Fall Camp Presser 8-22-16: Tim Drevno Comment Count

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MGoQuestion: Last we heard Ben Bredeson was taking snaps at left tackle. Do you see that as his long-term future, or do you see him sloting in somewhere else along the line?

“Yeah, he’s a really talented football player and can really play a lot of different positions. Put him out there at left tackle. Just like his foot turn, his speed, his initial quickness. Just trying to figure out the best five out there and the best six and seven. He’s really had a nice camp and is doing a really, really good job. Intelligent guy. Really good football awareness. Can fix a problem after you tell him, so it’s exciting to see that.”

Where do you stand with the quarterbacks? Have you narrowed it down?

“It’s been an unbelievable competition. Guys are coming out every day throwing great balls, great drops, great precision, great timing. I mean, we’re way further along than where we’ve been. I mean quarterback-wise last year. We haven’t made the decision and we don’t want to make the decision too early and make the wrong decision. So, we’ll keep going along here and then we’ll gather together and make that decision.”

You had seen the difference between Jake and Shane somewhat early in camp last year you guys had said even though you didn’t make the decision until later. What’s the difference between Wilton and John at this point?
”For me to say that, it’d be like splitting an atom. I mean, it’s like…they’re all doing really good and they all bring something different to the table and they’re all working hard and competing and we keep evaluating the tape and putting more on them and as they digest it we’ll make that decision.”

A couple freshmen Coach Harbaugh mentioned were doing well on the offensive line. Do you have a set starting five?

“No, no. Ben Bredeson’s really been stepping up there good. We’ve been working him at left tackle. He’s doing a really, really nice job. Michael Onwenu’s done a great job. He’s D-line and comes back. I mean, this offensive system that we have here is a lot to learn. He’s done a good job. And Stephen Spanellis, a big strong guy, we moved him in to guard. He’s doing a really good job. We’re really pleased where we are with the young guys than we were last year in terms of the retention. And the older guys in the room have done a great job. I know during the summer by NCAA rules we can’t get together with them but I heard through the grapevine those guys were getting together and watching tape and really sitting down and getting better as an offensive line.”

Did those young guys make it harder for you this year than you were expecting in camp to settle on--

Yeah, it did, which is nice. It’s a pleasure to have that. You come out and see a guy coming out and competing against a senior defensive lineman and blocking him you’re going, ‘Hey, that’s pretty good.’ I mean, that’s a big, strong guy across from him that he’s blocking, so that’s exciting.”

You’ve said in the past that you don’t really care if a freshman starts, you’ve done it before. Would you be comfortable with Ben starting at left tackle?

“I would. I would. And nothing’s been set this time but we’ll just keep competing there at that spot and see how it all works out. But he has all the skill set, the mental capacity, the physicality, all the characteristics you look for to be a starter. He’s a special young player and he’s got a chance to have a really, really good future.”

Has anybody nailed down a spot? Not five, but is there two? Three?

“It’s day-to-day, but if we played a game Magnuson would be at right tackle, Kyle Kalis at right guard, Mason at the center spot, Ben Braden at left guard, and then it’s Grant Newsome and Ben Bredeson battling it out at the left tackle. But things could change from there. If we played a game tomorrow, that’d be it.”

[After THE JUMP: a little bit about every offensive position group, plus what M looks for in an offensive lineman]

At the left tackle, are you evaluating more how they work with the other guys or just--

“No, just individually. You know, both of them are very sharp. Very, very sharp and understand the game and just technique. You know, playing the offensive line is a technique-oriented position and technique is always going to win for you. The better the player the better the technique. The margin of error is very, very small.”

How’s Mason Cole done in his new position?

“Really good. Really, really good. Got unbelievable football awareness, great initial quickness, plays with strong hands [which you] look for in a center. Really the brains of the operation. I’ve mentioned this before but he’s sitting in the meeting room, sometimes before it even comes out of my mouth he fixes the problem. So, it’s really—it’s a pleasure to have him. It really is a pleasure, just as it is with the rest of those guys.”

Is De’Veon still the presumed starter?

“De’Veon’s doing good. He’s doing a great job. Chris Evans is outstanding. It’s just—they’re all doing a really, really good job out there.”

What does Chris bring that’s maybe different than--

“He’s got really good instincts in terms of seeing a hole, being able to make a cut, feeling the feel, really letting the play express itself and then taking the lane, taking the running lane. But they’ve all done—Drake Johnson’s done a nice job. Ty Isaac’s done a nice job. They’re all competing in there.”

How far along is your unit from where you probably expected them to be at this point in camp?

“They’re right on task. I really believe that every day they’ve come out and they work so, so hard. We’re way further along than we were last year, but there’s a lot of things we’ve got to get better at. We’ve got to eliminate the dropped balls. We’ve got to eliminate the offisdes. We’ve got to play cleaner football. That’s so, so important going into the first game of the year where a lot of messy football could happen. We want to make sure we’re on point and make sure we eliminate the things that could be drive stoppers for us.”

Where do you look to see the greatest improvement in your mind?
”I just think everybody’s understanding and putting more concepts on them and they’re doing that. We threw a lot at them in the first three days of camp when we started and now there’s a retention that’s really good, so we’ve really improved really well in that area.”

Is there depth beyond those veteran four? Other than those guys and Grant--

Yeah, absolutely there’s depth. Michael Onwenu’s doing a good job and Dave Dawson. They’re all—Nolan Ulizio. They all bring something to the table. They’re all better football players than they were last year.”

In terms of the outside receivers, obviously we know about Amara and Jehu. Jehu’s going full, right?

“Yep, going full.”

Behind them, is it freshmen or--

“Eddie McDoom: unbelievable. Really can stretch the field. Very quick. Kekoa Crawford: very good. Nate Johnson. They’ve all brought something to the table. We recruited them because we knew something about them and they’ve all done a really, really nice job. The [inaudible] off the football for routes, the route precision. Just all those things. And their talent and their skill set. There’s some suddenness out there, which is really nice to see.”

Are they only on the outside? Who’s in the slot?

“We’re working them at every different spot. We’ve kind of put them in there to see where they fit.”

[Ed. A-I edited out duplicate questions throughout]

Is Bredeson a guy similar to like Cole was or Graham [Glasgow] where he could play three, four different positions?

“Yeah. Ben Bredeson is a very good football player. And not to take away from Grant Newsome; he’s a very good football player. But he’s a guy who could play a couple different spots. You look for the balance. You look for the cleats in the ground. You look for initial quickness. You look for quick twitch as you punch and be able to feel something and naturally come off something. You know, it’s a God-given ability that a young man has and he has that.”

If you had to sum up the offense in one statement about what people will see and what excites you about this team from an offensive standpoint, what would it be?

“I just love their work ethic. I love how they come out every day and want to be the best at what they do, and it’s important to them. It’s important [to them] that they be good and that they be good teammates to one another. And they want to win. They want to win, most importantly, the down that’s ahead of them. Then next down, they want to win.”

You said you don’t want to make a decision too early on quarterback. Is there a too late on making a decision on quarterback?

No. You have to make a decision at some point in time before the first game.”

Why hasn’t Grant solidified [his LT spot]?

“I just think it’s been an unbelievable battle. Like we said, we recruited these guys and as we get more talent in this program it’s a competitiveness. Guys are really competing. It’s not just the offensive line, it’s the quarterbacks, receivers, running backs, the defense. Everybody’s competing and wanting to be the best, so it’s a fight every day.”

What are you seeing from the fullbacks?

“Fullbacks are doing good. Khalid’s [Hill] doing a nice job. Got really good initial quickness. Henry Poggi’s doing a nice job. They’re all—Hendo’s in there [Bobby Henderson]. They’re all bringing something to the table and really helping us to develop this offense.”

Are they up there where Sione was or getting there?

“Khalid has got really good initial quickness and really good snap and you see it. He’s got those first two quick steps that you look for in a fullback. Doesn’t matter if he’s going to block somebody or doesn’t matter if he’s releasing to the flat or running a route. And they’re all doing good things. Absolutely.”

Is Jabrill with you guys at all?

“Not at this time he’s not, but I’m trying to get him over more. Can you talk to Coach Harbaugh for me?”

Do you guys have something for him?

“We always got something because, I mean, Jabrill’s an unbelievable football player that can do a lot of different things. You love to have more offense. But as we get closer here and as we start to work forward to the first opener, we’ll start to put some things together.”

How about Jourdan?

“No, we have not seen him. We’d love to see him. We’d love to see him offensively and that’s in effect. We’ve just been working through some things right now and we’ll get to that.”

How about Drake Harris and Moe Ways, the guys that have been here for a while?

“Really good. They’ve all done a good job, and that brings a lot of depth there. Drake’s had a nice camp and Moe Ways has had a nice camp. I’m kind of going back to some catches and different things we’ve done and they’ve done a good job.”

Talk about the defense. How much does it help that your defense is so good and you go against them in camp every day?

“Very good. Very good. It makes you very good. It makes you every day you gotta come out you gotta compete. And the different looks they give you and stuff—there’s a lot of different moving parts so you’d better know your assignments.”

Is Onwenu—he’s 350 or maybe more. Are his feet that quick for a guy that big?

“Very good. He’s got very good, strong hands. Very good lower body girth. One thing you look for in an offensive lineman is you don’t want to be able to get knocked back. If you got good lower body girth you can hold the ground, and then you come off and you block somebody. Sometimes you might move him two inches but when you drop back down, to be able to take another bite off somebody? He can do that.”

Do you want him to lose weight?

“You know what, my thing with him is when you’re big like that if you can move and you’re big, so be it. I’ve coached some guys sometimes at former employers that were 380 pounds, and if they—you’re not going to be a 320-pound guy. Let’s be realistic about it. That’s a big-boned person.”

Are you good enough to compete for a title with either of these quarterbacks?

“Absolutely. Absolutely, yes.”

Is there any chance you play two quarterbacks?

“Right at this time, no. Things could change, but that’s not what we’ve done, Jim and I, in the past. But if there’s a situation for a gameplan deal where we need to put in somebody else to change it up and create another package we’ll do that.”

Have those quarterbacks done a good job protecting the ball?

“Absolutely, yes. Yep.”

Is Don Brown bringing everything?

“Bringing the house, baby. He is bringing the house and I’m loving every bit of it because that’s how you coach. Coaching is about adjustments. It’s about matchups. It’s about teaching the room. You can sit there and teach a four-down cover 2 and the cover 2’s adjustment outside with the routes and the protections, but when people move you’ve got to be able to block move, be able to protect, and you’ve got to be able to see all that stuff. That makes us a better football team.”

Real quick on the tight ends?

“Tight ends are doing good. We’ve got a stable of tight ends. Jake Butt is Jake Butt. He’s done an outstanding job. Ian’s doing a really nice job. Devin Asiasi: wow. Explosive, just like you saw on the high school tape. Very good in-line blocking tight end.”

And Ty [Wheatley Jr.]?

“Ty’s doing a really nice job. He’s a really good in-line blocking tight end and he’s done a really nice job.”

You guys haven’t been afraid to call Jake Butt the best tight end in the country. Why is that?

“Because he’s like the mailman: he delivers.”

Comments

Steves_Wolverines

August 23rd, 2016 at 4:26 PM ^

Is Don Brown bringing everything?

“Bringing the house, baby. He is bringing the house and I’m loving every bit of it because that’s how you coach.

 

How can we, as fans, not get excited after hearing these kinds of things from the coaches?!?!?!?!

 

When does the season start?!?!?!?!?

Pkf97

August 23rd, 2016 at 4:29 PM ^

Interesting that Chris Evans is the first name mentioned after De'Veon.  Then Drake Johnson and Ty Isaac, nothing about Kareem Walker or Kingston Davis.  I'll read that as the buzz about Chris Evans is very real and that he's got a great chance to see the field early.

stephenrjking

August 23rd, 2016 at 4:50 PM ^

Guys like Bredeson are getting mentioned a lot because they're being asked about. 

Evans tumbled off of his lips unprompted in an answer to a question about Deveon Smith, known quality starter.

That's... this is as notable as you can get with camp chatter. People can't stop talking about him. And we're not talking about some bottom-rung B1G team that never sees athleticism. This is a team that has Jabrill Peppers and Jourdain Lewis and Rashan Gary on the field and nobody can stop talking about Chris Evans.

Dude gonna be lit.

Mgodiscgolfer

August 25th, 2016 at 9:07 AM ^

The RB's have been progressivly getting better (since Wheatley started coaching) but they had been running into more asses than a porn star. I am so tired of watching opposing RB's running through seams that are invisible on the TV. Then watching our RB run into the guards ass when he could have chose either side of a giant scrum that resembles a huddle more than a hole. Thats how you turn a 100 yard game into a 50 yard game.

If Evans is using good footing and vision and getting to the hole without loosing alot of his speed and thats what I thought coach Drevno was saying. He will be getting his fair share of touches. There is one thing that could keep the other RB's in the line-up as much as last year. That would be coach Drevno not saying a word about Chris Evans blocking skills.

Henry Arulingverder

August 24th, 2016 at 1:39 AM ^

Brushed right past Smith and fawned over Evans with an "outstanding" - that's pretty telling.

Sidenote: it's weird that Drevno refers to his previous teams as former employers. Makes it feel like it's just a job. Which I guess it is, but meh...nvm. 

corundum

August 23rd, 2016 at 4:32 PM ^

He was quick to bring up Evans along with Smith when talking about starters. I'm thinking Evans will be the third down back in obvious passing situations.

stephenrjking

August 23rd, 2016 at 6:23 PM ^

Third down backs exist because third down scenarios depend upon a variety of skills that aren't necessarily included in other situations. Running is good, but so is pass receiving, and blocking is absolutely vital.

It so happens that Smith is very good at all of these things. He is a reliable backfield receiver, and his ability to fight for extra yards after catching the ball has on several occasions been the difference between a punt and a first down. And he is a fantastic pass blocker. 

So he is a perfect Harbaugh third-down back. The ability to be elusive on flare routes, screens, and checkdowns is not by any means the only or even the primary criteria for a third-down back. It's nice, but unless Evans proves he can stand up a 275-lb defensive end the way Smith has, he will not be the regular guy back there in distance situations.

I think he might actually feature in a lot of other places first.

dragonchild

August 23rd, 2016 at 9:29 PM ^

Third-down backs are often not guys with high upside so much as high floor.  You don't need to have "flashes" of elite blocking ability, ankle-breaking routes or playmaking quickness.  But you damn well better be able to consistently pick up the dangerman, catch the damng ball when it's thrown and make the right decision when the blocking goes awry.  A third-down back doesn't move the chains with raw talent but with extremely steady play.

IIRC before RB became a complete commodity position, a fair number of marginal talents made decent NFL careers out of the third-down back by just practicing the hell out of everything until they earned coaches' trust because the superstar's pass blocking or hands or whatever couldn't be trusted on 3rd and medium.  Smith definitely has that trust; that he's actually dang good at those things is a bonus.

Mr. Yost

August 23rd, 2016 at 7:37 PM ^

Because you're not going to ask him to block someone when you have other options.

This is why I don't see why people won't believe in the hybrid type position.

He can play WITH DE'VEON.

He would be on the field in place of a FB...not the RB.

You line him up with Smith and then you see have the run/pass threat. Because Evans can run and Smith can block or misdirection OR Evans and get out in space and Smith can pass block.

 

When OSU had Jalin Marshall or Braxton Miller on the field....did they take out Zeke Elliott? No. That is Evans' position. He can play WITH the RB and he'll be used to get out in space and make things happen. Very similar to how we used Peppers on offense last year.

Spirit of 69

August 24th, 2016 at 12:20 AM ^

Yeah, the mention of Evans in conversation with the first string guys and how he's been outstanding tells me we could be seeing a healthy dosage of the spread again, and I know that's been talked about before. If it gets the running game to a better place than it was last year, I'm all for it.

stephenrjking

August 23rd, 2016 at 4:53 PM ^

Bredeson is getting a lot of talk, but he's getting a lot of questions. I would read more into one offhand unprompted comment about Chris Evans than a bunch of answers to questions focusing on Bredeson by name. Though obviously Bredeson is pushing for the job. 

I would be interested in Drevno's response to a direct question about whether or not Evans is pushing for Smith's starting role. Someone just posted that Evans might get the third down back position. Well, for one, Smith is a good receiver and an excellent blocker, so I don't think he's vulnerable there; for two, it sounds like Evans is going to be on the field a lot more than that. Maybe Smith is going to be the third down guy?

Also, after his hot spring, Wheatley isn't getting a lot of mention. We'll see if that means anything.

AA Forever

August 23rd, 2016 at 5:40 PM ^

right up until the last minute.  I wouldn't be surprised if any depth chart that comes out the week before the game still says Wilton Speight or John O'Korn, and the actual starter does not get named until game day.

Mr. Yost

August 23rd, 2016 at 7:45 PM ^

A little later in camp...at some point you have to at least go from 3 to 2...I think they just wanted to give Shane an honest shot and acknowledge the improvement his made.

To be honest, I was wrong...I thought he'd graduate in the summer and be gone by fall camp ala Jake Rudock and Vernon Adams. Try to win a starting job in someone else's fall camp. We kind of knew he was #3 here.

He can still graduate and play his RS senior somewhere else if he wanted to...but hats of to him for never complaining about it or causing a scene. He has to be disappointed, but from everything I can tell he's grown up like most college students grow in college and he's always been 100% committed to the program. I'll never knock a kid like that. I hope he gets his degree at M and is successful for another year on the team or if he chooses to move on, I hope he effing kills it elsewhere.

uncleFred

August 24th, 2016 at 1:03 PM ^

He did not say "they're both" when responding to the question specifically limited to John and Wilton, and he referred to the the QB competition in a fashion that included all the QBs twice in that answer. While it is generally believed that no one other than Wilton or John is actually competing for the starting role, Drevno has said nothing to confirm that belief.

You, and the general belief, may well be correct, but at this point no one outside the submarine really knows how those guys match up. 

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Ronnie Kaye

August 23rd, 2016 at 6:26 PM ^

Sports reporting is so brainless. "Can you talk about the ... (runs through the gamut of position units)?" That's 90% of the questions we see posed to coaches.

Ronnie Kaye

August 23rd, 2016 at 6:26 PM ^

Sports reporting is so brainless. "Can you talk about the ... (runs through the gamut of position units)?" That's 90% of the questions we see posed to coaches.

Mr. Yost

August 23rd, 2016 at 7:24 PM ^

This makes me want to smack the person arguing with me last week about Bredeson playing LT.

Just because one player mentioned JBB, he swore up and down Bredeson should be listed as a guard.

Sure that may be his natural position, but if he's going to play...clearly it's LT and Drevno all but confirms this in this presser. He's pushing Newsome for a starting spot fergodsakes.

Cranky Dave

August 23rd, 2016 at 7:35 PM ^

Chris Evans hype seems warranted based on Drevno's comment. Since Dnard left we haven't had serious athleticism in the backfield (Peppers limited snaps aside). Excited to see that.

Mr. Yost

August 23rd, 2016 at 7:42 PM ^

But I think Khalid Hill may be the starter at FB if you made me guess based on this presser...

Also, we named every WR except Grant Perry. That said Harbaugh called him a starter at the slot not too long ago. Hurray for the freshman being good and not that recent batch we had a few years ago...none of which panned out to even backup PT except Mo Ways.