Fee Fi Foe Film: Minnesota Defense Comment Count

Seth

[Hello; still Seth. Ace is working on scouting his Hoopsdraftageddon team (and writing this year's basketball preview)]

Previously: Minnesota Offense

Chester

Zone? Sonny if you want zone I suggest you try Iowa City. In here, we play man defense. And pour whiskey.

Jerry Kill brought Minnesota back from the Big Ten frontier by giving his defense a cowboy identity, then finding some bow-legged cornerback fellers who can handle it. These guys arrived three or four years ago and were immediately sent out to wander the vast open plains of Minnesota's secondary alone. Were you to wind up over a buffalo tight end, racing a jackrabbit slot receiver, or fighting a vicious coyote for the only oblong meal in days, the nearest safety'd be a good nine miles away, if he's even patrolling at all.

Those who survived became hard men. Dangerous men. Men like ol' half-safety Eric Murray, the fastest closer in the West. Or BB Calhoun, whom they call the interceptor, though never to his face. Or Myrick the Kid, who once beat a bullet to an out route. With such men roaming the open expanse, the hardy regular folk can crowd together near the neutral zone, maintaining law and order through close proximity to the snap exchanges. If you want to take the West from these men, you have two options: jostle the good folk for a few parcels close to town, or take your chances in a gunfight with the wild men out on the prairie.

Personnel: Click makes it big.

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Like I done said, they like to sidle up on in close. That there number 4 is the strong safety. If yer a bettin' man, better'd put that money on at least one o' them safeties russlin on up in that there box on the regular.

Base Set? 4-3 over spread.

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By "spread" I mean their front is a lot like Michigan State's, with the DEs spread out to the edges; the more TEs, the further they'll spread. Except whereas MSU keeps a responsible guy on the backside and a hound on the front, these DEs are so interchangeable that they're just "left" and "right." The Gophers then crowd the linebackers inside, adding safeties to the box for every eligible receiver who's not wide. They'll have a lot of safeties in the box because they play a ton of…

[Hit the JUMP for how Minnesota made a legit D out of spare Midwesterners]

Man or zone coverage? In Minnesota, they pour whiskey, and play man defense.

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The majority of snaps saw one guy high and it was common to have no safety help at all. They'll regularly pack the box and trust their defensive backs to cover anybody not in it. But it's not exactly man all day; this is a Cover 3 Fire blitz:

All the DBs are playing cover 3 and the LB covers a zone to the passing strength; the other middle zone is unoccupied. Pressure gets through, ball goes to the outlet, and the seam-flat player (Johnson) breaks it up. Of course cover 3 and cover 1 (man with one high safety) are as like as Cov 2 and Man 2, that is, hard to tell apart unless you see something obvious like a corner letting a guy go and pointing. That did happen a few times, usually as part of a blitz.


Pressure: GERG or Greg?
I never saw them rush fewer than four or more than five. However they did do a lot of man-zero where they'd bring seven then two or three would back out like so:

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Yellow is zone, black is rush, red is man coverage

Northwestern handled this in stride and converted a few third downs vs. cornerbacks left out there in a lot of space and time. Here's that play I screencapped a minute ago to show man:


Dangermen:
Well he just got beat there but it's still Eric Murray and friends in the secondary. This is the same guy who quartered the yardage of a quorum of NFL-bound receivers as a sophomore. In this game he wasn't invincible; there's the above, and he was earlier beat on a similar 3rd down when he lost the out in a flood route. So life goes when the sideline is your only help defender.

Murray made up for that by flashing Peppers-like ability as the hybrid nickel. We'll get to this later but the aggressive DEs created a lot of running space that Murray closed down adroitly. He killed this triple option by setting up so quick the WR barely waved a hand to block him, then closed like a boss.

I know, Peppers would jump around that guy, not set up where he can't be blocked. Excellent senior or hyperathletic freshman it amounts to the same thing. Murray also caused a fumble by getting to Justin Jackson way before he was expected (the lone Wildcat among five Gophers recovered it because football gods use fumbles to taunt us).

They didn't have their other NFL-bound man-to-man star Brien Boddy-Calhoun, who's making his return this week, but Jalen Myrick, normally a true nickel, had almost zero dropoff and two Lewis-ian PBUs on the two targets in his direction. He's a pure cover guy, but if you're questioning whether the third guy on this depth chart really needs a star, Pro Football Focus currently grades him 2nd overall in the country:

Jalen Myrick, Minnesota +14.4

Myrick repeats as the No. 2 corner on the team, as his +12.1 coverage grade comes in right behind Lewis. He’s allowed 17 catches on 35 targets for 183 yards, while intercepting three and defending four others.

Zero guesses who the Lewis is they're referring to. Myrick was actually ahead of Jourdan before the Burbridge matchup, FWIW; I think that's a volume thing.

The last star is the punter with the old fashioned American Leg. Ray Guy candidate Peter Mortell gets his face on buses and played a bit role in the birth of the $5 Bits of Broken Chair Trophy. Then there was the time he tried to be Blake O'Neill. Sorry Peter, no 80 yard punts that land at the 1 for you. You'll have to settle for 77 yards.


OVERVIEW

Minnesota's defense is more than the sum of its parts, but other than the secondary it has iffy parts, and does some unsound things to put them in a position to succeed. That starts with rushing their DEs upfield. Northwestern found a couple of ways to exploit that:

That should have been a 5 yard gain, and turned into the big play that sealed the blowout because the backup LB got out of his lane. This one was pure RPS:

Myrick got stiff-armed for big YAC but that's what happens when Vitale is isolated on a corner.

I admit I watched a lot of SDE Thieren Cockran since he's known to this site for things like Brian's bad draft pick, and the late hit that Dave Brandon and co. turned into an international incident. Cockran was a mixed bag. The now-5th year senior was a handful for a not very good Northwestern RT, but Cockran's out-of-control style contrasted sharply with what I saw of Northwestern's highly responsible Lowry.

Here's a one-sequence summary:

  • 2nd & 10 unblocked man on a zone read; crashes to force the keep, explodes upfield to threaten the QB but arrives out of control, is casually stiff-armed.
  • 3rd and 5 Shoots 10 yards upfield, opening up a massive lane for a first down run or at least to step into the pocket. QB doesn't see it, ankle sack.
  • 4th and 7 Another speed rush, RT just gets run by, Thorson gets the ball away (complete) just as Cockran's about to sack; he gives a shot anyway but escapes a late hit flag.
  • 1st and 10 Gets stood up by a tight end; Cockran and the ball both end up 8 yards downfield. Yaps at a ref, then at a guy who's not looking at him.

Accounting for somewhat wiser NFL scouts, the Will Gholston reincarnate label is exact.

I liked one linebacker, and not either of the returning starters. The MLB, #12 Cody Poock, was able to stop Justin Jackson's momentum on contact, and had a few nice little "Whoop!" dodges of would-be blockers. Tellingly, the defense kept the Gophers in this game despite the Hokeian offensive performance, until Poock was sidelined in the middle of the 3rd quarter and his replacement turned a 5-yard RPS+1 play into game over. The other two LBs are just guys; the WLB is thick and smart but slowish, and the other is quick and rote, but too small to fight blockers. Poock is just right.

Of the safeties, Minnesota keeps Ayinde over the strongside and Johnson free, but either could be deep guy. Ayinde is below average; Johnson is a senior with about two years of starting experience spread out over four seasons, and he just missed getting a star. The DTs are just there to get in the way (and get grabby when an OL is about to release to the next level). The purpose of the line in this defense is keep those LBs and safeties clean, and let them do their work:

All told this is a pretty good defense, as borne out by the stats: they're 19th in FEI, sandwiched by Penn State and Iowa. The Gophers do it by having very good defensive backs who can play without help, and rechanneling the erstwhile help to packing as many in the box as the offense.

This should be a good test for Harbaugh's uncanny ability to run into those stacked fronts. Michigan State bottled the run game up pretty well with similar tactics (and way better interior DL). Michigan can't pass its way out of this one, and Mortell won't give many short fields unless Peppers gets some back. Giddyup.

Comments

dragonchild

October 30th, 2015 at 11:15 AM ^

Plays to our strengths, no.  Both defenses have similar makeups but Minny has better corners and Rudock had his best game against Northwestern.  That we beat Northwestern is bad news for Minny (they're what Minny wants to be), but we can't expect things to go that well twice.

Minnesota's defense is worse overall, but they're stronger where we're weaker (vs. the pass).  That sounds like good news at first, but the downside is that makes our offense one-dimensional.  Their CBs are used to having no help and more sound against the run than NU's "cover" corners, which allows them to stack the box with a meh front 7.  The way to beat this defense is to punch it in the mouth, but we don't have an O-line that can do it consistently.  Meaning we'll struggle if put on long fields, but unfortunately they have a good punter as well.

It's not a bad matchup overall.  Our offense will move in fits and starts but will probably get close enough through RPS plays to hit a few field goals.  Minnesota's IZ offense will have their souls eaten by our D-line, so what little we get should be enough.

Of course, if we turn the ball over, things could get ugly fast.

funkywolve

October 30th, 2015 at 12:36 PM ^

doesn't turn the ball over (or at least have too many), I'm not that worried.  I think the defense shuts down Minny's offense, and as someone else pointed out, I think Harbaugh and staff will have some plays to exploit Minny's defense.  I don't expect a cakewalk but I'd like to think UM has a comfortable lead (double digits if not 2 TD's) by the time the 4th quarter rolls around.

dragonchild

October 30th, 2015 at 10:26 AM ^

Minnesota scoring points - uh, no (see offense FFFF)
Special teams - push
O-line winning blocks - not consistently
Rudock saves the day - unlikely

Like we did against Northwestern, we're gonna have to RPS for points.  The helmets might be flat-topped by the end of this game.

dragonchild

October 30th, 2015 at 5:08 PM ^

I'd say we're better, but the difference won't be relevant.  They're not quite so bad that we're likely to get a ST TD.  We need to get close enough to kick FGs, so we'll want field position, but Minnesota's STs aren't going to give that up easily.  Minnesota's offense plays to our D's strength so extremely that I don't see them getting to FG range.  So, I don't expect ST to be much of a factor either way.  So, even though we're better, "push".

Of course, if there's any facet of the game that can make a prediction look silly, it's special teams.

Farnn

October 30th, 2015 at 10:27 AM ^

After the Northwestern and MSU games, I feel Michigan is better suited to take advantage of a defense whose DBs are the strong point even if they load the box with the rest of the defense.  We know Rudock can't take advantage of even a weak secondary so just repeat the NW gameplan.

dragonchild

October 30th, 2015 at 11:23 AM ^

We ran on Northwestern and that opened up the pass.  Not downfield throws mind you, but with Northwestern amped to stop the run, Rudock completed 10 of his 17 passes to TEs or RBs, no home runs but a lot of first downs.

Against Minny, we'll have some success running up the gut, but I don't see the pass opening up.  So we'll just have to run run run, and I don't see us sustaining drives that way.  On the upside, we shut out Northwestern and Minnesota's offense is a poor man's Northwestern.

LJ

October 30th, 2015 at 10:39 AM ^

What the hell is the playside WR doing on this play?  How on earth is that supposed to work if they have no plan for blocking the corner?  The safety bugs out to cover a deep middle on the snap, and the WR chooses to try to go block that guy?

 

Seth

October 30th, 2015 at 10:43 AM ^

He is totally supposed to block Murray. But one thing that was consistent from both teams is their blockers are coached not to fight losing battles. I think Murray beat him by leaping outside as soon as he read the speed option. At that point the receiver had no angle and had to leave Murray for the ballcarrier. They're further apart than it looks from the pressbox angle we have; it's still an awful block by the WR and the announcers chewed him out for it.

LJ

October 30th, 2015 at 10:50 AM ^

Huh.  Seems like a weird design to me.  Murray is the force defender on that play; I can't beleive NU would think he'd allow himself to be sealed inside so easily.  If the WR lets Murray have the sideline and at least holds his ground on the block, the tailback probably picks up at least 5, maybe more if the pursuing LBs can't make a tough tackle in space.

Space Coyote

October 30th, 2015 at 12:01 PM ^

It's the design of the play.

The DE is the first read for the QB, but that's how he reads keep or give on the zone read.

Then the option pitch reads the second defender to the outside. This is where things break down for Northwestern. The WR sees the CB play flat-footed and hop outside, this is cloud leverage (he isn't in man), so he lets him go. He's anticipating that he is the QB's second read.

The bigger issue is that no one really gets out onto the WILL. The playside OT and OG just stick to their first level double, and that let's the WILL run free. IMO, the playside OT messes this play up because he reads the NT slanting toward him, but in reality he should only flipper the DT and move straight to the WILL. The NT isn't going to make a play on the ball either way slanting into the playside B-gap, he is taking himself out of the play on the give and can't make up ground vs the OG on the outside option.

If the WILL is even harassed, the QB only has to deal with the CB playing cloud leverage, the deep safety is blocked (meaning the defense can't insert a defender with an angle on the ball from deep) and it's a huge gain. Once the CB shows he's leverage, the WR is only trying to delay him until he moves onto the safety, because he doesn't want to block the guy that is supposed to be the QB's read.

But watch the play again and assume the OT gets out to the LB, and the now see the huge gap in the alley where the QB only has to read a CB and the WR is blocking the safety, thus leaving it CB vs QB and RB for a TD. I mean, maybe the backside safety can track down the QB, but this is 10+ yards if the WILL is even bothered (remember, that safety would then have to fight through that wash to get to the football, so his ability to track down the runner would also be delayed).

What this is is the OL and WR reading who the 2nd read is differently, and that blows up the play.

alum96

October 30th, 2015 at 10:50 AM ^

p.s. how do you embed a little piece of youtube video?

When I go to the share button it lets me "start" video at a certain spot but that is only for share; when I go to embed it takes the whole video code.  Is there a trick to give a start and end point for the embed function?

Seth

October 30th, 2015 at 11:11 AM ^

You have to alter the html code and use the old style of it. Say, for example, you want to skip Adam Sandler and want to get right to After School Special's song, you take the FULL LINK of the Youtube address of the video. I use an auto encoding tool someone put online:

https://www.tools4noobs.com/online_tools/youtube_xhtml/

THEN you have to add "&start=[seconds into the video you want it to start]" in both places it has the link.

So for the Ace video we generate some code. Unfortunately it turns "&" into the code for ampersand. I get rid of excess code and add "&start=7" to wind up with the following:

And the video looks like this:

 

alum96

October 30th, 2015 at 1:35 PM ^

Ok when I took the full link of that video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=814jRkw2jbQ

and pasted it into the generator I got this

<object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" style="width:450px; height:366px;" data="//www.youtube.com/v/814jRkw2jbQ?color2=FBE9EC&amp;version=3">
        <param name="movie" value="//www.youtube.com/v/814jRkw2jbQ?color2=FBE9EC&amp;version=3" />
        <param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" />
        <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" />
        </object><div style="font-size: 0.8em"><a href="https://www.tools4noobs.com/online_tools/youtube_xhtml/">Get your own valid XHTML YouTube embed code</a></div>

Looks like you stripped "?color2=FBE9EC&amp;version=3"" whatever that is for and replace it with the start code. 

Then you strip the ahref thing at the end

So I see you added a start code at "7" but where is the end code?

For example you are able to embed 9 second videos above so if I start at 7 I end at 16 I assume.  This is helpful info so would like to learn - I seem to be doing something wrong.

 

dcblue92

October 30th, 2015 at 11:56 AM ^

I expect to see very few passes to the WRs, save for a few deep shots against 1:1 coverage, and a lot of play action to TEs and RBs.  Test their LBs and safeties in coverage and, hopefully, loosen up the run D.

Bertello NC

October 30th, 2015 at 11:58 AM ^

Way off topic but.. Damn were going to have so much competition and viable and great options at the QB position next year it won't even be funny. OKorn, Speight, Gentry, Peters. Does anyone think Peters could start? Henne did it. My gut and popular belief says it'll be O'korn.

alum96

October 30th, 2015 at 1:23 PM ^

I dont want a true freshman starting.  Even a phenom like rosen struggles some games and if you want a playoff next year your QB cant be struggling.  With the type of D we should return next year you want a veteran.  But one who could - you know - complete passes over 12 yds.

I think the 2 obvious older guys will also be at other schools so its actually still going to be a very young group of QBs with only O'Korn over rs so level.

RainbowSprings

October 30th, 2015 at 12:52 PM ^

Being a natural skeptic, I see the QB chase next year being O'Korn clearly on top with everyone else (including Morris) scrambling to be backup. O'Korn is the only one with good (sorry Shane) game experience. The rest are wannabes at this point. I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised, of course.

socalwolverine1

October 30th, 2015 at 12:55 PM ^

Makes sense that if their corners are so good and they stack the box like Sparty, then our very capable TE's will be hauling in many 10-15 yard receptions over the middle or in the flat if we are to be successful.  That's where we have a clear advantage, our big/tall/athletic TE's against their LBs/safeties.  Rudock needs to be sharp.  

ND Sux

October 30th, 2015 at 10:10 PM ^

The game in which Rudock hits Chesson on the fly. Why? Because Brian's brilliant reverse psychology will pay off...and because it was bound to hit sooner or later. I say tomorrow for a 60+ TD.