providence is neither benevolent nor a Michigan fan. As I said before (and, it should be noted negbanged for my prescience), no motor city bowl for us, just bitter bitter disappointment. I hope rr gets one more year despite this debaucle caused by carr, ridiculously high attrition and rr himself. Here's hoping rr takes responsibility for his part in this mess instead of making excuses.
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No question, Jim.
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When did Michigan fans care about the Motor City Bowl? The additional practice time would be awesome yes but why are we judging RichRod on whether or not he goes 6-6?
Perhaps it's that difficult for us to comprehend that our team simply isn't as talented as we're used to being. We need to give RR time to get the ship straight - and I don't think anyone would argue that the team on the field looks drastically better than it did last year - even if it still isn't good enough to win.
I just care about how he performs in the rivalry games and if the team can compete with top tier competition. We have a win against Notre Dame which is mildly satisfying. Now we just need to hope for a 1969-level upset next weekend and get better next year (esp on Defense) so we can move one step further.
Save the negativity for when we're actually expected to do well and field a team that's competitive on both sides of the ball. Hopefully that's next year.
is irrelevant. If there are talented Juniors and Seniors returning who know what it takes to win the the Big 10, the extra practice and game experience are not needed.
Teams trying to find an identity or, god forbid, rebuilding are different. This team is young and needs the repetition, coaching, extra practice time, and game experience the bowl bid provides. Recruiting needs the additional exposure and good press of playing in December/January. This team needs the work.
With the NCAA reductions in scholarships for football, parity is what's discussed. Parity also means former powerhouse programs take longer to reload when they hit a rough spot. ND is entering their second decade of mediocre, the extra time provided by a bowl bid allows borderline players to elevate and refines stars for the following year. Let's let continue to suck and change this.
I'm happy to hear you found the the win versus ND mildly satisfying. Personally, I've found UM not winning one against MSU, Purdue or Illinois sucked the joy out of the domer W.
Winning Saturday changes everything, but I'm tempering my expecatations given the defense has allowed big plays to every team but DSU this year.
Win, or lose, it's still my school. I'm an alum. Michigan is tough for everyone- it's tough for Rich Rod right now, but he will either succeed, or not. It's up to him, so long as we give him enough time. Change takes time.
still my favorite team.
Go Blue!
Infinity can only happen once. Think about that.
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I just watched the Stanford/USC game (in hopes of getting over the U of M game faster) and until I saw this game I was a very strong supporter of Rich Rod. Then I saw what Harbaugh was doing to USC with Stanford (STANFORD!!!!) players. I think that more than anything else is really making me question everything. I still like the Rich Rod offense but I feel there are too many bone head decisions --> QB run on 3rd and goal (when the RB got 2-3 yards every rush), starting Kovacs after the last 2 weeks, etc.
I know Harbaugh dissed Michigan but I think with Martin moving on there is now a chance for Harbaugh to get the job, unless he goes to the NFL.
"starting Kovacs after the last 2 weeks, etc."
Is there another safety, somewhere on the roster that you're certain is going to play better? Also, frankly, Mike Williams performance was not exactly stellar, either.
is dead to me.
So what you are saying is that you would write off a coach who has gone 3-9 and 5-6 so far in his first two years in order to get a coach who went 4-8 and 5-7 in his first two years?
Our helmets got wings
Umm, Harbaugh is at STANFORD. They were 1-11 the year before he got there. Just making a bowl is a very good year for them. And that 4-8 record includes a win over their bitter rival and one of the biggest upsets in college football history. There's no comparison.
Having said that, it'll never happen. RichRod deserves more time; we're not at the point where we need to be talking about who the next coach should be. And even if we were, Harbaugh burned his bridges with that SF Chronicle interview and is unlikely to be welcomed back.
beat usc. which we never did, even with lloyd.
not to mention oregon.
but its okay because rrs got oklahomas number
lloyd was better.
I completely agree with the moratorium. What's really begun pissing me off, though, is the general decline in the quality of the discussion on the site.
The posting by "trusted" sources is still great. But, even the diaries have devolved into one of two memes: 1) (All caps used deliberately) "RICH ROD AND THE COACHES SUCK YO THEY NEED TO BE FIRED THIS ISN'T MICHIGAN FOOTBALL!!!!!!!" or 2) We can't fire the coaches, that would be suicidal! What did we expect without a real defense?"
The board posts are even worse. Most are not even worth reading. They're almost as useless as the debates on the floor of the UN General Assembly.
I would like to see a higher point total required. Its been suggested before that there be a review panel for new boards and diaries until a user crosses a (high) points threshold. Maybe that would return the discussions to topics more thought provoking.
The other teams could make trouble for us if they win.
Quality of discussion goes exponentially worse as the frustration at losing grows. Also, it's the internet, dude, you've got to expect the ALL CAPS RAGE from time to time.
Its been suggested before that there be a review panel for new boards and diaries until a user crosses a (high) points threshold. Maybe that would return the discussions to topics more thought provoking.
Or, it could stifle input from users with new accounts, lead to groupthink from whoever is in charge of approving submissions, and cause significant delays in our abilities to discuss events as they happen.
I've seen this kind of idea proposed and even implemented on other sites, and it usually doesn't end well. It's a lot easier to do your own mental filtering. Don't like the topic? Your browser has a back button. Think the post is worthless? Just keep scrolling by. Suggesting some kind of system revolving around points (which, as we all know, are worthless) is an idea that won't end well.
On the other hand, it might prevent a "BuckNuts" kind of melt down after every loss. "Mental filtering" would be great, if it weren't for the fact that after a loss, folks get on this site, flame everyone but the guy who runs the hot dog stands, and create 40 new board posts that all scream one of two things: "Fire Rod", and "Have Patience".
The other teams could make trouble for us if they win.
My opinion is that this is the same defense that couldn't stop anyone above MAC level all year. With the limitations of the personnel in the back 7, there's only so much any scheme can do. Cover up a weakness in one area, and it opens up a gaping wound somewhere else. As Brian has said with respect to football, 2010 can't come fast enough.
On the positive side, can anyone remember the last time Michigan basketball ever had a 50 point lead in a game?
I loved how disappointed the crowd was that the team didn't make it 100. They really wanted Eso to shoot a three in the last 5 seconds.
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Vogrich and Morris are Ridiculous. Vogrich sunk 5 3's on either 5 or 6 shots.
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I would be in favor of the restriction all week leading to/after this weeks game. The board is much better tonight than last saturday night.
This is going to be a HUGE week for recruiting and the game could have much larger implications than just a win/loss this year.
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If you get any more emails cussing you out, you should post a diary with the best quotes from them. It would make my season better.
I lost the bet. Something (Adrian) witty will end up here as soon as I think of it.
Wish I had gone to med school.
Right about now, some Intra-venous valium would help enormously.
Beer doesn't help. The bottles are projectiles, and the animals in the house wouldn't be safe.
beer or valium wouldn't help me much as I am more depressed than anything. I think I could use an upper or two to give me a kick start....jk
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That's right, Dude. 100% certain.
I'm listening to the BB audio. What did Evan Turner say to Zack Novak?
War Jim Harbaugh.
To quote Muhammad Ali, speaking through a broken jaw after the first Frazier fight: "Get the guns. We're going to set the traps."
Brian,
Thanks again as we approach infinite pain levels.
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Mgoblog doesn't need to be part of a "Michigan Schadenfreude" (if they even know what it means) thread on RCMB or any of the OSU boards; your actions should help a lot. Besides, I think I will have to take an MSM vacation this week and stick to mgoblog, umhoops, and a few other blogs. I want to be somewhere where people actually think there is a chance of an upset in the Big House next week, and I hope to discuss UM football without the negativity in the MSM.
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Tater,
I have a stephen hopkins update from texas HS playoff game. Ididnt want to get it lost in this post but I only have 150 or so points. I dont mind the censorship but was hoping someone would put up a thread titled Stephen Hopkins update and I would fill in the numbers.
Help a Texan out here?
Does Henri play linebacker? Safety?
Defensive Tackle.
I lost the bet. Something (Adrian) witty will end up here as soon as I think of it.
The naysayers are not going to be happy about this one.
Is anyone that pissed off? Wisconsin was the better team, I expected a loss, and there weren't any "get my pitchfork ma" calls. I wish we could have kept up our performance in the second half, but thus is life. We're showing improvement and I've got hope for next year.
While I also have hope for the future, this was the first game I started to question Rich Rod. I also expected a loss, but there were multiple times when they ran on first down for little or no gain, ran the exact same play for little or no gain, and then were forced into 3rd and long. If not for Forcier and the pass game, it would have been much uglier.
Well without Minor, Brown and the running game, the entire rest of the season would have been a lot uglier. In games like the Wisky game, you do what you do best and try to steal a win. How many times have you seen Minor or Brown run the ball on second down for 10+ yard this year? I can say with absolute certainty that there have been many times that has happened.
If you want to question RR, that is fine I guess. You are a fan and have the right to your opinion. I think in this case, however, your reason for said questioning makes little sense. This is only my e-pinion however.
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thank god. Too many emotions.
Then again, if BB kills tonight, focus and attitude may change.