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Tim

Michigan's new football coaching staff met with the media today prior to the start of spring ball. Here are some excerpts of what they said. Video coming tomorrow.

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Head Coach Brady Hoke

I spent much less time with Hoke because we've had chances to hear from him before. The assistants have much more new stuff to say.

"We've talked a lot about 'this is a fresh start' and going back to square one."

The facility upgrades are a lot different than last time Hoke was here. "You look aesthetically at how everything looks, and it's beautiful. It's a sign of the times in college football."

Defensive Coordinator Greg Mattison

"We have to take who we have, and make them as good as they can be." Can the team make dramatic improvements on D? "It has to. Michigan forever - and you guys know it longer than I do - Michigan has taken great pride in defense, and will take great pride in defense again." It starts with technique, fundamentals, and stopping the run. Not allowing big plays and great red zone defense are huge.

It was tough to come to Michigan, because the Ravens are a great team, and "probably one of the best franchises in the NFL right now." In the end, he couldn't turn down working with Brady again and coming to Michigan again. He likes working with young guys and teaching the game.

On Hoke: "He's number one a great leader, he's a great person, as far as knowing what has to happen. He loves Michigan. He's always loved Michigan. He has a passion to get Michigan back to where it always was." Mattison and Hoke stayed close even though they weren't on the same staff for several years.

Cameron Gordon will play outside linebacker, because they want to get the guys into the best position they can to make plays. "And then what's the most upside." He has great ability to grow, and has that upside at OLB. "As compared to being a safety, I think he can do that too, but we have other guys that can do that."

"How dangerous? I don't know that, because we haven't hit anybody." Don't know how tough the team is until they have contact practices.

Nobody on the staff is selfish or looking out for their owns goals. "Everybody has Michigan first. It's not about any individual on that team."

Mattison hasn't watched any film on the defense from 2010. The only useful thing would be for individual ability, but he'll learn that through conditioning. "The players we have here are who we have here." Improving the defensive rankings doesn't matter. "I want this defense to be the best they can possibly be... It doesn't matter what the numbers were before. If the numbers were 50 a game and it goes down to 40, that isn't good enough." The bar at Michigan is higher than most places.

The coaches have to invest their own effort for the players to buy in. "Through their effort, they can become 'Michigan football players' again. And they're not far off."

"Very very physical, aggressive defense. A defense that, when somebody comes out on that field, they know their in a war." The other point of pride is having excellent technique.

Young kids are excited to play for a coach who's had Ray Lewis, Haloti Ngata, and Ed Reed play for him. "The good news is, you don't coach these guys any different than you coach them. It's just teaching."

Defensive Line: Jerry Montgomery

"They're going to be a reflection of me. I'm passionate about what I do, they'll feel that passion, and eventually it will rub off." The defensive linemen will play with intensity and "we're going to be the best-coached group on the field." Building a relationship with the players is one of the most important parts of coaching.

There are a lot of different defensive schemes out there, "but at the end of the day, you get to a lot of the same things." Michigan's 4-3 this season won't be worried about confusing the offense or disguising what they're going to get on a given play, unlike some of the other schemes out there. It'll be a lot of "here we are, come at us." Think along the lines of what Iowa does.

"Our goal is to stop the run first. That's priority number one."

The players who are best capable of playing "within the defense" will be the ones who play. If they're All-Americans in another scheme, but can't accept the coaching, they aren't going to play.

Coach Mattison is able to compare linemen to Haloti Ngata, Terrell Suggs, and other great NFL linemen, so they know the bar is set high, and what they're aiming to achieve. "What they're asking is 'how can I be more like him?' Well, I'm going to them them." They'll watch the Ravens film because "we're going to be running that defense. So we've got the luxury of using that film."

"I'd like to rotate a bunch. But we've gotta have the players for us to do that. I won't know until we get deep into spring ball what type of depth we have." They want to keep the linemen fresh as much as possible.

It's exciting to work under Coaches Hoke and Mattison, because they're former D-Line coaches, and it's great to learn under them.

On Mattison: "Regardless of how old he is, he's great with the players, he relates to the players, and he's a great recruiter." He's as energetic as Montgomery, despite the age difference. He has the enthusiasm of a young guy, and cam back to college because he loved recruiting so much.

Offensive Coordinator Al Borges

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The installation timeline for the offense isn't set in stone. They'll work on certain things as long as they need for the players to get it.

The important qualities for a quarterback are 1) proper management, and getting the offense into the proper plays, 2) throw accurately, and 3) "when there's breakdowns, particularly in the passing game, can you create?" The third quality separates system QBs from great ones.

There will still be some designed run plays. "He's not gonna rush for 1700 yards, I've already told him that." If he runs for 700 less and makes up for it in passing yards, that's a win. "Denard wants to be a next-level player." He's aware that this coaching staff gives him an opportunity to develop enough to play quarterback at the next level.

Borges has coached guys who can run in the past, but nobody with Denard's running skills. "He definitely has next level skills." As a quarterback? "Possibly." He's about as big as Michael Vick, and a little faster. He just needs to get the passing skills where they need to be.

Devin Gardner has a chance to play. "We have complete respect for what's been accomplished by Denard and anyone else in the lineup. But by the same token, everyone's going to have to prove to us they can play their position." They'll start with the guys that finished last year, but there's no entitlement.

The offense has a zone package, but they're not primarily a zone running team. "We're a combination of zone, gap, and insert schemes." They'll explore more options with what works well in practice. They've gone toward more gap in the past (SDSU) and also more zone (Auburn). All of it is available. The read-option isn't dead, but it's not a priority of this team.

Aaron Wellman, the team's strength coach, is as good as anybody at determining every individual player's maximum efficient weight. If guys can be most efficient a little lighter, so be it.

Running Backs: Fred Jackson

Every player in the running back position group (even Vincent Smith!) will play both running back and a bit of fullback, except John McColgan, who is strictly a fullback. They won't necessarily be doing the traditional Iso blocking, of course. Added versatility will make them all better players.

Running backs in this system have a wider range of responsibilities than the previous system. They have to be able to be pass catchers not just in the flat, but as downfield receivers as well. For the running backs, the spread wasn't that complex an offense. "For this offense, you're involved in every scheme of the protections, you're not free-released as much."

Vincent Smith is excited for the new offense, but he's a little nervous that the new offense has a reputation of favoring bigger backs. "But Vincent Smith for his size, pound for pound, I'd put him up against anybody. He's a tough, tough kid."

On Mike Cox: "He is by far better-suited for this offense. What he has to do to see the field is grasp the offense. I think I've talked about that in the past."

As high school players, Thomas Rawls is very similar to Mark Ingram: "What Mark has done right now, you can't really compare to anything," but they are very similar coming out of high school.

Justice Hayes is versatile enough to play several positions. "He can play running back, he can play receiver, he can play defensive back." For now, he's a running back, but "he can do a lot of things."

Offensive Line: Darrell Funk

It's tough to know what you have at your position group until actual spring practice starts. At offensive line, it's even tougher until you get them in pads. "I'm really excited. Even though we really enjoy recruiting and all those things that come with the job, we're here to coach football."

The biggest key for these guys is to teach them the new system, including the terms, etc. that are different from before. "There'll be some growing pains that way." That doesn't mean it's all about three yards and a cloud of dust - you have to be able to run and pass.

It's not just football that the players need to adjust to: "in the weight room, and in the training, and in the conditioning... doing things like we want to do."

They had to transition the offense from spread to pro-style at San Diego State as well, though that was more of a passing spread. "It ended up being real good in a 2-year period." The Aztecs were a 2-win program the year before this staff came in, so they might start a little further ahead at Michigan.

This group of kids at Michigan is an intelligent and attentive group. "It's mostly older kids in there. The David Molks and some kids who have played a lot of football." They're very willing to learn.

"We don't want guys to put on bad weight... just like every place, there's some guys who need to put on weight and there's a few who probably need to lose a pound or two. At the end of the day, if you can perform what we need done at, say, 290, and you want them to be 300: at the end of the day, production is key."

Comments

cjpops

March 9th, 2011 at 4:44 PM ^

Coach Hoke says this kind of stuff a lot:

"We've talked a lot about 'this is a fresh start' and going back to square one."

Better not, coach.  We already did that (see: UM Football 3 years ago).  8-4 is the baseline and you must beat MSU.

umjgheitma

March 9th, 2011 at 4:50 PM ^

but it will be nice to get these interviews after they've had interactions with the players at full speed in pads. Good to see they're all big fans of recruiting. Sounds like Cam Gordon is the guy we see make a Denard-like leap this year.  Having that safety experience will be nice in a LB but now he has to get used to being the first guy in rather than playing it safe and nothing gets past him. I wish I could get Mattison to watch some film then take some truth serum and ask what he thinks of everything that was done last year and how much better it could be this year.

michgoblue

March 9th, 2011 at 5:01 PM ^

Question to all of the "oh no, Al Borges is going to destroy our offense by bringing us back to the stone age and misusing Denard" crowd:  Are you comforted by Borges comments regarding zone packages, and the importance of a QB to create when the passing play breaks down?

 

Wallaby Court

March 9th, 2011 at 5:17 PM ^

Yes and no. Frankly, the importance of the QB creating the the pass breaks down sounds like a run pass option. We've seen before that the run/pass choice is not Denard's greatest strength. I've been more comforted watching SDSU's bowl game film and seeing the potential for inserting a dynamic runner like Denard. The zone/iso/etc distinction doesn't matter as much to me, b/c our previous offense effectively used a mix of all of those last year and it doesn't look like we're going to go full paleolith Wisconsin.

MGoShoe

March 9th, 2011 at 5:06 PM ^

...makes me giddy with excitement: 

Coach Mattison is able to compare linemen to Haloti Ngata, Terrell Suggs, and other great NFL linemen, so they know the bar is set high, and what they're aiming to achieve. "What they're asking is 'how can I be more like him?' Well, I'm going to [teach] them." They'll watch the Ravens film because "we're going to be running that defense. So we've got the luxury of using that film."

 

CoachZ

March 9th, 2011 at 7:53 PM ^

Baltimore's "Raven Package" that they use against teams like the Steelers is really just a 4-3 under.  The only difference is that Suggs stands up at the weakside defensive end.  I remember hearing Greg talk about it a few years ago at a clinic and he said they ran it a lot. 

Bodogblog

March 9th, 2011 at 8:41 PM ^

That may be true, but the results are rather meh...

2010 RB Receiving Leaders - B1G

D. Bennett, MN - 33 catches for 319 yards, 1 TD

A. Robinson, IA - 24 for 290, 1 TD

E. Royster, PSU - 25 for 202, 1 TD

M. Leshoure, IL - 17 for 196, 3 TD

B. Saine, TSIO - 23 for 195, 5 TD

M. Trumpy, NW - 20 for 182, 0 TD

B. Herron, TSIO - 19 for 180, 0 TD

D. Dierking, PUR - 20 for 173, 2 TD

L. Caper, MSU - 12 for 133, 1 TD

V. Smith, MI - 15 for 130, 2 TD

M. Ball, WI - 16 for 128, 0 TD

D. Willis, IN - 11 for 102, 1 TD

I like Smith and hope the knee is all the way back this year.  But catching out of the backfield is something none of the backs did really well this year.  RR complained of this in the Fall





 

zlionsfan

March 9th, 2011 at 9:54 PM ^

that downfield opportunities for RBs were not the strength of the previous offense, so it shouldn't be a surprise that Smith's receptions and yards don't suggest he's a great downfield receiver. (Not that you can get that from simple stats anyway: I mean, no one thinks Dierking is a better receiver, right?)

Magnus

March 10th, 2011 at 10:14 AM ^

I think all of the backs who were thrown to (basically just Smith and Shaw) did a good job of catching the ball out of the backfield.  I don't remember a single drop from the running backs, although I can obviously be proven wrong.

I'm not a fan of Smith's abilities at all, but he's certainly not a bad receiver.  In fact, I would rather have seen him at slot receiver than running back for the past couple years.

Bodogblog

March 10th, 2011 at 11:29 AM ^

And overall we didn't throw much to our RB's, which the stats bear out.  You could say that's the offense, but I think getting the backs more involved in the passing game was exactly what RR wanted to do.  Denard being a first year starter likely had something to do with this.  But in the Fall RR talked about giving Gallon, Robinson, and Grady reps at RB.  That doesn't signal confidence in the existing RBs receiving ability.

Even conceding Smith, that's only one back.  Seems like a stretch to expect downfield catches from the current group.

Magnus

March 10th, 2011 at 11:53 AM ^

I think the Gallon/Grady/T-rob at running back thing is more of a schematic thing having to do with putting flexible players on the field, motioning in and out from the slot, etc.  I don't think it signified a lack of confidence in the running backs' ability.

And one drop out of approximately 26 throws to running backs (Smith caught 15, I think Shaw caught 10 IIRC) isn't too bad at all.

Bodogblog

March 10th, 2011 at 1:07 PM ^

but conversely 15 for 130 isn't too great at all.  Just seems if this were something we did really well, we'd have done it more.  And isn't flexibility what we're talking about?  Seems easier to have Smith and Shaw flexing from RB out to slot and vice-versa.  A RB catching balls is more natural than a WR taking hand-offs.  Understand you'd want both, but the former seems easier than the latter. 

In any case, hopefully this is true.  I remember the sick catch and juke Smith put on OSU in '09, I thought we were going to get much more of it last year.  I'd love to see our guys catching more balls, both in the flat and downfield.  But I'm not going to anticipate it just yet

Everyone Murders

March 9th, 2011 at 5:19 PM ^

Doesn't Borges look strikingly like a turtle who has just discovered his shell has gone missing?

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Of course, he can look any way he wants so long as he helps us rebuild the program and finds good ways to utilize Denard.

RowoneEndzone

March 10th, 2011 at 11:58 PM ^

And I just snorted, not a nerdy snort, but a snort nonetheless a snort.  Well played, not important, but very funny.  Wait, it must have been a nerdy snort as I have never heard one to be anything but nerdy.  I shall go drink Busch Beer now.

iawolve

March 9th, 2011 at 7:09 PM ^

Worried that he may leave the program. Interesting how he used 50 as a benchmark example going to 40 not being enough progress, I think he knows as much as he needs to know about this team at this point. Now it is just seeing how tough the kids really are and seeing who takes to the coaching. I imagine there will be no players pining for GERG, they also want to be a great unit again. 

ken725

March 9th, 2011 at 7:01 PM ^

Googling has led me to this website.

http://www.gridironstrategies.com/articles.php?id=318

I don't know how to do those cool block quotes since the helpful HTML page does not exist anymore, but...

"DIAGRAM 3: Jab Vs. 50 From Base I-Formation. The Jab can be accentuated from 2-back sets by inserting a fullback to gain a lead blocker. By running the Jab from a 2-back set, we can use all five offensive linemen to account for defenders on the LOS. The fullback will be used to secure the second level defender at the point of attack."

Moe Greene

March 9th, 2011 at 5:52 PM ^

The idea that Ed Reed, Haloti Ngata and Ray-Ray have to be coached is interesting. Any jackoff can tell these guys "MAKE PLAYS! DON'T PUCKER!" but someone has to put them in positions to, well, do what they do....which is wreck shit.

Jivas

March 9th, 2011 at 6:10 PM ^

First Hoke makes numerous comments about "touching" people that make us all giggle like adolescents, now Jerry Montgomery goes and says this about his defensive linemen:

  "...they'll feel that passion, and eventually it will rub off."

This has to be an intentional prank on the part of the coaching staff to see how much internez giggling they can cause.  Well played, gents, well played.

Grahambino

March 9th, 2011 at 6:11 PM ^

to think they turned a spread at SDSU over in two years.  They had success in 2 years, and that was w/out the Mattison factor.  Here's hoping he can help us induce success in less than a year!  Go Blue.

M-Wolverine

March 9th, 2011 at 6:27 PM ^

Every word the head guy says will be on other news sources pretty fast. But no one is going to "waste" webspace or printspace on hearing what the Assistants say. That in-depth extra is what makes the news portion of a dedicated blog more valuable to the serious fan.

clarklakeblue

March 9th, 2011 at 7:14 PM ^

This coaching staff has me excited about Michigans future.It will be such a breath of fresh air to see a 4-3 scheme again. The spring game wont be here soon enough.

Bernard Ducamp

March 9th, 2011 at 7:15 PM ^

Very very physical, aggressive defense.

A defense that, when somebody comes out on that field, they know their in a war."

The other point of pride is having excellent technique.

-----------WAR!!!!!! on defense-----------