No, you are not alone. I don't even like the Bemidji State game, to be honest (Yes I realize it could have been a whole lot worse, but this is no gimme, either).
Wow. After years of screwing one and two-seeded Michigan teams, the committee went off the reservation and gave Michigan the kindest possible draw in the history of draws:
1. Miami vs. 4. Alabama-Huntsville
2. Bemidji State vs 3. Michigan
That bracket is crazy better than going to Massachusetts to play WCHA champion North Dakota and facing a probable road game against BC if you survive that. Michigan gets to play virtual home games against Bemidji, the #8 overall seed—North Dakota is #5—and probably Miami, a team they just beat handily. I have no idea why the committee would do this except the big one: attendance. Fort Wayne is now going to be packed and Michigan's chances of making it to Detroit probably just doubled. This is totally unfair for the rest of the field.
UPDATE: Just to emphasize what a favor the committee just did Michigan, everyone thinks KRACH is a much better rating system than the Pairwise. KRACH has North Dakota 4th and Bemidji 13th. In its world, Michigan is 10th and actually a favorite in the first round game. Of course, then Michigan has to take on #2 Miami instead of #5 BC, but I'll take it.
UPDATE II: Tickets here.
an elite team to get to the FF regardless of the bracket, Denver has been right behind Miami all year and could either be a smart upset pick since they lost their last 2 (first 2 game losing streak of the year!) or could rebound huge and end up being even better than expected. Wisco is very, very solid. We split two very close games with them, with some controversy in the loss, but they definitely scare me. Boston College doesn't really scare me, but the Sioux do. They're probably the only team in the country that's as hot as we are right now and I feel like we never match up well against them. As for the other two seeds, Cornell is also on a roll, has a great goalie and I think their slow, defensive style could really frustrate our offense into taking dumb penalties if we're not careful. I don't know much about SCSU but they did well in the SEC-by-which-I-mean-WCHA. Bemidji didn't have the most impressive regular season against real opponents, but had some solid wins over Miami and some other good teams and definitely showed up in the NCAA's last year. NorDak and Cornell definitely scare me more than Bemidji though and they're not a surprise to be overlooked this year.
I feel like Miami always has a massive score to settle. I was terrified thinking about how they lost to OSU once in the quarters they would be pissed enough to level us and that didn't happen, so I'm pretty much over them and their mightier-than-thou-righteous-anger-strength-of-the-gods aura. Divine mandate and dynasties aren't really my thing, I'm American, democracy is more my style. Every bracket has one team that scares me that we'd likely have to beat. It's only 16 teams, they're all going to be pretty/really good. Miami is good yes and listening to their fan base you would think their team played the worst game of their collective lives and still barely lost to us by the slimmest of 3 goal margins, including about 20 posts, the 3,967 "Easy" rebounds Hunwick left that they didn't get to and a ton of horrible calls against them. False, Miami played really well the first 2.5 periods and outside of the first 5ish, Michigan outplayed them. There was some luck involved, of course, it is hockey, but the game wasn't really all that close. They had some good chances that didn't go in that either Hunwick came up big on or our defense played great, but we had more. I don't think Michigan had it in them to play a better game, honestly, they were literally diving for pucks all over the place, blocking shots, taking hits to make the play and whatever else. Miami does the same, we both play up to our potential, that's an incredible game that's decided purely by lucky breaks, but if Michigan plays the same way they did against them last time and Miami doesn't up the ante to more than they've done this year (yes, more, they were playing as well as they have this year, I think, or pretty close to it, just not out of their minds like Michigan), it's Michigan's game. I would be more worried about Michigan able to play that game again. The Michigan that showed up against Northern would have needed a miracle to beat the Miami that showed up against Michigan. And the Michigan that Northern played was playing very well, for the most part. Miami takes everything personally, I've honestly gotten really tired of their fan base. Miami is a great, great team, but I'm not going to be scared of them when we can be just as good.
This team massively underachieved in the season, but they got it together and they're in the NCAA. They're playing their best hockey of the season. Whatever happens now is pretty much what would have happened if pre-season prediction Michigan shows up the whole season. If they lose to Miami, if they lose to Bemidji, so be it. For what it's worth, this season is already better than last year where we dominated much of the regular season and then lost the two most important games of the season, back to back. Any more upsets (it feels so weird to think of Michigan winning as an upset) are pure gravy. Last season's team was ashamed to lose to Air Force, this team, I think can hold it's head high, if Bemidji creams them 20-2. None of us, especially the team, would be happy ending the season in a loss, I think, but after the season for them and Michigan sports in general the last couple weeks have been a small miracle and if the magic runs out, the magic runs out. For the first time in (my) living memory, for a significant part of the season Michigan wasn't supposed to make the tournament. And they did.
This has been far, far longer than I intended, I got emotional, so I'm just going to wrap it up and say that I'm just going to enjoy the game(s) next weekend and look forward to a bright future.
Better than BC in Boston. I think Wisconsin in St. Paul would be marginally better. Pseudo home ice is worth a lot for us.
It's not like Denver, Wisconsin, or BC are easier second round draws. I'd rather face a team that we've played 3 times already this year and out played in 2 of those 3 games. Plus I'm quite happy about not facing North Dakota or Cornell in the opening round. The only other draw that's slightly appealing is SCSU/Wisconsin, and even then you're still playing at what will probably be virtual home games for Wisconsin.
There are certainly those who think that KRACH is the better system, but I just want to point out that under that system there are 7 WCHA teams that would have gotten auto-bids (6 in the top 9!) including 3 that didn't make the tourney- CC, Duluth, and Minny. CC and Duluth would be seeded ahead of Michigan and Minnesota would make the field with a losing record (although I think that after the Wisconsin getting an at-large bid a few years ago with a .500 record they might have changed the rule so that you have to be above .500 to get an at-large bid, but we're still talking in the hypothetical KRACH world here).
This is all due to the emphasis the KRACH places on the strength of schedule. Look closely, the 10 WCHA teams are all in the top 10 in SOS, hence the discrepancy favoring the WCHA. In some ways KRACH makes more sense than the Pairwise (which has its own issues with the TUC-cliff, comparing a small sampling of common opponents, or like with Notre Dame a few years ago where they would have been better off putting the puck in their own net in the CCHA playoffs and taking the loss rather than the win), but I have to question a system that leans so heavily on one comparison- SOS.
IMO, you can always find things you don't like about rankings in a particular year. However, a lot of wierd things happen with the current system: for instance, after UM beat Miami of Ohio, UM actually fell in the pairwise ranks, while idle MSU rose. I am not sure why, presumably it was because former MSU opponents won in their tourneys but that result should not have outweighed a much more direct indicant of team quality: UM's win over the #1 or #2 team in the nation.
Also, UM was in the top 14 of Krach going into the series at the Jo but would have been shut out of the NCAA if it beat the (now #1 team in the nation) but lost the one after (to NMU). However, under Krach, since the 1-1 split at the Jo would have included an outstanding win and a not-so-bad loss to a tourney team I think that UM would have made the tourney. That is due to the emphais on SOS.
The bottom line, however, is not even in these examples but in the methods themselves. The current system double counts or even triple counts some wins or losses (ie RPI plus TUC sometimes plus COp). Also, the current pairwise method includes a badly flawed RPI measure, which is artificially "tweaked" in an arbitrary to try to lessen some biases but then creates other biases in the process.
Whereas, Krach can predict the teams actual WL record. That's only way to really evaluate the rating methods fairly: to see how they predict actual results.
IF enough people feel strongly about Krach overweighting SOS, it would be possible to lower the emphasis given to this factor, somewhat as the BCS takes margin of victory out of the equation--although the latter, I think is more justifiable. Remember though, if we lessen the use of SOS, you will sometimes find a lot of qualifiers from very weak conferences keeping teams like UM out of the tournament or putting them in a much worse seed. We will always be able to find something we do not like.
we were dead in the water.
Now we are playing 150 miles from Ann Arbor for a chance to make the Frozen Four at Ford Field.
I feel damn good about this draw.
Does anyone know what sections are "Michigan Sections" at the Coliseum. I am the rare Michigan Hockey fan living in Indiana, and can't wait to see the Wolverines. I just don't want to get stuck sitting with a bunch of Miami fans. Let me know asap. Thanks...Go Blue!
Don't know what section the Michigan section but I am sure if you buy your tickets through the Michigan athletic department then you will be placed in the "Michigan Section"
Details are here: http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/032110aaa.html
As far as I can tell from the documents on the NCAA website, Michigan will be in the Section 220-222-224-226 corner.
Miami will be in the Section 219-221-223-225 corner.
Bemidji will be in the Section 205-207-209-211 corner.
UAH will be in the Section 206-208-210-212 corner.
Can you post a link to the documents? I can't find them on the ncaa website. Thanks.
Find the Regional Manual here. Refer to the section at the bottom of page 16 (page 17 of 43 in your PDF viewer, page 16 as printed on the document) called "Tickets/Seating" for the seating assignments, and page 20 for the seating chart.
Perfect. Thanks a lot.
Hey everyone, Alton has it figured right for seating areas. I just got an email from the Ticket Director for the Regional at ND. Thanks for all the input, and look forward to seeing a lot of Maize and Blue, both Saturday and Sunday.
So then where I'm sitting, Section 214, must be the Ticketmaster Section.
214 is more near the Bemedji State corner, but you should be okay...Michigan fans will be all over the arena I suspect. But the Michigan "section" will be to your right.
I live 2 minutes from the Coliseum and I have to be out of town next Saturday!!! Just my luck!
for the 8pm Sunday night start...
Watching him last night was great with Louie! Go Blue and good luck in the tourney boys!
whose all going to this? I am!
My pops bought me frozen four tickets for a Christmas gift. It looked like neither of my teams (Michigan + Minnesota) would make it, but I'm so stoked that Michigan is going! Red Berenson = best Michigan coach ever, IMO.
it's between him a Vic Heyliger. And Vic has some pretty good numbers, 6 NCs, 10 FFs, 228 wins in 13 seasons for a .776 winning percentage. Red is 2, 10, 699, 26 and .669, in the same categories. However, Vic played in a much easier world, so that has to be taken into consideration. They're both fantastic coaches and we're lucky to have them. Other than that there really isn't anybody that could even contend, a few losing record coaches, some hovering just above .500, like Al Renfrew. You might recall the name, as his wife stitched the original "Go Blue M Club Supports You" banner, I believe. I believe Al is still alive, he has a ton of honors for the advancement of college hockey, won the NC that wasn't won by Red or Vic, is also an alumnus and by everything I've heard is one of the most fantastic people you will ever meet, ever.
And we haven't made the FF yet, playing like this we definitely could, but we have to beat two really good teams still and in this tourney a single bad play/shift can send even the best team home.
Heyliger was also instrumental in helping Air Force's hockey program get off the ground after he left Michigan. One of the cooler people in the history of college hockey for sure.
helping Air Force's hockey program get off the ground.
I'm not going to the Frozen Four (if we make it) and (would go with cousin, but he is out of town that week of course) but I am going to the Regionals at Fort Wayne!
Generally, the words "university" and "cheaper" and "for the fans" do NOT go in the same sentence.
the ticket $$$ post was supposed to be in response to stork's post which is right now #34-----and it is supposed to be filled with rib-tickling laughs
Wow, what a nightmare ending for a bright season for the Bulldogs. There's no way AK-Fairbanks should be in ahead of FSU; one team should not be penalized for advancing to their league tournament, while another benefits from an early exit in the league playoff.
According to the Daily (http://michigandaily.com/content/notebook-m-team-speed-too-much-wildcats...) Summers skated Saturday at the Joe before the game and Red says that he will "probably" be back in time for Fort Wayne!
Already stifling defense + Best defenseman + little starting walk-on goalie who could and does = :-D