Fee Fi Foe Film: Michigan State Offense Comment Count

Ace


The audio was screwed up in my copy of the video, so here's this.

In the last couple days, I've gone over film of MSU's offense against Maryland and BYU, and boy, it's been a fun week. I ended up doing full charting of the BYU game, which featured an oddly timed and ill-fated quarterback switch from Tyler O'Connor to Damion Terry, and Hennecharted the Maryland game, which featured a third quarterback, Brian Lewerke.

Yes, State has a quarterback problem. That is far from the only problem.

Personnel. Seth's diagram [click to embiggen]:

The starting QB is a guess. It wouldn't be surprising to see O'Connor either start over Lewerke or replace him partway through. We didn't want to use a precious bench spot on a QB because MSU frequently deploys RB Gerald Holmes, TE Jamal Lyles, and FB Prescott Line, and they still rotate a fair amount on the O-line. A knee injury to guard David Beedle, who has the OL's fourth-most snaps despite not starting the last three games (and missing Maryland), has opened up playing time for true freshman Thiyo Lukusa, who got quite a bit of run against Maryland.

Spread, Pro-Style, or Hybrid? Pro-style, for whatever that means anymore. State tends to go I-form and run-heavy on early downs, then go into the gun for passing downs.

Basketball on Grass or MANBALL? A mix. They run a fair amount of inside zone, and also feature quite a bit of power.

Hurry it up or grind it out? Grind. MSU is 106th in adjusted pace.

[Hit THE JUMP for the rest of the breakdown.]

Quarterback Dilithium Level (Scale: 1 [Navarre] to 10 [Denard]): That all depends on the quarterback, of course. Terry, the worst pure passer, is the most dangerous runner, even though the numbers don't reflect it. Lewerke showed some decent wheels against Maryland; he's capable enough to run the occasional read or speed option, though breaking free requires at least one defender to overplay the running back. O'Connor is the least likely to be used in the run game; he does have enough speed to break contain and pick up some yardage, but he's not a threat in the open field.

Terry gets an 8, Lewerke a 6, O'Connor a 5.

Dangerman: According to PFF, MSU's highest-graded skill player by some distance is WR/SLOT RJ Shelton, who's both the offense's most reliable chain-mover and their best big-play threat. He's got the speed to take the top off the defense:

Shelton is also quick in tight spaces; MSU has given him six rushes—all jet sweeps, as best I can tell—for 68 yards, and he's their primary target in the wideout screen game.

While neither is grading out well on PFF, I'm a fan of both LJ Scott and Gerald Holmes, MSU's one-two punch at running back. Scott had scuffled for much of the year before a breakout game against Maryland with 128 yards on 20 carries; the highlight was him pressing the hole, then popping outside on a power and showing breakaway speed when the safety took a horrid angle:

His blitz pickups are a significant issue—he's grading out at -8.0(!) in pass protection—but as a runner, he's got an NFL back's combination of size, speed, agility, and power.

Holmes isn't quite as big or explosive, but he's more reliable picking up blitzes (albeit still negative as a pass blocker per PFF), and he's got surprising agility for a 222-pound power back. His main asset is that power:

That said, he'll also make players miss. MSU's backs are both adept at making the first tackler miss, either via juke or truck, and that's a necessary skill behind this O-line.

Zook Factor: There wasn't anything glaringly bad in the punt category, but Mark Dantonio's handling of the quarterback situation is worth mentioning here. O'Connor hasn't been good by any stretch, but he was far from the primary issue with the offense against BYU, and yet Dantonio pulled him for Terry—who almost immediately threw a pick—in a ten-point game. As you'll see in the next section, O'Connor had been grading out well, and the previous couple drives had ended because of poor blocking more than anything else. It felt like a panic move, and it played out that way.

HenneChart: lol, I need to add two rows.

Opponent DO CA MA IN BR TA BA PR SCR DSR
O'Connor (BYU) 1 6 (2) 1 -- -- 2 -- 2 -- 78%
Terry (BYU) -- 3 (3) 1 1 1* 1 -- -- 1 57%
Lewerke (MD) 2 7* (2) 2 7* (1) 2 2 -- 3 2 46%

This is going to require a lot of explanation. O'Connor's grade looks good for the BYU game, but by that point the coaches were calling plays with the clear intention of making reads as easy as possible. With both O'Connor and Lewerke, MSU has called a lot of waggles that get them away from pressure (in theory, anyway), cuts the field in half, and lets them make one or two simple reads—if nobody's open, they can take off for a few yards or easily chuck the ball away to the sideline.

So, O'Connor was efficient against BYU, but he wasn't productive; he went 7-for-11 for 58 yards and took two sacks. Factor in the lost yardage on sacks and O'Connor averaged 3.5 yards per dropback. MSU has to play it safe with him. He's 8-for-30 on throws that travel more than 20 yards in the air. O'Connor is decent when he has simple, short throws to make—he's pretty accurate out to about 20 yards—but he still locks onto receivers and it gets hairy when he has to go downfield.

Lewerke is a different player. He's got a decent arm and can throw pretty well on the move, so he also gets a lot of waggle playcalls. He flat-out misses more throws than O'Connor, though. His pick against Maryland was a badly underthrown deep ball to Donnie Corley, who had a step on the defensive back:

He also missed a bunch of shorter throws, including a screen that had all the makings of a long touchdown:

Without much pressure on him, Lewerke put that ball in the turf. He had a second potential interception dropped by a Maryland defensive back who looked like he was fielding a punt. Lewerke finished 11-for-24 for 156 yards (6.5 YPA) against a Terrapins secondary that was already missing CB Will Likely and lost starting safety Darnell Savage on the first possession.

Terry has faded from the competition; he doesn't look viable as anything but a change-of-pace running QB.

If I had to pick an MSU QB to win a game this week, it'd be O'Connor, who at least can unleash the occasional bomb—five of his eight completions on throws of 20+ yards have gone for TDs. I can understand sticking with Lewerke to build for the future, but there are going to be some bumps along the way.

OVERVIEW

MSU went pass-heavy late against BYU, so the numbers are a little skewed:

Formations Run Pass PA
Gun 12 18 2
I-Form 9 -- 3
Ace 3 1 --
Pistol -- -- --
Heavy 2 -- --

They were pretty balanced out of the gun until going into comeback mode. Meanwhile, anything that wasn't from the gun tipped run, and play-actions were all of the waggle variety. Expect Don Brown to dial up a lot of blitzes that bring heat from the backside, especially since M should comfortably win this OL/DL battle—they can afford to spend a player discouraging play-action and let the rest deal with the run.

The down distribution was relatively balanced in the BYU game. It skewed far more run-run-pass(-punt) with Lewerke against Maryland.

Down Run Pass PA
1st 9 7 3
2nd 11 4 1
3rd 6 8 1

I'm having a hard time finding a way that State can consistently move the ball against Michigan. It starts up front: G/C Brian Allen is decent, and the rest of the line ranges from mediocre to bad. G David Beedle got pancaked for a sack and blown back twice in the run game to ruin otherwise well-blocked powers on third-and-short situations against Maryland. He's graded out at -14.6 on 336 snaps this year, and his injury would be a blessing in disguise if not for the fact that Thiyo Lukusa (-4.1 on 91 snaps) grades out slightly worse on a per-snap basis.

G Tyler Higby looked like he could be pushed around; he took an obvious hold against BYU after getting blown two yards back at the point of attack on an outside run. RT-turned-C-turned-LT Kodi Kieler is grading out at -9.9 on the year with most of the negative coming in pass protection; he's a step slow on the edge, and to me he doesn't look entirely healthy. RT Miguel Machado held his own; C Benny McGowan had a tough time getting push in the run. It's hard to see this group faring well against M's front seven.

That leaves the backs having to fend for themselves often. I thought Holmes made the most of what he had against BYU; that was good for 57 yards on 15 carries. Holmes and Scott are both dangerous runners, but it's hard to get a lot going when your own blockers are getting thrown into the backfield:


one of the aforementioned Beedle-ruining-a-third-and-short-power plays

While their interior pass-blocking looks decent (at least when Beedle's out), they give up a fair amount of pressure off the edge, and my (rather safe) bet is M's DTs will put more heat on the quarterback than BYU's or Maryland's.

The receiving corps drops off considerably after Shelton, Corley, and tight end Josiah Price. Shelton's been covered. Corley adds another deep threat and a bigger body to throw to underneath, but he's only catching 50% of his targets. That's in part because he looks like a true freshman out there; here he's responsible for a comical illegal shift penalty, then just wanders up the seam because he clearly has no idea what he's supposed to do:

No, you didn't forget the rules: having two players in motion at the snap is illegal. Corley had another freshman moment when he stepped out while running a deep fly—he nearly came up with the catch on a pretty great throw from O'Connor, but took himself too far to the sideline. He's got a ton of physical ability; the mental side is still coming along. The other outside receiver, Monty Madaris, dropped a couple catchable throws against BYU, and he has a hard time shaking loose from good coverage—his success rate on targets is only 41% this year, and I don't see him getting free against M's corners.

Josiah Price has been a reliable, probably underutilized receiver this year—he had two catches against BYU and none against Maryland. He's a decent, not great, blocker, and he catches most everything thrown his way, which is mostly intermediate chain-moving stuff. Jamal Lyles is more of a big-play threat as the second TE, but he's frustratingly inconsistent, especially as a blocker—he'd be a star if he could be trusted out there in the run game, but that's not the case.

In sum, MSU is going to have a very difficult time opening holes in the run game, protecting the quarterback, and consistently moving the ball through the air. I think their best hope in this game is to try a bunch of bombs to Shelton and Corley, which is far from a sustainable offense, especially against this Michigan secondary. They'll get a big play or three out of Shelton/Corley/Scott/Holmes, but putting up more than a handful of points is going to be a tall task.

Comments

Cali's Goin' Blue

October 26th, 2016 at 6:09 PM ^

Can D. Thomas get one? I understand there isn't a lot of hype around him because everything gets swallowed up before him(Or the QBisso scared he throws it OB), but if he were playing on any other D in the country, he would get a star IMO. Hell, even throw a 5th DL in there and give Mo Hurst a star. That's how good this D is

DonAZ

October 26th, 2016 at 5:34 PM ^

I am looking forward to this game in a way I haven't for several years now.

I soooo want Michigan's defense to absolutely stomp them.  I want the domination to be complete ... I want no room whatsoever to argue that the Michigan victory was for any reason other than Michigan is simply a far, far better team than MSU.

carolina blue

October 26th, 2016 at 5:35 PM ^

Remember that last part, folks. Don't get upset when a couple of bombs get completed. It may make MSU feel good and talk a little shit, but it's not sustainable and this team will not be discouraged by a couple of long completions. See: Colorado.



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GGV

October 27th, 2016 at 12:11 AM ^

Bimbo's was started in northern Minnesota by "Bimbo" Chutich.

If I understand the story correctly, he married a woman from Ann Arbor and moved down there and opened some pizza parlors while having other family members run / manage the one's back in MN.  He eventually moved down to Atlanta with his family from Ann Arbor I guess.  I spoke with his grandson who told me they tried using the name "Bimbo's" down there, but you know Hotlanta...everyone thought it was a strip club...so they changed the name to Delkwood Grill...but notice they still serve Bimbo's Pizza on the menu.

I had a full Bimbo's pizza up in northern Minnesota while camping the past few summers and I can assure you it is exactly the same recipe that they used On The Hill  and Downtown.  They even make their own sausage for the pizza from the same recipe.  It blew my mind,  They even have the same song sheets!

There's also one owned by another family member in Kazoo.

 

So the one in Atlanta is more or less the transplanted Bimbo's Downtown or On The Hill.  I understand they still have Michigan football memorabilia on the walls.  

Bimbo's Octagon is an offshoot of the original Minnesota Bimbo's

Blueto

October 27th, 2016 at 12:40 AM ^

One of my all time favorite unique Ann Arbor places. Great memories of Bimbo's  downtown; great pizza and the old timer band. So much fun getting shit faced and gorging on the pizza during football season with a group of friends.

I miss it.

GGV

October 27th, 2016 at 9:28 AM ^

Let me tell you, my mind was blown when I walked into the Bimbo's Octagon which sits on a lake next to a state park about 20 miles north of HIbbing Minnesota!  

I had been out on the fishing dock earlier that day when a woman told me I should go ieat at this place across the lake called Bimbo's.  I jokingly asked her if they had pizza (ha ha ha) and she said they had GREAT pizza...so I went.  

The first thing I saw was the square cut pizza.  Then I looked up and saw the stained glass BIMBOS's along with the photos of the silent movie stars (WC Fields, etc...) up on the walls which I seem to remember from Down Town.  Felt like I had crossed over into the Twilight Zone.

I was wearing my M hat and went over to the bar to ask the bartender what the connection was with Ann Arbor.  He gave me a "Go Blue!".  The guy was college age and was the grandson of Bimbo, the man who owned the Ann Arbor  & Ypsi restaurants.  I think he said he went to Ol’ MIss but was a huge Michigan fan (his grandfather and mother taught him well).  

 

I told him that Ann Arbor still remembers Bimbo’s very fondly and he could have a real opportunity as a young man to open and manage Bimbos Downtown once again...

 
 

In the shorter term, we need to find a way to get into the Peach Bowl this year!

Yard Dog

October 26th, 2016 at 5:37 PM ^

The play has been so bad up front.  Machado keeps getting yanked, Keiler was moved inside initially because he's so slow, and the younger guys (Higby, Lukusa and Beedle) just aren't ready.  Allen is it up front for them.  I expect Don Brown to absolutely make their collective lives miserable on Saturday.  Hard to see MSU scoring more than 10 points, and that may be generous.

Ace

October 26th, 2016 at 5:47 PM ^

But more good than bad so far this year. Grades out as their second-best OL on PFF (+5.9). I thought McGowan was more of a problem than Machado against BYU:

Neither came off as particularly good, though. There just wasn't enough that I saw from the BYU game to go that far against the PFF grade.

Night_King

October 26th, 2016 at 5:46 PM ^

This one's going to get ugly real quick. Can't complete too many deep bombs when the QB has no time to throw. I expect Don Brown to dial it up all game long. He's not going to give Lewerke or TOC time to try and hit RJ Shelton deep. We just need to contain any slant routes/WR screens that give Shelton the ability to get significant YAC. 

kzoomgr

October 26th, 2016 at 5:49 PM ^

I cannot bring myself to fully expect an outcome that aligns with the respective records of these two teams.  As much as I wish with a white hot passion that M smokes MSU to oblivion for all the crap that's happened over the Dantonio adminstration, and on paper you'd expect us to do that, I can't move off the idea that MSU is going to play well above their station on Saturday, and this game is going to be a nail biter.  

Hoping this jedi mind trick makes me all the more pleased when we do in fact smoke them.  

stephenrjking

October 26th, 2016 at 6:10 PM ^

Some of this (I feel this way too) might just be history. If MSU were exactly the same team wearing Minnesota uniforms, I wouldn't be worried at all.

But there might be something to this. Not that MSU has hidden talent or that superstitious insanity can happen, but this *will* be the biggest game of their season. And there is a very practical effect of that--the staff will open the vault to run trick plays. Nothing will get left behind. And the team might gamble on a big play to set the tone early.

And that could, maybe, if Michigan's offense bogs down a bit (this is on the road, after all) allow MSU to stay close. At least for a while. All they need is a trick/big play, a key turnover or something, and some bad Michigan offense, and we could be looking at 14-14 or 14-10 at half.

It's not inconceivable.

Hopefully Michigan stomps on them early. If they get down by two or three TDs I believe their will breaks. But keep them close, let them believe...

Pepto Bismol

October 26th, 2016 at 8:05 PM ^

But this is no more their biggest game of the season than the BYU game was, or Indiana, or (I'm not looking at their schedule) whatever game caused their 2nd B1G loss and essentially knocked them out of conference contention. That was the win they NEEDED. It's not like they willingly let their season spiral down the drain so they could keep all the "good plays" locked up for Michigan. Any emergency adjustments have been used and haven't worked.