Fall Camp Storylines: Defense And Special Teams Comment Count

Brian

Previously: offense.

It's submarine time. Yea, the beat writers will rend their garments and republish articles about Clayton Richard from ten years ago. Insider rumblings of wildly varying utility will leak out in drips and drabs. Half of them will be outright falsehoods. A quarter will be somewhat true. A quarter will be very true.

As per usual, I enter this month of the season frantically assembling data for the season preview; fall camp chatter will factor in as it always does. Here are the things I'm hoping to hear, the things that I'm hoping are never said again, and ridiculous things I'll dismiss out of hand.

DEFENSIVE END

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if Charlton had a Happy Days spinoff it would be called Taco Loves Tacos [Eric Upchurch]

STATUS: Our tentative expectation is that the starting spots are manned by Taco Charlton and Rashan Gary. If Gary isn't ready to go you may see Wormley bounce out—I mean, you will see Wormley bounce out no matter what. But Michigan could start Hurst if Gary isn't quite ready to fight a bear. Probably not though.

THING YOU WANT TO HEAR: Lawrence Marshall and Chase Winovich are going to get their fair share of time. That's right: I'm taking the starters for granted. One is Rashan Gary. The other is a near top-100 player as of last year per PFF and my own dang charting. For both this year and next it'll be real nice if the next generation is able to make their voices heard over that noise.

THING YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR: "I'm taking my talents to Clemson." Yes I know this is a literal impossibility now. I'm still keeping the ol' eye peeled.

ACTUAL THING YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR: Shelton Johnson's team picture absence ends up being about a thing that terminates his career.

THING I WILL DISMISS OUT OF HAND:  Any assertion Charlton will play SDE, as he did this spring. Even if Chase Winovich is a revelation there's still no depth at WDE without Charlton. Also he dropped a bunch of weight. He's your WDE.

DEFENSIVE TACKLE

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[Upchurch]

STATUS: Glasgow is back. Mone is back. Hurst is back. They're moving Wormley inside because they can. Michigan has a two deep of NFL players if Mone lives up to a quarter of the hype.

THING YOU WANT TO HEAR: Maurice Hurst has leveled up his run defense. We've already heard all the things you can hear about Bryan Mone and I both know and expect the final boss version of Ryan Glasgow this fall. Chris Wormley is pretty much Chris Wormley, too. That leaves Hurst as the remaining wildcard amongst persons with a chance to play a bunch. Last year he was great when not met with mashing doubles or over-penetrating on stretch plays. If he can fix those two items dude will live up to the first-round expectations PFF put on him.

THING YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR: Both nose tackles are injured and they moved the OSU game to week one. A little sick of being down multiple DTs for the OSU game you guys. The injury thing is going to get a little repetitive in this post because Michigan has a lot of established guys. There's going to be little coming out of spring practices we don't already know or, in Bryan Mone's case, haven't heard before.

THING I WILL DISMISS OUT OF HAND: Mone will start over Glasgow. Going to hear it. Have been hearing it.

Listen to me now and believe me later: Ryan Glasgow is a goddamn robot Viking. Mone's probably real real good and is going to play this fall; Glasgow is proven beyond doubt. Except radio callers. And certain internet people.

LINEBACKER

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[Bryan Fuller]

STATUS: The two ILB starters graduate and this is an area of concern... for a given definition of concern. The likely starters are fourth-year players who were highly touted recruits. While that's not a guarantee they'll be good, this is not like previous episodes of Michigan roster concern like "James Rogers is a starting cornerback" or "converted fullback and walk-on Mark Moundros might start at linebacker."

THING YOU WANT TO HEAR: "Gotdang, Mike McCray can play." A continued resurgence from McCray is the most likely way the linebacker corps is pretty all right this year. Furbush is playing outside, likely in preparation for the Iowas and MSUs and Wisconsins of the world. Devin Bush Jr is a freshman. Nobody is talking about Jared Wangler. It's gotta be McCray.

THING YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR: Any sort of injury rumor. Linebacker is another one of the spots on the team where there's a big drop from the projected starters to the backups.

THING I WILL DISMISS OUT OF HAND: Ben Gedeon hype. I am dreading this. Gedeon didn't beat out Joe Bolden, so I am worried he literally is Joe Bolden. Therefore people saying good things about Gedeon == annual overhyped Bolden offseason. (This is potentially irrational.) I'm not saying that Gedeon can't be good. I'm saying that I'll take all praise about him with a grain of salt because he's gotta play by default and he wasn't able to break through previously.

CORNERBACK

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[Fuller]

STATUS: Jourdan Lewis returns, not worth discussing, All-American. The other side is a fierce battle between seniors Jeremy Clark and Channing Stribling.

THING YOU WANT TO HEAR: Channing Stribling is in this dimension to stay. Stribling moved ahead in his position battle this spring and like quarterback the best thing to hear is that someone is grabbing the job with authority. Since I think Jeremy Clark is pretty good I won't be upset if it's a real battle; unless Michigan gets really lucky they're not going to have three elite corners.

THING YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR: Anything about Brandon Watson playing corner or nickel or whatever. He spotted Peppers a bit last year; this year he won't be able to do that. Given the roster his best shot is at safety, where he should be moved posthaste.

THING I WILL DISMISS OUT OF HAND: I'm still tempted to scoff at Stribling's emergence as the second corner but Michigan seems very serious about that. He might start. What I don't believe is that there won't be a role for the third corner. They're close enough and good enough that both will play.

SAFETY

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[Patrick Barron]

STATUS: Two seniors with a fair amount of playing time and then a very scary drop to not many underclassmen.

THING YOU WANT TO HEAR: Dymonte Thomas is Jarrod Wilson but fast. Wilson was a safety blanket for years; one of the few things that could disrupt what looks like a killer defense is a sudden vulnerability to big plays. If anyone can protect their quarterback long enough to test the safeties.

THING YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR: The seniors are way way ahead of any pursuit. This was the case in spring despite the presence of Tyree Kinnel, a highly-regarded recruit who seems to fit the way Brown wants to play his safeties. Now Hudson and Metellus join the fray. Ideally someone comes through as a third option and penciled-in starter next year.

THING I WILL DISMISS OUT OF HAND: Khaleke Hudson didn't kill a guy. 

SPECIAL TEAMS

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[Barron]

STATUS: Kenny Allen's back. Punter is up in the air. Return units should be Peppers Peppers Peppers, but they moved him off kickoffs late last year.

THING YOU WANT TO HEAR: Allen is a Zoltan-level boomer as a punter. This is highly possible; as I've mentioned before I've seen more punts from Kenny Allen than anyone else has in the history of backup punters. They tend to go an enormously long way.

THING YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR: Jourdan Lewis is returning kicks. He's good at it, sure, but there are other guys who should be in his league at a not-very-important job. Those guys are not also All-American corners. Give the job to David Long or Ty Isaac or whoever.

On the other hand, Peppers returning punts is totally worth it. He saved so many yards last year just by fair catching a bunch of punts most people would have had to let drop, and he's been a hair's breadth away from busting loose for touchdowns. The gap between Peppers and the next best punt return guy is huge compared to the gap between Michigan's various kick return options.

THING I WILL DISMISS OUT OF HAND: Any Andrew David chatter that doesn't involve him pooch-punting. David was behind two walk-ons a year ago and Michigan took the unusual step of recruiting kickers in consecutive years.

Comments

Kevin13

August 10th, 2016 at 4:18 PM ^

Mone playing over Glasgow. If Mone wasn't hurt last year, people would probably scoff at the thought of Glasgow playing over him. Mone is as atlhetic of a 300+ pound person as I have seen. Every report about the guy is he is back, healthy and even stronger then he was before. Put that together with his athleticisim, such as watching him run routes and catch balls and this guy is going to be a terror in the middle of our defense. Put him and Glasgow inside and no one will run on this defense.

I don't want to see Peppers returning kicks. This guy is going to take more beating moving down in the box this year on defense and could play a little offense. We have enough talent and speed on this team to have someone other then him return kicks, even if someone just drops back and fair catches every punt.

Alumnus93

August 10th, 2016 at 4:44 PM ^

why isn't winovich a lb???? didn't we fight osu, who wanted him at lb? seems like we have a massive need at lb and none at DE...so we oversize him and put him at...DE.... I hope it's because I don't know browns D...Is the WDE a lb in effect? and peppers lb spt a safety???

Roland Deschain

August 10th, 2016 at 4:56 PM ^

These posts are seriously making me way too excited. I wish they hadn't been published for another few weeks so that I could at least pretend to work during the day. At the moment, there is a direct correlation between the trajectory of the submarine and my work productivity. 

I don't have much to add to the previous posts of other people. One thing I will be curious to see though is if we see Perry possibly replace Peppers on the punt returns. Perry seems to have very reliable hands and may mitigate the risk of fielding Peppers for those types of plays. 

Hotroute06

August 10th, 2016 at 5:01 PM ^

I'm not sold on charlton. If Mone truly is back to 100% and stays that way then I would like to see him start and move Wormley back to end. Against our rivals I'd like to see Wormley, Glasgow, Mone and Gary start. Of course I hope Taco proves me wrong and gets 10+ sacks this year.

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

August 10th, 2016 at 5:36 PM ^

2nd platoon of Mone, Hurst, Godin and Marshall/Winovich.  The first 3 start on nearly every other B1G team - but we have 3 of them on our 2nd platoon.

The depth will also let guys rest between series and heal by sitting if necessary.  UM should have a talented, nasty, healthy 6+ man DL rotation in late Oct and Nov. Wormley was very good at SDE, but Gary will be special at the anchor.

With the front 4 dominating a weak slate for the first 5 games, Brown can give underclassmen who are physically ready plenty of action like Bush, Elysee, Long, Hudson and Kinnel.

1VaBlue1

August 10th, 2016 at 6:33 PM ^

Yes ^^^

I hope the incoming freshmen see the field plenty in the first five games, so they are ready for game action when they're needed against the big boys later in the year.  And make no mistake - they'll be needed.  Hopefully no serious injuries, but there will be times when the starters need a rest.  And those times are when the opposing offense will target the replacement.  That man needs to be ready for it...

LKLIII

August 10th, 2016 at 6:59 PM ^

Can somebody please educate me on the desirable attributes of a punt returner vs a kickoff returner? It seems to me that the same player would fit both: #1 sure hands that won't muff the catch, #2 fast/athletic with #3 good field vision. Why bother dividing up the duties? Just fatigue? Are the skill sets really that different?



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